View Full Version : Anyone Interested in my Alpina B12 6.0 Intake manifolds?
The Shadowchaser 10-27-2004, 06:24 PM The Alpina parts i won are in transit. I was wondering if anyone here would be interested in buying my intake manifolds. They will be black with the blue/green Alpina logo as seen below.
http://bestcars.gdo.kiev.ua/bmw_alpina/alpina_b12_03.jpg
This is what I am looking to replace it with. One set of these for each Cylinder bank.
http://www.twminduction.com/ThrottleBody/ThrottleBody.imgs/m3_bmw.jpg
Reed Hunt 10-27-2004, 07:06 PM The Alpina parts i won are in transit. I was wondering if anyone here would be interested in buying my intake manifolds. They will be black with the blue/green Alpina logo as seen below.
http://bestcars.gdo.kiev.ua/bmw_alpina/alpina_b12_03.jpg
This is what I am looking to replace it with. One set of these for each Cylinder bank.
http://www.twminduction.com/ThrottleBody/ThrottleBody.imgs/m3_bmw.jpg
While they look great, I fear it would sort of be like attaching the dreaded M badge to a non-M car...strictly taboo.
Auraraptor 10-27-2004, 07:31 PM How much? and what are you replacing it with exactly?
The Shadowchaser 10-27-2004, 09:01 PM While they look great, I fear it would sort of be like attaching the dreaded M badge to a non-M car...strictly taboo.
Reed,
I understand where you are coming from, but I am trying to push the envelope, not win an "M" or "Alpina" Popularity contest. :rolleyes I think I can do it tastefully and still not rice it out. :D I try to make most of my designs and concepts compliment what the factory designers have done, and yet try to raise the bar slightly. while some may find it taboo, I guarantee the passengers will find it inspiring.
How much? and what are you replacing it with exactly?
Auraraptor,
I have not gotten the pricing quote back for the Alpina Intake Manifolds yet, but I did find on the online ETK that the pair are a little over $1200. You can bet the Alpina ones are that much more since they are modified by Alpina to higher efficiency than stock. Also there are only 94 pairs of these in the world as I am told. I was looking somewhere around $1100-1200. Honestly I just wanted to see if someone was interested in buying them. They will sit in my garage anyway as I am planning to do the individual throttle body and velocity stack modification. I have the AutoCAD design software and have been playing around with setups and I believe I can make this work. I will probably do something similiar to the new M5 V10 plenum and intake setup with two plenums (one for each cylinder head) leading off into their own intake filter boxes. Everything will be backlit encased in a plexi window to show the marvels working within.
The approach I am trying for is a modern version of this intake setup shown below on the McLaren F1 V12 S70/2
http://eurotuned.com/bmw/images/McLaren/BMW_Powered_McLaren_F1_Engine.jpg
Online Etk M73 Manifold Pricing (http://rust.mine.nu/bmw/showparts.do?model=GJ03&mospid=45292&prod=20010700&btnr=11_1515&hg=11&fg=40&x=271&y=68)
Bread 10-27-2004, 09:08 PM Reed,
I understand where you are coming from, but I am trying to push the envelope, not win an "M" or "Alpina" Popularity contest. :rolleyes I think I can do it tastefully and still not rice it out. :D I try to make most of my designs and concepts compliment what the factory designers have done, and yet try to raise the bar slightly. while some may find it taboo, I guarantee the passengers will find it inspiring.
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I think he meant by putting it on HIS own car with nothing else modified it would be taboo.
ibew595 10-27-2004, 09:21 PM Reed I disagree. Putting ///M7 is stating the car is a M7. Putting MParalells on a car is adding M parts, putting Alpina wheels is adding Alpina parts. Until you put the Alpina badge/enumeration on the car you are just adding parts. I don't know any specs on it other than what Justin ( who apparently has WAY too much $$) stated about the increased airflow but it would just be adding parts. IMHO
Just don't put the Alpina roundel on and congratulations would be in order.
In other words buy it.
Justin,
Nice stack on the 750!
Trnsprtr 10-27-2004, 09:22 PM "If you want to hear God laugh, tell Him your plans"
I just said a few days back that I would love to get some of those manifolds because I'm sure they're worth a few ponies - now there is a set available and I just obliterated my budget buying a ton of other parts for the car. :mad
The Shadowchaser 10-27-2004, 09:37 PM I think he meant by putting it on HIS own car with nothing else modified it would be taboo.
Thats cool Bread. I did not mean for it to come across in a bad way, it was meant in a more to each his own kind of thing.
Reed I disagree. Putting ///M7 is stating the car is a M7. Putting MParalells on a car is adding M parts, putting Alpina wheels is adding Alpina parts. Until you put the Alpina badge/enumeration on the car you are just adding parts. I don't know any specs on it other than what Justin ( who apparently has WAY too much $$) stated about the increased airflow but it would just be adding parts. IMHO
Just don't put the Alpina roundel on and congratulations would be in order.
In other words buy it.
Justin,
Nice stack on the 750!
Ibew595,
Thanks man. No problem on adding the Alpina Roundel. As far as the WAY too much $$ thing, I am not trying to piss away cash here. I am trying to find the most cost effective way to more HP and still have total originality. Anyone can slap a supercharger on the V8 and call it a day, but I cant see myself doing that. If things start to add up and I run out of cash I will just put it on hold till I can get to the next step. Should be fun when its all done.
"If you want to hear God laugh, tell Him your plans"
I just said a few days back that I would love to get some of those manifolds because I'm sure they're worth a few ponies - now there is a set available and I just obliterated my budget buying a ton of other parts for the car. :mad
Trnsprtr,
I am sure you will have another opportunity in the future.
The Shadowchaser 10-27-2004, 10:13 PM Speaking of crazy intake mods on the M73, I saw this pic of the Gruppe-M E39 M5 intakes on an Alpina B12 5.7. Thought you guys would like to see it.
http://www.cf-motorsport.de/b12.jpg
Jeff Wong 10-28-2004, 01:40 AM Just curious, are they the equivalent of the DINAN INTAKE MANIFOLDS?
So you just swap the oems with these Alpina Intake Mans. like you do with the Dinan ones for a bit more grunt?
Jeff
Reed Hunt 10-28-2004, 12:41 PM Reed,
I understand where you are coming from, but I am trying to push the envelope, not win an "M" or "Alpina" Popularity contest. :rolleyes I think I can do it tastefully and still not rice it out. :D I try to make most of my designs and concepts compliment what the factory designers have done, and yet try to raise the bar slightly. while some may find it taboo, I guarantee the passengers will find it inspiring.
Whoops, let me be clear on this. I was in no way trying to say anything negative about your work - I am watching closely and look forward to the finished project!
All I was saying was that slapping on ONLY the Alpina valve covers (which would be a purely cosmetic enhancement, I think) is akin to putting an M badge on a non-M car, IMHO.
Sorry that I was not clear...
Reed Hunt 10-28-2004, 12:42 PM I think he meant by putting it on HIS own car with nothing else modified it would be taboo.
Bingo, thanks Bread - I didn't explain myself very well, it appears - sorry.
Reed Hunt 10-28-2004, 12:44 PM Whoops, let me be clear on this. I was in no way trying to say anything negative about your work - I am watching closely and look forward to the finished project!
All I was saying was that slapping on ONLY the Alpina valve covers (which would be a purely cosmetic enhancement, I think) is akin to putting an M badge on a non-M car, IMHO.
Sorry that I was not clear...
Oh, and if they increase flow/HP then hell yes, completely kosher...!
ibew595 10-28-2004, 01:23 PM Reed, 3 posts in 3 minutes in the same thread? Gratuitous post whoring? I agree with your last post.
Bread 10-28-2004, 03:11 PM Reed, 3 posts in 3 minutes in the same thread? Gratuitous post whoring? I agree with your last post.
I agree too. If there is a performance gain then I'd do it too. No different than adding a Dinan intake or a Remus exaust. If you wanted to put a badge on your car because of it then that's your choice.
Reed Hunt 10-28-2004, 03:15 PM Reed, 3 posts in 3 minutes in the same thread? Gratuitous post whoring? I agree with your last post.
No, it just looks that way...
Just feeling badly about my poorly worded post and trying to make amends...
No PWing here, no sirree...
Reed Hunt 10-28-2004, 03:20 PM No, it just looks that way...
Just feeling badly about my poorly worded post and trying to make amends...
No PWing here, no sirree...
Why would you even think that...?
Bread 10-28-2004, 03:21 PM Yea, don't worry about Reed, he's honest. I think the post was worded fine. Just misunderstood.
Reed Hunt 10-28-2004, 03:32 PM Yea, don't worry about Reed, he's honest. I think the post was worded fine. Just misunderstood.
Yeah, so there.
PWing indeed.
Reed Hunt 10-28-2004, 03:32 PM Yeah, so there.
PWing indeed.
Shame on you...
Reed Hunt 10-28-2004, 03:33 PM Shame on you...
That was only done by Jack and Jay, and they then sold their cars...?
What does it all mean?
Wait, this belongs in the Newb.
Claudio 10-28-2004, 03:48 PM Newb! I have found you Reed! Keyboard on and PMS to follow. Italian am not I. I am idiot am not I! I am Texan which means something to us.
Reed Hunt 10-28-2004, 04:22 PM [QUOTE=The Shadowchaser]http://bestcars.gdo.kiev.ua/bmw_alpina/alpina_b12_03.jpg
Ya know, these valve covers are starting to grow on me...
Oh wait, I am short 4 cylinders...bummer.
The Shadowchaser 10-28-2004, 05:20 PM You guys are a pisser. :D Reed, its cool, I figured as much. Sucky thing about posting as opposed to face to face conversation is you gotta keep explaining yourself . :rolleyes Jeff, I don't know about the Dinan manifolds. I would imagine they are the same.
Reed Hunt 10-28-2004, 06:04 PM You guys are a pisser. :D Reed, its cool, I figures as much. Sucky thing about posting as opposed to face to face conversation is you gotta keep explaining yourself . :rolleyes
Great, cool is good...
The Shadowchaser 10-28-2004, 06:37 PM You guys are a pisser. :D Reed, its cool, I figures as much. Sucky thing about posting as opposed to face to face conversation is you gotta keep explaining yourself . :rolleyes Jeff, I don't know about the Dinan manifolds. I would imagine they are the same.
Man,
I better check my grammar. :rolleyes I am starting to sound like Mr. Octane Thermoquiet Copperplug. That can't be good. :confused
ibew595 10-28-2004, 06:57 PM [QUOTE=The Shadowchaser]http://bestcars.gdo.kiev.ua/bmw_alpina/alpina_b12_03.jpg
Ya know, these valve covers are starting to grow on me...
Oh wait, I am short 4 cylinders...bummer.
Jus let teh other 4 "float"
:redspot
DaveClement 10-28-2004, 07:48 PM http://bestcars.gdo.kiev.ua/bmw_alpina/alpina_b12_03.jpg
Ya know, these valve covers are starting to grow on me...
Oh wait, I am short 4 cylinders...bummer.
What you are looking at is not actually the valve covers. It is the top of the intake manifolds. Each side where they are marked "ALPINA" (or BMW on the stock version) is a plenum that feeds into the runners that cross over to the cylinder on the other side. The valve covers are hidden under the intake manifold plenums and are a rather unremarkable stamped sheet metal covers.
Betray 10-28-2004, 08:48 PM god i wish i had v12 :(
Reed Hunt 10-29-2004, 01:34 AM What you are looking at is not actually the valve covers. It is the top of the intake manifolds. Each side where they are marked "ALPINA" (or BMW on the stock version) is a plenum that feeds into the runners that cross over to the cylinder on the other side. The valve covers are hidden under the intake manifold plenums and are a rather unremarkable stamped sheet metal covers.
Well yeah, I knew that...uh huh.
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