View Full Version : Anyone know a place that has Nitrogen?
Want2race 02-08-2005, 10:24 PM I need to find a place that can inflate to 80psi.. My Yukon needs that for the rears and discount tire said there machine only goes to 50psi..
Anyone able to point me in a direction ?
Thanks
~Jon
Doctor Wha 02-08-2005, 10:40 PM Try calling Tire Force in Alpharetta. I think I recall seeing a nitrogen ad display last time I was there. :ponder
1525 Mansell Rd.
Alpharetta GA 30004
770-643-1512
Want2race 02-08-2005, 10:42 PM Try calling Tire Force in Alpharetta. I think I recall seeing a nitrogen ad display last time I was there. :ponder
1525 Mansell Rd.
Alpharetta GA 30004
770-643-1512
thanks.. ill call em in the mornin
VANCE 02-08-2005, 10:54 PM try geordie at butler tire in doraville
they do it. i dont know how high they can go though!
If you are a costco member you get free nitrogen fills on any of your vehicles. If you don't have a membership its cheaper to join for $35 a yr vs paying $36-40 from a shop for only ONE car.
BimmerDawg 02-08-2005, 11:24 PM 80 psi? Are you serious?
punknamedjimmy 02-08-2005, 11:26 PM 80 psi? Are you serious?
well, i mean his v12 m coupe is pretty damn serious.
Experimental M3 02-09-2005, 03:51 AM Give Georgia Tire Depot on Johnson's Ferry a call. Speak to Dennis or Rodney. 770-973-7171 They know their stuff.
I know they do nitrogen fills, but I'm not sure how high of a PSI they can go.
Want2race 02-09-2005, 08:53 AM 80 psi? Are you serious?
Yes sir.. It runs light truck tires.. Can your local do it ?
BimmerDawg 02-09-2005, 09:05 AM Yes sir.. It runs light truck tires.. Can your local do it ?
Not sure. I'll check.
Want2race 02-09-2005, 04:15 PM Not sure. I'll check.
any word on if Butler has it ? Im not sure if its your off day or if you have a connection @ work
Cwaters 02-09-2005, 04:34 PM I'm sorry, I musta missed something. WHY?
BimmerDawg 02-09-2005, 05:00 PM any word on if Butler has it ? Im not sure if its your off day or if you have a connection @ work
I went in at 1:00.
Ours won't do 80, sorry.
bcart1991 02-09-2005, 05:02 PM Why does an SUV need nitrogen? Wouldn't "air" at 80 psi be sufficient?
Want2race 02-09-2005, 05:13 PM I went in at 1:00.
Ours won't do 80, sorry.
Thanks. I honestly and truely appreciate you checkin!
Want2race 02-09-2005, 05:14 PM Why does an SUV need nitrogen? Wouldn't "air" at 80 psi be sufficient?
I could use air ( I am currently) but since its not a daily driver and since I dont want to have to deal with checking the pressure and since there is more air in the tire to expand and heat up.. Nitrogen is just a better choice..
Normal air would be fine but I am not a person who is very good about religiously checking tire pressures.
BimmerDawg 02-09-2005, 05:17 PM I'm confused as to why you need 80 psi. We never inflate any passenger tires beyond 40 psi here.
nate09565 02-09-2005, 05:28 PM Premier Auto Repair
678-795-0331
its in the Roswell Square area, righjt before Holcomb Bridge.
Ask for Steve tell him Nate sent you
$10.00 for all for on a normal car, not sure about a SUV, probably like $25.00?
Want2race 02-09-2005, 05:29 PM I'm confused as to why you need 80 psi. We never inflate any passenger tires beyond 40 psi here.
Its what the car wants..
http://www.want2race.net/yukon/PICT1037.JPG
I also thought it was crazy!
Want2race 02-09-2005, 05:30 PM Premier Auto Repair
678-795-0331
its in the Roswell Square area, righjt before Holcomb Bridge.
Ask for Steve tell him Nate sent you
$10.00 for all for on a normal car, not sure about a SUV, probably like $25.00?
cant do it.. I asked..but thanks for the idea! Steves a great guy!
ecpreston 02-09-2005, 06:11 PM bunch of bimmerheads livin' in their own little world! Lots of truck tires want 60+, nothing special :stickoutt
Chris Huff 02-09-2005, 07:43 PM The 80psi is to allow the tire to carry the load of that beast.
If you only ran 50, your would overload the tire and risk a blow out.
Good luck finding 80psi. The cost of the machines goes up quite alot when you get over 50psi.
Want2race 02-09-2005, 09:51 PM The 80psi is to allow the tire to carry the load of that beast.
If you only ran 50, your would overload the tire and risk a blow out.
Good luck finding 80psi. The cost of the machines goes up quite alot when you get over 50psi.
Ye.. I think im just gonna go with nitrogen to whatever the max is and then after that run air.. or hell maybe just air.
VANCE 02-09-2005, 10:29 PM seems like a PITA.
i think id just go for air
ecpreston 02-10-2005, 12:04 AM I guess I AM a little curious why 80psi is any problem. With a ~4500+ psi nitrogen tank, and a 0-3000 psi regulator on top of it (totally standard welding supply stuff here), I'm pretty sure I could fill any tire to any psi you could want. Blow that f*cker up! At least, that's how it's done at the track. There's no "machine". Tank, regulator, line, gauge. Geordie? You guys got some crazy $$ machine for this? :stickoutt
ettsn 02-10-2005, 12:29 AM Ye.. I think im just gonna go with nitrogen to whatever the max is and then after that run air.. or hell maybe just air.
Why bother? You do realize that "air" is mostly nitrogen in the first place. If you aren't running pure nitrogen or at the very least, vastly enrichened why bother?
Does your SUV have a V12 in it?
-Paul
b'hambimmer 02-10-2005, 12:39 AM Can y'all explain why you want to use nitrogen? (Sounds like the old hot rodder joke about puttin' helium in the tires to make the car lighter)
Want2race 02-10-2005, 09:20 AM Does your SUV have a V12 in it?
-Paul
Compensating for Porsche sized penis??
Everyone else seems to have gotten over it...
Want2race 02-10-2005, 09:25 AM Can y'all explain why you want to use nitrogen? (Sounds like the old hot rodder joke about puttin' helium in the tires to make the car lighter)
how stuff works says :
Many race car teams use nitrogen instead of air in their tires because nitrogen has a much more consistent rate of expansion and contraction compared to the usual air. Often, a half pound of pressure will radically affect traction and handling. With track and tire temperatures varying over the duration of a race, the consistency of nitrogen is needed.
Nitrogen pressure is more consistent than normal air pressure because air typically contains varying amounts of water vapor due to changes in the relative humidity on race day. Water causes the usual air to be inconsistent in its rate of expansion and contraction. So, a humid race in the southeast United States or a dry race in the desert western United States could make for unpredictable tire pressures if "dry" nitrogen were not used.
Nitrogen is also used in the high-pressure tires on large and small aircraft.
bcart1991 02-10-2005, 09:58 AM http://www.mistupid.com/chemistry/aircomp.htm :eek:
Component------------Symbol--------Volume
Nitrogen______________N2_________78.084%
Oxygen_______________O2_________20.947%
Argon________________Ar__________0.934%
Carbon Dioxide________CO2_________0.033%
-------------------------------------------
Total___________________________99.998%
Neon_________________Ne_______18.2 parts per million
Helium________________He________5.2 parts per million
Everything else is less than 1 part per million.
You may believe otherwise, but you won't notice the difference in the Tahoe by using air vs. nitrogen. That is, unless it has race suspension and slick tires. ;)
Carter
Ron17 02-10-2005, 12:03 PM Argon, take me away!!
punknamedjimmy 02-10-2005, 12:07 PM Compensating for Porsche sized penis??
Everyone else seems to have gotten over it...
are you sure? the fact that you blatenly lied about putting a v12 in an mcoupe and threatened another persons job, is enough for me to not give a shit if you got cerebellum'd tommorow.
BimmerDawg 02-10-2005, 12:08 PM From our handout on nitrogen:
WHY DOES BUTLER TIRE RECOMMEND INFLATING YOUR TIRES WITH NITROGEN INSTEAD OF CONVENTIONAL AIR??
WHY INFLATE WITH NITROGEN?
• Oxygen is your tire's worst enemy. Air is about 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, and 1% other. Nitrogen is inert, non-combustible, and non-corrosive. Oxygen on the other hand is a destructive element. When tires are exposed to air, a long term and continuing deterioration begins - the oxidation of the rubber in the tire. What happens to a rubber band over time? It loses its elasticity and strength. This same process occurs in tires inflated with air as the oxygen attacks the rubber molecules, working from the inside out until the oxygen permeates the tire structure and ultimately the tread.
IS ALL NITROGEN GAS EQUAL?
• No, nitrogen is available from nitrogen generators in different purities, generally ranging from 95% (low purity) to 99.9% (high purity). We use a verifiable 99% pure nitrogen.
AT WHAT AIR PRESSURE SHOULD I SET MY TIRES TO USING NITROGEN?
• You should use the same air pressure as your vehicle manufacturer recommends when filling the tires with air. Always check your tires when cold for a more accurate reading!
WHAT PURITY OF NITROGEN SHOULD I USE?
• All of our aging and longevity tests were with 98% or better. We strongly recommend that 98% or better be used to inflate your tires. Using low purity, such as 95%, will negate the benefits of nitrogen inflation and is no better than inflating with air.
WHAT ARE THE OTHER BENEFITS OF NITROGEN INFLATION?
• Tires last longer. On the road tests show that tires inflated with nitrogen lasted 25-30% longer and that road failures were reduced by 50%.
• Tires hold their pressure longer
• Nitrogen diffuses through the walls of the tire 25-30% slower than air, significantly reducing tire pressure loss between inflation checks. With nitrogen tire fill, you should only need to check your air pressure once every four to six months!!
• Underinflated tires wear faster than correctly inflated tires. A tire that is 10% underinflated will lose approximately 7% of its service life.
• Fewer tire failures
• Oxidation and heat affect the strength of tires. The oxidation process weakens tires; the heat generated from rolling accelerates this process. This oxidation is referred to as "fatigue" and "aging". Nitrogen filled tires had twice the life to failure in both field and laboratory tests.
• Better fuel mileage and handling
• Tires that are properly inflated roll better than under inflated tires and get better fuel mileage. Tires that are properly inflated also respond better to steering input and handle better.
• CHROME WHEELS RESIST RUSTING AS THERE IS NO MOISTURE IN NITROGEN TO CAUSE RUST AND CORROSION
WHAT SHOULD I DO IF I HAVE A FLAT OR NEED AIR, AND NITROGEN IS NOT AVAILABLE?
• You can fill your tire with air temporarily, and on your next visit to Butler Tire, we will refill your tires for you at no extra charge. Once you have paid for nitrogen in a set of tires, we will continue to fill them free of charge for the life of that set of tires.
BimmerDawg 02-10-2005, 12:09 PM are you sure? the fact that you blatenly lied about putting a v12 in an mcoupe and threatened another persons job, is enough for me to not give a shit if you got cerrebellum'd tommorow.
:rofl
I'm not over it.
Ron17 02-10-2005, 12:15 PM http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzc4ODMyNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
BimmerDawg 02-10-2005, 12:16 PM :lol
I just pissed myself.
techno550 02-10-2005, 12:30 PM I guess I AM a little curious why 80psi is any problem. With a ~4500+ psi nitrogen tank, and a 0-3000 psi regulator on top of it (totally standard welding supply stuff here), I'm pretty sure I could fill any tire to any psi you could want. Blow that f*cker up! At least, that's how it's done at the track. There's no "machine". Tank, regulator, line, gauge. Geordie? You guys got some crazy $$ machine for this? :stickoutt
Tire shops got set on using some sort of nitrogen generator dealies. (yeah, thats the technical term. ;) ) They don't use nitrogen tanks and regulators. I'd be happy to fill whatever, but I don't have my regulators anymore. They are off racing while I'm not. Still have a couple bottles though.
Tires aren't the only things that use nitrogen. Canister pressure on a damper is usually in the range of 200 to 350 psi. (used to have the tool for that too... and my regulators all went to 400 psi.)
Dammit, now all I can think about is that I want my damn tools back. Although, whats the service life on a nitrogen regulator? Something like 5 years? time for new ones of those anyway. I should probably get another regulator or two... seeing as I still have a few bottles. Anyone know if there is a holox or the likes near Mall of GA? Driving up to the norcross Holox is an option, but a pain depending on traffic and timing and such.
Cwaters 02-11-2005, 09:23 AM I'm thining you just need to go to a welding supply place OR a truck tire place.
ecpreston 02-11-2005, 09:56 AM Tire shops got set on using some sort of nitrogen generator dealies.
well that explains it, they got all fancy on us. :stickoutt
Want2race 02-11-2005, 10:07 AM i got it sorted out.. Premeir Autos machine did up to 6 bar! Thanks Nate
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