http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=168265039&dealer_id=&car_year=1995&make=BMW&distance=any&max_price=&model=M3&sort_type=distance&advcd_on=n&end_year=1995&min_price=&certified=n&address=83702&search_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1995&=&color=&cardist=403

I talked to this guy and the car has Bilstein PSS9s, UUC exhaust, UUC SSK, Sparco Seats, 4 point bolt in roll bar, 18" Hamman's with some sore of Pirelli racing slick, 14" Brembo brakes, the engine is completely stock, front splitter, rear spoiler, front strut brace, rear shock tower brace, sway bars

He told me he had $20,000 invested. does this sound right?
I think he is asking too much

what do you guys think?

He's got an off the shelf street suspension, a few bolt-ons, a rollbar, seats, bling wheels with slicks, a front BBK and some aero do-dads. Not too extreme of a setup IMO.

I'd have to say the asking price is a bit high...

WAY high on asking price.

and I would have to say that his pic is the WORST I have ever seen.

Def said it all. Thread closed.

does some one want to call him and tell him he is asking too much for me?

does some one want to call him and tell him he is asking too much for me?

no. stop being such a priss. go up to him and make an offer. he will refuse, give him your card and say call me in a month when it's still for sale if you want to make a deal.

does some one want to call him and tell him he is asking too much for me?
I will, but I bet I will piss him off in the process. :devillook

That guys dreaming; offer him 12k.

no. stop being such a priss. go up to him and make an offer. he will refuse, give him your card and say call me in a month when it's still for sale if you want to make a deal.

That is what I plan to do, I was thinking that it would help if multiple people told him, he was asking way too much

That thing is far from a race car. The only stuff worth keeping is the UUC, Evo seats and maybe the Brembos if the brakes work well with the car.

It's not worth a penny over $14,000 and that's only because it has fairly low miles.

It'd be worth 18-19 if it's in *perfect* shape inside and out. You're missing the stock seats, though....

If you've even considered spending $25k on a '95 M3 for track use, get an EvoVIII
instead for not much more.


,

Without a doubt, this is the first time I've seen slicks on Hamann wheels :stickoutt

that car is far from a racecar...note the hamann wheels and other fine accuturements. Looks like someones double duty street whip and occasional DE car....

if you want a "race" car, and does not have to be street legal, there are q bunch of WC cars for sale in that range that are worth 5 times the car posted above, and are MUCH better.

For $5k less than that you can have my 325i, its closer to a race car than that =)

if you want a "race" car, and does not have to be street legal, there are q bunch of WC cars for sale in that range that are worth 5 times the car posted above, and are MUCH better.

Steve...your just jealous because Sofro didn't include that set of 19" Hamanns in the spares package for you're ride... :devillook :D ....don't hate da playa, hate da game foo ;) :stickoutt

HAHA, ya thats all I need, 45lb wheels holding my tiny 2.5L back, LOL. I miht as well grab some 22 chroms and make my own widebody kit flared sides and UP into the cabin.

But seriously, you can find a WC and "real" racecars (not a hodge pdge street car) for $20-25K, and WC is a great place to look for a car, just don't rush into anything, make sure you know its history, etc.

That is really over priced especially if he beats in on the track. I would go no higher than 16k if that. He does have nice rims but they are proboly not in that good of shape. There are proboly stone chips like crazy on the fornt. I say if you wanted to buy the car for track use or a daily driver i wouldnt go any higher than 15k depending on the condition of the wheels/ paint exetra.

ha ha ha.....no one mentioned the wing. That is a piece....calculate the cost to remove and repair.....

ha ha ha.....no one mentioned the wing. That is a piece....calculate the cost to remove and repair.....

Ehh. I know a few club racers who have used similiar "cheapy" wings quite effectively. In fact, mounted a little higher, it would probably work as well as the PTG style wings most folks are using.

The wings they use in WC-T might look ricey, but they most likely, if there were no regulations on height (like in wc) they would work better than the PTG adjustable wings. The only thing holding back the performance of the wings in WCT is the restrictions they use for the height (6" below roof line i believe). What happens when the wing is too low, is it does not get fully "clean" air to benefit from. I have a 2003 spec WC wing on my car with the large end plates. I am going to be raising it up (since i dont race it in wc) and will be raising it up and back a couple inches. I'm actually going to calculate the best place for it though, because it really will make a difference.

Here is a quick cad model i did to start doing some tests with different ways to readjust the wing. I'd rather just move it then pay $1000 for a new wing. http://gallery.underclockers.net/albums/6-28-04-at-Pocono/Assembled.jpg

Sorry, to change topic a bit, but what is "WC"?

World Challenge

Erik's car is a race car. Race Seats, wide body, Moton Suspension, GC Sways, lightened up, highly tuned motor, lots of custom work, etc. This car, um, no.

Erik's car is a race car. Race Seats, wide body, Moton Suspension, GC Sways, lightened up, highly tuned motor, lots of custom work, etc. This car, um, no.

Erik who? Who are you replying to?

As far as E36's available, theres a very clean E36 available from Grand Am. This nis taken from bmwcca CR website: "
For Sale: Grand Am Cup / CCA / SCCA E36 328.
Duane Neyer Motorsports #08 BMW 328
· BMW E36 328 Coupe – 2.8 liter Single Vanos – 2550 lbs.
· Run during 2003 with Group N cams and 45mm air restrictor.
· Double adjustable JRZ gas shocks
· Stock Bosch ignition and engine management system
· 4 Sets of 15” BBS wheels available (225/45/15)
· As seen in every BMW CCA Roundel under Korman Autoworks advertisement
· 2000 Motorola Cup Sport Touring Manufacturers Champion
· 2000 Motorola Cup Sport Touring Driver’s Championship - Andy Lally
Car was completely freshened prior to last year's Grand Am finale. About 3 hours total on the new engine. Reinforcement mounting kit installed last spring by our in house professional fabricator. Recent 3rd party inspection completed last week by a local CCA official. Photos and write up available upon request. Car is very fast. 1 year of eligibility left in Grand Am Cup. Great SCCA ITS project car or BMWCCA JP club car. Car must go! Serious inquiries only please.

Contact: John Tecce at Johntecce@adelphia.net or 917/439.3589

Asking mid $20's. Prices are negotiable due to limited spares package
http://bmwccaclubracing.com/forsale/images/tecce1.jpg


And if you are in for a project you can get this e46 motorsports chassis:
http://bmwccaclubracing.com/forsale/images/stevechassis1.jpg $17K

As for expensive toys, E46 motorsport chassis can come in a great form such as this from WCT: $65K loaded
http://bmwccaclubracing.com/forsale/images/sofronas1.jpg

Terry Mccarthy's old WCT car isalso for sale, good price too:
SCCA Pro Racing World Challenge Touring Car. Car purchased from Terry McCarthy Last September. For history of the car go to SCCA pro World challenge web Archives. It has a brand new 2.8l Dave Rebello built race engine. Dyno's at 240 hp to wheels 198 Torque at about 6900 rpms. Has M3 front brakes with Tilton brake system that adjusts Bias. Top of the line Penske 3 way adjustable shocks. Car has a spare motor Dyno's 232hp 190 torque. That was the motor that was in the car. Has SCCA log Book Ready to race.
Contact: Neil at 407-810-4332 or nradloff@cfl.rr.com
$25,000 for car and spare motor
http://bmwccaclubracing.com/forsale/images/radloff1.jpg

For Sale: Grand Am Cup / CCA / SCCA E36 328.
Duane Neyer Motorsports #08 BMW 328.....Great SCCA ITS project car...

328's running in ITS? Now how would you pull that off, considering the threat of performance weight penalties for the "overdog" 325 in ITS?

Its from the ad, not me..all that is quoted ad's. Contact seller for more info.