View Full Version : M3/4 vs. Hyabusa
buckwilly 11-13-2004, 11:48 AM M3 is basically stock. Hyabusa was stock. I did some overtime at work this morning and was heading home for the day. He was tracking me down to race from the get-go, I guess he was hungry for some German engineering.
I got my ass romped so bad. He actually did a wheely in 2nd gear while gaining about 3 car lengths on me.
We raced from a stop 3 times. 1st time I think he started in second and had about 2 car lengths (5 bike lenghts LOL) on me by 70 MPH. 2nd time he raced me staight up to 60 MPH, got me by 3 car lenths then. 3rd race he took me in the wheely once he hit second. I couldn't even keep up with his one wheel on the ground. :buttrock
I love it. Bikes kick ass. I figured he would take me by at least what he took me by in every race, but I was impressed with the one wheel in second. Just makes me realize that are cars are fast but there is a hell of a lot faster out there. I really enjoy watching those things go. He gave me a friendly wave and we went our seperate ways.
mihalis 11-13-2004, 03:00 PM Nice death...what type of bike is a Hyabusa? Never heard of this type before :confused
tonio 11-13-2004, 03:42 PM I believe it's made by suzuki. That's one fast bike. I think it's 1100cc. Good death though.
blacksrt4 11-13-2004, 03:57 PM hyabusa is 1300 ccs I believe....about 200 hp 200 mph right out of the box....
Alpine3.23 11-13-2004, 04:02 PM Dude there is no way you could have stayed that close to the bike
Those things move man!
Fastest street bike ever!
Ohtwo 11-13-2004, 04:04 PM It around 1300cc's. It was the first production bike to run into the 9's. (9.9 sec) First gear = 85mph.
Some people make turbo hayabusas. I saw a video of one doing a wheelie from a dead stop, and he held it up until around 200. Something like 400hp. Impressive thing was that he held the wheelie even, it didnt dip down, and he chose to bring it down.
smhockeydefense 11-13-2004, 04:10 PM Those bikes are death on wheels....I LIKE it!
slcook54 11-13-2004, 04:36 PM Yup, Susuki Hayabusa is a 1300cc bike, no way he was even going full throttle, I have a video of a stock busa running with a 900hp Dodge Viper and keeping up with no problems, you should see what happens to the viper when he runs the modded Busas. :eek:
Rav3Cultre 11-13-2004, 05:06 PM That Viper was more impressive than the Busa's IMO. The Viper beat out a stock Busa, do you know how impossible that sounds? That thing was a monster! :buttrock
buckwilly 11-13-2004, 05:09 PM I never said he was at full throttle, if I even know what that was. Alls I know was that he was playing around. I mean he even told me he started in 2nd gear in the 1st race once we got to the next light. I just loved watching him pull 2-3 car lengths while doing a wheely...that was great. Now, if he was at full throttle I most likely would of rolled over his body after he fell off, there is no way any bike could be full throttle and wheely for a full gear without tipping. I have seen vids of Turbo Hyabusas so I know exactly what NA or turbo could do to my car, or any car for that matter. He wanted to race, it was 9:30am this morning, no one on the road, I live in south Charlotte, never a cop around...hell yeah. We passed by the high school x-counry team out for their early morning run...lets just say we gave them quite the site. Quarter mile for him is sub 10 secs at least, mine is 13.8 with decent tires, current tires are Sumitomo HTR+ (76 bucks each at tire rack/all season for the winter), so I quesstimate I was running mid 14's every run.
He came after me, I just went along for the ride. Definitely quite the machine.
sexy325 11-13-2004, 07:15 PM Yup, Susuki Hayabusa is a 1300cc bike, no way he was even going full throttle, I have a video of a stock busa running with a 900hp Dodge Viper and keeping up with no problems, you should see what happens to the viper when he runs the modded Busas. :eek:
there is no... way... you... can.... out.... run... busas...... period....
Rav3Cultre 11-13-2004, 10:54 PM there is no... way... you... can.... out.... run... busas...... period....
That alcahol-driven supercharged Viper did. :D
Parked325is 11-14-2004, 12:14 AM there are two different models of the busa. the suzuki busa 1000 = 1000cc and the suzuki 1300 = 1300cc. i dont know the hp ratings.
Effervescent 11-14-2004, 01:28 PM I had a 1100 Ninja for 10 years (10.2 @130mph, with the right rider on it) and I assure you he wasn't going all out.
Fun death though, huh?
-Eff
coolcarlski 11-14-2004, 01:31 PM there are two different models of the busa. the suzuki busa 1000 = 1000cc and the suzuki 1300 = 1300cc. i dont know the hp ratings.All Hayabusa's are(gsxr) 1300cc's then there is the the gsxr 1000 which is basically a 1000cc motor in a 750cc chassis,two totally different bikes. There is a video with a stck hyabusa getting his ass handed to him by a NOS 1000 hp twin turbo Supra on the expressway.The video can be down loaded from kazaa. Stock hyabusa has 160 hp.Fastest Hyabusa was the 1st one that ever came out 1999. PS The word hyabusa in Japanese means Falcon.Thats why the graphic on the bike from 2000and up depicts a falcon and the Japanese lettering actually says hayabusa. As far as the posters M3 running as well as he did with the busa,the guy was definitely taking it very very easy on him so dont be mislead.I think he knows that bike could really hand him his shoes.I would nt even waste my time racing one off the line with my 400whp Talon. :D LOL.
buckwilly 11-14-2004, 01:33 PM Best death ever. I would rather be behind him anyhow. I hope we meet up again. :buttrock
riz75 11-14-2004, 02:22 PM Fastest Hyabusa was the 1st one that ever came out 1999
the only thing that changed from 1999 to now is they retarded the timing so the bike wouldn't go past 185mph (+ or - a couple of mph)...easy to fix though :evil2
EuroBeast 11-14-2004, 02:57 PM There's a swedish guy who drives a turbo busa and many other really fast bikes... pulls wheelies at 320km/h, dunno what that translates to in mph but it is insanely fast. 470rwhp I think.
You can google "ghostrider" with some bike words and see for yourself :buttrock He's an idiot tho, will kill someone someday.
CLee36 11-14-2004, 03:39 PM there is no... way... you... can.... out.... run... busas...... period....
honda rc211v. nothing can touch that bike period. v5, light as hell, well over 220 some odd horsepower from a detuned motor that can make well over 300 and its bullit proof. enough said.
BMW#1Enthusiast 11-14-2004, 08:03 PM dude the rc211v is a motogp bike, anyways the only stock car that can keep up with a busa, or other liter bikes, is the Mclaren F1
awahl63 11-14-2004, 08:06 PM Learn to shift noob you shoulda killed him...
CLee36 11-14-2004, 09:08 PM dude the rc211v is a motogp bike, anyways the only stock car that can keep up with a busa, or other liter bikes, is the Mclaren F1
yeah its a moto gp bike, but you cant deny the fact that its the fastest! :D
CLee36 11-14-2004, 09:10 PM quater mile no stock car cant touch a caterham super 7. the fastest one they build demolishes the mclaren f1 in the 0-100-0 by over a second. and it run 10's in the 1/4 mile.
Effervescent 11-14-2004, 09:32 PM "Fastest Hyabusa was the 1st one that ever came out 1999. "
1998 you mean.
-Eff
buckwilly 11-14-2004, 10:00 PM Learn to shift noob you shoulda killed him...
My bad. Hey, I chirped 1st, 2nd, and 3rd...time for stage 12 weight reduction and NOS yo. :stickoutt
Noob??? Huh?
Heckler&Koch 11-14-2004, 10:39 PM McClaren F1 cannot run with a Busa in the quarter. Top speed for a turbo Busa, BTW, is 252 mph, at the end of a one mile run from a dead stop.
9.8 second quarter, stock.
darkness95m3 11-14-2004, 11:04 PM Stick to BMW's Guys LOL!
sexy325 11-14-2004, 11:27 PM McClaren F1 cannot run with a Busa in the quarter. Top speed for a turbo Busa, BTW, is 252 mph, at the end of a one mile run from a dead stop.
9.8 second quarter, stock.
someone should definitely try using the NOS on Busa... i Dare you... ;)
coolcarlski 11-14-2004, 11:34 PM "Fastest Hyabusa was the 1st one that ever came out 1999. "
1998 you mean.
-EffNope 1999! My brother bought it when it first came out!!!!Black and charcoal grey !There is no 98 Busa! Go check it out!I guarantee you!
coolcarlski 11-14-2004, 11:35 PM someone should definitely try using the NOS on Busa... i Dare you... ;)I know guys that do!!!
BimmerBoyZ3 11-15-2004, 01:18 AM WHAT! Your car is a beast! Ive seen it! ITS AN M3! SHOULDA KILLED IT! :rolleyes
Props for screwing with the guy. Always nice to watch a rider with some skill catwalk away. Even better to pull on the rider catwalking. ;)
98estroilm3 11-15-2004, 03:09 AM That Viper was more impressive than the Busa's IMO. The Viper beat out a stock Busa, do you know how impossible that sounds? That thing was a monster! :buttrock
Yeah he even tied a few of the bolton busas, but he got his ass romped HARD by the turbo ones. Either way i'd be taking a nice runny crap in my pants if i was in/on either one of those vehicles
buckwilly 11-15-2004, 09:34 AM Yesterday I was eating at Bojangles and two bikes flew past the resturant on Woodlawn right were it intersects with I-77. I could only guess they were at or around/over 100 MPH in a 35 MPH zone in busy traffic. I got goosebumps just hearing them scream by. I wonder if it was "Take you bike out and reap havoc on society" day. If it was not, I would like to see it become a national holiday so we can prepare. :devillook
Of course in a safe and controlled environment.
shmoo 11-15-2004, 09:50 AM I know they have turbo for those Hayabusa bikes!
:eek:
LoveLEE143 11-15-2004, 01:08 PM In response to Buckwilly's comment "there is no way any bike could be full throttle and wheely for a full gear without tipping", this is not true. My uncle owns a Hyabusa along with other bikes. Most of his bikes are modified; I am not sure about the Busa as I have not talked to him in a couple of months. But in the summer of 2003 I watched him with my own eyes do it several times down his street. His street was just freshly paved the week before when he was doing this, and the street was blocked off to traffic. The street is a long probably half mile flat straight away. He and some of his riding buddies were playing around before their Saturday afternoon ride in Richmond, Virginia. He rode it on one wheel full throttle from a standing start to over 100mph. He is also a very big guy 6'5" about 275pds of pure muscle, he used to play football. I am sure his size helps allot. The same day I also saw a Busa go up a tree literally. One of his friends just got a Busa and wanted to play with the "BIG BOYS" lost control. He fell off around 100mph the bike hit a tree ran right up the tree straight into the air about 15 feet. The bike came to a crashing halt to the pavement. He was not hurt just his pride and his wallet. There were people filming that day I will call and ask to see if I can get the video and post it as proof that it can be done.
BMW#1Enthusiast 11-15-2004, 01:29 PM the Mclaren F1 runs high 9's, a stock busa only runs 10's, I never said a Mclaren F1 could beat a moded busa.
BimmerMan20 11-15-2004, 02:29 PM Busas are sick sick bikes. I wanted to get one this summer but I think my riding days are done.
fastdreams 11-15-2004, 09:16 PM There's a swedish guy who drives a turbo busa and many other really fast bikes... pulls wheelies at 320km/h, dunno what that translates to in mph but it is insanely fast. 470rwhp I think.
You can google "ghostrider" with some bike words and see for yourself :buttrock He's an idiot tho, will kill someone someday.
divide kmh by 1.6 to get mph. At least that's my quick way...it may be more exact than that...
anyway 320kmh = 200mph
gateguardian 11-15-2004, 09:29 PM For ghostrider- doesn't he have a site?
the Mclaren F1 runs high 9's, a stock busa only runs 10's, I never said a Mclaren F1 could beat a moded busa.
Stock Busa is 9,8-9,9 secs 1/4 mile
riz75 11-15-2004, 11:20 PM For ghostrider- doesn't he have a site?
Stock Busa is 9,8-9,9 secs 1/4 mile
correct. also, with a little suspension drop and -1f or +3r...a 9.5 quarter is a given (as long as the rider is capable)
buckwilly 11-16-2004, 12:34 AM [QUOTE=LoveLEE143]In response to Buckwilly's comment "there is no way any bike could be full throttle and wheely for a full gear without tipping", this is not true. My uncle owns a Hyabusa along with other bikes. [QUOTE]
Ok, this comment was based off of my knowledge of physics and riding dirt bikes when I was young. I don't really know jack shit about bikes except that this guy was screwing around. I still think anyone who does a wheely at full throttle is basically retarded, especially on an open rode with cars behind them. This dude was no idiot. Just a normal guy having fun with his bike putting on a show for me. Which I enjoyed.
NickM3 11-16-2004, 02:37 AM the Mclaren F1 runs high 9's, a stock busa only runs 10's, I never said a Mclaren F1 could beat a moded busa.
I think you got that reversed. I've never heard of a McLaren ever running 9s. Only figure i've seen published is 11.1 @ 138 mph.
dinan325i 11-16-2004, 03:13 AM I think you got that reversed. I've never heard of a McLaren ever running 9s. Only figure i've seen published is 11.1 @ 138 mph.
So 11.1 at 138. What does a stock busa trap in the quarter again???
slcook54 11-16-2004, 03:24 AM You sure about that? A 138 trap should be in the 10's for sure. A 128-130mph trap is more like an 11.1 second time.
LoveLEE143 11-16-2004, 11:26 AM Buckwilly, I agree that it is very stupid to do it on an open road. I would also agree that it is dumb to do it in the first place my uncle included. Especially after seeing a bike goes straight up a tree at about 100mph. I to like to see bikes putting on a good show. I stay in Tallahassee for school and see many many many bikes. I have even instigated them with the 300E sloth mobile. I enjoy a good show. I can guarantee that when I get my bike in the next two months I will not being doing anything stupid like that. The only reason I don't have one yet is that I can not ride a 1000, as I am on 6 feet and weigh only 150. My uncle was going to give me one of his but I could barely even lift the bike.
NickM3 11-16-2004, 05:33 PM You sure about that? A 138 trap should be in the 10's for sure. A 128-130mph trap is more like an 11.1 second time.
I'm not sure which mag did the test. I'm thinking C&D, i bet they took it easy on the launch so they wouldn't have to pay up for clutch damage on a $1million+ car :)
SupaBimma 11-16-2004, 08:02 PM They have 1600CC stroker kits with Twin turbo kits. Some have dynoed as high as 499HP, theres a video of one online of doing 640HP but it blew up on the engine dyno, its amazing how much power you can get out of those bad boys.
buckwilly 11-16-2004, 10:39 PM Enough talk...if you all are gonna keep my thread going. I WANT SOME VIDS!!!
VIDS VIDS VIDS!!!
:eyecrazy
jtl85 11-17-2004, 12:54 AM ouch
mmmbeefy42 11-17-2004, 01:47 AM Are busa's turbo'd stock? I thought they were...Someone sent me a video a while ago of one hitting 200mph in under 10 seconds. It was absolutly insane.
Crotch rockets are the finest example of modern natural selection. Though they're still cool.
slcook54 11-17-2004, 01:54 AM No, not stock. 1300cc is a big bike.
EEEEeeee36 11-17-2004, 02:06 AM "Fastest Hyabusa was the 1st one that ever came out 1999. "
1998 you mean.
-Eff
No, actually 1999... it was leaked in 1998, it didn't roll out until April 1999 in Spain.
EEEEeeee36 11-17-2004, 02:08 AM Are busa's turbo'd stock? I thought they were...Someone sent me a video a while ago of one hitting 200mph in under 10 seconds. It was absolutly insane.
Crotch rockets are the finest example of modern natural selection. Though they're still cool.
No they are not turbo, but if you take a stock bike that only weighs 480lbs and add a 180lb rider, 10sec is not hard to reach at 150whp...in fact if the rider is any good he should be able to get into the 9's.
EEEEeeee36 11-17-2004, 02:10 AM It around 1300cc's. It was the first production bike to run into the 9's. (9.9 sec) First gear = 85mph.
Some people make turbo hayabusas. I saw a video of one doing a wheelie from a dead stop, and he held it up until around 200. Something like 400hp. Impressive thing was that he held the wheelie even, it didnt dip down, and he chose to bring it down.
400hp? I don't think so.... the only kit out there is made by garrett. The stock Hyabusa makes 150whp.. with the Garrett kit at 9psi it hits 260whp - good enough for easy 7's in the quartermile, if you can keep the wheel down.
EEEEeeee36 11-17-2004, 02:11 AM There's a swedish guy who drives a turbo busa and many other really fast bikes... pulls wheelies at 320km/h, dunno what that translates to in mph but it is insanely fast. 470rwhp I think.
You can google "ghostrider" with some bike words and see for yourself :buttrock He's an idiot tho, will kill someone someday.
Maybe 270rwhp... so he runs a 4sec quartermile then? :conf Think about what you said... there's no way a 1.3ltr engine even with a big-ass turbo can generate 470whp... if you had a turbo big enough you'd never be able to spool it.
EDIT: I stand corrected - if you were insane enough to use a bi-turbo system you could reach over 400hp at over 15,000rpm - there's only a handful of these bikes in the world though.
EEEEeeee36 11-17-2004, 02:24 AM Hayabusa means "Strong and Fast", it does not mean falcon. The inspiration for the name of the bike came from the designer who was walking on a beach or a field or something and saw a falcon do a dive - falcons are the fastest birds in the world when they dive, upwards of 200mph dives.
SupaBimma 11-17-2004, 03:22 AM they are not turbo stock, all NA.
Effervescent 11-17-2004, 03:28 AM @ Busas and turbos. None have ever come stock with a turbo.
@ 1998 Busas, the other guy is right. WAH!
-Eff
EEEEeeee36 11-17-2004, 04:16 AM @ Busas and turbos. None have ever come stock with a turbo.
@ 1998 Busas, the other guy is right. WAH!
-Eff
;)
coolcarlski 11-17-2004, 07:45 AM You sure about that? A 138 trap should be in the 10's for sure. A 128-130mph trap is more like an 11.1 second time.
Yea but not 9 seconds! 145 and up for 9secs.
coolcarlski 11-17-2004, 07:47 AM [QUOTE=LoveLEE143]In response to Buckwilly's comment "there is no way any bike could be full throttle and wheely for a full gear without tipping", this is not true. My uncle owns a Hyabusa along with other bikes. [QUOTE]
Ok, this comment was based off of my knowledge of physics and riding dirt bikes when I was young. I don't really know jack shit about bikes except that this guy was screwing around. I still think anyone who does a wheely at full throttle is basically retarded, especially on an open rode with cars behind them. This dude was no idiot. Just a normal guy having fun with his bike putting on a show for me. Which I enjoyed.
I've seen some wheelie in the 1/4 mile at the race track!
EEEEeeee36 11-17-2004, 08:53 AM I've seen some wheelie in the 1/4 mile at the race track!
Exactly. A sport bike HAS to wheelie in a 1/4 drag - that's why they have wheelie bars on the back!
darkness95m3 11-17-2004, 09:46 AM Maybe 270rwhp... so he runs a 4sec quartermile then? :conf Think about what you said... there's no way a 1.3ltr engine even with a big-ass turbo can generate 470whp... if you had a turbo big enough you'd never be able to spool it.
EDIT: I stand corrected - if you were insane enough to use a bi-turbo system you could reach over 400hp at over 15,000rpm - there's only a handful of these bikes in the world though.
Turbocharged Busas were reaching 519RWH in Daytona this year.
Fastest 1/4 run in a Busa was 9.42 stock with the supensioned tied down.
Top speed run for a stock busa was 194Mph with perfect conditions in 1999, the later Busas are limited to 184Mph.
Fastest run in a 1/4 mile by a 600 was done in 1998 or 1999 Kawasaki Ninja ZX6. Best run was 9.98 with a pure stock bike. Mind you after 3 runs there was no clutch left.
The new 2004 Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki 1Ltr stock bikes are all faster then the Busa, they have more Hp and weigh only 375 pounds.
The problem with bikes today is their rear tire; the Kawasaki ZX10R will up to 100Mph spin it's rear tire.
LoveLEE143 11-17-2004, 11:13 AM Go to www.racingflix.com if you want to see videos of a Turbo Busa, and the top speed run. They have other videos there, I have never watched them though. I was just bored at work :help and decided to look for the videos you guys wanted. I am also trying to track down the full throtle wheelie video of my uncle.
EEEEeeee36 11-17-2004, 03:57 PM Turbocharged Busas were reaching 519RWH in Daytona this year.
Fastest 1/4 run in a Busa was 9.42 stock with the supensioned tied down.
Top speed run for a stock busa was 194Mph with perfect conditions in 1999, the later Busas are limited to 184Mph.
Fastest run in a 1/4 mile by a 600 was done in 1998 or 1999 Kawasaki Ninja ZX6. Best run was 9.98 with a pure stock bike. Mind you after 3 runs there was no clutch left.
The new 2004 Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki 1Ltr stock bikes are all faster then the Busa, they have more Hp and weigh only 375 pounds.
The problem with bikes today is their rear tire; the Kawasaki ZX10R will up to 100Mph spin it's rear tire.
That's awesome! Thanks for the info. You have a lot of nice 'toys'. :D ;) Between my Dad and I we have six motorcycles, but I only ride recreationally - the weather where I live is too drab from September to March to ride and enjoy it.
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