2 weeks ago on the toll road in OC
I see the guy fly up on me, I down shift and wait, he hits my bumper at around 80, I hit the gas, kreep up slow and then Destoy it at 120....
He never catches up..
I pull in the slow lane to exit, he comes up on me and does a weak ass ricer fly by as I get off.. :confused

he hits your bumper at 80 :confused

pics of said bumper or teh ban :stickoutt

Yeah he had a sticker on his car!.....damm ricers...

Lol BMW can be loud like rice cars unlike the AMG. So how is down shifting on that auto trans. :stickoutt This is why my friend got rid of his E46 M3 for a b6 S4. I would of kept the M3 though.

he hits your bumper at 80 :confused

pics of said bumper or teh ban :stickoutt

ya know what I mean...I Wonder if he was SMG??

i call fake kill :shifty











j/k :D

Lol BMW can be loud like rice cars unlike the AMG. So how is down shifting on that auto trans. :stickoutt This is why my friend got rid of his E46 M3 for a b6 S4. I would of kept the M3 though.

Its pretty easy, ya just hit the shifter..then it winds a little at high RPMS, then ya thow it back, it launches, if you over rev it hesitates a little..then launches really hard...lol

i call fake kill :shifty











j/k :D

I call fake badged M3 on the kill..he went down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its pretty easy, ya just hit the shifter..then it winds a little at high RPMS, then ya thow it back, it launches, if you over rev it hesitates a little..then launches really hard...lol

So gone up against an E55 AMG? or CLK55 AMG?

W211 E55, some old guy got me, but was really suprised he did not totally wipe me out...

at least he drove home in a bmw













j/k hed have taken u in the twisties.

My guess is that your C32 is modified. I have owned two E46 M3s and have raced 3 or 4 C32s and have beaten all of them. Not by much though. Maybe 1 car length 0-100. They are fast. I have been lucky and have had two particularly fast M3s. I run it hard daily though which keeps it runnng fast. My E46 convertible regularly whips my friends hardtop M3 and it runs dead even with my 355(true high 12 second car). I am tossing around the idea of an SL600. Drove one a few weeks ago and that thing is really fast. Handles much better than I thought it would also. I like your ride.

you won on the freeway, at over 100, I don't think so.....
I have been beaten only off the line in the C32..but I caught the E46..
I was on the phone and not paying attention either..

My C32 just has the resinator removed.

you won on the freeway, at over 100, I don't think so.....
I have been beaten only off the line in the C32..but I caught the E46..
I was on the phone and not paying attention either..
I can only tell you what happened several times. Like I said mine runs dead even with my 355 which runs on the bumper of c5 vettes. I dont think I have raced any on the freeway from a 100. Usually just a roll from 10-50 up to maybe 120. It's been a while though.

down low the M3 has the advantage (Depending on the driver) up top its by by...333 torque

What does 333 torque mean? whats that in Nm? I have 343hp instead of 333hp, does that help ? ;)

C32 349 HP 333 Torque
Up high is where the torque is a the winning factor for the C32 over the M3

> I am tossing around the idea of an SL600.

People who've driven both seem to favor the SL55 for twisties and the SL600 for straight-line speed. You should give them both a whirl.

Oh, and SL600 + RENNtech ECU = mid-11s car.

C32 349 HP 333 Torque
Up high is where the torque is a the winning factor for the C32 over the M3

sorry to break this to you, but you are wrong...although, torque IS important at higher speeds and RPMs, torque is what gives you the initial acceleration off the line....once moving its the HP that makes the difference.

> I am tossing around the idea of an SL600.

People who've driven both seem to favor the SL55 for twisties and the SL600 for straight-line speed. You should give them both a whirl.

Oh, and SL600 + RENNtech ECU = mid-11s car.


Way outta my league, I prefer sedans...but the E55 is too big..I really like the C32..it rocks..

sorry to break this to you, but you are wrong...although, torque IS important at higher speeds and RPMs, torque is what gives you the initial acceleration off the line....once moving its the HP that makes the difference.


It has more HP too...so whatever...

My guess is that your C32 is modified. I have owned two E46 M3s and have raced 3 or 4 C32s and have beaten all of them. Not by much though. Maybe 1 car length 0-100. They are fast. I have been lucky and have had two particularly fast M3s. I run it hard daily though which keeps it runnng fast. My E46 convertible regularly whips my friends hardtop M3 and it runs dead even with my 355(true high 12 second car). I am tossing around the idea of an SL600. Drove one a few weeks ago and that thing is really fast. Handles much better than I thought it would also. I like your ride.

How do you break in your cars?

whoever has the most hp wins right... jk nice kill...

It has more HP too...so whatever...

isn't it heavier too....and auto! hahahahah

sorry i shouldn't laugh

whoever has the most hp wins right... jk nice kill...
power:weight

nice kill

Its has an enhanced AMG Speedshift....they all do..

I can only tell you what happened several times. Like I said mine runs dead even with my 355 which runs on the bumper of c5 vettes. I dont think I have raced any on the freeway from a 100. Usually just a roll from 10-50 up to maybe 120. It's been a while though.

woa,, missed the 355 part...nice...
I have raced Vettes on the freeway..just stock..I have nosed em..no prob..

Nice sig Vader. Looks good. Where's your aluminum wing?? :redspot

EDIT I love YOU and DTM

Shouldn't the 355's be running like mid to low 12's??? The 360 is running low 12's to high 11's and the new f430 is going to be running low 11's!!!!!!!!!!!!

STFU and go back to DTM

You're the one with the Benz on a Bimmer site! :stickoutt

pppfffttt......its all German too me....

It has more HP too...so whatever...

may have more FW HP but I would like to see dyno charts as automatic transmissions are typically less efficient than manual/smg transmissions. also you have to take into account coefficient of drag, weight, and gearing... not sure who gets the nod in those categories... I would assume drag is pretty similar and the m3 has a slight weight advantage. Gearing... no idea where the advantage lies.

I have run an 01 e55 in my 95 540/6 and we were dead even going from about a 70MPH roll to about 130MPH and they have more horsepower than I do.

may have more FW HP but I would like to see dyno charts as automatic transmissions are typically less efficient than manual/smg transmissions. also you have to take into account coefficient of drag, weight, and gearing... not sure who gets the nod in those categories... I would assume drag is pretty similar and the m3 has a slight weight advantage. Gearing... no idea where the advantage lies.

I have run an 01 e55 in my 95 540/6 and we were dead even going from about a 70MPH roll to about 130MPH and they have more horsepower than I do.The E55 has a whole lot more Hp than you do! 282hp vs 349-362hp and you ran with him from 70 mph to 130mph? :nono I see a 60 -80 hp difference. My C43 is slower than an E55 noticebly and I love racing the 540's with my C43.On the hwy it's a drivers race C43 vs 540i 6spd.So I cant see you running even at the particular speed or any speed with a W210 E55.

What is up with all these benz guys coming to the kill section to dash on the thought of a BMW beating a merc....?

What is up with all these benz guys coming to the kill section to dash on the thought of a BMW beating a merc....?

They are trying to crush our hopes and dreams. :(

Its has an enhanced AMG Speedshift....they all do..

Yeah, Automatic

sweet ride vader

Yeah, Automatic
A HAHAHAHAHA

The E55 has a whole lot more Hp than you do! 282hp vs 349-362hp and you ran with him from 70 mph to 130mph? :nono I see a 60 -80 hp difference. My C43 is slower than an E55 noticebly and I love racing the 540's with my C43.On the hwy it's a drivers race C43 vs 540i 6spd.So I cant see you running even at the particular speed or any speed with a W210 E55.


The W211 E55 I ran with has about 100 more HP that I do...
I was keeping up with him, he was suprised he did not evaporate me...

Nice one, man these new Benzes are fast. And you did it while on your cell phone to boot! :stickoutt

2 weeks ago on the toll road in OC
I see the guy fly up on me, I down shift and wait, he hits my bumper at around 80, I hit the gas, kreep up slow and then Destoy it at 120....
He never catches up..
I pull in the slow lane to exit, he comes up on me and does a weak ass ricer fly by as I get off.. :confused


Destroy it at 120 -- yeah right ... :rolleyes .. and yes, I've had both.

this guy would kill me
http://www.evercleartoner.com/barb.wmv

Destroy it at 120 -- yeah right ... :rolleyes .. and yes, I've had both.

Dude you drove your friends..ps Vader13 = Conechaser13

Dude you drove your friends..ps Vader13 = Conechaser13

No, I actually bought it from him and then sold it back to him. Get your facts straight. Yes, I also drove it at a road course, 1320' strip, etc.

Dude you drove your friends..ps Vader13 = Conechaser13

Ah. Conechaser13 + the C32. Gotcha. Dodgers fan right? :D

As I recall that C32 of yours is pretty souped up.

Nice car vader, what suspension set up is that?

Ah. Conechaser13 + the C32. Gotcha. Dodgers fan right? :D

As I recall that C32 of yours is pretty souped up.


Dude.. we are going to lose all the good Dodgers....pretty weak!!!!!

Nice car vader, what suspension set up is that?

Thanx..
It's Intrax Springs on the AMG Shocks
The W203 Kit they had did not work well for the C32, so I worked with them to make it work for the AMG..
It took some work, but they got it right..

No, I actually bought it from him and then sold it back to him. Get your facts straight. Yes, I also drove it at a road course, 1320' strip, etc.

thats a weird exchange....

Dude.. we are going to lose all the good Dodgers....pretty weak!!!!!

Yeah man, I'm pretty bitter about Beltre and Finley. Though he's not the best, kinda sucks about Green, but oh well. I figure that Beltre was playing his butt off because it was his final contract year.

I was in your neck of the woods (well actually LA, not OC) last month for like a night. Went to a pretty cool club in Hollywood on Sunset Blvd called Falcon. Don't know what's good around there, but I had no complaints. Then went to Body Works afterwards at like 2 am. :boobies I need more suggestions next time I go out there for bars and clubs.

Oh yeah, nice run. What is all on that C32 again?

STFU and go back to DTM

Inside joke explained... carry on, play nice...

Inside joke explained... carry on, play nice... :nono Where's your good example! LOL! :D .I wonder if I know what you're talking about. ;)

Its fellow Admin talk, you would not know..
AND WEEERE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK...
C32>M3

Yeah man, I'm pretty bitter about Beltre and Finley. Though he's not the best, kinda sucks about Green, but oh well. I figure that Beltre was playing his butt off because it was his final contract year.

I was in your neck of the woods (well actually LA, not OC) last month for like a night. Went to a pretty cool club in Hollywood on Sunset Blvd called Falcon. Don't know what's good around there, but I had no complaints. Then went to Body Works afterwards at like 2 am. :boobies I need more suggestions next time I go out there for bars and clubs.

Oh yeah, nice run. What is all on that C32 again?

Dude thats a ghey bar???? lol..PM me next time you come to SO Cal...

What is up with all these benz guys coming to the kill section to dash on the thought of a BMW beating a merc....?

and you didn't realize that's what Bimmer guys do on MBz sites :confused

Vader well done on your run but I think you need to pick on an M3 that's also at the top of his game.

Vader well done on your run but I think you need to pick on an M3 that's also at the top of his game.

:confused what?? are we gonna have a pit crew next so we can get off the freeway and adjust the setting of our car? :D

The car doesn't impress me personally, and their engines certainly don't either. You compare your car to an E46 M3.. the way I see it, both the C32 and M3 have the same displacement, ALMOST the same HP, yet the Mercedes has a blower bolted onto it and only gains 16 HP over the M?
Sorry but I'm not impressed at all. Yes, torque is great and all, but it's not really justified in this case.. I'd need a little more HP to justify the supercharger.

a kills a kill.. some BMW drivers just can't drive..so that is a factor, IF you don't hit the gears just right on the M3 you lose..The speed Shift never misses,,ever..right Frank!! lol

thats a weird exchange....

Very true -- but, do you think any weirder than my 30 day SMG stint with the e46 to the manual? :stickoutt

Nice kill man, I guess those C32's are pretty quick little cars. I remember last season when this guy had one in my run group on the track, once we got to the straight-away, I went to lay off the accel. in my Corolla to point him by ,and my instructor said, "keep it floored, he has plenty of power to pass you." :)

Very true -- but, do you think any weirder than my 30 day SMG stint with the e46 to the manual? :stickoutt

SO I am guessing you hate Autos...lol

Dude thats a ghey bar???? lol..PM me next time you come to SO Cal...

Dude-I looked at digital city to see what the hell you're talking about!

http://digitalcity.com/losangeles/search/main.adp?search=falcon

This is the place I went to:

http://aolsvc.digitalcity.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?sbid=118130656

Not THIS place in Long Beach:

http://aolsvc.digitalcity.com/losangeles/bars/venue.adp?sbid=100233406

:eek:

I'm a lurker joinging in! this thread Rules!

BMW Pwns!!!!!!!1 :buttrock

SO I am guessing you hate Autos...lol

No, I actually would highly consider getting another SMG. I think I am just getting old. :stickoutt I really liked the C32. A couple of things I did not like:

a) seats -- way to uncomfortable to me. That's just me though.
b) NAV system -- horrible. For the price of the car -- it could have had a better NAV system.
c) open diff.

Other than that -- my times in the C32 were right around the SMG's lap times. The car can handle. It really needs a LSD. But, I was pretty quick in it. It takes a different style of driving; but, you can drive that thing hard. It would take a fairly talented M3 driver to outdrive a well-driven C32. I like the C32. It's a great all-around car. Not as well-handling as the M3 out of the box; but, it can hold its own fairly well. At least to 80% of the ///M's abilities IMO. Not many ///M owners could outdrive a talented C32 track driver.

The C32 had KW coilovers though, which BTW, I still have if you are interested ... in fact, I have SSR GT3's for the C32.

If you know anyone that has a C32 that wants the coilovers, or, SSR GT3's (they have S03's on them), or other misc. stuff like extra OEM C32 wheel, etc. Put them in contact with me. I'll let them go for a fair price.

a kills a kill.. some BMW drivers just can't drive..so that is a factor, IF you don't hit the gears just right on the M3 you lose..The speed Shift never misses,,ever..right Frank!! lol
Hahaha, so you're saying you are a better driver than most BMW drivers because you don't have to worry about shifting? :lol

Speed shift is lame, jump in an M3, press S6 mode.. you'll never go back to the slushbox again.

Dude-I looked at digital city to see what the hell you're talking about!

http://digitalcity.com/losangeles/search/main.adp?search=falcon

This is the place I went to:

http://aolsvc.digitalcity.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?sbid=118130656

Not THIS place in Long Beach:

http://aolsvc.digitalcity.com/losangeles/bars/venue.adp?sbid=100233406
:paranoid:
Dude I was clowning..OMG its real.. I mean how could I possibly know that..

The car doesn't impress me personally, and their engines certainly don't either. You compare your car to an E46 M3.. the way I see it, both the C32 and M3 have the same displacement, ALMOST the same HP, yet the Mercedes has a blower bolted onto it and only gains 16 HP over the M?
Sorry but I'm not impressed at all. Yes, torque is great and all, but it's not really justified in this case.. I'd need a little more HP to justify the supercharger.

different method of making the same effective HP my friend.

If you really want to compare think about what would happen if they drop the redline of the S54 to 6100rpm. What kind of number do you think the engine will make then?

Hahaha, so you're saying you are a better driver than most BMW drivers because you don't have to worry about shifting? :lol

Speed shift is lame, jump in an M3, press S6 mode.. you'll never go back to the slushbox again.


CLown...I have had a E36, a 6 Speed C240.....AMG Pwnes and its all SpeedSHift, and I like it so FU.....lol

The car doesn't impress me personally, and their engines certainly don't either. You compare your car to an E46 M3.. the way I see it, both the C32 and M3 have the same displacement, ALMOST the same HP, yet the Mercedes has a blower bolted onto it and only gains 16 HP over the M?
Sorry but I'm not impressed at all. Yes, torque is great and all, but it's not really justified in this case.. I'd need a little more HP to justify the supercharger.Yes thats true but the C32 has the blower and low compression pistons (in the 9's).With the compression that low it would need a blower to run with the M3.The E46 M3 's compression is in the 11's.The low compression pistons and the blower also give the MB's much more hp potential as well.Change the pullies and raise the boost. If you take an E46 M3 and lower the compression and add a turbo and boost, you'll have a car that has more potential HP than a NA or SC E46 M3,M5,E60 M5 or C32 or any other supercharged AMG v8.Well supercharged V8 will be close. And here are other turbocharged ex: SL600 TwinTurbo V8 ,CL65 TTV12.Mod these cars (boost,software), and it will be hard for anything to touch them. FI is the way to go for HP.I know I'm gonna hear it!

No, I actually would highly consider getting another SMG. I think I am just getting old. :stickoutt I really liked the C32. A couple of things I did not like:

a) seats -- way to uncomfortable to me. That's just me though.
b) NAV system -- horrible. For the price of the car -- it could have had a better NAV system.
c) open diff.

Other than that -- my times in the C32 were right around the SMG's lap times. The car can handle. It really needs a LSD. But, I was pretty quick in it. It takes a different style of driving; but, you can drive that thing hard. It would take a fairly talented M3 driver to outdrive a well-driven C32. I like the C32. It's a great all-around car. Not as well-handling as the M3 out of the box; but, it can hold its own fairly well. At least to 80% of the ///M's abilities IMO. Not many ///M owners could outdrive a talented C32 track driver.

The C32 had KW coilovers though, which BTW, I still have if you are interested ... in fact, I have SSR GT3's for the C32.

If you know anyone that has a C32 that wants the coilovers, or, SSR GT3's (they have S03's on them), or other misc. stuff like extra OEM C32 wheel, etc. Put them in contact with me. I'll let them go for a fair price.

post it up at MB world, you will sell em fast....I agree with the above, but I like my heated leather amg embossed 2 tone push button seats.. I took my NAV out, the stupid thing would not work with my 1300 Watt sysTTeeMM anyway..

The new C55 has a nice interior at least imagine with a kleman supercharger.......

C32>E46 M3 every 18 year old kid that daddy has money gets an E46 M3. I just like the rarity factor.

different method of making the same effective HP my friend.

If you really want to compare think about what would happen if they drop the redline of the S54 to 6100rpm. What kind of number do you think the engine will make then?

You justify it by saying it's just another method.. I don't really agree. One IS better than the other for many reasons, Mercedes tends to take an easier and cheaper approach to engine building than BMW does. Based on the last couple engines from BMW, I doubt that they will release anything with less than 100hp/liter from here on out. The M engines weigh less, are far more responsive, and use lighter transmission options than the Mercedes counterparts (which have to build an engine making it heavier, only so they can throw on a blower which makes it even more heavy.) Then there's the whole rotational mass and parasitic loss performance hits that the mercedes engines take on when building up/supercharging an engine.

I don't understand your whole "drop the redline" argument, that's like me saying take off the blower on the C32 AMG then race. Which actually, based on the specs.. wouldn't be such a bad idea, they are both 3.2 after all :)

:lol never....NEVAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Yes thats true but the C32 has the blower and low compression pistons (in the 9's).With the compression that low it would need a blower to run with the M3.The E46 M3 's compression is in the 11's.The low compression pistons and the blower also give the MB's much more hp potential as well.Change the pullies and raise the boost. If you take an E46 M3 and lower the compression and add a turbo and boost, you'll have a car that has more potential HP than a NA or SC E46 M3,M5,E60 M5 or C32 or any other supercharged AMG v8.Well supercharged V8 will be close. And here are other turbocharged ex: SL600 TwinTurbo V8 ,CL65 TTV12.Mod these cars (boost,software), and it will be hard for anything to touch them. FI is the way to go for HP.I know I'm gonna hear it!

Karl HOW DID I KNOW I WOULD FIND YOU HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

I new it was only a matter of time!

You justify it by saying it's just another method.. I don't really agree. One IS better than the other for many reasons, Mercedes tends to take an easier and cheaper approach to engine building than BMW does. Based on the last couple engines from BMW, I doubt that they will release anything with less than 100hp/liter from here on out. The M engines weigh less, are far more responsive, and use lighter transmission options than the Mercedes counterparts (which have to build an engine making it heavier, only so they can throw on a blower which makes it even more heavy.) Then there's the whole rotational mass and parasitic loss performance hits that the mercedes engines take on when building up/supercharging an engine.

I don't understand your whole "drop the redline" argument, that's like me saying take off the blower on the C32 AMG then race. Which actually, based on the specs.. wouldn't be such a bad idea, they are both 3.2 after all :)How much do the engines weigh? I know they are both aluminum.

Yes cheaper approach money wise is one thing but Quality wise would be another. It's just a different style of getting the same kind of performance but because the C32 is FI there is room for a lot more hp with the right mods. FI on the E46 with the present HC pistons and too much boost would spell disaster.


EVO SRT STi,all 4 cylinder motors capable of making the same HP as larger displacement motors because of FI. Same concept.

Wait till BMW comes out with its new turbocharged inline 6.

Karl HOW DID I KNOW I WOULD FIND YOU HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

I new it was only a matter of time!Bruno Bruno Bruno BRuno! LOL :D Welcome to the party! OH Lawd! :rolleyes ;)

The new e46 m3 is not made to handle boost of any nature. Your looking at an engine where it is running 11's in compression and is made to take advantage of it's NA setting ITB's, aggressive cams, double VANOS, etc etc etc. I am just waiting to hear about the e46 m3 with blown motors in the FI in the next year or so. This is not the same as an e36 m3 motor!

I would GO NA route there are many companies that are sell many NA products for the e46 m3 such as, Intake, exhaust, cams, Tuned ecus, etc etc etc. It is possible to get 400hp to 420hp (crankpower)from a NA M3, Exhaust alone adds almost 30 to 40hp to the M3

Wait till BMW comes out with its new turbocharged inline 6.

I don't think that BMW will ever go FI unless it is with their diesel engines. I talked to too many BMW NA people as well as tuners like RD sport and hamann. All of them says that bmw likes to stay NA. Their new goal is to produce 100hp per litre with every m engine. Not like they haven't been doing that.

How much do the engines weigh? I know they are both aluminum.

Yes cheaper approach money wise is one thing but Quality wise would be another. It's just a different style of getting the same kind of performance but because the C32 is FI there is room for a lot more hp with the right mods. FI on the E46 with the present HC pistons and too much boost would spell disaster.


EVO SRT STi,all 4 cylinder motors capable of making the same HP as larger displacement motors because of FI. Same concept.

Wait till BMW comes out with its new turbocharged inline 6.

You are totally wrong if you are implying that BMW gives half a shit about aftermarket modability of their engines, they build the highest performance engines out of the box that they can with the budget given. They are maxed out for a reason, which is personally something I like. It shows me that I got my money's worth in the first place.
As far as the weight goes, I have no idea about the Mercedes engine, the S54 weighs 326 pounds.

For the record, the 507hp all motor V10 in the new M5/M6 weighs 351 pounds.

edit: The new 3 series engines are going to use magnesium components/crankcases as well.

I don't think that BMW will ever go FI unless it is with their diesel engines. I talked to too many BMW NA people as well as tuners like RD sport and hamann. All of them says that bmw likes to stay NA. Their new goal is to produce 100hp per litre with every m engine. Not like they haven't been doing that.
From what I've seen it's supposed to be a 340hp turbo diesel.

You are totally wrong if you are implying that BMW gives half a shit about aftermarket modability of their engines, they build the highest performance engines out of the box that they can with the budget given. They are maxed out for a reason, which is personally something I like. It shows me that I got my money's worth in the first place.

I think there will always be aftermarket parts to rasie the HP of a car no matter how tapped the manf. says it is. I remember when the E46 came out everyone was saying that the car could not make any more power. As time when on it did make more power.

The new e46 m3 is not made to handle boost of any nature. Your looking at an engine where it is running 11's in compression and is made to take advantage of it's NA setting ITB's, aggressive cams, double VANOS, etc etc etc. I am just waiting to hear about the e46 m3 with blown motors in the FI in the next year or so. This is not the same as an e36 m3 motor!

I would GO NA route there are many companies that are sell many NA products for the e46 m3 such as, Intake, exhaust, cams, Tuned ecus, etc etc etc. It is possible to get 400hp to 420hp (crankpower)from a NA M3, Exhaust alone adds almost 30 to 40hp to the M3how do you know? Your car is'nt even on the road yet! LOL :lol :D Just bustin your chops Bruno. When the Hell are you gonna get your car on the road? PM me later! PS FI is the way to go my friend.i'm gonna have to show you! :evil2 ;)

From what I've seen it's supposed to be a 340hp turbo diesel.

I firgured that they won't use a turbo on a gas engine. And never on an M engine!

how do you know? Your car is'nt even on the road yet! LOL Just bustin your chops Bruno. When the Hell are you gonna get your car on the road? PM me later! PS FI is the way to go my friend.i'm gonna have to show you!

I think I will go cry now..... :( :( :(












J/K

The engine will be in this week! and I will get the bodykit and paint in 2 weeks so maybe by FEB it will be on the road! I hope I can get Car of the Month on bimmerforums once it is done!

You are totally wrong if you are implying that BMW gives half a shit about aftermarket modability of their engines, they build the highest performance engines out of the box that they can with the budget given. They are maxed out for a reason, which is personally something I like. It shows me that I got my money's worth in the first place.
As far as the weight goes, I have no idea about the Mercedes engine, the S54 weighs 326 pounds.

For the record, the 507hp all motor V10 in the new M5/M6 weighs 351 pounds.

edit: The new 3 series engines are going to use magnesium components/crankcases as well. No,I was not implying anything like that about BMW.I was only explaining that perhaps it was cheaper to build the MB motor as YOU might say but the Quality of the parts is still there on the MB motor.That's not saying anything bad about BMW motors. MB is just using a different style than BMW does to get mad hp.


P.S. Is it cheaper to raise boost and get hp or is it cheaper to change the High Compression pistons? That is the question and you tell me!



FI E36 or E46 m3> NA E36 or E46 M3 hp wise for obvious reasons. :rolleyes

Thats why the Supercharged and Turbocharged AMG's are no joke. FI FI FI!!!!!!!

You are totally wrong if you are implying that BMW gives half a shit about aftermarket modability of their engines, they build the highest performance engines out of the box that they can with the budget given. They are maxed out for a reason, which is personally something I like. It shows me that I got my money's worth in the first place.
As far as the weight goes, I have no idea about the Mercedes engine, the S54 weighs 326 pounds.

For the record, the 507hp all motor V10 in the new M5/M6 weighs 351 pounds.

edit: The new 3 series engines are going to use magnesium components/crankcases as well.

Profanity in the Main Forums = :nono

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205093

I firgured that they won't use a turbo on a gas engine. And never on an M engine!
330ti, I guess it's still a rumor, but they need something cool like that to boost publicity. I'd take one!

I don't think that BMW will ever go FI unless it is with their diesel engines. I talked to too many BMW NA people as well as tuners like RD sport and hamann. All of them says that bmw likes to stay NA. Their new goal is to produce 100hp per litre with every m engine. Not like they haven't been doing that.I read an article in a European car magazine printed in England that BMW is coming out with a twin turbocharged diesel inline 6 and a gasoline powered turbocharged inline 6 .I'll have to find it and post it.

Lol... Vader 13 and the bimmereater!

Driving with vader is!!!!!!!!!!!!

hahahahahah nice...

i posted -- i ran my chipped srt4 with exhaust against a c32.. all the way up to almost 160

he could not gain the initial jump i had (started a car or 2 ahead in 1 lane) he never got to my bumper


and i ran e46 m3 once, he could not pull at all from 30 to 120 on an expressway here


anything is possible on the streets


for now we'll leave it


srt4 > c32 > m3


:lol: that aughta get em going :rofl:

ricer punks in thier Dodge rockets.....
PS If a kid in a SRT tries to race me agine, I am going to flip him off and laff at him..
What is it with you guys??/

Peter... Your car will fall apart at 20K miles... lol :lol

This is a car!!!!!!!!!!!

Peter... Your car will fall apart at 20K miles... lol :lol



nope!

im at 27k without a SINGLE problem! its amazing how these were built :buttrock


cast iron block, some other goodies.. this car was made for speed :evil2




what is it with srt4 owners? good question, i'll bet most are out to prove something.. most of them are punk kids that will get millions of tickets etc..

oh well.. i have yet to back out of any race :rofl:

This is a car!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

you sold it before it was going to blow up!!! :D

I wouldn't mind to ride that pink car next to the g35! :D

LOL

you sold it before it was going to blow up!!! :D

It blew up after he sold it..... :biglaughb

The E55 has a whole lot more Hp than you do! 282hp vs 349-362hp and you ran with him from 70 mph to 130mph? :nono I see a 60 -80 hp difference. My C43 is slower than an E55 noticebly and I love racing the 540's with my C43.On the hwy it's a drivers race C43 vs 540i 6spd.So I cant see you running even at the particular speed or any speed with a W210 E55.

you can say all you want but i did in-fact run an e55 and he did in-fact not pull on me. I am not saying I pulled on him we would give/regain a few feet as each of us shifted into the real meat of our powerbands but in the end we were dead even. And in reference to the 282 hp I dyno'd 254WHP 258WTQ when I was stock so I think I might be putting out a little more than 282 dependant on drive-train loss and what I have gained with my current modifications (although they aren't really substantial at this point). I have tried to run a C43 but he wouldn't do it.

and also, when i was stock my car trapped at 101.75.
when i ran the e55 i had:
-chip
-test pipes
-cai with filter element fully exposed
-13lb flywheel as opposed to i believe a 38lb flywheel stock
-3.64 rear end (2.93 is stock)
-and i might have had the rear seats/trunk lining/jack/spare tire out as well but I really don't remember.

This is exactly the reason I don't post what happens when I am on the street on these forums, though... people do nothing but call BS. I also had a run with a c5 from 90-150 where we were dead even. Granted, I was somewhat stripped and he had another decent sized guy in the car. I talked to him afterword and he couldn't believe it. He was cool about it, though. But I didn't come on here and post it because everyone and their brother would call BS... I honestly couldn't believe we stayed even. I thought for sure he was going to absolutely walk me.

LOL

you sold it before it was going to blow up!!! :D


ssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhlol :shifty

you can say all you want but i did in-fact run an e55 and he did in-fact not pull on me. I am not saying I pulled on him we would give/regain a few feet as each of us shifted into the real meat of our powerbands but in the end we were dead even. And in reference to the 282 hp I dyno'd 254WHP 258WTQ when I was stock so I think I might be putting out a little more than 282 dependant on drive-train loss and what I have gained with my current modifications (although they aren't really substantial at this point). I have tried to run a C43 but he wouldn't do it.

and also, when i was stock my car trapped at 101.75.
when i ran the e55 i had:
-chip
-test pipes
-cai with filter element fully exposed
-13lb flywheel as opposed to i believe a 38lb flywheel stock
-3.64 rear end (2.93 is stock)
-and i might have had the rear seats/trunk lining/jack/spare tire out as well but I really don't remember.

This is exactly the reason I don't post what happens when I am on the street on these forums, though... people do nothing but call BS. I also had a run with a c5 from 90-150 where we were dead even. Granted, I was somewhat stripped and he had another decent sized guy in the car. I talked to him afterword and he couldn't believe it. He was cool about it, though. But I didn't come on here and post it because everyone and their brother would call BS... I honestly couldn't believe we stayed even. I thought for sure he was going to absolutely walk me.

Thats a w210 old E55

Thats a w210 old E55

thanks :confused that's exactly what i said... an 01 e55... i was never claiming i beat one of the new supercharged ones if that's what you're talking about :wtf

I have run an 01 e55 in my 95 540/6 and we were dead even going from about a 70MPH roll to about 130MPH and they have more horsepower than I do.

thanks genius.

I figured you knew..but not the rest of the kidz..

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/vb3avatar/avatar23901_1.gif
On a side note, is this guy holding a rooster in his right hand!?!

-Eff

you can say all you want but i did in-fact run an e55 and he did in-fact not pull on me. I am not saying I pulled on him we would give/regain a few feet as each of us shifted into the real meat of our powerbands but in the end we were dead even. And in reference to the 282 hp I dyno'd 254WHP 258WTQ when I was stock so I think I might be putting out a little more than 282 dependant on drive-train loss and what I have gained with my current modifications (although they aren't really substantial at this point). I have tried to run a C43 but he wouldn't do it.

and also, when i was stock my car trapped at 101.75.
when i ran the e55 i had:
-chip
-test pipes
-cai with filter element fully exposed
-13lb flywheel as opposed to i believe a 38lb flywheel stock
-3.64 rear end (2.93 is stock)
-and i might have had the rear seats/trunk lining/jack/spare tire out as well but I really don't remember.

This is exactly the reason I don't post what happens when I am on the street on these forums, though... people do nothing but call BS. I also had a run with a c5 from 90-150 where we were dead even. Granted, I was somewhat stripped and he had another decent sized guy in the car. I talked to him afterword and he couldn't believe it. He was cool about it, though. But I didn't come on here and post it because everyone and their brother would call BS... I honestly couldn't believe we stayed even. I thought for sure he was going to absolutely walk me.Nice run against the stck heavy ass E55, but you never said that your car was moddded.So how would we know. Here is a part of your first post:



I have run an 01 e55 in my 95 540/6 and we were dead even going from about a 70MPH roll to about 130MPH and they have more horsepower than I do.

C32 Kills E46 M3 Thread
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E46 M3 beats C32 Thread

C32 Kills E46 M3 Thread
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E46 M3 beats C32 Thread

yea we've gotten a lot more mileage out of this one huh?

That was the whole point...lol

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/vb3avatar/avatar23901_1.gif
On a side note, is this guy holding a rooster in his right hand!?!

-EffLOL it's a cute lil pooch! :lol

Nice run against the stck heavy ass E55, but you never said that your car was moddded.So how would we know. Here is a part of your first post:

I just don't really think of my mods as substantial... i have just done the basics getting the car ready for FI (sus, BBK, minor perf. mods)

C32 Kills E46 M3 Thread
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E46 M3 beats C32 Thread

The bottom line is...the C32 is nice, just not THAT nice...
in my opinion the order of excellence is as follows, E46 M3..then Audi S4 (both B5 and B6 cause of the quattro) then the C32 i mean it is an auto after all....oh sorry AMG speed shift hahahah

just my .02

everyone has their own list...

mine = McLaren F1 > everything... :buttrock

C32 Kills E46 M3 Thread
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E46 M3 beats C32 Thread

And Hugo just pwn3d both of them.