View Full Version : Calling AFE intake users with Software.. Question from JAJJA....


jajja
09-16-2004, 10:08 PM
anyone of you experience stalling ?? Like when rolling to a stop after a high RPM run ?

Of those with the AFE and stock code, has this happened?

I think it might be either, my ECU adapting with the powerchip code, or could be lack of screen that is missing with the veloicty stack style machined intake..

Comments?

BMWguy206
09-16-2004, 10:20 PM
I have the AFE intake and stock software. M3 has not stalled since the AFE intake was installed about 2 weeks ago.

jesusfreak
09-17-2004, 12:46 AM
i have afe intake,no problems at all,(waynem3 staled couple of times tho,not anymore)
i think ur car has to get useto the new intake.(sensor idk).

Rollaway
09-17-2004, 03:31 AM
I've had the intake for a week or two. Haven't had any issues so far.

Jeff@eurobahn.us
09-17-2004, 01:21 PM
anyone of you experience stalling ?? Like when rolling to a stop after a high RPM run ?

Of those with the AFE and stock code, has this happened?

I think it might be either, my ECU adapting with the powerchip code, or could be lack of screen that is missing with the veloicty stack style machined intake..

Comments?

There have been a few customers who have experienced the same problem after just installing the intake. None of those folks continue to have the problem once the ECU adapts to the greater air flow. However, most of the people who have received the intake have not had the problem. It seems that certain versions of the ECU programming take longer to adapt than other versions. We have had several people with the Powerchips programming that have had difficulty, so far only one of our software customers has had the issue.

Jeff
Eurobahn

jajja
09-17-2004, 01:44 PM
There have been a few customers who have experienced the same problem after just installing the intake. None of those folks continue to have the problem once the ECU adapts to the greater air flow. However, most of the people who have received the intake have not had the problem. It seems that certain versions of the ECU programming take longer to adapt than other versions. We have had several people with the Powerchips programming that have had difficulty, so far only one of our software customers has had the issue.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Thanks for the info JEff.. i'll keep a eye on it..

PS. Intake Rocks !!

AndrewM3
09-17-2004, 06:29 PM
Are you running with or without the cover?

--Andrew

jajja
09-17-2004, 06:53 PM
Are you running with or without the cover?

--Andrew

with cover

M-Phibian
09-18-2004, 02:24 AM
No stalling whatsoever with or without the cover....and I'm currently running without the cover. Car runs great.

MAB Badgerbimmer
09-18-2004, 11:10 AM
I haven't seen any input on dyno runs other than the person who posted them on the BMW M3 forum. He got better dyno runs with the cover off. However he installed the intake incorrectly. He did not have the front of the stock input on which will bring cold air to the intake in real world driving. I have to believe correct install with cover on, to prevent using heated air, is the best real world set up.

M-Phibian
09-18-2004, 02:19 PM
LOL...I didn't install the intake "incorrectly" num-nuts. I simply didn't go out and purchase another OEM front air intake after I removed my GruppeM. I also spoke with the lead engineer of the AFE intake as to my results, and he agreed with me that you will get more air with the cover removed than with it on. He flat out told me that the cover is pretty much for "looks".

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?p=454588&highlight=afe+eric#post454588

You should really try reading entire threads before forming incorrect hypothesis that make you look foolish.


I haven't seen any input on dyno runs other than the person who posted them on the BMW M3 forum. He got better dyno runs with the cover off. However he installed the intake incorrectly. He did not have the front of the stock input on which will bring cold air to the intake in real world driving. I have to believe correct install with cover on, to prevent using heated air, is the best real world set up.

jajja
09-18-2004, 02:22 PM
LOL...I didn't install the intake "incorrectly" num-nuts. I simply didn't go out and purchase another OEM front air intake after I removed my GruppeM. I also spoke with the lead engineer of the AFE intake as to my results, and he agreed with me that you will get more air with the cover removed than with it on. He flat out told me that the cover is pretty much for "looks". You shoud, try reading entire threads before forming incorrect hypothesis that make you look foolish. :D

AFE said to keep the cover removed?

M-Phibian
09-18-2004, 02:24 PM
Follow the link I just posted above.


AFE said to keep the cover removed?

MAB Badgerbimmer
09-18-2004, 06:26 PM
LOL...I didn't install the intake "incorrectly" num-nuts. I simply didn't go out and purchase another OEM front air intake after I removed my GruppeM. I also spoke with the lead engineer of the AFE intake as to my results, and he agreed with me that you will get more air with the cover removed than with it on. He flat out told me that the cover is pretty much for "looks".

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?p=454588&highlight=afe+eric#post454588

You should really try reading entire threads before forming incorrect hypothesis that make you look foolish.

My statement is correct you installed it incorrectly. It was designed for the front end of the stock intake. Yours does include this piece, thus your install is incorrect. I also didn't state categorically that the results would be better; I said I would believe the results would be better. That is a statement of anticipated outcome, not known fact. Additionally it is a logical anticipated outcome as more cold air for an intake the better. The only verifiable evidence would be a dynamic measure of HP. Consequently, dumb f**k, I hardly think the adjective "num-nuts" is appropriate .

M-Phibian
09-18-2004, 06:49 PM
The install is correct, dipsh1t (is that more appropriate for you?). I just chose not to re-install the front portion of the stock intake that was already missing in the first place. The actual install of the AFE intake does not change dependant on whether I put this piece in or not. According to your skewed logic...simply leaving the intake cover off makes the install incorrect as well. After my discussion with the lead engineer...we both agreed that at speed there is enough cold air under the hood for it not to matter. Same thing with the cover.

Regarding the cover...you made a incorrect assumption that you probably wouldn't have made had you actually spent a little extra time reading the entire thread. I can understand you being embarrassed and a little pissed off for making yourself look like an idiot. No worries though...everyone makes mistakes:D


My statement is correct you installed it incorrectly. It was designed for the front end of the stock intake. Yours does include this piece, thus your install is incorrect. I also didn't state categorically that the results would be better; I said I would believe the results would be better. That is a statement of anticipated outcome, not known fact. Additionally it is a logical anticipated outcome as more cold air for an intake the better. The only verifiable evidence would be a dynamic measure of HP. Consequently, dumb f**k, I hardly think the adjective "num-nuts" is appropriate .

Jeff@eurobahn.us
09-18-2004, 09:37 PM
Hey guys ease up a bit. Remember that Forums are two dimensional, you can't see a persons face to know if they are ribbing you or giving you shit so lets try and remember that.

Jeff
Eurobahn

MattMan
09-19-2004, 02:16 AM
I think we can say they are seriously going after each other... FIGHT FIGHT!!!

Ok.. just kidding.

I think we can also agree that Scott did not install the AFE Intake as intended by AFE. Scott installed the AFE correctly. AFE just assumed that the front OEM piece would still be there.

Scott: Did they say that the back shield was a required/useful piece?

MAB Badgerbimmer
09-19-2004, 09:13 AM
The install is correct, dipsh1t (is that more appropriate for you?). I just chose not to re-install the front portion of the stock intake that was already missing in the first place. The actual install of the AFE intake does not change dependant on whether I put this piece in or not. According to your skewed logic...simply leaving the intake cover off makes the install incorrect as well. After my discussion with the lead engineer...we both agreed that at speed there is enough cold air under the hood for it not to matter. Same thing with the cover.

Regarding the cover...you made a incorrect assumption that you probably wouldn't have made had you actually spent a little extra time reading the entire thread. I can understand you being embarrassed and a little pissed off for making yourself look like an idiot. No worries though...everyone makes mistakes:D

LOL!

M-Phibian
09-19-2004, 09:26 AM
We never discussed it, Matt. But my guess is it is.


Sorry MAB. I was pissed off at the world yesterday.


I
Scott: Did they say that the back shield was a required/useful piece?

MAB Badgerbimmer
09-19-2004, 11:53 AM
No problem. Curious if you still have the front piece of the stock intake and if so if you were going to try and reinstall that as an experiment to see if it makes a difference. Particularly with the cover on then off. Lots of variables, 4, but it would be interesting if you noted a discernable difference amoung the 4.

At some point, I'll wait to see what the K&N looks like, I will do this intake. Next on the list however is headers, cats, 4.10 diff, diff cooler and accusump.

M-Phibian
09-19-2004, 12:35 PM
I don't have the front piece anymore (wife threw it away accidentally) but I plan on purchasing a new one next week. I'll try and get another dyno and post results again for the heck of it. I also plan on going to the track and running the car with and without the cover on to see if there's any noticable difference in trap speed. I'll post all results as I get them.

Smart move on the headers, cats and diff by the way.


No problem. Curious if you still have the front piece of the stock intake and if so if you were going to try and reinstall that as an experiment to see if it makes a difference. Particularly with the cover on then off. Lots of variables, 4, but it would be interesting if you noted a discernable difference amoung the 4.

At some point, I'll wait to see what the K&N looks like, I will do this intake. Next on the list however is headers, cats, 4.10 diff, diff cooler and accusump.

MAB Badgerbimmer
09-19-2004, 09:22 PM
I've got more OEM E36 and E46 M3 parts then a dealership up in my attic. My wife occassionally asks me "what is all that stuff." I just tell her she really doesn't want to know the answer to that question. She hasn't tossed anything...yet.

What track do you normally run at? I will be running on Road America next Sat & Sun.

skeemr4
09-22-2004, 07:53 PM
how does the intake sound???

Irrenarzt
09-23-2004, 02:52 PM
Road America dominates all other tracks