I should be getting my Kirk Roll bar pretty soon and I was wanting to know if I should just plan on ditching my rear seats for good. Ideally I'd like to keep them in because I believe it's required for the SCCA class I'd like to run in for autocross next year. Does anyone have pics of how they kept their rear seats in with a Kirk roll bar? Any other roll bar?

If you don't think it's possible to leave the rear seat backs in, does SCCA have a rule that states if your roll bar interferes with keeping rear seats in that you can remove them? I thought this was the case in CCA club racing, but didn't know about SCCA.

TIA

I should be getting my Kirk Roll bar pretty soon and I was wanting to know if I should just plan on ditching my rear seats for good. Ideally I'd like to keep them in because I believe it's required for the SCCA class I'd like to run in for autocross next year. Does anyone have pics of how they kept their rear seats in with a Kirk roll bar? Any other roll bar?

If you don't think it's possible to leave the rear seat backs in, does SCCA have a rule that states if your roll bar interferes with keeping rear seats in that you can remove them? I thought this was the case in CCA club racing, but didn't know about SCCA.

TIA

Sorry to keep posting on all of your threads dude!

Anyway, here's a sample installation of an Autopower roll bar in an e36 coupe: Link (http://www.ioportracing.com/instructions/e36m3-rollbar.htm). I don't really know much about the Kirk Racing roll bars, so I don't know if they'll work in the same way or not. I would assume so though.

Also, if you're running SM class, taking out the rear seat doesn't matter. I know that taking out the rear seat a couple of years ago to trasnport tires (the other time I ran auto-x), they moved me from B-mod to SM because of that very reason.

Oh, and I will warn you, though, that the sound deadening material under the seat pad doesn't like the sun much. It has a tendency to stink up the car and the gas from it hazes up the windows.

With the Kirk bar you can keep all of your rear seats, with the exception of the side-bolster pieces.

At local events, I don't think anyone will protest you with the missing side bolsters in BSP. I'd still run the seats in there though just to be some what closer to the rules.

I just put my Autopower in and had to remove the side bolsters as well.. I plan on zip tying them to the rollbar so I wont get protested :)

my side bolsters do not fit in w/my autopower bar either

I still have my side bolsters from my TC Kline rollbar if someone wants a spare set, so they don't have to ruin theirs. They fit fine with the roll bar and are in great condition, but the foam is now permanately shaped where the bar was. :) $40.

http://www.ceegeez.com/images/large/img22x.jpg

FWIW - I am having kearney racing keep my side bolsters. They are cutting a hole in the middle of them to fit the bar through, that's one option.

FWIW - I am having kearney racing keep my side bolsters. They are cutting a hole in the middle of them to fit the bar through, that's one option.
The guy who installed my bar was going to do the same thing. I told him not to since I knew my car would (hopefully) become an IP car and I didn't really care what the interior looked like in the meantime.

The guy who installed my bar was going to do the same thing. I told him not to since I knew my car would (hopefully) become an IP car and I didn't really care what the interior looked like in the meantime.

wow you mean a real RACE CAR??? :D :stickoutt

I have a custom cage, but had my side bolsters re- upholstered - basically you cut a hole out where the roll bar goes and the auto interior shop cut the leather and restitched it. It looks almost like the car came that way.

Here is my Autopower bar. The side bolsters fit, but are smashed up a little. I'm going to make a rear seat delete panel soon, but for the time being the car is way quieter with the bottom and sides of the rear seats in.

Sorry for OT

Were are you guys mounting the lap belts to your harnesses?

Thanks,
-C

Sorry for OT

Were are you guys mounting the lap belts to your harnesses?

Thanks,
-C

either to the cage itself or to eye bolts that are welded onto plates which are welded onto the chassis

either to the cage itself or to eye bolts that are welded onto plates which are welded onto the chassis
:rolleyes .................... :stickoutt

I will be getting a custom roll-bar soon NOT a cage. Were does everybody else mount them?

-C

:rolleyes .................... :stickoutt

I will be getting a custom roll-bar soon NOT a cage. Were does everybody else mount them?

-C

like I said before..."or to eye bolts that are welded onto plates which are welded onto the chassis"

woops, i feel stupid. :embarrasm

but still there has to be another place to mount them.

but still there has to be another place to mount them.

Not to mount them correctly so that they aren't kinked when going through the seat holes. Occasionally the stock belt mounting points will work, but only if you place the seat in the perfect spot to make them work. Further, you'll always need a reinforced place to mount the 5th/6th point crotch straps.

The shoulder straps can be wrapped around the harness bar on your rollbar.

I ran a custom roll bar last year with no side bolsters in a couple of national auto-x events in BSP and did not get protested :shifty