View Full Version : Eurospeed OBDI and OBDII software group buy *Now Closed*
John V 11-12-2004, 08:30 AM As per Ron's (themadhatter's) suggestion I talked to the Eurospeed guys. They are interested in hosting the group buy. This is for software ONLY. Here is what they said:
John,
Get some rough numbers for me at far as number of people interested.
I'll also need some info from them:
Year
Model
Mods
Manual/Auto
Octane available locally
I could do something like 10% off w/ free shipping for 5+ people, or 15%
off with free shipping for 10+ people.
Basic pricing:
OBD1 chips, standard programming - $275
OBD1 hfm, hfm/injectors/etc - $400
OBD2
E36 328/M3 $400
E46 323/325/328/330 (pre-03/03) $500
E46 M3 i have to ask
Custom FI stuff available too for some applications
Please get me some more info, but I wouldn't mind hosting this GB for you.
Regards,
Alex Chan
Eurospeed Performance
I'm going to try to work with them and see if they'll drop that HFM chip price - that's well above what turner charges for an off the shelf HFM chip.
Still, if you're interested (of course, pricing dependent), please list the following info INCLUDING your DME number if you have a '95 M3 (I'll start):
Year: late 1995 (413 ECU)
Model: M3
Mods: 3.5" HFM+Intake, 21.5lb injectors
Manual/Auto: Manual
Octane available locally: 93
Thanks, let's hope this one gets off the ground since we have an interested company now.
John V
NoSoup4U 11-12-2004, 08:38 AM John -
Can they do an E46 M3, or only an E36 M3? Would they be willing to discount the price of a race shark injector by Jim Conforti??
Or, are they going to custom program the software??
mjvela 11-12-2004, 03:56 PM I'm interested
Year: late 1997
Model: M3
Mods: 3.5" HFM+Intake, m50 intake
Manual/Auto: automatic
Octane available locally: 93
97 MPWR 11-13-2004, 01:16 AM Just to let you guys know...I had my 97 M3 ECU updated by Eurospeed in one of their previous GB's. Alex Chan is a great guy to deal with and the software update is awesome!!
ClubSport332ti 11-13-2004, 02:19 AM Are they doing the OBD 1 3.2 chips? Not the 3.0 and just use with a 3.2 motor, but the actual OBD 1 3.2 mod?
zoran 11-13-2004, 11:54 AM Year: 1999
Model: M Coupe
Mods: Dinan CAI (3.5" HFM/M50 manifold to be installed)
Manual/Auto: manual
Octane available locally: 93
uuc328 11-15-2004, 10:15 PM Year: late 1997
Model: 328
Mods: 3.5" Intake, 540 HFM, M50 manifold, 21.5lb injectors, exhaust
Manual/Auto: Manual
Octane available locally: 93
torquey 11-16-2004, 12:41 AM Year: 1998
Model: 328i
Mods: Intake, future M50 Manifold, Exhaust
Tranny: Manual
Octane: '93
NeverLeaned 11-16-2004, 01:00 AM Forgive the noobness, but is this the shark style (I have OBDII) or do you send them your ECU? And do they do the free reprogramming when you change mods?
If they re-program then Im in, otherwise I'll have to wait for spring.
Year: 1996 *1/96 Production date
Model: 328is
Mods: Intake, Pulleys, fan delete (will need reprogram for planned spring mods ----> M50 manifold, exhaust, possible cam upgrade)
Manual/Auto: manual
Octane available locally: 93
torquey 11-16-2004, 01:29 AM Forgive the noobness, but is this the shark style (I have OBDII) or do you send them your ECU? And do they do the free reprogramming when you change mods?
If they re-program then Im in, otherwise I'll have to wait for spring.
You'll HAVE to send in your ECU to Eurospeed... and AFAIK, they should be able to reprogram it when u make future mods. In that case u may want to consider getting the ECU "socketed" for an extra charge, so you can keep driving the car until the new chip arrives.. and you just plug it in :)
NeverLeaned 11-16-2004, 02:30 AM Cool. TY for the quick reply. It doesn't really matter which way the do it to me :)
As soon as the other question is answered (whether they will reprogram or not) Im in.
BTW... it should only be reprogrammed once, I plan on doing the manifold & exhaust at the same time to wrap up my mods. *boy those cams are tempting though :help
vjlax18 11-16-2004, 09:31 AM They can socket your ECU so that you can swap chips out like OBD-I guys.
ClubSport332ti 11-16-2004, 10:53 AM Are they doing the OBD 1 3.2 chips? Not the 3.0 and just use with a 3.2 motor, but the actual OBD 1 3.2 mod?
^
John V 11-16-2004, 10:58 AM ^
I'm sure they can do any specific programming you need.
ClubSport332ti 11-16-2004, 11:02 AM I'm sure they can do any specific programming you need.
Only if they have the program for it, most only program for the 3.0 and then tell us to use the 3.0 chip in our 3.2 OBD I cars
snk328is 11-16-2004, 12:42 PM Year: 1995
Model: 325is
Mods: Intake, Exhaust
Tranny: Manual
Octane: 93
97 MPWR 11-16-2004, 01:40 PM Alex,
Do you remember if my ECU was socketed while it was there?
zoran 11-16-2004, 04:32 PM So, how many people we have?
Estoril4dr 11-16-2004, 04:38 PM I guess I would be in if it came out to under $400.
1997 M3
Mods: Intake, Exhaust, M50 manifold, LTW flywheel
Tranny: Manual
Octane: 91
Poke2120 11-16-2004, 05:09 PM Nevermind... I didn't read your whole post John. My question was about their $400 vs Turners $250 for the 95 M3 with HFM upgrade, but looks like you are already on top of that :)
Also, since Eurospeed is asking for what mods we have (other than HFM), will each chip be programmed specially for these mods, even OBD1 chips? If so, cool!
Poke
Poke2120 11-16-2004, 05:13 PM Year: late 1997
Model: 328
Mods: 3.5" Intake, 540 HFM, M50 manifold, 21.5lb injectors, exhaust
Manual/Auto: Manual
Octane available locally: 93
540 HFM on a 328? Huh? I hope you haven't already purchased this mod, since its not going to work on your car. From all my dealings with 540 HFMs, they only work on the S50 and S52 engines, not M50s or M52s... If you were considering doing this mod, I beg you to reconsider, because it won't do anything at all for your smaller engine.
Poke
uuc328 11-16-2004, 06:59 PM 540 HFM on a 328? Huh? I hope you haven't already purchased this mod, since its not going to work on your car. From all my dealings with 540 HFMs, they only work on the S50 and S52 engines, not M50s or M52s... If you were considering doing this mod, I beg you to reconsider, because it won't do anything at all for your smaller engine.
Poke
Nah, I havent bought it yet. have you actually installed a 3.5 HFM on a M52 with the mods listed and provided the appropriate SW for everything?
Estoril4dr 11-16-2004, 07:03 PM I doubt this is gonna go through. The last group buy took over a month to get enough people. But if it does happen, I'm in for sure! My gear rattle with my flywheel is driving me crazy!
Poke2120 11-16-2004, 07:16 PM Nah, I havent bought it yet. have you actually installed a 3.5 HFM on a M52 with the mods listed and provided the appropriate SW for everything?
No I have not actually installed a 540 HFM on an M52, for the reason that nobody makes software for it in the first place. That is one huge reason that the mod can't be done, because the software companies (ie - AA and JC) all realized this mod can't be done to an M52, long before we did.
Poke
uuc328 11-16-2004, 07:39 PM No I have not actually installed a 540 HFM on an M52, for the reason that nobody makes software for it in the first place. That is one huge reason that the mod can't be done, because the software companies (ie - AA and JC) all realized this mod can't be done to an M52, long before we did.
Poke
OK, if you are correct and no tuning is avaliable... i see your point.
torquey 11-16-2004, 07:46 PM I doubt this is gonna go through. The last group buy took over a month to get enough people.
Well.. looks like 8 people have expressed their interest already in just four days! I would say that's pretty good, and at least qualifies us for the 10% off + free shipping. Now if we could only get couple of more to hit that 15% :D ...
torquey 11-17-2004, 09:43 PM ^^Bump^^
'cmon guys, there's gotta be some more people who want AA software. The pricing after discount will almost be the same as the Shark Injector.. not to mention the agreesive and "mod specific" nature of their programs.
NeverLeaned 11-17-2004, 10:12 PM Even the 10% off is a good deal........ $360 for custom programming vs. $349 for the shark.
2 more and we're money!
olsen185 11-18-2004, 01:52 AM I'm down if the price is right!!
Year: 1996
Model: 328i
Mods: Cosmos 3.5" Intake, URI crank pulley, fan delete, M50 manifold, UUC system U exhaust
Manual/Auto: manual
Octane available locally: 93
John V 11-18-2004, 11:15 AM Nevermind... I didn't read your whole post John. My question was about their $400 vs Turners $250 for the 95 M3 with HFM upgrade, but looks like you are already on top of that :)
Also, since Eurospeed is asking for what mods we have (other than HFM), will each chip be programmed specially for these mods, even OBD1 chips? If so, cool!
Poke
The problem with TMS is they cannot and will not program an OBD-I chip for an HFM and 21lb injectors. It's either 17.5lb or 24lb with them, neither of which I want.
Yes, we may be getting close to the 10 people we need, but keep in mind one third to one half of these people will probably back out when it comes time to put money on the table. :( I'm not sending anything to Eurospeed until we're certain we have enough people.
If you guys have specific questions about tuning, I would e-mail Eurospeed and ask them directly whether they can accomodate your needs.
Thanks everyone,
John V
vjlax18 11-18-2004, 11:21 AM John, per our discussion last night, I'm most likely in on this one.
John V 11-18-2004, 11:23 AM John, per our discussion last night, I'm most likely in on this one.
Yes, and per our discussion I'm most likely not, but I have to keep it going anyway.
Now get our buddy to finish up those motors so he can price me a chip.
97Msedan 11-18-2004, 11:47 AM How much extra would the socketing cost?
I might be in on this if the price is right:
Year: 1997
Model: M3
Mods: Intake, 540 hfm, M50 manifold, pullies, exhaust, ltw flywheel
Manual tranny
93 Octane
SoloII///M, any more cheap 540 hfms?
John V 11-18-2004, 02:00 PM How much extra would the socketing cost?
I might be in on this if the price is right:
Year: 1997
Model: M3
Mods: Intake, 540 hfm, M50 manifold, pullies, exhaust, ltw flywheel
Manual tranny
93 Octane
SoloII///M, any more cheap 540 hfms?
97M, I'm out of them right now and probably won't get anymore for a while. I know Poke2120 has been selling them, and Steve Hamilton was doing a group buy for a good price. Check with those guys.
John
NY98M3 11-18-2004, 11:54 PM Question...
98 M3...
I had AA retune my OBDII software last year...Can the AA software be overwritten for my current mods? or does AA have me by the balls...
FabulosoM3 11-19-2004, 12:34 AM Year: 1998
Model: M3
Mods: Intake, Exhaust, Ltw flywheel
Manual/Auto: Manual
Octane available locally: 93
I'm in..but can someone just clear up for me what socketing would actually do for me and would they also be able to reprogram my software if i eventually got new mods in the future or do i have to pay an extra charge?
thanks
vjlax18 11-19-2004, 09:47 AM Question...
98 M3...
I had AA retune my OBDII software last year...Can the AA software be overwritten for my current mods? or does AA have me by the balls...
Eurospeed uses AA.
NeverLeaned 11-20-2004, 03:07 PM Im surprised more people aren't interested in the custom programming.... especially OBDII guys who would have to pay what we're about to pay for the generic shark injector.
Do we have enough to do this?
mjvela 11-21-2004, 08:39 AM Can someone from Eurospeed explain the socketing and how much extra that would be?
NeverLeaned 11-21-2004, 05:12 PM Don't quote me here...... but I believe socketing means they mod your ECU so you can remove the chip from it. That way whenever you want modifications done to your programming, they can send you a new chip and you just slap it in. Instead of you having to pull the whole ECU out of the car and overnighting it to them (ie: you can't use your car for a couple of days)
Im calling them tomorrow regarding some other matters, I'll ask them about the socketing and $$$$ involved.
Estoril4dr 11-21-2004, 05:35 PM I have money ready... let me know where to send payment
John V 11-21-2004, 05:46 PM I will collate the responses we've gotten here (including the question about OBD-I 3.2 programming) to Eurospeed and see what they are willing to offer.
Again I'll reiterate that people ALWAYS back out when it's time to put money down, so keep that in mind.
JV
NeverLeaned 11-21-2004, 06:11 PM I will collate the responses we've gotten here (including the question about OBD-I 3.2 programming) to Eurospeed and see what they are willing to offer.
Again I'll reiterate that people ALWAYS back out when it's time to put money down, so keep that in mind.
JV
Ok, if you want to keep it all in one place then, I need to know if they are willing to reprogram once I finish my mods in the spring.... and of course if they are gonna charge for the reprogram.
I believe AA does 2 reprograms for free. Unforunately its a deal breaker for me if they are gonna charge me to reprogram in march :(
NY98M3 11-21-2004, 06:15 PM I believe AA does 2 reprograms for free.
Yeah Right! I already spoke to Rey on that one...I had mine tuned for intake and exhaust...a few months later I wanted to add an OBDI manifold...emailed them about a possible retune, and they said they could do 10% off a retune:(
NeverLeaned 11-21-2004, 08:43 PM Spend $360 now, then another $360 in the spring for tuning :eek:
Why even bother getting it socketed then? , If the price is that high it would sounds totally unreasonable to do any software work until you know you have completed all your mods.
Chippeduk 11-21-2004, 10:41 PM I can offer the viper2 chips for all bosche ecu powered bmw`s for $150 supplied and posted.
I have maps for all regions and specs and have come top of all rolling road events for the past few years.
My email is chips@chippeduk.com
John V 11-22-2004, 02:35 PM All information forwarded to Alex at Eurospeed. Will post when I know more.
John
NeverLeaned 11-22-2004, 08:03 PM All information forwarded to Alex at Eurospeed. Will post when I know more.
John
Cool bro, Thanks for hanging with this GB deal even after it no longer serves any purpose to you.
AngelEye328i 11-22-2004, 10:12 PM We had the some software GB from Alex at Eurospeed about 6 months ago. I recommend you all go with the Socket setup. This way, if you want to upgrade (reprogram) your ecu, you don't have to pulled and send your ecu to them. All they need from you, are your MOD upgrade and your car VIN#.
I currently have the Socket setup on my car. So anytime if I upgrade, I just call them and boom its in the mail...:)
olsen185 11-22-2004, 11:08 PM AngelEye328,
So anytime if I upgrade, I just call them and boom its in the mail.
How much do they charge when you reprogram that way (price for the new chip)? Do you remember how much extra they charged you for the socketing?
Thanks,
Erik
AngelEye328i 11-22-2004, 11:16 PM AngelEye328,
So anytime if I upgrade, I just call them and boom its in the mail.
How much do they charge when you reprogram that way (price for the new chip)? Do you remember how much extra they charged you for the socketing?
Thanks,
Erik
Let for say, you brought the socket setup at $100 and the software for $300, so a total of $400. Let for say new stuff came out (S52 cams, HFM, etc) and you want to upgrade to their new software. Lets say the new software cost $450. Since you have the socket setup, and you paid the original $300, your cost ship is $150, instead of the full price of $450 if you don't have the socket setup.
What I am using is an example, not the true price eurospeed offer. I can't say for them if they offer the same deal, like we got our first GB. Because TheMadHatter, did stated it was a one-time deal.
EuroE36 11-23-2004, 03:26 PM i am also interested.
Year:1997
model: 328is
Mods: Intake, exuast, track pipe, M50, M3 cams, crank pulley
octane available, 93
I'm interested in an OBD1 3.2L chip:
Year: 1995
Model: M3
Mods: Intake, exhaust, M50, 3.5" HFM, 21.5# injectors, URI crank pulley
Octane available: 91,94
John V 11-24-2004, 08:09 AM Reply from Alex @ Eurospeed:
>>
John,
Thanks for keeping this going.
I'll get the pricing together on it this week and have something for you by Friday.
I will run the GB for 2 weeks and in that period of time, I will need payment by
all the participants. If we have 10+, great, everything will be all set. If we have
5-9, everyone will have to figure out if they want to still be a part of the GB, and
if so, have to send in payment for the remaining balance. If we don't have 5
people, then I'll just refund everyone's payment and the GB will close.
I will not extend the GB close date as I've tried doing that before to no avail.
Also, payment will be only by non-credit card paypal or check/money order.
Assuming all goes well, customers can start shipping me their DME (for the OBD2
guys) starting the monday following the close of the GB. OBD1 chips will be
shipped out that Monday/Tuesday as well. Return shipping will be UPS 3-day
select. Upgraded shipping can be added as well for an additional charge.
For the customers participating, I will need this information from them:
Year
Model
Make
Transmission Type
VIN Number
Production Date
Modifications
Gas Octane Rating
Redline (7000 is typical)
Idle Speed Adjustment (for ltw flywheel guys)
Flashing or Socketing
Give me a call tomorrow if you have any other questions or can think of
anything I forgot.
Regards,
Alex Chan
Eurospeed Performance
>>
John
snk328is 11-24-2004, 11:43 AM Is there a specific address that the check needs to be sent to, or is the address on their web-site (200 Travis Park · Cary, NC 27511) with attention to "Alex Chan" sufficient?
If paying by non-credit card PayPal, what is the PayPal account email address?
Also, two weeks from today would be Wednesday, December 8 so I'm going to assume that all payments need to arrive there on or before that date.
Thanks for keeping the GB running even though you're not in it anymore John!
FabulosoM3 11-28-2004, 07:21 PM bump..so wuts the deal with this gb?
Estoril4dr 11-28-2004, 09:37 PM I'm still in.
John V 11-29-2004, 09:54 AM bump..so wuts the deal with this gb?Still going on as far as I know. I have not heard anything from Alex. I'm guessing he got tied up with the holiday.
I will get ahold of him this week and let you guys know what is going on. I don't know the details of payment (paypal, check, credit card). You will be paying Alex and Eurospeed directly, not going through me. When Alex finalizes the pricing I will let you know.
Patience, everyone, we'll get there!
John V
snk328is 12-01-2004, 03:15 PM Sorry guys, but I need to back out of this GB.
I was planning on getting the chip for my 325 that was being built for SCCA ITS competition but they are going to require a restrictor plate starting next year. Thus, the chip won't do me any good.
uuc328 12-01-2004, 08:07 PM This is the most current list of interested participants from this thread
mjvela
zoran
uuc328 :evil2 paid :evil2
torquey
Estoril4dr
olsen185
vjlax18
97MSedan
FabulosoM3
EuroE36
Big Lun
I spoke to Alex on Monday 11/29/2004 and this is what he had to say.
paypal payments can be sent to eurospeed@mindspring.com. Final pricing is dependant on your requested modifications so you should definitely call or email him before sending your payment.
If you would prefer, you may pay by cashier's check, money order, ect. I don’t have the address so once again give him a call for your total and his mailing address.
Finally, at this time there is NOT a discount for socketing your ECU. :(
Come on guys; let’s make this thing happen!!! Time is running out and there will not be an extension like on the last GB.
Estoril4dr 12-01-2004, 08:48 PM Official price list?
mjvela 12-01-2004, 08:53 PM I wanna do this thing as soon as I get a price.
Stupid question - what's the procedure for removing the ECU and how should it be packaged for mailing to Eurospeed?
FabulosoM3 12-01-2004, 09:38 PM I wanna do this thing as soon as I get a price.
Stupid question - what's the procedure for removing the ECU and how should it be packaged for mailing to Eurospeed?
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/catalog/e36_ecu_removal.htm
I havn't done this yet but these are the steps i'm gonna follow i just found them on a search. packaging should be simple just put it in a box and wrap the ecu in bubble wrap?
uuc328 12-01-2004, 09:39 PM Regular OBD II pricing is as follows
$400 - tuning for intake, exhaust, raised rev limit
$525 - tuning for intake, exhaust, raised rev limit and M50 manifold (possibly tuning for 3.5 HFM at this price)
we need at least 5 paying people, before next weeks end, to get any discount at all.
with 5 we get 10% discount
with 10 we get 15% discount
mjvela 12-01-2004, 09:52 PM UUC,
What should our procedure be? Pay then send our ecu right away? If we send the ecu off this week (friday) when do we get them back?
Estoril4dr 12-01-2004, 09:54 PM last group buy was 20% i believe. would probably still be in for 15%, 10% if very iffy for me.
uuc328 12-01-2004, 10:06 PM Alex said we need to pay now to secure the discounted prices but to hold off on sending the ECUs until the end of the GB. Then depending on how many have paid we will make payment adjustments. For example, I paid 446.25, which is 15% off $525. If we dont reach 10 then I will need to pay the extra 5%. Next participants will need to contact Alex and have an anti static bag sent to you.
Estoril4dr 12-01-2004, 10:14 PM so then if the gb doesnt go through, can we get a refund instead of paying the full price difference? Also, any idea if he'll sweeten up the deal to 20% like the last gb?
uuc328 12-01-2004, 10:17 PM so then if the gb doesnt go through, can we get a refund instead of paying the full price difference? Also, any idea if he'll sweeten up the deal to 20% like the last gb?
Yes, if the GB doesnt go through you have the option of paying the difference or getting a refund.
torquey 12-01-2004, 10:28 PM Wow Jacob.. looks like you've done a lot of clarifying for us. I think Alex should give you an extra 10% ;) . I didn't know the price was more for the M50 :confused . Anyways.. so does this mean that the GB has officially started as of 11.29 (Monday)??
Poke2120 12-01-2004, 10:43 PM Im confused, how much would it be for an 94 325i (M50 engine) chip with intake + exhaust with 5-9 people? And how much would it be with 10+ people? Sorry, I just got all confused by the talk of refunds and such.
I might be interested.
mjvela 12-01-2004, 11:03 PM http://www.turnermotorsport.com/catalog/e36_ecu_removal.htm
I havn't done this yet but these are the steps i'm gonna follow i just found them on a search. packaging should be simple just put it in a box and wrap the ecu in bubble wrap?
Fabuloso,
Thanks for the link!
NeverLeaned 12-01-2004, 11:07 PM The price is more for the M50 too? :help
O man, Im sorry fellas I think Im gonna have to pass on this one. It doesn't make sense for me to buck down on this now if I still haven't gotten around to dropping in the M50 and putting on the exhaust.
I will call Eurospeed tomorrow to see how my case would be handled.
NL
uuc328 12-01-2004, 11:12 PM I didn't know the price was more for the M50 :confused.
yeah i was pretty bummed when i found this out too.
Im confused, how much would it be for an M50 chip with intake + exhaust with 5-9 people? And how much would it be with 10+ people? Sorry, I just got all confused by the talk of refunds and such.
I might be interested.
sorry if my notes were confusing, i tried to make them as easy as possible. for clarification, we need 5 buyers for the 10% discount and 10 buyers to get 15% off.
Poke2120 12-01-2004, 11:15 PM Ok I'm in if we have 10+. All of these chips are custom programmed for our mods, is that correct?
You can put me on the list, but I'd like to have my question answered too :)
Henry
olsen185 12-01-2004, 11:18 PM Last week I called AA for software prices. The salesman (forgot the name) quoted me $399 for the software to optimize my upgrades. I was advised that the tech flashes the dme with the appropriate changes and sends it back, no additional charges for my different upgrades. There was a $40 shipping cost on top of the $399.
Unless this group buy can get the price into the above range it would be cheaper to go strait to AA.
Erik
uuc328 12-02-2004, 01:35 AM Last week I called AA for software prices. The salesman (forgot the name) quoted me $399 for the software to optimize my upgrades. I was advised that the tech flashes the dme with the appropriate changes and sends it back, no additional charges for my different upgrades. There was a $40 shipping cost on top of the $399.
Unless this group buy can get the price into the above range it would be cheaper to go strait to AA.
Erik
i can promise you that your quote of $399 did not include mods like m50 manifold or HFM.
Eurospeed uses AA's SW so you are getting the same product and with 5 people in your price would be $360.
uuc328 12-02-2004, 01:42 AM I'll be calling Alex tomorrow afternoon to get some answers to a few new questions.
Feel free to add anything you want me to ask.
Official start/end of the GB?
Shipping cost?
SW price for those HFM and M50 manifold guys?
olsen185 12-02-2004, 08:18 AM uuc328,
Yeah if you could please clarify the prices. As far as the price I was quoted from AA, I was very clear about telling him what I wanted and we spent several minutes discussing my mods. I'm sure he could have been mistaken about the price but that is the price he quoted me.
Thanks,
Erik
97Msedan 12-02-2004, 04:40 PM FYI,
I called AA and was quoted $399 for M50 manifold software (no HFM/that jumped up to $499), $125 for socketing (including a stock and modded chip), and possibly free return shipping.
olsen185 12-02-2004, 05:31 PM Yeah that's what I thought.
As far as the GB pricing acording to the prices mentioned before:
$400 - tuning for intake, exhaust, raised rev limit
$525 - tuning for intake, exhaust, raised rev limit and M50 manifold (possibly tuning for 3.5 HFM at this price)
these are the prices using the 10% and 15% discount:
$360 - 10%
$340 - 15%
$472 - 10%
$446 - 15%
That doesn't sound like a good deal if AA is selling the same thing for $399. I hope these issues get resolved cause I am really want the software and the extra hp/tq.
Thanks,
Erik
Poke2120 12-02-2004, 05:58 PM Also, are each and every chip specially programmed for the individual mods we have (ie - intake and exhaust)?
Count me in, I'm still interested in a 94 325i chip :)
Thanks!
I'll be calling Alex tomorrow afternoon to get some answers to a few new questions.
Feel free to add anything you want me to ask.
Official start/end of the GB?
Shipping cost?
SW price for those HFM and M50 manifold guys?
uuc328 12-02-2004, 06:48 PM OBDII Group Buy Update
I spoke with Alex this afternoon and here is all the latest info that I have.
Official end date is Dec 10th
3 day UPS return shipping is included in the pricing. Obviously you pay one way to Alex.
If you have any additionals questions just call Alex (919) 858 8852
Official GB Prices before discounts.
$400 Basic Programming (CAI/Exhaust)
$525 Basic Plus tuning for M50
$625 Basic Plus tuning for M50 and 3.5 HFM
uuc328 12-02-2004, 06:50 PM Also, are each and every chip specially programmed for the individual mods we have (ie - intake and exhaust)?
Count me in, I'm still interested in a 94 325i chip :)
Thanks!
your car is OBDI, therefor this GB and it's prices do not apply
zoran 12-02-2004, 10:10 PM I'm out. Appreciate the effort.
John V 12-03-2004, 10:27 AM Good to hear an update. Thanks uuc. I hadn't heard anything from Alex and was going to e-mail him today.
Edit. The original purpose of this GB was OBD-I AND OBD-II software. I'm not sure when it became an OBD-II only purchase.
Care to fill us in?
Cosmos96 12-03-2004, 11:46 AM year: 1997
model: m3
mods: underdrive pulleys/ intake/hfm/lightweight flywheel
man/auto: man
gas: super
ok for some reason i dont understand the pricing? how much do i have to pay for the chip? and do i send them my computer or do they send me an injector? if i have to send them my computer i cant do this till summer. how much for a injector if they offer it?
olsen185 12-03-2004, 12:13 PM I'm out thanks anyway.
Erik
Poke2120 12-03-2004, 04:00 PM Wait this is an OBD-II chip gb only? I'm confused...
Also, I Emailed Alex yesterday and still haven't heard back from him.
Henry
John V 12-03-2004, 04:18 PM Wait this is an OBD-II chip gb only? I'm confused...
Also, I Emailed Alex yesterday and still haven't heard back from him.
Henry
Edit. The original purpose of this GB was OBD-I AND OBD-II software. I'm not sure when it became an OBD-II only purchase.
Care to fill us in?
Alex has not responded to my e-mails either. I have no idea what is up.
I've found software locally for much less. I'm going with them. Enjoy, fellas.
uuc328 12-03-2004, 06:43 PM this shit turned weaksauce, im out too
mjvela 12-03-2004, 07:03 PM out
John V 12-07-2004, 08:41 AM uuc328, where are you? You hijack the group buy and then disappear? :rolleyes
uuc328 12-07-2004, 03:19 PM uuc328, where are you? You hijack the group buy and then disappear? :rolleyes
i didnt hijack anything, you dropped the ball and the GB went dead. my efforts were to keep everything going for those still interested.
John V 12-13-2004, 11:05 AM i didnt hijack anything, you dropped the ball and the GB went dead. my efforts were to keep everything going for those still interested.
First of all, I've tried to contact Alex numerous times, and he has not returned my calls or e-mails in weeks. Sounds like Alex has dropped the ball here. I sent him a detailed list of everyone who was interested, their modifications that would impact programming, their DME and year information, and what programming they were interested in. If he wanted to make a sale, he'd respond.
Second, this group buy was initially for OBD-I and OBD-II software. Apparently, you decided to change that and make it for OBD-II only. That's excellent for you - but you should have started a new thread for that group buy.
I'm done here. I got Stickley software locally for a lot less than Eurospeed is marketing their software for. If someone wants to take this over, be my guest.
uuc328 12-13-2004, 05:39 PM SoloII///M,
My intensions were not to step on any toes or rule out the ODB I guys. Sorry about that. I just got excited about actually making this thing happen, that's all. When I was gathering information I only asked about ODB II pricing, that was my bad.
Just so everyone knows, this thing is still sorta kinda alive. I Spoke with Alex again this weekend and made arrangements to resend payment (long story). Mine is already in the mail, no turning back this time.
Estoril4dr 12-29-2004, 01:38 PM UUC328: how do you like the AA software. Also, did you get an idle bump for your ltw flywheel?
Solo: Is the stickly software only for OBD1 cars?
John V 01-04-2005, 11:05 AM UUC328: how do you like the AA software. Also, did you get an idle bump for your ltw flywheel?
Solo: Is the stickly software only for OBD1 cars?
I believe so, and damnit if it doesn't run fantastically. :) If you want the skinny on OBDII software you should talk to John Doby. vjlax18 on here.
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