View Full Version : Big Thanks to Pete!


NoSoup4U
01-02-2005, 07:09 PM
Today, him and I worked on my TJ. In under 1.5 hours, we managed to do a tune-up: distributor cap and rotor, wires, and also the plugs. First cylinder was sort of fouled; but, the rest of the plugs looked okay. Then we decided to replace my TB with the upgraded one I got.

I purchased a 62 mm TB and TB spacer. It came with extensions for the TB accelerator linkage; but, it would not fit. Kind of weird. Disconnected the battery -- We ended up putting on the TB and TB spacer. Then realized that the sensors were not the correct ones. We had to remove the TB again and take off the sensors and then put on the sensors from the old TB. Then, put back everything.

Then decided to see how good the ARB air compressor works -- works pretty damn fast, about 2 psi increase for about 6 seconds. So, pumped up the tires. Turned on the car -- no CEL's. Started her up ... and she ran fine.

Drove home and it was pretty good. I highly recommend this upgrade for you TJ guys. Surprisingly, throttle response is much better; plus, I can really tell it's made a difference in power. Before, on inclines, I would need to downshift, now there is no need. Seems like I have more tq and hp all across the band. I feel that I have picked up 10-15 rwhp. That's what it is estimated to bring. The TB is bored out to 62 mm, so a bit larger than even the 4.0L TB (58 mm??). The TB spacer works well. It was a complete kit with extended 60mm bolts.

All in all, pretty good modification for less than $240 (I could get $80.00 or so back if I return my TB -- I think I am going to keep it just in case). The sensors are not correct though. Hopefully, the guy will take them back or send me the correct ones. Now, my car feels like an I6, honestly ... it really is that noticeable to me. I am now wondering if the AIRAID intake would be a good modification as well. I may also try to lighten up the car a bit and take out the rear seat.

If you do this, save some time, we spent about 20 minutes trying to figure out what sizes we need. You need 1/2" to remove the battery. You need 8 mm to take off the bolts from the intake bellow and intake cover. You need 25 torx to take off the sensors from the TB. I believe you need a 10 mm to take off the two bolts holding the intake cover. You also need the extension for the spark plugs. We did not have the torque specs -- but, hand tightened everything and gave it 1/2 turn with the socket ...

Doing it again, we could do it under 1 hour now pretty easily. Next time, need to do some body work and painting to it. Probably next major project Pete, Eric (hey, he volunteered you :D), is to do complete flush of radiator, transmission, front/rear diffs, and transfer case. We'll also be installing my new clutch, master and slave cylinder :help

I can't find my book though ... I KNOW I had a chilton's for this car ... damn! :(

p.s. -- Eric, if possible, could I please borrow your dremel sometime, next time you work on your BMW :eek: :)

jterp
01-02-2005, 07:15 PM
is your jeep a 4 cylinder?

If you're looking for an intake, check out the airtube from www.rustysoffroad.com -- it's cheap and works very well.

NoSoup4U
01-02-2005, 07:46 PM
Thanks Justin. I'll probably pick that up as well. Much cheaper than AIRAID. Do you think there is any benefit of having it isolated like the AIRAID?

Also, do you think there is any performance difference b/w the 4.5x5 filter and the 6x9 filter?

Thanks again for that link.

jterp
01-02-2005, 07:57 PM
I don't know much about the AIRRAID intake -- from what I've read on the jeep boards the tube from rusty's works just as well as any of the other intake systems out there. I've had it on my jeep for a couple years now and really like it -- i thought there was some throttle response difference when i installed it -- but you know how that goes..

Is your a 4 or a 6? I also have the cat back exhaust from http://www.bankspower.com/ and I really like it. It makes the 6 sound really good.

NoSoup4U
01-02-2005, 08:05 PM
Mine's a four. Hence, I do not want to lose too much torque. 10 hp on my car makes a HUUUUGE difference compared to the 6 cylinder though. Hence, why I have been avoiding the whole exhaust system. I know it will increase HP; but, it might decrease my torque, which I need :( :)

Well, the airaid is all enclosed, or has that cold air thingy covering it. Since mine is a 4, is the filter size going to make a difference. The 6x9 sucks more air, obviously -- but, that is limited by the size of the intake tube, right?

Should I just get the 4.5x5" filter?

I mean, it's only $20 difference, so, it really makes no difference to me. If it does nothing, I'll just go for the smaller filter.

jterp
01-02-2005, 08:05 PM
Oh and I have the smaller filter -- i think it is sufficient for either of the stock motors.

jterp
01-02-2005, 08:07 PM
I think the 6x9 is overkill -- my cobra has a 6X9 filter. :D

NoSoup4U
01-02-2005, 08:10 PM
Oh ... what is their pricing for the stinger system? They do not list any prices for anything.

I have been thinking of replacing the headers since I know that is a problem prone area. Do you know how I can tell if it is going to fail? It separates at the collector in the middle bank. Mine looks fine; but, it's pretty damn rusty. When do they typically fail?

potomac
01-02-2005, 08:15 PM
Ah, so you guys were doing work today. The lack of weekend threads scared me...I thought you guys had died or something.

jterp
01-02-2005, 08:17 PM
My exhaust was right around $300 (2 years ago) -- you can't beat that price (compared to Borla's which was around $450) and IMHO the banks system sounds better. Just like the intake, I thought the jeep ran a little stronger after the install, but who knows. I did gain 1 mpg in fuel economy though. :)

I don't know anything about a common header problem... but I would assume you would be able to hear it when/if it happens. It's not like the header is going to all of a sudden explode -- it will just be a small exhaust leak at first -- so i wouldn't bother replacing it pre-emptively. I'm lazy though. :stickoutt

NoSoup4U
01-02-2005, 08:26 PM
Well, not really the header. The exhaust manifold. I believe the middle collector is the one that separates. I see rusty's has a special on the flowmaster 50 for $169.00. I know on ebay I could pick up the flowmaster 40 and mandrel bent tubing 2.5" for $99.00.

I am curious to see what rusty's package is for $225.00 -- he doesn't list anything.

That's kind of expensive though ... $300.00 for that stinger since it is not including the exhaust manifold or catalytic converters. Rusty's is half that price then.

Ricky -- we just surf at work, not during our free time :stickoutt

AlfaEric
01-02-2005, 08:31 PM
Doing it again, we could do it under 1 hour now pretty easily. Next time, need to do some body work and painting to it. Probably next major project Pete, Eric (hey, he volunteered you :D), is to do complete flush of radiator, transmission, front/rear diffs, and transfer case. We'll also be installing my new clutch, master and slave cylinder :help

I can't find my book though ... I KNOW I had a chilton's for this car ... damn! :(

p.s. -- Eric, if possible, could I please borrow your dremel sometime, next time you work on your BMW :eek: :)
James,
No problem. I don't know when the next time I'll be doing any work on my BMW though.

---Eric

jterp
01-02-2005, 08:38 PM
The exhausts from rusty's look like some great deals -- He didn't have those available at those prices when I bought mine. If your exhaust manifold rusts through you will definately hear it -- i wouldn't worry about it before that,

vjlax18
01-02-2005, 09:30 PM
Pete and TB's :biglaughb


:stickoutt

Bahnbaum
01-02-2005, 11:28 PM
Here's a pic of my weekend with the e30.....


http://alextbaum.smugmug.com/photos/13610719-L.jpg


Alex

Teuton
01-03-2005, 12:31 AM
No problem James. It was fun to work on your truck.

I'm not sure if you can use an intake as you already have the snorkel kit in your TJ. Have you thought of putting in a K&N drop in. That would help a bit.

Pete

jterp
01-03-2005, 12:42 AM
No problem James. It was fun to work on your truck.

I'm not sure if you can use an intake as you already have the snorkel kit in your TJ.


Affirmative -- unless you take the snorkel off.. Do you ever go offroad in water deep enough that you need a snorkel? :eek:

NoSoup4U
01-03-2005, 11:36 AM
Why couldn't I run at least the air tube with the snorkel? Why can't I run the K&N filter with the snorkel?

jterp
01-03-2005, 11:42 AM
I would think you could drop a flat style k&n filter into the snorkel intake system.

Airtube won't work with the snorkel though because the filter is a cone style and not enclosed in anything.

I'll take some pics of mine tonight to show you what i mean.

NoSoup4U
01-03-2005, 11:57 AM
Here's a pic of my weekend with the e30.....


http://alextbaum.smugmug.com/photos/13610719-L.jpg


Alex

Dude, Nick is GQ'd even when he works on cars :eek: :stickoutt

Is he wearing a POLO shirt?? :eek: ... but, he is not wearing any gloves :stickoutt

vjlax18
01-03-2005, 11:58 AM
:lol: I didn't say it this time. :stickoutt

Teuton
01-03-2005, 02:15 PM
Why couldn't I run at least the air tube with the snorkel? Why can't I run the K&N filter with the snorkel?


You can run a Drop in Style K&N Filter with the snorkel setup. Problem is if you remove the snorkel you have a rather sizable hole in the passenger fenderwell.

Pete

AlfaEric
01-03-2005, 02:21 PM
You can run a Drop in Style K&N Filter with the snorkel setup. Problem is if you remove the snorkel you have a rather sizable hole in the passenger fenderwell.

Pete
A little duct tape and no one will notice. :stickoutt

---Eric

bogdan
01-04-2005, 12:55 AM
A little duct tape and no one will notice. :stickoutt

---Eric

:lol

but I don't think they are looking for Alfa technology. :stickoutt

AlfaEric
01-04-2005, 01:16 AM
:lol

but I don't think they are looking for Alfa technology. :stickoutt
[Insert NOS joke response here]

I'm feeling a little lazy tonight.

:stickoutt

---Eric