Don't know if y'all have seen this but rumor is both lived....

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/japancrash.html

I highly doubt it.

This the one with the P-Car and the ferrari hitting it and becoming a giant fireball?

If so, then its been on OT before, and yes they both lived. I have the aftermath video.

Gotta love Nomex!

That is downright scary to watch

This the one with the P-Car and the ferrari hitting it and becoming a giant fireball?

If so, then its been on OT before, and yes they both lived. I have the aftermath video.

Gotta love Nomex!

Yeh, same one. Never seen it and did a search. Sorry if its a repost......I don't go into OT much.

how did the guy in the ferrari survive? aftermath video, we gotta see that

yeah post the aftermath video

Yes, post the aftermath. Unless the Ferrari driver ejected I dont see how he survived the fire, nevermind the crash.

No they both definatley survived, I saw a picture of the ferrari driver on another board, and miracusoly they both survived. You could tell by the pic though that his face must have been blown off. He looks like he has a fake nose.

The Ferrari driver just won a lawsuit against the track and the sanctioning body, I believe.

Yeah that is true^^^ He got the crap beaten out of him


http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/image/200310/29/20031029p2a00m000021000c.jpg[URL=http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/archive/200310/29/20031029p2a00m0fp019000c.html]LAwsuit article (http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/archive/200310/29/20031029p2a00m0fp019000c.html)

after seeing the video his face got lucky

If you haven't seen the aftermath you really have to, they pull him out of the car, drop him on the ground, and go tend to the burning vehicle. You see him rolling a little on the ground, still smoking, while the people go try to extinguish a car that there's nothing left of. They definately deserved to be sued, no two ways about it.

how bout instead of telling us we need to see the aftermath video someone just post it so we can. that would be great thanks.

:eek: God Damn!!! Thats insane!!!!!!

At lack of words. Just ...damn.

Didn't anyone see/hear that dude nail it before he lost control? I can understand the safety negligence. But that dude got himself into that crash.

ever flagged another race. He did a good enough job double yellow flagging, but when that fireball went off I wonder if it blew him through the booth into another county. Scarry Stuff. The visibility was certainly questionable. I'd be too scared to drive in those conditions. No one posted the aftermath yet but by the description it sure sounds like focusing the car and not the driver was the wrong thing to do. What, were they scared the car would blow up? It already had.

Hank

how bout instead of telling us we need to see the aftermath video someone just post it so we can. that would be great thanks.

Find a server and I'll upload it. Otherwise, I'll send it via AIM.. same nick as here.

here is the aftermath video
Right click save as (http://iacs5.ucsd.edu/~dning/videos/jgtc%20ferrari%20crash%20aftermath.mpeg)

here is the crash video, incase it goes down
Right click save as (http://iacs5.ucsd.edu/~dning/videos/jgtc%20ferrari%20crash.mpeg)

That gave me shivers

If you haven't seen the aftermath you really have to, they pull him out of the car, drop him on the ground, and go tend to the burning vehicle. You see him rolling a little on the ground, still smoking, while the people go try to extinguish a car that there's nothing left of. They definately deserved to be sued, no two ways about it. YO if you look at the video AGAIN ,the rescue worker was waving for more help. . By the way just keep sueing and we can forget about any tracks to play at. Just an opinion

thanks for posting the aftermath. oh and yeah if you sue for every little thing that ever went wrong on a track they would be hesitant to open them but if you almost loose your life and are mamed in the procces i think its just to sue if they were in any way at fault...that is to an extent.

Thanks for posting the aftermath vid. I'm a little torn on the sueing subject. On one hand I fully agree with gotpsi, too many lawsuits will drive insurance rates to outrageous amounts and tracks will close. On the other hand, a driver expects a certain level of fast, efficient safety assistance from the organizers in the event of an accident. 90 seconds is way too long. They should have been on the scene in 15-30 sec and had him out in no more than 45 sec.

i cant DL the aftermath vid.

On a side note: In that sort of rain, why were there guys weaving to try and clean their tires? That's kinda stupid isn't it?

On a side note: In that sort of rain, why were there guys weaving to try and clean their tires? That's kinda stupid isn't it?

You still need to heat up the tires, even in the rain.

i cant view the aftermath either :(

i dont know if you read the whole story. The driver of the f40 lost constoll when he hit debree from the wreck. He spun out Down shifted trying to regain controll by counter acting it. hit the wet grass causing the tires to spin.

The reason why he sued was because they sent the rescue crew home due to the rain. There where a few truck around but it took several minuts to get there.. The second he lost his visbility he should of slowed down

You still need to heat up the tires, even in the rain.

yeah.....sure..... heat up treaded rain tires in a downpour....:rolleyes

yeah.....sure..... heat up treaded rain tires in a downpour....:rolleyes

Yeah...sure... Stop now before you make a fool of yourself getting into an argument about something which you obviously know very little about. :nono

I just watched a replay of the Australian V8 Supercars running in a torrential downpour. Awesome race by the way. Anyhow during the pit stops the tires had steam just pouring off of them. I'd say they were warm. And to Bryan's point, they were weaving during the pace and caution laps. It doesn't take much to get some temp in those tall, soft tread blocks; exactly why they destroy themselves when the standing water goes away.

-Sean

i would of sued too if i was the ferrari driver..

right when the car stopped there was no safety workers to be found.. he was in the car for 90seconds burning..

Holy shit. In the first few seconds I thought the first crash was all. Thought you were joking asking if they lived. But god damn, that was a huge fireball. You see one of the drives climb out. The red car was %100 in flames. That is craazy.

That was a bit scary. I think that was an e36 the porsche hit initially.

I always spend the first few miles of my commute heating up my tires by weaving in and out of traffic - even in the rain.

The heat is caused by the constant expansion and contraction of the tire as the contact patch is continually renewed as the tire rotates. Works just as well in the rain.

At least that's what I tell the cops.

The sound effects in that video are nice, but fake. Makes me wonder if the fire wasn't also "augmented". I haven't seen a fireball like that from a racing car in YEARS.

CW

The sound effects in that video are nice, but fake. Makes me wonder if the fire wasn't also "augmented". I haven't seen a fireball like that from a racing car in YEARS.

CW

Jr's fireball @ Sonoma was pretty huge in person

That makes me cringe to even watch! And what makes it even worse was the music in the end :(

I can't believe that the ferrari driver survived! Its pretty gay that he sued though! Thats the risk you take when racing! Thats amazing, you can tell that the porsche driver is in pain!

hhahahah i was like that's not too bad?!
then the HUGE fireball came. dayum/

Damn I want that aftermath video. Can anyone repost it? (the 3 month old link is dead).

after seeing the video his face got lucky
It was probably ugly before the incident :evil2 J/K , that fake nose, I am sorry to say is just obvious! At least he survived, thats all that matters I guess. that video is still horrific to watch!

pretty scary, i want to see the aftermath video also

I cannot believe anyone survived this crash. I'm surprised the flaggers weren't severely injured also. I'm also very surprised they continued racing in that weather, but I'm not saying that they shouldn't be.

That was major.

that is crazy! car looks like a F360GT rather than an f40, though?

Thats crazy, what the hell was he thinking??????

they have horrible track safety support in japan. that vid just made me think even less of the safety standards in other countries. last year at sazuka a motogp rider died when he hit the hay bails on the straight after the spoon curves, i believe he was doing 190. anyway the safety stewards handled him w/ no care at all and paid more attention to the bike on the track. the rider died a couple days later of head trauma.

and that' s why i'll stick to auto-x thank you

Yeah, I think the E36 was a flag car of some sort and he slowed down and the Porsche slammed into the back of him. With the debree o the road, the ferrari swerved, lost control, down shifted to try and gain controll agai btu slammed into the porsche. Scary stuff.

anyone know for sure whos gas tank exploded the ferrari or the porsche?

to me it llooks like the ferraris blew up cause of the fire inside of his car.

but does anyone know for sure?

the first couple posts have some info. doens't seem like any of the vids working
http://bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273204&highlight=japan+crash