Is it possible. Especially if the 4 cylinder is lighter?

Of course. "Properly" can mean a lot of different degrees though. If you don't care about engine life you can work pretty much any amount of power out of a 4. Unfortunately it will probably be a hand grenade. With a good street build though, you can get awesome power out of 4 cylinders, plenty to beat a stock V8, and enough durability to last a long time. You'll need to run good fuel and intercool though to get up there in power and not knock. It's really all in tuning and turbo selection.

Yes it would be a well built motor. Would u have any suggestions?

All day long and then some. A good friend has a Prelude putting 500+ to the wheels;-). Bulletproof bottom end and built to take it.

Sure, crap a stock GSR will ravage half of the 50s american steel stock for stock....just depends on what stock V8 you're talking about

If you got cubic money, you can beat cubic inches.

Is it possible. Especially if the 4 cylinder is lighter?


No, never. :rolleyes

All day long.

i think there is a guy on cardomain with a bmw e30 putting out 550rwhp on a 4cyl turbo- iwould place money on that vs v8's

yeh I watch dsm's take v8 owners money around here all the time, Hell they even tried to take mine

...a dasc z3 or 318 will beat an older mustang gt v8 any day...

Of course Http://members.cardomain.com/bassmaster790

This is the most generic and stupid question of all time. I'm appauled that people took the time to answer. A 'stock' V8? You mean the one in the upcoming Z06 which will have 500hp?

of course

there is some guy in south africa laying down over 430 rwhp in his turbod 318i. but he is pushing something insane like 35 psi and a bulletproof bottom end. it can be done but is probably more effective if you built a larger dispplacement engine. plus, if you were going to turbo the hell out of that thing, you would most likely have reliability issues as 318's weren't really built to have the potential to be v8 beaters.

My old del sol with a stock b16a motor with boost would walk 99% of the v8s i ran into on the street...Pulled on z06's all day, 4-5 lengths from a 45mph roll, and would put a length or 2 on the new Vipers. My hatch now is making around 200whp more than the sol was and should be even more fun..

have joo ever heard of a lil' known car called lotus? and its N/A.

there is some guy in south africa laying down over 430 rwhp in his turbod 318i. but he is pushing something insane like 35 psi and a bulletproof bottom end.

35psi and only putting down 430rwhp......correct me if Im wrong, but does this sound a bit off to anyone else?

35psi and only putting down 430rwhp......correct me if Im wrong, but does this sound a bit off to anyone else?

take someone stating psi with a grain of salt...way to many variables to make a judgement off..

This is the most generic and stupid question of all time. I'm appauled that people took the time to answer. A 'stock' V8? You mean the one in the upcoming Z06 which will have 500hp?

You bet it would. A tuned 4 cyl, specifically a Toyota 3SGTE 2000cc 4 cyl single turbo under high applications will crank out 700hp, its so popular infact that they remove Toyotas 2JZ engines from Supra GT cars to replace them with the 4 cyls for racing applications.

Here is a good example - DSM running 8s 1/4 mile @165mph

http://www.shepracing.com/videos/shep876.avi

shepard is def crazy.

Ah,the fun starts when you turbo the V8 to 800hp and 840 lbs. :eek:

...Pulled on z06's all day, ..

That's usually the case when the Z06 is bone stock and you have 20G in your car :rolleyes

Any car can be made fast with money. You can grab a Sonata and make it faster than Porsche TT's, Vipers, Z06's, etc. This is blatantly obvious to any half enthusiast who surfs these boards. Great, you can beat Z06's and Vipers...put half the money you spent on your car on either one of the preceeding cars and see what happens.

What the hell is the point of this thread?

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have joo ever heard of a lil' known car called lotus? and its N/A.

the lotus esprite TURBO had a 4cyl that was very fast. the car had nothing before the turbo kicked in.

That's usually the case when the Z06 is bone stock and you have 20G in your car :rolleyes

Any car can be made fast with money. You can grab a Sonata and make it faster than Porsche TT's, Vipers, Z06's, etc. This is blatantly obvious to any half enthusiast who surfs these boards. Great, you can beat Z06's and Vipers...put half the money you spent on your car on either one of the preceeding cars and see what happens.

What the hell is the point of this thread?

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20G? HAHAH I WISH

I had teh stock motor with thick headgasket and a turbo setup i made for under $2000...i'd say total go fast $ spent on the car was still under $3k. And the zo6 had an exhaust and somekinda intake..prolly atleast $1000 in mods. The car dyno'ed 311whp and weighed 2100lbs...you do the math. You can build a turbo honda to run 10's easily for about 10k nowadays (including the cost of the car)...so come again :embarrasm

You're missing my point...

A couple things:

1.) How long do you think that motor would've lasted you?
2.) An intake and exhaust on a Z06 does not cost $1000.
3.) I never contradicted you can build a honda to run 10's, I said with money, you can make any car fast. Doesn't mean jack for the 4 cylinder cars.

How much boost were you running with your car to be able to beat such cars?

I'm not here to argue and pinpoint your achievements, but you can't just go around blabbing you can beat this and that without knowing what will happen to your "time bomb".

You're missing my point...

A couple things:

1.) How long do you think that motor would've lasted you?
2.) An intake and exhaust on a Z06 does not cost $1000.
3.) I never contradicted you can build a honda to run 10's, I said with money, you can make any car fast. Doesn't mean jack for the 4 cylinder cars.

How much boost were you running with your car to be able to beat such cars?

I'm not here to argue and pinpoint your achievements, but you can't just go around blabbing you can beat this and that without knowing what will happen to your "time bomb".

the motor has been @ over 300whp on stock internals since last october...its in a friends car and runs 11.8's@122 all day. yes is will blow sometime but parts are so cheap, $800 for forged pistons/rods and the car ill be in the 10's easiliy...Beleive me i love z06's...i mess with honda's as a way to go fast for cheap :)

A good friends z06 run's mid 10's...the car is sick...but he has spent alot more than i have :)

the motor has been @ over 300whp on stock internals since last october...its in a friends car and runs 11.8's@122 all day. yes is will blow sometime but parts are so cheap, $800 for forged pistons/rods and the car ill be in the 10's easiliy...Beleive me i love z06's...i mess with honda's as a way to go fast for cheap :)

Awesome...:)

I guess we can just leave it at that:D

A good friends z06 run's mid 10's...the car is sick...but he has spent alot more than i have :)

Low 12's will hold me over for quite some time, I think;)

I didn't think my "stupid" question would cause such madness :evil2
LMAO

its just a really broad question. Well and comparing a stock car to a modded one really isnt fair. can a 2.0 litre motor maxed out be faster than a 6.0 litre maxed out? no. What you can do to one motor you can do to any other, the saying there is no replacement for displacement is prolly the most true saying in this buisness. It just comes down to how much you can spend. V8s still go faster for cheaper money, my friends foxbody went 10s for 7 grand car included allthough he did do his own labor.

Alright good point. What about a turboed m-10 against an 80's chevy s-10 that has a v-8 swap? Im not sure which v8 they use, perhaps you know? I know the m-10 can be quite formidable when enhanced performance wise.

i beat v8's all the time in my 4 door... for the record 23 psi on stock crank, rods, pistons, and head (never off or apart)... 100 oct. gas... still @ "reman" spec.'s for compression on all 4 with 110,000 miles... just about any awd dsm can run 13's mostly stock and not worry about blowing up...