Hello All,

First let me start by saying that i am a BMW and SRt-4 owner, a few of you on the board may know of my S-14 powered E21 so this is not an SRT owns all thread!
Well my best friend just got his european spec E34 M5 out of the body shop, it had been there for a while, and the whole time wev e been waiting to run it against my SRT-4 (unfortunetaly for him it was in the shop long enough for me to get my Stage 2 kit on the srt-4 :) )
Anyways we did 3 runs, 2 from a dig and 1 highway roll. Both runs from a dig had the same results, he would pull me until i got traction, and about halfway through second gear id me going by him. Id say in the quarter i would have 6-7 cars on him easy.
Highway roll was a little closer, we went from 60-140 on the autostrada here in sicily, and i put about 4-5 cars on him before we ran outta road. In the end alotta fun, and i felt really proud of my little "neon" :buttrock !

SRT-4 in europe? Is that rare there? Good kill. I got into it with one the other day from a stand still, had him till about 65mph with him on my bumper and him creeping up on me, stopped due to traffic but he looked like he would have caught me!!

Yeah they dont sell the SRT-4 in eurpoe, i am military so I bought mine in the US, as of now there are only 2 In Italy that i know of, and they are both on my base.

We have a local SRT 4 here...very stock looking...dynoing at 450 rwhp. runs 11.6 in the 1/4 @ 124 mph!. Turbo up grade To4e @ 24 psi. on a stock motor. Needless to say...he has many kills.

We have a local SRT 4 here...very stock looking...dynoing at 450 rwhp. runs 11.6 in the 1/4 @ 124 mph!. Turbo up grade To4e @ 24 psi. on a stock motor. Needless to say...he has many kills.
Yeah but none on you lol.

Impressive to say the least. *Sigh* If only it was RWD.

450 "F"whp :)

Nice kill! You gotta love the speed of the SRT-4, I always wanter to run one just to see how fast they really are.

Hello All,

First let me start by saying that i am a BMW and SRt-4 owner, a few of you on the board may know of my S-14 powered E21 so this is not an SRT owns all thread!
Well my best friend just got his european spec E34 M5 out of the body shop, it had been there for a while, and the whole time wev e been waiting to run it against my SRT-4 (unfortunetaly for him it was in the shop long enough for me to get my Stage 2 kit on the srt-4 :) )
Anyways we did 3 runs, 2 from a dig and 1 highway roll. Both runs from a dig had the same results, he would pull me until i got traction, and about halfway through second gear id me going by him. Id say in the quarter i would have 6-7 cars on him easy.
Highway roll was a little closer, we went from 60-140 on the autostrada here in sicily, and i put about 4-5 cars on him before we ran outta road. In the end alotta fun, and i felt really proud of my little "neon" :buttrock !

Nice kill! I'm not familiar with what the older M5s are capable of. Does anyone know approximately what an E34 M5 would run in the 1/4?

Nice kill! I'm not familiar with what the older M5s are capable of. Does anyone know approximately what an E34 M5 would run in the 1/4?

Around 14.0 @ 100mph

Nice kill I love the way they feel when you open up the throttle on the srt.

I've raced a couple and got decimated, but then again I'm not fast lol. If I was manual with all my mods instead of auto those instances would have been quite different. I love the gearboxes on bimmers. My friends auto slk 230 stock auto is 7.1, manual is 7.0 lol. Mine stock is 8.1, manual is 7.0, damn thats a big increase!!!

SRT-4 in europe? Is that rare there? Good kill. I got into it with one the other day from a stand still, had him till about 65mph with him on my bumper and him creeping up on me, stopped due to traffic but he looked like he would have caught me!!
are you stock???just wondering the outcome if I get a chance to cross one someday!!!

Hello All,

First let me start by saying that i am a BMW and SRt-4 owner, a few of you on the board may know of my S-14 powered E21 so this is not an SRT owns all thread!
Well my best friend just got his european spec E34 M5 out of the body shop, it had been there for a while, and the whole time wev e been waiting to run it against my SRT-4 (unfortunetaly for him it was in the shop long enough for me to get my Stage 2 kit on the srt-4 :) )
Anyways we did 3 runs, 2 from a dig and 1 highway roll. Both runs from a dig had the same results, he would pull me until i got traction, and about halfway through second gear id me going by him. Id say in the quarter i would have 6-7 cars on him easy.
Highway roll was a little closer, we went from 60-140 on the autostrada here in sicily, and i put about 4-5 cars on him before we ran outta road. In the end alotta fun, and i felt really proud of my little "neon" :buttrock !
Nice kill. Do you have any exhaust work done? If not put that on the top of your mod list. Even a 2.5" catback will uncork another 15whp/20wtq if you already have S2. These little Neons pull pretty hard. Kill stories like this almost make me rethink putting mine up for sale. :( I think I'll probably miss the obnoxious little exhaust snarl most of all.

There are a few in Germany I've heard. I know a handfull of guys stationed at Rammstein have picked one up. In fact there's a clip somewhere online of a guy doing 160mph+ in his bone stock SRT-4 on the autobahn. :eek:

BTW...I met a late 30's/early 40's silver SRT-4 owner from SoCal named Rob a couple months ago. He fabricated his own CAI through one of the fog light holes. It was really clean believe it or not. Anyways, talk about a shot in the dark...a guy named Rob in Italy...but the reason I mention him is because I'm pretty sure was in the USAF. Last I spoke to him he was heading off to Italy.

yay for dodge.

Yeah but none on you lol.

I dont think I want much of him at the track..if I can catch him on a lonely street without his slicks...it will be a good race.

I dont think I want much of him at the track..if I can catch him on a lonely street without his slicks...it will be a good race.

Sneak attack!!

I dont think I want much of him at the track..if I can catch him on a lonely street without his slicks...it will be a good race.
Why wouldn't you want him at the track?? you have so much hp and tq over him. Do you not catch traction or something at the track???

Why wouldn't you want him at the track?? you have so much hp and tq over him. Do you not catch traction or something at the track???

I would need slicks to keep up with him......Probably have much more torque...but hp is similiar.

Was it a 3.8 M5 or 3.6? The 3.8 can run a sub-14 second 1/4 but a modded Neon would still be faster. I ran a stock one and pulled him pretty easily on an uphill grade from about 40-90mph. However, I would imagine these days quite a few aren't stock. I am not sure I would want to go 140mph in a Neon.

I won't be racing any SRT 4's
Bet I look better going slow. :D

nice kill!

where in italy are you exactly?

satchmo, you on these boards too? lol WS lol


bassmaster, you should get him to go, from a 60 to 80 roll or so, no one would need slicks

i'm telling ya those are some fast cars

i raced a black one in houston on the freeway, and it walked me worse than a c5 corvette did...incredibly fast

eh SRT4s are ok, but they are FWD. once you get abover a certin amount of power your never gonna hook good enough.

i love all the mixed respnses i get about the SRT-4, its always a fun topic of conversation.
Is it a Neon? Well its not on the registration, or on the car, so no its not really a neon, but lets get real, its as much of a neon as a evo 8 is a lancer and an M3 is a 318, so yeah its a neon :)
Looks are suggestive, im sure theres people in the world who think the enzo is ugly lol!
Its front wheel drive it will NEVER hook. Well lets look at that, it is a true statement, it will never hook as well as a well setup rear or all wheel drive car. but The SRT-4 can run 13.8 stock with terrible 60 foot times, whats that mean? Well it means when it gets traction it straight hauls A%^ lol, ive never worried about beeing behind abit on the launch, just makes it all the more fun to go buy em when i "hook". I have raced a couple all wheel drive sierra cosworths and a WRX, by the end of the quarter i had them all, thats all that really matters right?
Like i said i dont belive the SRT owns all by no means, my s14 powered e21 will destroy it on an autocross course, bastard child BMW my butt!
Oh and about going 140 in a neon? try 170, lotsa fun, and yes felt very very stable (i do have tein suspension on the car, the stock suspension was probably the worst thing ive ever seen in my life!)
In the end for 21g and another g in stage 2 and exhaust the thing flat hauls ass, and for bimmer comparison i have shown my tailights on 4 different occasions to an s54 powered mcoupe convertible, that was my proudest kill to date! :redspot :buttrock

srt-4 maybee fast cars and for the amount of money I paid my car I could have one modified ass hell but still I m happy with my choice!!!love my car like no srt-4 could!!!

Wow! I guess the SRT-4 is pretty fast! I thought they did 0-60 in like 6.2secs?

Wow! I guess the SRT-4 is pretty fast! I thought they did 0-60 in like 6.2secs?

I think they're around 5.5-5.8 depending on the magazine. With stage 2 it's supposedly down to 4.7 though. Hooking up FWD is like trying to spoon a fat chick though.

satchmo, you on these boards too? lol WS lol



:D This is one of my many lurking spots

It's so amazing what can be done with the $20-$30K cars nowadays. You've got the STI's, EVO's and these pissed off turboed SRT's. Kinda bums me out. I mean imagine if the M3 came with a turbo engine. :mad

How about a SRT4 powerplant in a Lotus Elise? :eek:

How about a SRT4 powerplant in a Lotus Elise? :eek:
Now that is the kind of transplant I wouldn't be ashamed of. Would it fit though?

i raced 2 of them before i beat them,
I DONT CARE IF IT RUNS 9s .25MILE,DODGE IS DODGE IF MY M3 RAN 15s .25 MILE STILL TAKE THE M3.
7O% of girls tell me my car is sexy,other 30% tell me its hot,u dont heare this stuff about "almighty neon",it all what u lookin for u want a fast car go get "THE NEON"or some 1st gen eclipse w/turbos,or evo,or STI,they are fast,but thats it,car is ugly as $...,look my M3 is not the fastes but its fast enough for me and it has some SWEET seats(dodge cant beat this).
///Mpower :buttrock

i raced 2 of them before i beat them,
I DONT CARE IF IT RUNS 9s .25MILE,DODGE IS DODGE IF MY M3 RAN 15s .25 MILE STILL TAKE THE M3.
7O% of girls tell me my car is sexy,other 30% tell me its hot,u dont heare this stuff about "almighty neon",it all what u lookin for u want a fast car go get "THE NEON"or some 1st gen eclipse w/turbos,or evo,or STI,they are fast,but thats it,car is ugly as $...,look my M3 is not the fastes but its fast enough for me and it has some SWEET seats(dodge cant beat this).
///Mpower :buttrock

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/whocares4.jpg

Is it a Neon? Well its not on the registration, or on the car, so no its not really a neon, but lets get real, its as much of a neon as a evo 8 is a lancer and an M3 is a 318, so yeah its a neon

:help

i have no idea why posts in this kills section count toward post count.

Just to be a good sport i gotta call you out jesus freak, according to your profile your 21, and you have an e46 m3. Now judging by your above post i seriously doubt you could afford it, so if you DO own one im sure you didnt pay for it, so lets see some proof? And if you can then feel free to fly the biggest owned sign you can find by my screen name, just something about your posts makes me highly doubt you own an e46 M3!

Keep it civil, gents... or this one is done... :cop

i raced 2 of them before i beat them,
I DONT CARE IF IT RUNS 9s .25MILE,DODGE IS DODGE IF MY M3 RAN 15s .25 MILE STILL TAKE THE M3.
7O% of girls tell me my car is sexy,other 30% tell me its hot,u dont heare this stuff about "almighty neon",it all what u lookin for u want a fast car go get "THE NEON"or some 1st gen eclipse w/turbos,or evo,or STI,they are fast,but thats it,car is ugly as $...,look my M3 is not the fastes but its fast enough for me and it has some SWEET seats(dodge cant beat this).
///Mpower :buttrock

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if you need a car to get you girls, you have problems that go far beyond what kind of car you drive.

If this takes a personal angle, it's done. Keep it on topic, or it's done. :cop

Was this M5 with the 3.8 or 3.6 ?

i love all the mixed respnses i get about the SRT-4, its always a fun topic of conversation.
Is it a Neon? Well its not on the registration, or on the car, so no its not really a neon, but lets get real, its as much of a neon as a evo 8 is a lancer and an M3 is a 318, so yeah its a neon :)
Looks are suggestive, im sure theres people in the world who think the enzo is ugly lol!
Its front wheel drive it will NEVER hook. Well lets look at that, it is a true statement, it will never hook as well as a well setup rear or all wheel drive car. but The SRT-4 can run 13.8 stock with terrible 60 foot times, whats that mean? Well it means when it gets traction it straight hauls A%^ lol, ive never worried about beeing behind abit on the launch, just makes it all the more fun to go buy em when i "hook". I have raced a couple all wheel drive sierra cosworths and a WRX, by the end of the quarter i had them all, thats all that really matters right?
Like i said i dont belive the SRT owns all by no means, my s14 powered e21 will destroy it on an autocross course, bastard child BMW my butt!
Oh and about going 140 in a neon? try 170, lotsa fun, and yes felt very very stable (i do have tein suspension on the car, the stock suspension was probably the worst thing ive ever seen in my life!)
In the end for 21g and another g in stage 2 and exhaust the thing flat hauls ass, and for bimmer comparison i have shown my tailights on 4 different occasions to an s54 powered mcoupe convertible, that was my proudest kill to date! :redspot :buttrock
WOW! :eek: Well I was thinking about buying my fiancee an E46 325 to mod. But used with over 50K miles that's like $25K. So instead I can buy the SRT-4 brand new, throw on a few mods and have an extra car that will haul a$$? Hmmmmmmm...she said all she needs is a 4-door. And they are kinda cute cars for a chick to drive too. :devillook

I'd still take the M5 :D

Sweet kill though, those things are too fast.

Why would anybody with an M3 have the need or impulse to insult somebody with a Neon? Life is good. You drive an M3. Give the SRT-4 its fair due. Plenty of people give M3 owners compliments, no?

Why would anybody with an M3 have the need or impulse to insult somebody with a Neon? Life is good. You drive an M3. Give the SRT-4 its fair due. Plenty of people give M3 owners compliments, no?
I actually am thinking of buying an SRT-4 if my fiancee is ok with it. She said it has to be a 4-door. So I think that means I believe the SRT-4 is quite a car. :redspot

WOW! :eek: Well I was thinking about buying my fiancee an E46 325 to mod. But used with over 50K miles that's like $25K. So instead I can buy the SRT-4 brand new, throw on a few mods and have an extra car that will haul a$$? Hmmmmmmm...she said all she needs is a 4-door. And they are kinda cute cars for a chick to drive too. :devillook

If you are serious about that shoot me a PM. My '04 SRT-4 is for sale. My younger brother lives in San Diego too so I would be happy to deliver the car to you if you end up buying it. Dodges depreciate like no other. I paid about $22,500 before TTL in October of '03. Car has about $2,500 in mods. I'm grabbing my ankles by asking $17,500. She gets more TLC than my wife. Still 20k miles left on the factory tires even. I have fun with the car but mostly on the freeway and twisty roads. Your wife will love it. Thank God mine doesn't drive stick. :D

erospec1 i do own an e46 m3,if u dont belive me i can easyly proveit to u(take pics of the car regestration etc...blah blah blah),look man if i put u down my bad,im just not into american cars(exept for work trucks)or other imports like EVO or STI,and no i dont need my car to get girls,im one girl man and im stay that way,
im just tellin u what people say about my car thats it,i bet m3 and m5 owners get that alot(more than regular cars)
srt-4 are fast ok,but i havent seen one that takes my M3,

im sry but this is one of my unexplainable downfalls i suppose, and that is that i hate the srt4 with a passion. To me it is like taking a geo metro and hoping it up but at the same time id rather have a raced out geo metro over an srt4. again i have no idea why, but they just rub me the wrong way. it is probably the only car i feel this way about. sry for ranting. happy motoring.

srt-4 are fast ok,but i havent seen one that takes my M3,

{raises hand}

me and my car when i first gotit in august,ill post pick of registration tomorow its to late now (2:59 a.m.)

The m5 has the 3.6, i belive there was only one year (92?) that the e34 has the 3.8. havent raced one of those i cant belive there faster then an s54 coupe? i dont know. How does an e46 M3 stand up to the S54 coupe? (not to many M3's here in sicily).
Hey to each his own with your car, the best thing about the srt-4 is the mixed response, like i said, everyone has an opinion on the car, good or bad. That to me means its something cool to own and something thats in the back of every car guys minds.

haha neons are death traps

Hey robert,

Care to explain? facts please:)

Hey to each his own with your car, the best thing about the srt-4 is the mixed response, like i said, everyone has an opinion on the car, good or bad. That to me means its something cool to own and something thats in the back of every car guys minds.

I used to think about SRT-4's. My buddy got an '05 and it is pretty sweet, especially for the price, but I can no longer talk to him about cars anymore.

His head has been blown up so big like the other 2 local SRT drivers and the countless on an SRT forum my buddy has me lurking on. I understand that they are the "best bang for the buck", and if I was in the market I would definitely look at one. But this is not about the $$$ or performance, but rather the model's "following".

I respect just about any car for it's ability and what not, but when I hear a certain "crowd" continue to not give that respect back, but rather excuses or "ifs and buts" rather than respect, then the image of the car suffers. An example being the old: "Well I can spend 5k and......." or " XXXX car cost 2x as much....what a POS".

Bottomline.....just about every thread in this forum, about the SRT-4, has ended with an overwhelming voice that the car is a good "bang for the buck", and "cheap to make fast", "nice", "fun", etc..

Try looking up how many other car forums bash BMWs......it's unreal. We can't even post in our OWN kill stories of M3's beating an EVO, STi, or SRT-4 without a flamefest ensuing.

I think we have been more than tolerable.

P.S. This isn't really pointed at anyone in this thread, but has been building up for the past couple of months.

I used to think about SRT-4's. My buddy got an '05 and it is pretty sweet, especially for the price, but I can no longer talk to him about cars anymore.

His head has been blown up so big like the other 2 local SRT drivers and the countless on an SRT forum my buddy has me lurking on. I understand that they are the "best bang for the buck", and if I was in the market I would definitely look at one. But this is not about the $$$ or performance, but rather the model's "following".

I respect just about any car for it's ability and what not, but when I hear a certain "crowd" continue to not give that respect back, but rather excuses or "ifs and buts" rather than respect, then the image of the car suffers. An example being the old: "Well I can spend 5k and......." or " XXXX car cost 2x as much....what a POS".

Bottomline.....just about every thread in this forum, about the SRT-4, has ended with an overwhelming voice that the car is a good "bang for the buck", and "cheap to make fast", "nice", "fun", etc..

Try looking up how many other car forums bash BMWs......it's unreal. We can't even post in our OWN kill stories of M3's beating an EVO, STi, or SRT-4 without a flamefest ensuing.

I think we have been more than tolerable.

P.S. This isn't really pointed at anyone in this thread, but has been building up for the past couple of months.

Thank you for saying that. I didn't want to be the guy, but I think too many people with non-BMW cars are coming on the forum and bashing us and our cars. As long as everything is kept civil it's fine, but most of the time it seems that people are registering only because they want to post once how much better their __________ car is than our bimmers.

well if they are proud to beat B.M.W I m happy for them what I know for myself is that if I wanted an srt 4 I d have one.......!!!

i raced 2 of them before i beat them,
I DONT CARE IF IT RUNS 9s .25MILE,DODGE IS DODGE IF MY M3 RAN 15s .25 MILE STILL TAKE THE M3.
7O% of girls tell me my car is sexy,other 30% tell me its hot,u dont heare this stuff about "almighty neon",it all what u lookin for u want a fast car go get "THE NEON"or some 1st gen eclipse w/turbos,or evo,or STI,they are fast,but thats it,car is ugly as $...,look my M3 is not the fastes but its fast enough for me and it has some SWEET seats(dodge cant beat this).
///Mpower :buttrock


haha neons are death traps

This gives us a bad name. BF.C used to be better than this.

I'm still trying to figure out if this guy knows how much of a lead "6 or 7 cars" actually is?

Dave, can you do the math? if car x can go xx.xx seconds and trap xxx.xx mph then to put 7 car lengths on him you need to go xxxxxxxxxxx.

you know what i am talking about. how many tenths of a second = 1 car length?

DAVE!!!!!!!


i dont know why people try to compare an e34 M5 to a Dodge Neon...? he raced the m5 and he beat the m5. one is a world class automobile and the other is an inexpensive compact.. thats like comparing a ducati 999 to 250 dirt bike. the cars have totally 2 differnt purposes.

hey brent,

Yeah i do understand what 6 or 7 car lenghts is,cars and racing are for me, like most people in this forum a way of life. as far as what the cars can run, remember my srt-4 is far from stock.
And Please dont think i belive the srt-4>BMW, couse thats not the case, the srt-4 does what its supposed to do very well, but BMW's are defenetily better cars, those price tags are there for a reason :)
Heres a few pics of my s-14 e21 just so yall dont think im a bimmer hater, so you know the srt-4 gets driven to work everyday while my bimmer only comes out on weekends :buttrock

What I'd like to see is some respect for the new Mustang gt that runs mid 13's and low 13's with a simple exhaust and intake...

That car's a monster N/A!

A ford magazine just came out with an article explaining how easily you can get this car into the 12's n/a with just a few certain bolt-ons! Respect that, neon lovers. :)

I gotta give it to ford, the new mustang is a huge improvement from the mustangs of the past few years, and its a great looking car. But the N/A vs forced induction arguement has been beat to death, the way i see it Horsepower is horsepower, wiether you do it with a turbo or with more cubes, end result is horsepower and timeslips, we all know that the best way to make unreal horsepower is with both cubes and forced induction (top fuel dragsters) so why do people still even bring it up?

Good job on beating that M5 :) The other car is 10 years older and stock versus your modified new car.. :rolleyes Go meet Mert in Istanbul and race his M3 for a reality check.

Any car can be made fast but to be both fast and sexy you need a ferrari, porsche or an M bimmer. Just to be fast a volvo142 will do, 580hp 10.5s 1/4 http://www.zatzy.com/vbgarage.php?&do=view&id=3445

That is one nasty volvo. :eyecrazy You are right about making any car go fast, though. Just picture the three cylinder geo storms that race at the ssalt flats here in the US, those things really move.

I gotta give it to ford, the new mustang is a huge improvement from the mustangs of the past few years, and its a great looking car. But the N/A vs forced induction arguement has been beat to death, the way i see it Horsepower is horsepower, wiether you do it with a turbo or with more cubes, end result is horsepower and timeslips, we all know that the best way to make unreal horsepower is with both cubes and forced induction (top fuel dragsters) so why do people still even bring it up?


Nothing against turbos. It's just quite unique to get a lot of power out of a N/a with simple boltons. Especially a dramatic improvement like that. I just thought it was worth mentioning. :redspot

The m5 has the 3.6, i belive there was only one year (92?) that the e34 has the 3.8. havent raced one of those i cant belive there faster then an s54 coupe? i dont know. How does an e46 M3 stand up to the S54 coupe? (not to many M3's here in sicily).
Hey to each his own with your car, the best thing about the srt-4 is the mixed response, like i said, everyone has an opinion on the car, good or bad. That to me means its something cool to own and something thats in the back of every car guys minds.


All U.S. Spec e34 m5's had the 3.6; the 94 and 95 (think 93 was still the 3.6) Euro m5's had the 3.8 w/ 340 HP and 6 individual throttle bodies.

eurospec1...what is your full mod list? I'm trying to gauge what kind of pull an E46 M3 coupe has over the M5 you beat. I didn't feel like starting another 10 page SRT-4 thread when I pulled 2 car lengths on an E46 M3 vert going across the San Mateo Bridge...plus I know the coupes are a lot lighter and quicker...but I'm sorta curious to know where I stand with my current mods.

I got rid of my 95 3.2-swapped M3 and bought an SRT-4. I did it primarily because the insurance on the M3 was raping me, but also I didn't like the general attitude of the community ("Our cars are superior than all others." "DomesticBrandX is crap" "I can take any car in handling!" "It's STILL just a neon", etc).

About 10 months after my purcase, I realize there are probably a higher % of SRT-4 fanboys. I guess I should start looking for something else :(

Why can't people just drive what they love and respect the rest?

-A

About 10 months after my purcase, I realize there are probably a higher % of SRT-4 fanboys. I guess I should start looking for something else :(

Why can't people just drive what they love and respect the rest?

-A

Because the majority of SRT-4 owners are cocky and under 21. I hardly get on SRTForums.com anymore for that reason.

Because the majority of SRT-4 owners are cocky and under 21. I hardly get on SRTForums.com anymore for that reason.

I think the majority of people who post on the SRT forums are young and cocky. 99% of the local SRT-4 owners I've met are cool though. Except Petar. That guy's actually a convicted child molestor.

JK Petar! :alright

I think the majority of people who post on the SRT forums are young and cocky. 99% of the local SRT-4 owners I've met are cool though.

I've met a few locals, but they've all been older and they've all been really cool and pretty knowledgeable. It just seems like it's gotten really bad on the forums the past 6 months - 1 year. Back when I first joined there wasn't anywhere near the amount of fanbois and misinformation. You could actually find out good info and not have to sift through pages and pages of the same questions being asked a thousand times. I know a lot of the guys who used to be regulars don't hardly post anymore because its gotten so bad.

Except Petar. That guy's actually a convicted child molestor.

:D

I've met a few locals, but they've all been older and they've all been really cool and pretty knowledgeable. It just seems like it's gotten really bad on the forums the past 6 months - 1 year. Back when I first joined there wasn't anywhere near the amount of fanbois and misinformation. You could actually find out good info and not have to sift through pages and pages of the same questions being asked a thousand times. I know a lot of the guys who used to be regulars don't hardly post anymore because its gotten so bad.

Yep. That about sums it up. I don't blame the mods or admins...it's the online community that's seems to have been drawn to this car. A lot of the time when I read some juvenile post I'll click on the poster's profile and it will say "soon to be an SRT-4" in the field where it asks what car you own. True fanbois in the strictest sense of the word. :rolleyes

North America cars-e34 M5 had 3.6 L and 6 t bodies. 311 Hp. 267 trq. Early models had 3.91 limited slip diff.

E46 M3 quite a bit faster than E34 M5.

thats like comparing a ducati 999 to 250 dirt bike. the cars have totally 2 differnt purposes.

More like a 999 to a Kawasaki H2.


cheers,
scott