130MPH GT3 Cup car + 14 quarts synthetic oil on the track = Amazing save by Glen G.


right click and save as, please.

http://www.doubledracing.net/video/GlenSave.mpeg

that was close. Just barely brushed the wall. Very lucky.

Both the car that spun and the RUF that the video is from are very very fast cars. I was there for the club race on Friday and the RUF was unbelievable.

The spin is amazing and it's incredible he kept it off the wall.

Don't try this at home kids. :)

I have video of a guy in a ferrari 355challenge coming up on a porsche at summit point, and the porsche lays down a nice patch of oil which obviously makes the 355ch lose all grip and he slid in the braking zone coming about 1/2 inch (literally) away from smacking the porsche.

Is Glen the guy who spun or the camera car? The spin was impressive. The camera car's save without spinning was more impressive.

It was cool, don't know about impressive...he did save it, but i would have called impressive only if he spun and kept going straight without stopping :) When you see nascar guys do it at 160mph, its pretty impressive ;)

Re: the spin - I didn't mean impressive in a "nice driving" way - he was a passenger. I meant impressive in a "think twice about running on a roval" sort of way...... :)

I like the speed display on the video. What exactly is that...I assume something tied into the speedo?

Re: the spin - I didn't mean impressive in a "nice driving" way - he was a passenger. I meant impressive in a "think twice about running on a roval" sort of way...... :)
Watch again. He comes off the brakes in the first loop when the nose is pointed down hill and throttles is away from the wall some. Not just a passenger. =)

Glen is an amazing driver. Pure driver skill on display there, folks. If any of you Texas folks ever do a PCA event, he is an advance instructor. If you can, get a ride with him. Another guy with probably better skills, if you can imagine that, is another Texan, Jim Buckley.

He might be a great driver, I'm not disputing that, but how you know definitely what he's doing with his feet from that video is a mystery to me. That car is 100% out of control, and it looked like he was lucky not to stuff it in the wall. But opinions are what make internet message boards great, aren't they? ;)

I have video of a guy in a ferrari 355challenge coming up on a porsche at summit point, and the porsche lays down a nice patch of oil which obviously makes the 355ch lose all grip and he slid in the braking zone coming about 1/2 inch (literally) away from smacking the porsche.

hahaha :D ...that's my buddy Jon Kofod in the F355 CH and David Murray (testing in a GT3RS)...that happened on T1 and Jon was telling me he didn't know how the hell they didn't make contact...pretty scary when $100K car potentially meets $150K car :eek ! Anyhow two turns later Murray spun again on T3 because of the oil spewing from the porsche again I think...

He might be a great driver, I'm not disputing that, but how you know definitely what he's doing with his feet from that video is a mystery to me. That car is 100% out of control, and it looked like he was lucky not to stuff it in the wall. But opinions are what make internet message boards great, aren't they? ;)

I don't know what he was doing with his feet, but that was a bloody amazing bit of driving. I wouldn't say that car was 100% out of control because the driver kept that car off the wall. I can't prove it, but I've been in enough spins to know that was driver skill.

He might be a great driver, I'm not disputing that, but how you know definitely what he's doing with his feet from that video is a mystery to me. That car is 100% out of control, and it looked like he was lucky not to stuff it in the wall. But opinions are what make internet message boards great, aren't they? ;)


Scott, you can clearly see his brake lights go out as he approached the wall, and then his rear wheels light up as he downshifted & nailed the throttle to try to pull out of the spin in a direction of his choosing. Which is exactly what he said he did when this was first posted on Rennlist.

Did anyone talk to him right after this to see exactly what he did? Otherwise its all speculation...

It was a spin that was not recovered, but was semi-in-control.

I agree with Scott, maybe if he kept on going and did not stop that would be pretty awesome. But he just spun a couple times across the track, did not seem to be trying to keep it going, just not hit anything. If this was a race, he should also be worried about losing positions and trying to keep it going.

You see this on nascar on ovals all the time...and considering thier cars weigh more and have more power, some of them prove to be very good drivers pulling out of a 160mph spin ;)

Did anyone talk to him right after this to see exactly what he did? Otherwise its all speculation...

It was a spin that was not recovered, but was semi-in-control.




Yes, I spoke with him not long after, as did several folks I know who witnessed this firsthand, and he said that this is EXACTLY what happened:

"Scott, you can clearly see his brake lights go out as he approached the wall, and then his rear wheels light up as he downshifted & nailed the throttle to try to pull out of the spin in a direction of his choosing."

He was in semi-control due to 14 quarts of oil on his Yokohama slicks. Considering that, I'd say it was a heroic save, just as many of the NASCAR ones are, as you correctly point out.

Cool. Yea, it was definintely a good "save" but i guess when you have oilon your tires, its almost impossible to fully recover while still in motion.

He needs one of those reverse thrust flaps from nascar ;) haha

Considering that, I'd say it was a heroic save, just as many of the NASCAR ones are, as you correctly point out.

Oil or no oil, that was a pretty heroic save. I've raced on this track. I got a butt pucker just watching the video. That was nothing short of truly amazing. :buttrock

Oh, and don't try this at home kids, but if he had done the old DE "when you spin, both feet in" he almost certainly would have a lot of spare and crumpled parts right now.

I certainly wouldn't argue with the guy who's ass was in the seat. If that's what he did, he did a nice job. (I still say there was some luck involved, tho :evil2 )

Watch again. He comes off the brakes in the first loop when the nose is pointed down hill and throttles is away from the wall some. Not just a passenger. =)

Wait a second... he throttles it away ???

:bs

Give me a freakin' break. No way!!!

...plus someone said that the driver actually said that he powered out of it? Give me a break on that too.

The guy came on and off the brakes with skill and wherewithall but no way did he "power out of that".

That oil was there already. The white 911 on the left of the track at the very end of the video must have blown it's motor and parked it there. With that true then I'd imagine the cornerworkers would have put up a yelllow on the corner before. I'd like to know how long that oil was there, did the corner workers know, did the corner workers put up a debris flag, did he already race over it onece, etc.

Notice how the guy infront avoided the oil - perhaps he could see it but Glen could not because Glen was following the car in front.

Ralph Warren

Wait a second... he throttles it away ???

:bs

Give me a freakin' break. No way!!!

[WAY]

...plus someone said that the driver actually said that he powered out of it? Give me a break on that too.

[ALL TRUE--HE TOLD ME HIMSELF, AS WELL AS OTHERS WHO WERE THERE IN PERSON]

The guy came on and off the brakes with skill and wherewithall but no way did he "power out of that".

[OH, YES, HE DID; DON'T YOU SEE HIM LIGHTING UP THE REAR TIRES?]

That oil was there already. The white 911 on the left of the track at the very end of the video must have blown it's motor and parked it there. With that true then I'd imagine the cornerworkers would have put up a yelllow on the corner before. [NOPE] I'd like to know how long that oil was there, [ABOUT 10 SECONDS, +/-] did the corner workers know, [THEY DID AFTER EVERYONE BEGAN SPINNING] did the corner workers put up a debris flag, [NOT UNTIL AFTER HE SPUN] did he already race over it onece, etc. [NO, IT HAD JUST HAPPENED RIGHT BEFORE GLAN & THE CAMERA CAR ARRIVED ON THE SCENE]

Notice how the guy infront avoided the oil - perhaps he could see it but Glen could not because Glen was following the car in front. [GLEN COULD NOT DIVE LOW DUE TO TH EPOSITION OF THE 914 HE WAS PASSING; HE STATED TO ME THAT HE HAD TO MAKE AN INSTANT CHOICE: CLOBBER THE 914 OR STAY HIGH & SPIN]

Ralph Warren

Wait a second... he throttles it away ???

:bs

Give me a freakin' break. No way!!!

[WAY]

...plus someone said that the driver actually said that he powered out of it? Give me a break on that too.

[ALL TRUE--HE TOLD ME HIMSELF, AS WELL AS OTHERS WHO WERE THERE IN PERSON]

The guy came on and off the brakes with skill and wherewithall but no way did he "power out of that".

[OH, YES, HE DID; DON'T YOU SEE HIM LIGHTING UP THE REAR TIRES?]

That oil was there already. The white 911 on the left of the track at the very end of the video must have blown it's motor and parked it there. With that true then I'd imagine the cornerworkers would have put up a yelllow on the corner before. [NOPE] I'd like to know how long that oil was there, [ABOUT 10 SECONDS, +/-] did the corner workers know, [THEY DID AFTER EVERYONE BEGAN SPINNING] did the corner workers put up a debris flag, [NOT UNTIL AFTER HE SPUN] did he already race over it onece, etc. [NO, IT HAD JUST HAPPENED RIGHT BEFORE GLAN & THE CAMERA CAR ARRIVED ON THE SCENE]

Notice how the guy infront avoided the oil - perhaps he could see it but Glen could not because Glen was following the car in front. [GLEN COULD NOT DIVE LOW DUE TO TH EPOSITION OF THE 914 HE WAS PASSING; HE STATED TO ME THAT HE HAD TO MAKE AN INSTANT CHOICE: CLOBBER THE 914 OR STAY HIGH & SPIN]

Ralph Warren


Your joking right? He was 100% locked up waiting for impact. Don't believe everything you hear. Believe what you see and I see a very lucky guy who was just along for the ride.

Your joking right? He was 100% locked up waiting for impact. Don't believe everything you hear. Believe what you see and I see a very lucky guy who was just along for the ride.


Baloney, sparky. Look again. Brake lights go out well before he brushes wall. That is when he downshifted & nailed throttle (causing rear tires to light up).

I will believe Glen, whose integrity is unquestioned in my experience, and whose driving skills are at the pro level (I have ridden in his Cup car's right seat), well before I will believe some twinkie who does not even know the difference between "your" and "you're".

Duh.

:nono

Even Glen would agree there is a touch of luck in such a save. But the fact remains that Glen made his own luck. He drove himself out of that, plain and simple. If he was relying purely on luck he would have left a nice black streak along the wall.

Baloney, sparky. Look again. Brake lights go out well before he brushes wall. That is when he downshifted & nailed throttle (causing rear tires to light up).

I will believe Glen, whose integrity is unquestioned in my experience, and whose driving skills are at the pro level (I have ridden in his Cup car's right seat), well before I will believe some twinkie who does not even know the difference between "your" and "you're".

Duh.

:nono

"Twinkie".... lol
Cyber Bully.

Even Glen would agree there is a touch of luck in such a save. But the fact remains that Glen made his own luck. He drove himself out of that, plain and simple. If he was relying purely on luck he would have left a nice black streak along the wall.


Yes, you are right. he readily acknowledges that there was a LOT of luck at play here...not the least of which was his ability to find a smidgen of traction in all that oil!

who is this 'Glen' dude...some Grand Am or ALMS driver? Looked to me like there was luck involved perhaps mixed in with some split second decision making and skill... if it's pure skill this guy's a helluva driver but looks to me like luck played a big part....either way he kept it off the wall so way to go for Glen :buttrock ...that we can all agree on is a very good thing!

I had a cross track excursion at Watkins glen once exiting the laces of the boot...went clear accross track and prevented the car from tagging the blue armco by driving it sideways on the strip of grass between the track and the armco with steering and throttle for like half the distance between the laces and the toe of the boot, from within a couple of feet from the armco the entire time!! Afterwards a corner worker came to me and commented "good job, way to save the car!" - I couldn't help but think to myself that yes, I tried controlling the car as best I could and this time I won, not the track....but I was also definately very lucky :)

Naw, he is a PCA club racer, Sunir...and a VERY good one. IMO, he would be very competitive in ALMS or Grand Am...but his day job & finances preclude it.

Naw, he is a PCA club racer, Sunir...and a VERY good one. IMO, he would be very competitive in ALMS or Grand Am...but his day job & finances preclude it.


I hear that bro, man I don't think there's a single one of us that would say "no" to a GA or ALMS ride if we could! Like I said, he kept it off the wall and that's the bottom line, in fact I'm sure to Glen that's what really matters in this whole thing when it all comes down to it:) ...we all have wrecked and know what it's like, and likewise I think we've all had a few saves now and again, some probably more than others...Glen I'm sure is a great driver :alright

Okay, I finally get my DSL fixed and now the video isn't available???? Anyone know what's up??

i cant see vid either :(

Will it be back up?

Okay, it's actually still up... they just changed the name of the file. Just go to http://doubledracing.net and get it directly! :D

Okay, I've been watching the vids on that site... very cool. :D

But, does anyone know what happened in the "Seth Meyers wrecked at Summit Point" video??? It seems like maybe someone tried to go too deep on the inside of Seth and smacked him??? That's my best guess anyway...

I saw the video a while back when mel first posted it. From what i remember I think it was an E30 that just smacked into him at like 90mph. Not sure if he lost his brakes or just lost control. but it was a big impact. Thankfully everyone was ok (from what I remember anyways).

can anyone post the new link?>

I couldn't even get on the main site. :dunno

I couldn't even get on the main site. :dunno

You can't even get here? http://doubledracing.net/

You can't even get here? http://doubledracing.net/
"Page cannot be displayed."

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It times out everytime.

61mb for 16 seconds of footage?? :eek: :eek:

It's time someone discovered DivX and/or WMV and the joys of 1500kbps video encoding.

Well, I'm not an expert by any means, but why the hell didn't he go both feet in after the first 90 degrees of spin??

He would have missed the wall by more (his trajectory is slightly away from the wall at that point) and wouldn't have sent himself across the track like an HPDE rookie.

I'm sure that some of the racers here will chime in, but I guarantee you that this guy preaches 'both feet in' when he's instructing to prevent exactly what happened here - a car shooting across the track and into someone else's path.

I hate to say it, but if he had been t-boned after backing across the track, all of us would be saying how stupid this guy was to try to save it.

Just my observation.

Chris

Hell I haven't raced at all but I can chime in. It's called instinct, fear, reaction, etc. We all watch this movie and say, 'oh he should have done this!!'. But how many of us, under those conditions, with zero warning time, could have handled it that well? I'm guessing next to none since we aren't in his class :)

Well, I'm not an expert by any means, but why the hell didn't he go both feet in after the first 90 degrees of spin??

He would have missed the wall by more (his trajectory is slightly away from the wall at that point) and wouldn't have sent himself across the track like an HPDE rookie.

I'm sure that some of the racers here will chime in, but I guarantee you that this guy preaches 'both feet in' when he's instructing to prevent exactly what happened here - a car shooting across the track and into someone else's path.

I hate to say it, but if he had been t-boned after backing across the track, all of us would be saying how stupid this guy was to try to save it.

Just my observation.

Chris

If he had put both feet in, the car would have been balled up. There is NO way both feet in would have kept the car off the wall.

I wouldn't have called him stupid for trying to save it if he got t-boned. Both feet in is good for beginners and DE. It makes the path of the car predictable. But it's not the end-all when spinning.

I think people are trying to come from different viewpoints.

Its one thing to avoid causing an accident while spinning, but its another to try to recover to stay in the race. If you recover from the spin (i.e. keep going without coming to a stop or in a ditch/sand), then you possibly could have made someone else swerve, and maybe they ended up in the sand trap, or you could have had a recovery from a spin and kept on going.

He did avoid hitting the wall, thats one thing that some of you guys are defending. But, if we are talking about having this be an amazing manuever, i would have to disagree, as he went spinning across the track. While we can say, "well if you were in that situation you would have not thought to do this and that...," however The reason we train/practice is to have instinct, and to have a reaction come to us without even having to put much immediate thought into it.

Eitherway, he avoided a big accident, and came out safe...thats the most important! If he recovered, kept going without losing a position, that would show he has exceptional skill.

Keep making noise, and not backing it up you whores! :P

What are you talking about? You think no one here has been in that type of situation before and we're all talking out of our asses? A lot of people here are speaking from experience.

Yea, I don't think he realized this guy was doing a club race, and pro's talk on the board ;)

<- poor impulse control.

Didn't mean to offend anyone. ;)

"Page cannot be displayed."

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It times out everytime.
Try again, please. What browser are you using?

You guys are a bunch of bandwidth animals. I changed the name to break hotlinks because I was getting leeched for ~5GB of transfer per day on that file. Looking at the refering pages, it seems that the video was hotlinked to a couple places. I'm glad to host and share the video, but not glad to host content for other peoples sites! (Well, I offer inexpensive webhosting, but that's a tad different.)

As for the folks wondering about Glen...I've met him once at a PCA DE at MSR. He had some kind of bet going with the grid marshal about being able to get me to spin. We did finally spin at Big Bend, but only because a P-car dropped antifreeze just past the start of the curbing at apex. He was completely cool about it...head completely on his shoulders...nothing new to him. If someone was to claim having had the presence of mind to pull that off, it would have to be someone like Glen.

Site no worky. It done got broked for me.

Using IE6.

Site no worky. It done got broked for me.

Using IE6.

You trying it from home? or from work where you will likely be be behind a corporate firewall?

From home. I don't have problems with any other sites.

I take it nobody else is having problems loading the site?

yea its not working for me either

yea its not working for me either
Can you guys see www.klkservices.com ?

yes, i can

OK. Can you see www.klkservices.com/~doubled ?

Those sites are on the same box. If one works, so does the other. Dunno what to tell you. Your ISP's DNS could be messed up or something.