View Full Version : 330ci vs SLK230
mihalis 09-27-2004, 06:37 AM It was a beautiful morning here yesterday and I was just driving along 125 enjoying the nice weather. The road up ahead changed up from 1 lane to two due to the traffic light and everyone was lined up on the left. I decide to take the right since no one was there. As I approach the red light I down shift to second thinking it was going to change to green soon...as I'm almost to a complete stop [going about 10mph] the light turns green...now I was just going to keep it in 2nd and just go, but the car to my left [SLK 230 with two people in it] decided to floor it :eek: and gets a huge car and half length on me!!! So down to first I went and just floored it! By the top of first I was already 3/4 of a car in front, switched it to 2nd [stupid traction control kicks in] and kept it floored. I look back after a couple of seconds and they had shut down. I came to a stop at the next light and they lined up way behind me to avoid running again...oh well, it was a fun quick little run :)
shmoo 09-27-2004, 11:59 AM You pickin on a car with 4 cylinders? :stickoutt
BMW#1Enthusiast 09-27-2004, 12:32 PM nice kill
mihalis 09-27-2004, 12:48 PM You pickin on a car with 4 cylinders? :stickoutt
Yes, but those are supercharged :)
IS 300_M 09-27-2004, 01:07 PM Yes, but those are supercharged :)
With almost no aftermarket upgrades available :D
With almost no aftermarket upgrades available :D
Slushboxes deserve no better.
IS 300_M 09-27-2004, 01:46 PM Slushboxes deserve no better.
..................but what can you say about those auto tt supra with 1000+ hp :evil2
..................but what can you say about those auto tt supra with 1000+ hp :evil2
I can't say anything, really. But I'd probably say NO.
IS 300_M 09-27-2004, 02:30 PM I can't say anything, really. But I'd probably say NO.
that's what i thought too..................that you might have a fast car but it would probably the most boring car. but after i had a ride on my friends car (not exactly 1000hp) my perception about auto changed :D
FrankW 09-27-2004, 02:41 PM With almost no aftermarket upgrades available :D
there are tons of stuff you can do to them. i.e. Brabus, Kleemann, Carlsson, Lorinser, RENNTech, etc.
there are tons of stuff you can do to them. i.e. Brabus, Kleemann, Carlsson, Lorinser, RENNTech, etc.
Tranny swap?
IS 300_M 09-27-2004, 03:13 PM there are tons of stuff you can do to them. i.e. Brabus, Kleemann, Carlsson, Lorinser, RENNTech, etc.
yeah a lot of tuners for mercedes but very limited upgrades for the 4 cyl engines...... ;)
E46Technik 09-27-2004, 03:34 PM haha yup nice one
mihalis 09-27-2004, 05:35 PM those are pretty quick. My old boss had a MB C230 Kompressor, and that thing was pretty damn fast. Will not match the power of my car, but it was peppy. This kid that still works with him said that he raced him one time and got raped. He was driving a '92 Integra 5-speed and he said he was pushing his car to the limit and the C230 destroyed him. So my old boss got really cocky since then, thinking his car was one of the fastest out there... :rolleyes I was thinking of stopping by my old job since I got my new ride... :)
dinan325i 09-27-2004, 07:34 PM Nice kill man. My friend matt drives an slk230. I forgot what year, I think it's like 4-5 years old. Its the convertable with auto/tep. Anyway he has pullies and rennen or rentech exhaust, whatever it's called. Anyway with just those two mods he has matched a mustang gt. Not bad for alittle 4 cylinder with just two mods if I say myself. I agree with is300 though. There really isnt alot of things you can do to his car. He said he cant do intake, I guess unless you go custom, and I guess he can chip his car, but I'm not sure.
AzNaLaN15 09-27-2004, 07:41 PM even 328s beat slk230s...
silverslk 09-27-2004, 08:32 PM Slushboxes deserve no better.
except they came with a 5speed in 1999 then went to a 6 speed.......probably should know what you are talking about first.
"even 328s beat slk230s..." UH.......NO, sorry. Hit me up I'm in so cal we can see about that.
dinan325i 09-27-2004, 08:48 PM even 328s beat slk230s...
The way you said that it's as if a 328 isn't too fast. A stock manual 328is is no slouch in it self, running low sixes and 14's. So If I saw a 328 beat an slk230 and not by too much then I'd actually think the slk was no slouch either. Like I said though even with those two mods my friend has, he was actually dead even with a newer mustang GT. That's not that bad If I say so myself for a 230. Anyway just my two cents.
awahl63 09-27-2004, 08:54 PM I've never been a big fan of mercedes
dinan325i 09-27-2004, 08:58 PM I've never been a big fan of mercedes
Yeah I actually agree with that. I just always felt they were underpowered for the price. That's just my opinion though. Also you get alot more in those cars with the prices they do ask for beyond the speed, I'll grant any mercedes owner that one. I'm not saying mercedes are slow by the way so I hope noone takes this personal, just my feelings.
AzNaLaN15 09-27-2004, 09:39 PM thats my comment... so why is a 330ci picking on a slk230 when a car with 40 less hp can take it... its like a waste of gas... just my opinion
shmoo 09-27-2004, 09:58 PM Yes, but those are supercharged :)
I think there are some SLK230 without supercharger.
coolcarlski 09-27-2004, 10:10 PM Yeah I actually agree with that. I just always felt they were underpowered for the price. That's just my opinion though. Also you get alot more in those cars with the prices they do ask for beyond the speed, I'll grant any mercedes owner that one. I'm not saying mercedes are slow by the way so I hope noone takes this personal, just my feelings.The E55 way cheaper than the new M5 and times are almost similar.Clk 500 ,cheaper and faster than new 545i as well.But like you said ,this is all your own personal opinions. :confused
coolcarlski 09-27-2004, 10:12 PM I think there are some SLK230 without supercharger.NOPE ,they've always been supercharged from day one!
coolcarlski 09-27-2004, 10:24 PM thats my comment... so why is a 330ci picking on a slk230 when a car with 40 less hp can take it... its like a waste of gas... just my opinionYour comment! :nono Slk modded can give you a run for the money if you own a 330ci.Supercharged 318i's and ti's run very good as well.They(slk and 318's) are also pretty light.Plus supercharged they make almost as much power if not the same as a stck ZHP.
dinan325i 09-28-2004, 12:54 AM The E55 way cheaper than the new M5 and times are almost similar.Clk 500 ,cheaper and faster than new 545i as well.But like you said ,this is all your own personal opinions. :confused
Hey man i'm just saying there are alot that are quite expensive like the SL65, which reaches an MSRP alone of 180K, and does the 0-60 in 4.2. Not saying the 0-60 is the most important thing in the world or anything but there are many other cars you can get for much cheaper around that speed. Another example is an SLK230 is around 40K if not more, my 325i stock manual is around 30K. We're pretty much dead even speed wise. Same 0-60 in 7.0. Quarter mile probably not too much different either.
AzNaLaN15 09-28-2004, 01:38 AM T_T thought we was talkin about stock here...
Your comment! :nono Slk modded can give you a run for the money if you own a 330ci.Supercharged 318i's and ti's run very good as well.They(slk and 318's) are also pretty light.Plus supercharged they make almost as much power if not the same as a stck ZHP.
FrankW 09-28-2004, 03:19 AM yeah a lot of tuners for mercedes but very limited upgrades for the 4 cyl engines...... ;)
limited as in?
AzNaLaN15 09-28-2004, 04:25 AM uh oh here comes the benz owners, hes gonna own u up in terms of info =p i keed i keed
FrankW 09-28-2004, 05:37 AM uh oh here comes the benz owners, hes gonna own u up in terms of info =p i keed i keed
:lol FYI the benz owner had a little topaz blue car called 328Ci before joining the darkside and he was running w/ his friends stock 99 SLk230 sport all the time and they were about the same side by side.
IS 300_M 09-28-2004, 10:29 AM limited as in?
c'mon i think you know what i'm talking about......just go to a local speed shop and see how far you can go with a 4 cly mercedes. i know a little bit about this coz i used to own a c230 kompressor and i know how frustrating it is to at least double the flywheel hp. now compare that same car with any other german auto makers and you can see how easy it is double their hp. now go ahead and check those tuners you mentioned before and see what they have to offer........oh if its a custom job then it doesn't count coz then you can say there was a turbo kit for a yugo :D
coolcarlski 09-28-2004, 08:47 PM T_T thought we was talkin about stock here...
Or even a stck slk or c230 K.They're not slouches.
coolcarlski 09-28-2004, 08:48 PM Hey man i'm just saying there are alot that are quite expensive like the SL65, which reaches an MSRP alone of 180K, and does the 0-60 in 4.2. Not saying the 0-60 is the most important thing in the world or anything but there are many other cars you can get for much cheaper around that speed. Another example is an SLK230 is around 40K if not more, my 325i stock manual is around 30K. We're pretty much dead even speed wise. Same 0-60 in 7.0. Quarter mile probably not too much different either.0-100 is more important!!!!! ;)How many cars can you name run 0-60 in 4.2 secs unmodded for less money?
AzNaLaN15 09-28-2004, 11:02 PM 0-100 is more important!!!!! ;)How many cars can you name run 0-60 in 4.2 secs unmodded for less money?
ok time to bust a nut... not tryin to be a bitch but there r a lot of cars that can be similar to the sl65 but at a much cheaper price. gonna post anything in the 4s range
1997 Acura NSX-T 4.8 13.3
2002 Acura NSX 4.8 13.4
2004 Audi S4 4.9 n/a
2002 Aston Martin V-12 Vanquish 4.4 12.9
2002 BMW M Roadster 4.5 13.1
2002 BMW M3 4.7 13.4
2002 BMW M5 4.8 13.3
2001 BMW Z8 4.6 13.0
2002 BMW Z8 4.5 12.8
1986 Buick Regal Grand National 4.9 13.9
1987 Buick Regal GNX 4.7 13.5
1990 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.4 12.8
1994 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.7 13.1
1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.9 13.1
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Collectors' 4.9 13.3
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport 4.7 13.3
1997 Chevrolet Corvette 4.7 13.3
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.6 13.0
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Coupe 4.8 13.1
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.1 12.5
holy crap... i shouldnt have started this... there r too many to list... im only on the C section of the list
Mcruiser 09-28-2004, 11:40 PM Prior to my current M roadster, I had a supercharged 1.9 Z3 with cai/exhaust running on 17” rims and never had problems with 328 but can’t say that I can run with 330 especially at higher speed.
dinan325i 09-28-2004, 11:48 PM ok time to bust a nut... not tryin to be a bitch but there r a lot of cars that can be similar to the sl65 but at a much cheaper price. gonna post anything in the 4s range
1997 Acura NSX-T 4.8 13.3
2002 Acura NSX 4.8 13.4
2004 Audi S4 4.9 n/a
2002 Aston Martin V-12 Vanquish 4.4 12.9
2002 BMW M Roadster 4.5 13.1
2002 BMW M3 4.7 13.4
2002 BMW M5 4.8 13.3
2001 BMW Z8 4.6 13.0
2002 BMW Z8 4.5 12.8
1986 Buick Regal Grand National 4.9 13.9
1987 Buick Regal GNX 4.7 13.5
1990 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.4 12.8
1994 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.7 13.1
1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.9 13.1
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Collectors' 4.9 13.3
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport 4.7 13.3
1997 Chevrolet Corvette 4.7 13.3
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.6 13.0
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Coupe 4.8 13.1
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.1 12.5
holy crap... i shouldnt have started this... there r too many to list... im only on the C section of the list
Yeah that looks like alot of cars to me to.
FrankW 09-29-2004, 02:23 AM Yeah that looks like alot of cars to me to.
yeah, those do run in the 4's, but pay close attention to how many of those are running low 12's in the quarter which is the SL65 time. I only see the Zo6.
Vanquish cost more than the SL65 I think?
AzNaLaN15 09-29-2004, 02:48 AM sigh... u really want me to work huh? heres ur 12 sec cars for the 1/4 miles
1997 Dodge Viper GTS 4.0 12.2
1998 Dodge Viper GTS 4.1 12.2
1998 Dodge Viper RT/10 4.1 12.3
2001 Dodge Viper GTS ACR 4.3 12.6
2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10 3.9 12.1
1995 Ferrari 333 SP 3.6 11.3
992 Ferrari 512 TR 4.7 12.9
2000 Ferrari 550 Maranello 4.2 12.7
2003 Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 4.2 12.6
1992 Ferrari F40 3.8 11.8
2005 Ford GT40 3.8 12.2
2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2001 Ford Mustang Roush Stage 3 4.3 12.9
1991 Jaguar XJR-15 4.5 12.6
2002 Lamborghini Murcielago 3.6 12.0
1998 Lotus Esprit V8 Turbo 4.4 12.8
2002 Mosler MT900 Photon 3.1 11.0
1994 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.6 4.5 12.9
1997 Porsche 911 Turbo S 3.6 11.9
2001 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.9 12.3
1999 Porsche 911 GT1 3.4 10.9
2001 Porsche 911 GT2 3.6 11.9
2002 Porsche 911 GT2 3.6 11.9
1991 Porsche Turbo 4.6 12.9
1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C 4.6 12.7
well u made me list the 12 sec cars i guess not that many so u win
FrankW 09-29-2004, 03:06 AM MotorTrend info eh? :D I thought you were just gonna list cars that are cheaper than the SL65?
anywayz, now list cars that weight around 4500 lbs and still run the same time, pls. :D The MBUSA site says the SL65 can do 60 in 4.2, I wonder what time can MotorTrend guys get since they usually post quicker time for all the cars.
AzNaLaN15 09-29-2004, 03:14 AM i already did too much work for this T_T dont make me do anymore!!! haha
FrankW 09-29-2004, 03:21 AM i already did too much work for this T_T dont make me do anymore!!! haha
haha :D
well, I can tell you other than the Vipers, Fords, Ferrari 512TR, Porsche 984/993/996 Turbo/Turbo S, the Esprit, and the Shelby. All other cost more than the SL65.
coolcarlski 09-29-2004, 07:30 AM yeah, those do run in the 4's, but pay close attention to how many of those are running low 12's in the quarter which is the SL65 time. I only see the Zo6.
Vanquish cost more than the SL65 I think?The Aston Martin sure as hell does cost more.
coolcarlski 09-29-2004, 07:33 AM ok time to bust a nut... not tryin to be a bitch but there r a lot of cars that can be similar to the sl65 but at a much cheaper price. gonna post anything in the 4s range
1997 Acura NSX-T 4.8 13.3
2002 Acura NSX 4.8 13.4
2004 Audi S4 4.9 n/a
2002 Aston Martin V-12 Vanquish 4.4 12.9
2002 BMW M Roadster 4.5 13.1
2002 BMW M3 4.7 13.4
2002 BMW M5 4.8 13.3
2001 BMW Z8 4.6 13.0
2002 BMW Z8 4.5 12.8
1986 Buick Regal Grand National 4.9 13.9
1987 Buick Regal GNX 4.7 13.5
1990 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.4 12.8
1994 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.7 13.1
1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.9 13.1
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Collectors' 4.9 13.3
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport 4.7 13.3
1997 Chevrolet Corvette 4.7 13.3
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.6 13.0
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Coupe 4.8 13.1
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.1 12.5
holy crap... i shouldnt have started this... there r too many to list... im only on the C section of the listThere is only 1 car you show here that can do a 0-60 in 4.2. The other list shows cars that cost just as much if not more and run the same times or are a lil faster.Like I said the biggest thing is the times to 0-100 and I'll even stretch it past the 1/4 mile speeds and say 0-130mph. Show me another car cheaper that does 4.2 or quicker because you only showed me ONE!And a lot of the cars you posted here do slower times as the speed gets higher.NOT THE MB! BABY! :buttrock
AzNaLaN15 09-29-2004, 11:38 AM damnit coolcarski just look up at my other post... theres more cars that do 0-60 in 4.2 or less just u asked for 1/4 mile times... dont overwork me here...
IS 300_M 09-29-2004, 11:40 AM what's 0-100 time for sl 65?
nomoreM3 09-29-2004, 11:52 AM i didnt used to like MBZ...but all their new cars are pretty sikk...
esp. the SL65 AMG...that makes me wetter than the Z06 does (from another post)...haha
now throw on some N1 style mufflers, Type-R stickers, spoon rims...and you can run 10's :buttrock
DINANISR3 09-29-2004, 12:07 PM There is a lot of MODS you can do. Anything from uprgrading the supercharger, chip tuning, Lorinser even makes a turbo kit. Hugo, before I got the M roadster I knew that Renntech will swap my slushie to a manual tranny. I talked to one of the guys there and after all is done the damage would be like 15-20K just for a damn tranny swap. I went down to Brabus in NPB and talked to a guy there too, I asked about a 5.8L motor swap with tranny, I was quoted about $70-80K, I wanted more speed and a manual tranny, it was a no brainer that I should just get a brand new car. I ended up with the M roadster and am very happy with it. MODS are endless if you have big $$$$$$$. In my case it was much cheaper to buy a whole new car then to mod it the way I wanted it. I love both MB and BMW. My MB does exactly what I use it for, its a comfortable/reliable daily beater. My BMW is a garage queen. :D
IS 300_M 09-29-2004, 01:20 PM There is a lot of MODS you can do. Anything from uprgrading the supercharger, chip tuning, Lorinser even makes a turbo kit. Hugo, before I got the M roadster I knew that Renntech will swap my slushie to a manual tranny. I talked to one of the guys there and after all is done the damage would be like 15-20K just for a damn tranny swap. I went down to Brabus in NPB and talked to a guy there too, I asked about a 5.8L motor swap with tranny, I was quoted about $70-80K, I wanted more speed and a manual tranny, it was a no brainer that I should just get a brand new car. I ended up with the M roadster and am very happy with it. MODS are endless if you have big $$$$$$$. In my case it was much cheaper to buy a whole new car then to mod it the way I wanted it. I love both MB and BMW. My MB does exactly what I use it for, its a comfortable/reliable daily beater. My BMW is a garage queen. :D
yeah you can make a Yugo a ten second car if you have the money :D you can't make these 4 cyl MB fast unless you go the custom route just like you said and not even worth your money.......just my .02
FrankW 09-29-2004, 02:17 PM yeah you can make a Yugo a ten second car if you have the money :D you can't make these 4 cyl MB fast unless you go the custom route just like you said and not even worth your money.......just my .02
mods from name brand like Brabus, Lorinser, etc are not custom. Custom work would be something like a guy w/ CLK430 that uses a vortec supercharger.
nomoreM3 09-29-2004, 03:06 PM sorry for being lazy....but is this SLK230 even a Kompressor model?
if not, then i think that's why IS300 is trying to say that it's not worth while for the 4-banger short of a motor swap or throwing on a blower
edit: wait...i just read in the beginning that they're all supercharged...all SLK230 are supercharged? i dont think so...=T
IS 300_M 09-29-2004, 03:24 PM mods from name brand like Brabus, Lorinser, etc are not custom. Custom work would be something like a guy w/ CLK430 that uses a vortec supercharger.
I know that :rolleyes but to make big number out of slk 230 you need some fabrications. upgrades for the slk 230 or c230 from brabus, lorinser, kleemann etc to me are not enough to make these 4 bangers go fast to even compete with s2000. let me ask you a question, give me an upgrade kit that would make this cars in the 13s or even low 14s :)
DINANISR3 09-29-2004, 03:28 PM sorry for being lazy....but is this SLK230 even a Kompressor model?
if not, then i think that's why IS300 is trying to say that it's not worth while for the 4-banger short of a motor swap or throwing on a blower
edit: wait...i just read in the beginning that they're all supercharged...all SLK230 are supercharged? i dont think so...=T
All the SLK230's in the states are supercharged. The C230 models from 99+ are supercharged as well.
mihalis 09-29-2004, 05:42 PM All the SLK230's in the states are supercharged. The C230 models from 99+ are supercharged as well.
189hp correct?
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