So my girl is looking to trade in her Rover on a new 5 Series. Anyone have any pros or cons with these cars?

I figure it's brand new, a BMW, and comes with a 4 year/50,000 mile maintenance free warranty, so I see no cons. But I figure if anyone has any advice, it might be you guys. Please post up any opinions.

Thanks all.

dude, how has the rover been treatin her? heard they are hell on wheels but the devil off road.

dude, how has the rover been treatin her? heard they are hell on wheels but the devil off road.


The rover has been ok. Ive been dating her for a month now but have known her for about 4 so i know most the history on the car. She had to do a complete brake overhaul($1400 worth). The ride was ok, then her ex put 22's on it(i cant complain, i love driving it, lol). The things I dont like are the seats(very uncomfortable), the dash(looks like it should be in my Civic), and the controls of the car(to unlock the doors the button is on the pass. side below the radio). But it's very spacious, rides decent for being on 22's, and it gets you some looks. But its guzzling gas and its humungous. So, we...I mean she....is wanting something a little smaller. She was going for a C or E class, until I showed her a 5 series. Then it was over.

As far as the off road capabilities I'm not really sure. By the feel of the suspension and the lack of tilt when taking corners pretty quick, I can only imagine it's a decent off road vehicle.

Not too many con's on an 05'
I remember someone saying theywere experiencing a lot of wind noise.
The styling has been beat to death, so whatever. I think they look nice modded, but so does just about everything. I'd make sure to get at least a 530 or 545 w/ sport package. A manual would be nice but I'd understand if you got a slushbox.
I'm not impressed w/ Rovers either. The interiors are shit. Questionable reliability issues. I'd get a Toureg in a minute though. They are VERY nice.
Good luck w/ the bimmer, and post up some pics when you get it. :D

A manual would be nice but I'd understand if you got a slushbox.
Why get a slushbox when you can get SMG?

Ok, while I would love to get a 545 with SMG or a manual, this car is for my 24yo girlfriend. Shes buying it because the ride is better than her rover, it doesnt eat gas like crazy, and it has enough room in the back for her kid.

And the styling, I think it is kinda beat to death. Odd thing is, i dont like the 7 series, but I love the 5 series. No idea why.

Also, anyone know what size wheels you can fit on a 5 series and not sacrifice much of the ride quality? The 22's on the Rover make it feel like your riding on a concrete wheel.

Thanks for all the opinions, keep them coming.

i would say stay away from the new 5's.
they are fugly

i would say stay away from the new 5's.
they are fugly


Same thing could be said for that box that you drive, but im not opening my mouth now, am I?

If you have anything useful to contribute, I'd appreciate it. If not, please move on to the next thread.

[QUOTE=Hatchd]Ok, while I would love to get a 545 with SMG or a manual, this car is for my 24yo girlfriend. Shes buying it because the ride is better than her rover, it doesnt eat gas like crazy, and it has enough room in the back for her kid.
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Then just get a nice 530, sport package,premium,auto. She'll love it. So will you. Great gas mileage, quick and sporty.

Then just get a nice 530, sport package,premium,auto. She'll love it. So will you. Great gas mileage, quick and sporty.

I believe thats what we're test driving on wednesday. Whats the difference in the sport package? I'm gonna guess suspension and bigger rims since theres not much else to mess with.

New engines with more power are due in the 525 and 530 pretty soon, some time in April if I'm not mistaken. If your in the market for a 545, I hear a 550 will be coming sometime in future, but the wait should be pretty long.

The sports package is a must as you do get anti roll stabilization which really keeps body roll to a minimum in the twisties. Active steering was once included in the sports package, but is now available as a separate option. It may feel a bit strange at first, but once you get accustomed to it, I feel it is a great feature.

The sports package comes stock with 18" runflats, but people who have ditched the runflats for 19s actually feel the ride quality is the same if not better. 20s look great on the car, especially with the big tire well, but some have had issues with 20x10s and rubbing in the rear. I saw a pic of a car with 21s and thought it looked great.

check out this site for more info http://forums.e60.net/

i myself didn't like the new 5 design. a lot of people who see it in pics may immediately say they don't like it. but when my father-in-law drove into the driveway with a brand new 545i... Everything changes. it's a sweet car.

It's like the Enzo. Beyond Ugly in pics. but when it's in front of you and you can reach out and touch it. Your whole perspective changes.

Same thing could be said for that box that you drive, but im not opening my mouth now, am I?

If you have anything useful to contribute, I'd appreciate it. If not, please move on to the next thread.


lol dude wtf? are u drunk? this is a forum, so if we didn't open our mouths,
we'd have nothing.


and the usefullness of my comment is questionable i agree, but many
people forget the ugliness. they try to look over it, convincing themselves
that it is not that bad....

tell her to get a nice new audi a6...40 grand for the base 6 cyl very good car
no electronic problems like the i has and u'll get the quattro benefit which she's prolly used to on the ol' truck

Yes they are ugly..but id pay 40K for a 545 6 speed or smg. The engineering under that face-only -a-mother-could-love styling is impressive.

Same thing could be said for that box that you drive, but im not opening my mouth now, am I?

If you have anything useful to contribute, I'd appreciate it. If not, please move on to the next thread.

Woah, hold on there cowboy....

A very large percent of the 5's in this forum look like the box he drives...

You asked for opinions on the new 5's, you got em! Right wrong or indifferent. Just enjoy the differences in all of us, because no one likes the same thing.

I actually don't like the new fives, but I would have sugar coated it a bit more... But for me, it is only there appearance, their permorfance seems to be worth the price. But again, that will be up to you.

My final thought, if my 24 yo girlfriend could afford a 50k car, I wouldn't care what it would look like, I would just be happy to have a 24 yo girlfriend......

did grapefury just call our e34's "boxes"?

f'n ban :D


seriosly.....dont dis the 5 series..they are all cool.

My 24 year old wife can afford one :D

I got me a "suga-momma" :evil2:

My 24 year old wife can afford one :D

I got me a "suga-momma" :evil2:

she gots a bebe too yo! hawdcore!


if you get the 5, just make sure the radiator isn't plastic. if it is, walk... run.. and ask for extended warrenty on the cupholders.

Get the 530i with the premium package and the sport package. I don't know how much you want to spend, but the premium sound package is pretty nice too. If you order nav the i-drive display goes from 6.5 inches to 8.8, but with all of that you're looking at an MSRP of about $57k.

The new sixes will begin production in March of this year, so the cars should be here in May or June--for that reason, you may want to wait. The 525i will have 214hp and the 530i will have 255hp. Both will have Valvetronic, which should aid in your lady's concerns about fuel economy. The new V-8 will not begin production in the 5 until September, which should have it here by November.

The sport package on all cars includes active steering, active roll stabilization (ARS), sport seats, 18s with run-flats (except 525i; 17s), and sport seats. The active steering and ARS make the package worth the price alone IMO.

Hope this helps!

she gots a bebe too yo! hawdcore!


if you get the 5, just make sure the radiator isn't plastic. if it is, walk... run.. and ask for extended warrenty on the cupholders.

We got three! And a dog....and three chickens :confused

The new 5's are sweet in person. If she's not going to get the v8, wait until summer for the new sixes.

umm, maybe yoi should change the thread title.. your GIRL is thinking of getting an 05 5series... and what do you drive? ill take the e34 over your civic hatch anyday.

Same thing could be said for that box that you drive, but im not opening my mouth now, am I?

If you have anything useful to contribute, I'd appreciate it. If not, please move on to the next thread. :confused

I am driving 05 525 right now as a loaner while our X5 is in the shop. As much as I like the styling I am not very comfortable in this car.

Pros:
1. Very sharp steering, even scary at first (compared to 01 540i Sport)
2. Very nice brakes
3. Excellent automatic transmission, shifts like a stick
4. Civic like economy, while Accord V6 like acceleration:)
5. Very quiet ride, I do not feel how fast I am going, much like on the new 7 series.

Cons:
1. Cheap looking interior plastic
2. Very attention consuming iDrive thing
3. No temperature gage of any kind
4. Mind blowing bells that ring on and off if belt is not buckled
5. Brake needs to be pressed to start the engine, mening that Ihave to sit my ass on the stone cold seat in order to start the car in the morning
6. Very tall trunk, obstructing rear and side view a lot

did grapefury just call our e34's "boxes"?

f'n ban :D


seriosly.....dont dis the 5 series..they are all cool.



werd.


cons: ugly, vague steering, ugly, and ugly.

pros: warranty, good seats, available manual transmission.

get her an audi, seriously.

whoever said active steering was a good thing hasn't tried to drive one on the track.... infernal mess....

and i-Drive is the devil.

umm, maybe yoi should change the thread title.. your GIRL is thinking of getting an 05 5series... and what do you drive? ill take the e34 over your civic hatch anyday.

:confused

To each his own, I'd take my hatch over an old 5 series. I'm still in the mood to tinker with my cars. I can do that on a Civic and not blow a years worth of house payments.

I never said anything about the old 5 Series, it's a BMW so I like it no matter what. But, they are boxy. He said something about the new 5's, I said something could be said about his as well. I wasnt looking for styling opinions, i was looking for mechanical pros and cons.

MDreamer and heezyo2o, thanks for the informative posts. Are the new 530's coming out coming with the 255hp i6? Just wanting to make sure. I dont think she wants to wait, but who knows.

And I actually dont have a girl that can afford a $50k car. I have a girl that has parents that can afford a $50K car. You cant make too much money while you are in medical school. Luckily she has parents that really care about her and her well being. And shes not getting an Audi. Apparently they look 'boring' to her, lol. Dont ask me.

Again thanks for all the info people.

To each his own, I'd take my hatch over an old 5 series. I'm still in the mood to tinker with my cars. I can do that on a Civic and not blow a years worth of house payments.

I never said anything about the old 5 Series, it's a BMW so I like it no matter what. But, they are boxy. He said something about the new 5's, I said something could be said about his as well. I wasnt looking for styling opinions, i was looking for mechanical pros and cons.

MDreamer and heezyo2o, thanks for the informative posts. Are the new 530's coming out coming with the 255hp i6? Just wanting to make sure. I dont think she wants to wait, but who knows.

And I actually dont have a girl that can afford a $50k car. I have a girl that has parents that can afford a $50K car. You cant make too much money while you are in medical school. Luckily she has parents that really care about her and her well being. And shes not getting an Audi. Apparently they look 'boring' to her, lol. Dont ask me.

Again thanks for all the info people.


ahhh there we go. You're young ? I'm guessing, under 21.

In your first post you asked for pros and cons. You asked for opinions. For many people the styling of the newer 5 series is a con. That's it, that's all there is to it, it's not like someone said you are ugly.

Next off, calling an older 5 series (which many enthusiasts to believe to be the best overall looking 5 series ever made) is your opinion and that's fine, however, coming from the owner of a civic, sounds like jealousy, it also makes you sound like your 12 yrs old.

323IJunkie, you need to get your eyes checked. seriously. http://iteracom.com/open/disappointed.gif where in my post did i say the e34 look like boxes?

this is my post AGAIN. f'n LOOK THIS TIME http://iteracom.com/open/disappointed.gif

i myself didn't like the new 5 design. a lot of people who see it in pics may immediately say they don't like it. but when my father-in-law drove into the driveway with a brand new 545i... Everything changes. it's a sweet car.

It's like the Enzo. Beyond Ugly in pics. but when it's in front of you and you can reach out and touch it. Your whole perspective changes.

323IJunkie, you need to get your eyes checked. seriously. http://iteracom.com/open/disappointed.gif where in my post did i say the e34 look like boxes?

this is my post AGAIN. f'n LOOK THIS TIME http://iteracom.com/open/disappointed.gif


Hatchd, my man, sorry grapefury

Hatchd....f'n ban HIM :devillook

ahhh there we go. You're young ? I'm guessing, under 21.

In your first post you asked for pros and cons. You asked for opinions. For many people the styling of the newer 5 series is a con. That's it, that's all there is to it, it's not like someone said you are ugly.

Next off, calling an older 5 series (which many enthusiasts to believe to be the best overall looking 5 series ever made) is your opinion and that's fine, however, coming from the owner of a civic, sounds like jealousy, it also makes you sound like your 12 yrs old.


Close, 22 and counting. Because I want a car to play with that makes me young? 50yo guys still tinker with cars.

And you can call it jealousy or whatever, no problem by me. I dont like financing stuff and 3 years ago a hatch was all i could afford. And I dont get the sounding like im 12 line. I'm 12 yet the original poster that offered nothing more than "they're fugly" sounds like a rocket scientist?

And banning because i didnt even say anything about an older 5 series other than an implication? Wow, awesome place. There's a ton of info here, but damn some of you get offended easily.

If the thread gets back on track, awesome. If it doesnt, mods, feel free to lock it.

Ay y'all. The active steering will be a stand alone option for the ZSP cars for the '06 year (as opposed to being included). The price of the sport package will beneficially affect this omission.

Same thing could be said for that box that you drive, but im not opening my mouth now, am I?

If you have anything useful to contribute, I'd appreciate it. If not, please move on to the next thread.
Hey nOOb, bahnstormer was just giving his opinion of the E60. You launched the personal bomb.
Get some more cred before you flame here. You are getting good opinions, lighten up.

Come on guys. what is ugly to you looks darn gooD to someone else. Not because you think the new 5 is ugly does not mean someone else will. I think his girl will love the new 5. I dont think its as bad as what we all make it out to be. Yes the standard does not look good. Same can be said about the standard in any car. The sport E39 looks better that the non sport.

Come on guys. what is ugly to you looks darn gooD to someone else. Not because you think the new 5 is ugly does not mean someone else will. I think his girl will love the new 5. I dont think its as bad as what we all make it out to be. Yes the standard does not look good. Same can be said about the standard in any car. The sport E39 looks better that the non sport.

not that it's sooo bad but i did mistaken it for a GrandAm front the other morning. thought GM freshened up the front a bit.

http://www.hartge.de/assets/images/e60_02.jpg

and...

http://www.cramermotors.com/images/Grandam.jpg

wow, never noticed any resemblance until you posted those two pics, lol. Weird. Either way, that 5 is hot.

And I know im getting good opinions. Thats why I came here.

wow, never noticed any resemblance until you posted those two pics, lol. Weird. Either way, that 5 is hot.

And I know im getting good opinions. Thats why I came here.

Creepy huh?

let me ask you this: what's her #1 feature she's looking for in her next car? then, what's #2?..

5 is great but i think there might be some other choices we can suggest if we know what she's looking for.

Well, she was looking at an E series and C series Benz because her dad can get pretty good deals on Benz's(he is the family doctor for a guy that owns a dealership and has bought 8 cars in the last 5 years from him). So, she just kinda got in the Benz mode. I showed her the 5 series and she fell in love. Typical girl response "Oh its nice". I dont think she has any rhyme or reason to like or dislike something. She just has her mind set on it. But if I had to choose it would be:

1. Over all just likes the car
2. space for her son
3. gas mileage
4. Ride comfort

I would guess those are her top 4, with #1 being a for sure, and the other 3 im not sure of. Hell, a Honda Accord would probably be better for her, but she's not a honda accord type chick.

If it looked like a Benz or some other high end car, would it be the same? I am sure we can find a car that look just like the lovely E39. Anyways to each their own.

...Typical girl response "Oh its nice". I dont think she has any rhyme or reason to like or dislike something. She just has her mind set on it. ..... Hell, a Honda Accord would probably be better for her, but she's not a honda accord type chick.

I won't coment on the styling, since "she has her mind set" on an E60 already. But I would suggest a 530 auto with a sports package for her. It handles great and has plenty of power, anything bigger, like a 545, will not have great gas mileage.
BTW, how does a punk like you get a 24 year old girlfriend, who is a med student, has ritzy parents and a child? :confused

I would say look at the 545i over the 530i. I have a feeling that the depreciation will be steeper on the 530i.

I can also say that a buddy of mine has a 545i, and his comment was that he "made the mistake of test driving the 545i first".

I vote for Orient Blue with the Auburn interior and sport package, btw.

I dont understand the fuss about the 5er styling, but oh well......
I find the new 7 to be butt from the rear and I find the new 6 pretty bland, but the E60 in a dark color (or maybe silver) rolling down the road looks very nice to me...
BMW seems to be addressing complaints real quick these days, what with the talk of a manual for the new M5 and active steering becoming only an option. One first for the new fivers is rack and pinion across the board. It's about time they figured that out (f'in luxo-barge worm and roller boxes).
Crash protection is supposed to be good and MPG/performance is nice.
I have heard that they are very capable on the road, but I would probably try to get one without the active steering if for no other reason than the added complexity. They have less driver invlovement than the previous car, but that is tradition (E60 less than E39 less than E34 less than E28).
I will agree that it is freakish the similarity with the grand am from the front, not sure why BMW allowed such a snafu...

BTW, how does a punk like you get a 24 year old girlfriend, who is a med student, has ritzy parents and a child? :confused

How does someone as retarded as yourself have a job that allows you to afford a BMW? I really have no problem with anything anyone has said, but give me a reason for this? I asked about a fuckin 5 series, not your opinion of me jackass.

And how did I get this girl? Gee, I dunno. Being a gentleman, treating her well, paying more attention to her kid than his dad does, being nice to her parents, and how about having my head on straight enough to get a BS in marketing in 6 months, coming out of school debt free, and owning my own house? Good enough yet? New flash. A car is not everything. I drive a damn civic and own a house. Guess my priorities are fucked. I think i might sell my house next week, buy a trailer, and get a BMW. Good fuckin idea.

And to the guys that actually replied about the car, thanks again. I tried to get her on the 545 but that doesnt help much with gas. Those $50 fill ups in the rover every 2 days are a killer. Thanks again for all the serious opinions.

And I actually dont have a girl that can afford a $50k car. I have a girl that has parents that can afford a $50K car. You cant make too much money while you are in medical school. Luckily she has parents that really care about her and her well being. And shes not getting an Audi. Apparently they look 'boring' to her, lol. Dont ask me.

Again thanks for all the info people.

I can't beleive you said that, my mouth fell to the floor.

Being that I have a 22 yr old graduating from college in 4 months, and I am buying her a car for graduation and it won't be a new bmw, and I care about her. In fact, it will be probably be about 12k, but still I REALLY CARE ABOUT HER and love her!!!

If you think that people care about you more because they spend more money on you, than you should have a fun life in front you.

I love this board because of the intelligence of many, but you starting to make the balance go the other way.

Please do me a favor, don't post here until you have a 5, whether you are you gf's parents buy it, don't come back until you have one.

Mods, this one should be locked, before this punk drives us all mad.

I dont think you understood fully what I was saying. Whether you spend $500 on your kids car or $50k it doesnt show how much you care about them. Being old enough to have a 22yo kid I would hope you could read things and not take them out of context like that.


And mods, please lock this. Thanks for all the info from anyone that gave it.

umm, maybe yoi should change the thread title.. your GIRL is thinking of getting an 05 5series... and what do you drive? ill take the e34 over your civic hatch anyday.

:confused
:rofl

I just really dislike the rear of the 6series. it doesn't look bmw to me.

In fact, it looks.. chrysler-esque.. it bears a scary resemblance to chrysler's sebring rear-end..
I've seen it in front of me, looked around, and it was still.. not my taste.

In my HUMBLE opinion, the E39 is best. It still retains a somewhat classic bmw look (compared to the E60). And anything older than E39 is just like 'oh. that's a older bmw.' Pre-E39 was 1996, which was 8-9 years ago..


Now, before the flames start :D I'd like to say there's nothing wrong with being older. Some people are attached to certain designs and I respect that. But there's no denying the truth: An older bmw is an older bmw. :smiliecap

The E60 is a bad ass car, handles great, drives great, looks like shit.

But that is my opinion and you know the saying...

When I got my E39, I drove a E60 530i, I loved the way it drove but I could not get over the way it looked. I found my E39, its CPO and warranty will last 6 years or 70K miles. it was also 10K less, so to me a better deal and a car I adore. Plus the E60 does not have the Topaz blue, which is the color I love.

I do miss the active cruise control, something I wish I had, but I could not get over the look of the car.

There are a lot of pro's to the E60, but styling is far from one of them.

I wasn't real keen on the E60, but I've seen a few modded ones that really look great. The fender well takes to big skins real well. We've all got our opinions of which 5er is our favorite. I like the E60 more now than when I first saw it. Maybe it's just growing on me. I saw a spankin new CLK 500 on the road tonite, it reminded me of an old Dodge Intrepid. So there ya go.

This thread can die.

I like the E60 more now than when I first saw it. Maybe it's just growing on me. I saw a spankin new CLK 500 on the road tonite, it reminded me of an old Dodge Intrepid. So there ya go. Each time I see an e60 I like it just a little bit more. I'd personally still take an e39 though. And e34s are boxy :devillook :stickoutt

The new CLKs are a chick magnet if I ever saw one. Girls have orgasms when they drive by. But I'd still take my e39 thank you.

How does someone as retarded as yourself have a job that allows you to afford a BMW? I really have no problem with anything anyone has said, but give me a reason for this? I asked about a fuckin 5 series, not your opinion of me jackass.

And how did I get this girl? Gee, I dunno. Being a gentleman, treating her well, paying more attention to her kid than his dad does, being nice to her parents, and how about having my head on straight enough to get a BS in marketing in 6 months, coming out of school debt free, and owning my own house? Good enough yet? New flash. A car is not everything. I drive a damn civic and own a house. Guess my priorities are fucked. I think i might sell my house next week, buy a trailer, and get a BMW. Good fuckin idea.

And to the guys that actually replied about the car, thanks again. I tried to get her on the 545 but that doesnt help much with gas. Those $50 fill ups in the rover every 2 days are a killer. Thanks again for all the serious opinions.

Hey dude, chill out! :smoke1
You seem to be 21 going on 60! :eek:
That comment was tongue-in-cheek, but the more you write on here, the more you reveal your pathetic, anal personality. You became WAY too defensive when bähnstormer offered his opinion on the E60, responding as if you were attacked personally, and it went downhill from there. :pityfool
One does not have to know calculus at 5, graduate college at 15 and save every penny earned to be successful in life. :drink1
You are right about one thing, a car is not everything. And I'm not the type to be impressed by labels or fancy "toys". But you know what, at 21, I WOULD RATHER DRIVE A BMW than own a house! And at 21, I WOULD RATHER ski the Rockies and party in Cancun than have a mortgage over my head.
And when I was only few years older than you, I DID BUY a brand new Porsche RATHER than buying a house, and if some genie snapped her fingers and made me 21, I would do it all over again in a flash! :buttrock
And guess what, I paid for the Porsche with my own hard earned cash, rather than having to kiss my girlfiend's or her daddys :booty in order to drive a nice car! :nutz: :alright
BTW, no reply expected nor required, I already know it's going to be more of the same :bs
Cheers.

I thought this was suppose to be about buying a 5. oh well.

When I was 21 my ass was illegal in the US, working odd jobs and delivering pizza :buttrock

I thought this was suppose to be about buying a 5. oh well.

so did I :rolleyes

how do you get a degree in six months? id like to start on my third one..

and how about having my head on straight enough to get a BS in marketing in 6 months, ;)

how do you get a degree in six months? id like to start on my third one..

;) The way he wrote it is a little confusing, but I took it as meaning he will earn the degree in another 6 months. i.e. he's been working at it for 3 years or whatever, and he's 6 months away from getting the degree. If not, :dunno

yeah i figured that. just playing

The way he wrote it is a little confusing, but I took it as meaning he will earn the degree in another 6 months. i.e. he's been working at it for 3 years or whatever, and he's 6 months away from getting the degree. If not, :dunno :cool

To each his own, I'd take my hatch over an old 5 series. I'm still in the mood to tinker with my cars. I can do that on a Civic and not blow a years worth of house payments.

I never said anything about the old 5 Series, it's a BMW so I like it no matter what. But, they are boxy. He said something about the new 5's, I said something could be said about his as well. I wasnt looking for styling opinions, i was looking for mechanical pros and cons.

MDreamer and heezyo2o, thanks for the informative posts. Are the new 530's coming out coming with the 255hp i6? Just wanting to make sure. I dont think she wants to wait, but who knows.

And I actually dont have a girl that can afford a $50k car. I have a girl that has parents that can afford a $50K car. You cant make too much money while you are in medical school. Luckily she has parents that really care about her and her well being. And shes not getting an Audi. Apparently they look 'boring' to her, lol. Dont ask me.

Again thanks for all the info people.
I earn $7.50 an hour, bought my own 535i, maintain it with my own money, MORE tha tinker with cars (had a nicely tuned 1988 325is that yes was with my own shitty paycheck), pay my own insurance, own gas, etc. I love messing with cars, and do 100% of the repairs on my own with no monetary problems (ie replaced the clutch myself with the car on jackstands). BMW's aren't that expensive to own if you aren't a complete DUMBASS. I dont own a civic becuase they are small econo cars that overall drive like shit compared to a good condition E34.

But hey that's just my opinion, and everyone has one. The e34 was pretty much considered the epitome of bmw german design and engineering.

I earn $7.50 an hour, bought my own 535i, maintain it with my own money, MORE tha tinker with cars (had a nicely tuned 1988 325is that yes was with my own shitty paycheck), pay my own insurance, own gas, etc. I love messing with cars, and do 100% of the repairs on my own with no monetary problems (ie replaced the clutch myself with the car on jackstands). BMW's aren't that expensive to own if you aren't a complete DUMBASS. I dont own a civic becuase they are small econo cars that overall drive like shit compared to a good condition E34.

But hey that's just my opinion, and everyone has one. The e34 was pretty much considered the epitome of bmw german design and engineering.

try paying rent or a mortgage. and no, the E30 M3 is the epitome of BMW German design and Engineering.

I never thought the 5 series board could have so much drama, its turning into OT

You guys are just being dicks, the OP never flamed anyone, just tried to get it back on topic. Plus he never called the E34 ugly yet you guys are jumping him for it..

Tip for Hatchd, never post your age and never post how much money you (or your GF) have, it will keep it civil.

try paying rent or a mortgage. and no, the E30 M3 is the epitome of BMW German design and Engineering.
Ok - but then you shouldn't be concerned about it if you couldn't afford it. If I had to pay rent, I'd find another job and keep the e34.

phatfarm, I am happy you said that.

When I was 21 my ass was illegal in the US, working odd jobs and delivering pizza :buttrock


There was a time that would have pissed me off, but if you went from being an immigrant to owning an 01 e39, kuddos to you. citizenship is nirthright most american youths squander

Ok - but then you shouldn't be concerned about it if you couldn't afford it. If I had to pay rent, I'd find another job and keep the e34.

don't take it the wrong way, i ment to say was you're looking at it at a 2 dementionally. i'd be rollin in a E39 M5 right now if i didn't have rent to pay.

i just have to post this chat window: :D

Peter: My brother got a $1500 car deck for $6.58 today.
kaliyama: Was that the cost of the crowbar and ski mask?

don't take it the wrong way, i ment to say was you're looking at it at a 2 dementionally. i'd be rollin in a E39 M5 right now if i didn't have rent to pay.
I'd be driving a F430 if I didn't have a huge mortgage and a family... :help

post whore but I couldn't resist. ;)

There was a time that would have pissed me off, but if you went from being an immigrant to owning an 01 e39, kuddos to you. citizenship is nirthright most american youths squander

Immigrant and broke illegal immigrant are 2 different things. I was the type 2 :)
E39 is not my real achievement, it was given to me by my own company as a benefit, if you know what I am saying.
I did ran into my fair share of narrow minded rednecks blaming me for taking up "their" jobs. Now I employ whole bunch of them, giving them jobs, ironic isn't it?

I never thought the 5 series board could have so much drama, its turning into OT

You guys are just being dicks, the OP never flamed anyone, just tried to get it back on topic. Plus he never called the E34 ugly yet you guys are jumping him for it..

Tip for Hatchd, never post your age and never post how much money you (or your GF) have, it will keep it civil.

Completely agreeing with the above I want to add the same about the size of the genitals:)