View Full Version : Post pics of your (soon to be) sweet 2002s!


ScottiGee
08-04-2004, 11:45 AM
I'm pre-project, myself. I'd just like to see what everyone else is working on.
OR if you know of any sites with pictures of some sweet 2002's with swaps, snails nice bodywork/paint, or just all around awesome projects I'd love to see them!
Post 'em up!

HarryPR
08-05-2004, 09:54 AM
You can see pics all day long at this site :
http://www.2002bmw.com

For the best 2002 restoration site go here :

Keith Kreeger's site (http://www.my2002tii.com/)

More 2002 info and links :

2002FAQ (http://www.bmw2002faq.com/)

And here are my '02's :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/bonkosky/IM000877.jpg
Ludwig - '76 with Weber 38/38, 0.50 overbore with 9.5 :1 pistons, E21 5 speed, Stahl header, Bilstein Sports, Eibachs, recaros, E30 is wheels w/ Yokos, etc...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/bonkosky/agnes1.jpg

Agnes - '76 Automatic project car

HTH,
HarryPR

ScottiGee
08-05-2004, 11:27 AM
She's a beaut!

steve k.
08-05-2004, 04:03 PM
ok, here is mine.

it's a dedicated autocrosser. all info about the car is at
http://www.kgb-racing.com/images/ax/SFAutoShow.pdf

http://www.kgb-racing.com/images/ax/ax070403_5.jpg

http://www.kgb-racing.com/images/ax/pro/ProSolo-Apr24-2004_1.jpg

http://www.kgb-racing.com/images/tour/sd2004/sd11.jpg

HarryPR
08-05-2004, 04:28 PM
What, no pics of the Yellow Truck????? :D

Leif E. Bronn
08-05-2004, 05:03 PM
Here are mine. The Silver one is going to be a track car when I finish with the body work and get a cage. The shell was going to be used as the racecar but I don't feel like messing with it so I'm going to save the fenders and get rid of the rest.

Pictures of the widebody can be seen at
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leif_bronn/album?.dir=/ddfb&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leif_bronn/my_photos

steve k.
08-05-2004, 05:34 PM
What, no pics of the Yellow Truck????? :D

ok, just for Harry


http://www.kgb-racing.com/images/temp/truck/DSC02074.JPG

http://www.kgb-racing.com/images/tour/sd2004/sd01.jpg

http://www.kgb-racing.com/images/tour/sd2004/sd03.jpg

ScottiGee
08-05-2004, 05:35 PM
Man...awesome. I need a garage bad!!

steve k.
08-05-2004, 05:37 PM
Man...awesome. I need a garage bad!!

haha, i need a house. My cars are parked on the street at the moment. painfull.

steve .

ScottiGee
08-05-2004, 05:40 PM
yeah but you have that awesome dog to guard them!

blakpuc
08-05-2004, 07:25 PM
heres a few...
http://lunarchk.com/blakpuc/022104marin02.jpg
http://lunarchk.com/blakpuc/022104rear.jpg
http://lunarchk.com/blakpuc/022104sunrise.jpg

steve k.
08-05-2004, 08:23 PM
yeah but you have that awesome dog to guard them!
that's not even my dog :)

Johnny B
08-07-2004, 01:42 PM
that's not even my dog :)

But that bitch knows a good thing when she see's one ;)

M20Curtis
08-09-2004, 11:19 PM
Here is my Inka '72 M20 car always in progress for bigger and better things...

Curtis
Orlando, FL

NAKPower
08-11-2004, 07:08 AM
That thing is really nice....looks like it is in decent condition too.....lets see some more pics.

M20Curtis
08-12-2004, 06:04 PM
Here's some more pics... and thanks for the compliment!

Curtis

steve k.
08-12-2004, 06:37 PM
Here's some more pics... and thanks for the compliment!

Curtis

i have another high resolution picture of Curtis' car. But there is something very destracting blocking some of it :)

steve k.

Matt
08-12-2004, 07:21 PM
i have another high resolution picture of Curtis' car. But there is something very destracting blocking some of it :)

steve k.
I remember those!!!

Post it, that kinda stuff is allowed here.

Matt

POP3Y3
08-20-2004, 09:52 AM
well, 1 more week and i go to pick up my first '02 in VA. i have had 2 bavaria's in the past, which have been great, but '02 is a dream car for me. hopefully it is what i am expecting and that i get it home safely. future plans include, but not limited to, shortening the bumpers, 5 speed, some minor rust repair, paint job (fjord blue hopefully). the car has 128,000, the engine has 34,000 from new. the seats redone, carpet and headliner replaced. Ansa exhaust. Eibach springs and struts in frnt, Bilstien in back. some brake stuff done. i just want to get it home. this has been the longest month i think i have ever had!

<img src=http://www.toobjob.com/bmw/dsc01650.jpg>
<img src=http://www.toobjob.com/bmw/dsc01648.jpg>
<img src=http://www.toobjob.com/bmw/dsc01652.jpg>
<img src=http://www.toobjob.com/bmw/dsc01653.jpg>
<img src=http://www.toobjob.com/bmw/dsc01654.jpg>

mikeyz325
08-24-2004, 08:42 PM
My 74...click link (http://northstarbmw.org/mkp.aspx) for more pictures..


http://northstarbmw.org/mkp/742002-03P4040111.jpg (http://northstarbmw.org/mkp.aspx)

HarryPR
08-25-2004, 09:23 AM
Congrats on a sweet ride, Mike!

love the cafe-racer look with the turbo body kit....

mikeyz325
08-25-2004, 06:25 PM
Thanks! I like it too =]

ScottiGee
08-25-2004, 07:25 PM
so mikeyz...if you were to smooth out the flare/fender joint would you just bondo it? Or grind it down, prime and repaint?
Have you thought about doing this?

TheDudeZona
08-30-2004, 08:03 PM
I need 100 posts for an avatar

mikeyz325
08-30-2004, 08:26 PM
so mikeyz...if you were to smooth out the flare/fender joint would you just bondo it? Or grind it down, prime and repaint?
Have you thought about doing this?

Hmm..never thought of it. I think if I wanted smooth flares I'd get the Schnitzer style probably and save some work that frankly I don't have the skill to do =[ . The original Turbo also had the flares just bolted onto the side. Here is a pictures of another guy in MN who has some very custom looking flares, looks liek these might have started as the schnitzer style and evolved from there:

p.s. anyone know where I can find some wide, deep dish basketweaves, I really want to fill out my flares..

http://www.northstarbmw.com/mempix/PB200010.JPG

Leif E. Bronn
08-31-2004, 09:33 AM
Those flares are Alpina flares, Schnitzer and Zender made only box style flares (E30 M3 style) as far I as I know.

ScottiGee
08-31-2004, 10:23 AM
know where I can find some wide, deep dish basketweaves,


I know a guy in Minnesota....

Your boltons are better than without, but the flares on the MN guy's car are the shiznit. That would be the route I go....

mikeyz325
08-31-2004, 06:08 PM
I know a guy in Minnesota....

Your boltons are better than without, but the flares on the MN guy's car are the shiznit. That would be the route I go....

You know a guy with wheels, or just know a guy in MN?



So those are Alpina style eh? I think my favorite are still the boxed Schnitzer style.

ScottiGee
08-31-2004, 06:44 PM
Sorry mikey...I don't even think I know anybody in MN....that was a little joke because you posted that pic and it appeared he had the wheels you were asking about

Here is a pictures of another guy in MN ....

I really dig that guy's flares. Alpina's.....(writing on Xmas list....)

mikeyz325
08-31-2004, 07:39 PM
Sorry mikey...I don't even think I know anybody in MN....that was a little joke because you posted that pic and it appeared he had the wheels you were asking about

oh.....HAHAHA :) I get it now, I know this guy and i don't think he is selling anytime soon. I have first dibs if he ever sells the car. he says it is "20 footer" thats needs some attention. it has a turbo and an E12 head, dual 45 DCOEs.

ScottiGee
09-01-2004, 01:55 PM
Sweet jeebus...there's more body kit than car
http://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre5/bmw/2002/turbo_schnitzer/1977_bmw_2002_turbo_schnitzer_03_m.jpg

ScottiGee
09-01-2004, 02:17 PM
Where do you guys buy your body kits / panels / flares from?
Are they urethane?

steve k.
09-01-2004, 03:04 PM
Where do you guys buy your body kits / panels / flares from?
Are they urethane?

some are impossible to find and no longer exist. You can turbo flares in ABS plastic and the front spoiler from Ireland Engineering at www.bmw2002.com They also have Alpina style bubble flares that are fiberglass. You can also pick up fiberglass hood and trunk. All this stuff is race quality. As in you will need a lot of work to make it look good a show car. Simmilar stuff is also available form Korman. Dont have their site on hand at the moment.

If you do Turbo flares use the rubber trim, it looks a lot better then without.

steve k.

Leif E. Bronn
09-01-2004, 03:11 PM
Simmilar stuff is also available form Korman. Dont have their site on hand at the moment.


www.kormanfastbmw.com

ScottiGee
09-01-2004, 05:06 PM
Nice - thanks. Between Korman and Ireland I think I will be able to piece something together.

Steve - when you say "will require a lot of work" do you just mean priming or is the fit sometimes less-than-awesome on these panels?

Leif E. Bronn
09-01-2004, 05:22 PM
If you are interested in some Zender box fenders I might me selling mine soon, email me if interested.

Leif

ScottiGee
09-01-2004, 05:31 PM
If you are interested in some Zender box fenders I might me selling mine soon, email me if interested.

Leif

Oooh...man I hope stuff like this crops up once I actually have a garage and a car to work on.
Sorry Leif but I'm just doing my research right now. I'll check back in a year ;)
Thanks

EDIT - why does the winky guy throw a kiss too? how gay is that?! MODS! Please Heterocize the winky guy. And what the hell is this?!:69

Leif E. Bronn
09-01-2004, 11:14 PM
Oooh...man I hope stuff like this crops up once I actually have a garage and a car to work on.
Sorry Leif but I'm just doing my research right now. I'll check back in a year ;)
Thanks

EDIT - why does the winky guy throw a kiss too? how gay is that?! MODS! Please Heterocize the winky guy. And what the hell is this?!:69

Well, I might still have them when you are looking because I'm still not sure if I'm going to sell them and they are still connected to my car on the bottom because I'm not sure where to cut so I don't mess up the fiberglass. Whenever you find a garage and a car let me know and I might sell them.

ScottiGee
09-02-2004, 10:54 AM
Well, I might still have them when you are looking because I'm still not sure if I'm going to sell them and they are still connected to my car on the bottom because I'm not sure where to cut so I don't mess up the fiberglass. Whenever you find a garage and a car let me know and I might sell them.

Sweet ... thanks!
How's your car coming? Are the pics on yahoo pretty up-to-date?
When you go with flares or a widebody kit does the stock weelbase width look bad? Does anyone go with longer axels, modified control arms, or anyhing like that?

steve k.
09-02-2004, 02:52 PM
Sweet ... thanks!
How's your car coming? Are the pics on yahoo pretty up-to-date?
When you go with flares or a widebody kit does the stock weelbase width look bad? Does anyone go with longer axels, modified control arms, or anyhing like that?

wider wheels and tires is what you need here!

steve


http://www.kgb-racing.com/images/ax/ax082904_4.jpg

ScottiGee
09-02-2004, 04:11 PM
wider wheels and tires is what you need here!

Well that's good news - makes it easier. What do you recommend? 215 tire on a 7" wide wheel?
what is the offset?

ScottiGee
09-02-2004, 04:23 PM
Wow this guy's kit is sweet....
http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/data/2/14884sweet_blue-med.jpg

Leif E. Bronn
09-02-2004, 04:30 PM
The pics on yahoo are from about a year ago and the only thing that changed so for is the widebody is cut up a bit.

You definatly need wider wheels with any sort of flares. I have 205 on a 7" on the front and 225 on an 8" on the rear.

I can never remember the offset needed for the wider wheels because I got my wheels used form a guy who had turbo flares so I knew they would fit.

M20Curtis
09-03-2004, 03:35 AM
Hey Steve can you post any pics you have of my car with girls for me? I don't have them on this computer. I will be getting more of those type of shots hopefully next weekend with my two friends (www.bartontwins.com). You all will enjoy them!

Curtis

steve k.
09-03-2004, 06:53 PM
Hey Steve can you post any pics you have of my car with girls for me? I don't have them on this computer. I will be getting more of those type of shots hopefully next weekend with my two friends (www.bartontwins.com). You all will enjoy them!

Curtis

let me look them up. i have one which i use as my desktop

steve k.
09-03-2004, 06:55 PM
Well that's good news - makes it easier. What do you recommend? 215 tire on a 7" wide wheel?
what is the offset?

i run 225/45R13 Hossier tires (in realityt they are closer to 240) on a 13x7.5 wheel with 25mm offset. But i need 1/4 inch spacers in the rear and 1/2 inch in front.

steve k

steve k.
09-03-2004, 08:52 PM
Hey Steve can you post any pics you have of my car with girls for me? I don't have them on this computer. I will be getting more of those type of shots hopefully next weekend with my two friends (www.bartontwins.com). You all will enjoy them!

Curtis

i only found one

http://www.kgb-racing.com/temp/curtisisapimp.jpg

Matt
09-04-2004, 12:19 AM
I've got a new background. Thanks, Steve and Curtis.

Matt

SilverBeam
09-07-2004, 01:18 AM
circle tails > square tails

but these are some fine deuces you guys have :buttrock

ScottiGee
09-07-2004, 10:57 AM
i run 225/45R13 Hossier tires (in realityt they are closer to 240) on a 13x7.5 wheel with 25mm offset. But i need 1/4 inch spacers in the rear and 1/2 inch in front.

steve k

45 a/r on a 13" wheel?! Does that match the OEM OD of the wheel? Or are you giving yourself quicker spin-up for auto-X? Seems lo-pro for 13"

What were the OEM wheel/tire sizes?


Oh, and not to sound like a homo - that chick is hot and all - but I'd like to see more of that orange '02!

M20Curtis
09-08-2004, 10:01 AM
Haha, ok, well I am having a professional professional photo shoot done Friday (in two days) so after that I will have a bunch more hopefully. They will have two models with the car too but I'm sure it will have lots of car only pics too. Glad to hear I am not the only one that notices the car in the pic with a girl blocking it when friends show me pics like this. Anyways, I'll be back in a few days with new pics.

Curtis

steve k.
09-08-2004, 01:25 PM
45 a/r on a 13" wheel?! Does that match the OEM OD of the wheel? Or are you giving yourself quicker spin-up for auto-X? Seems lo-pro for 13"

What were the OEM wheel/tire sizes?


Oh, and not to sound like a homo - that chick is hot and all - but I'd like to see more of that orange '02!

the diameter is no longer the same as stock. Teh original tires were somethign like 165/80R13

I do get a much wider patch. Going to 225/50R13 also increase the diameter.

steve k.

95cosmom3
09-27-2004, 02:24 AM
wow, all hail old school! 2002's rock! :buttrock

dzlnitro
10-22-2004, 10:08 PM
Dude my consumer auto teacher has the illest 2002 to, its in mint condition, lowered, and he puta E30 M3 fuel injected engine into it, its so freaking fast.

LIP277
10-22-2004, 11:43 PM
Here's what is in my garage now....

http://www.bmwpugetsound.com/member_cars/khill_2002.jpg

I've had it 20+ years and other than the bottlecaps, it looks pretty much as I had it in 1986.
I added the Zender spoiler, Cibie Z-Beams and driving lights and some fun interior bits.

Running gear:
Urethane front bushings, 38DGAS Weber, 9.5:1 CR, Pertronix Ignitor and coil...

That's pretty much it.
235,000 miles on it..... Still my favorite car to drive.

mikeyz325
10-23-2004, 02:26 AM
sweeet =]

crotter
10-23-2004, 02:02 PM
very awesome rides! I need to get an '02!

Ohtwo
11-02-2004, 09:17 PM
Nice cars everyone. Mines not quite a show car, but it's not bad.

Al Canuck
11-03-2004, 03:41 AM
Plenty of pics of my 76 2002 on my site, along with a host of client's 02's as well. Here's a couple quick ones of mine though.

Al
http://www.seamsperfect.ca/images/Als_02/alpostsuspension.jpg
http://www.seamsperfect.ca/images/Als_seats/alfrontseatsdone2.jpg

More pics at my site - www.SeamsPerfect.ca

JettaGLXdriver
11-03-2004, 09:21 AM
Very nice.. I just checked out the seamsperfect site.. Looks to be a good source. I just got mine home last night and its got more important tasks that need done before I spend $ on carpet.. LOL

http://swankhouse.com/ipw-web/gallery/albums/album19/bmw2.sized.jpg

ScottiGee
11-03-2004, 11:23 AM
Al Canuck - you do great work!!!

Al Canuck
11-03-2004, 08:22 PM
Thanx for the kind words on the site, guys. We strive for perfection here, whether it be a simple nylon carpet set, or a full tilt, ground up 2002 restoration. Watch for some new projects we're working on as well!

Al

WTA123
11-03-2004, 08:35 PM
You really do amazing work. Is that interior completely remade? It extremely beautiful :round

Al Canuck
11-03-2004, 10:31 PM
The only thing that has not been done to the interior is the headliner. That will get done when the glass come out this winter. Seats are completely rebuilt 320is Recaros, with rebuilt 02 back seat, new wool square weave carpet, and brand new door panels, built from scratch. I also used 75sq.ft. of B Quiet Xtreme sound deadener, and 3 yards of 42oz. underlay under the carpets. We can build, and ship any items in that interior, or whatever else you can dream of.

Al

LIP277
11-03-2004, 10:50 PM
Man.....

And to think this used to be an "Al Canuck" free zone.

:lol

I think you need another car. One that is left hand drive though. Just to fit in.

:eyecrazy

Al Canuck
11-03-2004, 11:51 PM
Man.....

And to think this used to be an "Al Canuck" free zone.

:lol

I think you need another car. One that is left hand drive though. Just to fit in.

:eyecrazy

I never even knew this place existed until I bought that right hooker E21. Someone one the E21 board sent me here. Sorry Kevin!

I think I have more than enough cars to fit in though. Here's thelist at my shop as I write this:

67 1600 - SOLD
71 2002 - parts
72 2002 - parts
73 2002 - Resto for client
76 2002 - summer toy
81 323i - new summer toy - RIGHT HAND DRIVE!!! :cool
85 535i - daily cruiser

Soon to arrives, and oddballs:

70 3.0cs - Resto for client
89 Pontiac Sunduck - FOR SALE - Belongs to a friend who just bought a new truck. This baby has ONLY 460000km on it! We think GM should give him a new Corvette for free because of that!

inka2k2
11-04-2004, 06:05 PM
hey every one i finaly figured out how to shrink my pictures to post them. here is one for now. this is my 1975 2002 that i have been working on for some time now...lemme know what you think

euro96
11-04-2004, 06:08 PM
i love the old racers

euro96
11-04-2004, 06:26 PM
hey inka---thats beautiful!!

ScottiGee
11-04-2004, 07:11 PM
yeah phat whip inka

inka2k2
11-05-2004, 03:11 AM
thanks you guys i really enjoy positive feed back...i also like constructive critisicim thanks a lot

WTA123
11-05-2004, 08:55 PM
Hey inka that is a nice car. Mines looks just like it except its verona red

BimmerCS
11-24-2004, 10:55 PM
Beautiful cars everyone, I was so close to purchasing a 74 2002 last year, but i ended up with this guy, Don't get me wrong, i'm not complaining,and i don't regret it one bit, but i'll have a 2002 soon to complete my craving. You either love em, or you hate em, I love em!

mikeyz325
11-24-2004, 11:20 PM
Beautiful cars everyone, I was so close to purchasing a 74 2002 last year, but i ended up with this guy, Don't get me wrong, i'm not complaining,and i don't regret it one bit, but i'll have a 2002 soon to complete my craving. You either love em, or you hate em, I love em!

Nice 3.0......I gotta get me one of those too

Echo
11-25-2004, 12:47 AM
For those of you who haven't seen my posts, this is my newly acquired track car project! I alread have a few toys for it that i need to install :evil2

http://e21.tricord.cjb.net/members/Echo/resize%20512.JPG

http://e21.tricord.cjb.net/members/Echo/rufus%207.JPG

Ohtwo
11-25-2004, 10:43 PM
Updated pics: I cleaned it up a bit. Ill post more pics once I get my BBS wheels and new tires on it.

http://tinypic.com/nza8i

http://tinypic.com/nzadk

http://tinypic.com/nzakg

http://tinypic.com/nzatc

http://tinypic.com/nzv9d

Those wires dont hang from the dash anymore.

Come on guys post pics, ugly or pretty.

Al Canuck
11-26-2004, 03:34 AM
Danger Will Robinson! That E30 sport wheel is a fine spline unit, and your 02 is a course spline car. Get that thing off of there, ASAP.

Al

Echo
11-26-2004, 01:22 PM
Danger Will Robinson! That E30 sport wheel is a fine spline unit, and your 02 is a course spline car. Get that thing off of there, ASAP.

Al

Al, thats not necessarily true... SOME e30 sport wheels were made in course spline. They are quite rare and still command a high price. If that is a course spline wheel, its a hell of a find!

Ohtwo
11-26-2004, 08:57 PM
According to the paper that came with the car, Its a "535 M Style steering wheel."

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=264852&page=2&pp=25 Its the second pic of the paper.

Is that wheel compatible with my car?

Al Canuck
11-26-2004, 11:54 PM
They used that wheel in E30, E28, and E24 models, from late 85 onwards. All of those wheels were fine spline, and do not work on an 02. The course spline E30 sport wheel does not look like that. You need to get it off your car. If my 535 was a late 85 or newer, I would offer to buy it from you, but sadly, mine is an earlier model with course spline.

Al

Ohtwo
11-27-2004, 12:13 AM
That wheel has been on the car since '91. From this cars setup, it seemed like the PO knew what he was doing, especially since he worked at a BMW dealer. Wouldnt the spline be garbage after 14k miles?

Your probaly right, but its going to cost me some time and money to do a swap. I understand you are helping me, but can you give me some kind of proof? I dont think I am going to pull my wheel and buy a new one just off of what one person said. I hope you understand what I mean and dont take offense.

BTW I appreciate your help, thanks.

mikeyz325
11-27-2004, 12:25 AM
Fine spline, coarse spline? I think I know what you're talking about, but could someone fill me in?

Ohtwo
11-27-2004, 12:34 AM
Where the steering wheel connects to the steering column. Thats my understanding. The steering wheel and the steering column have interlocking teeth. Fine spline has smaller teeth, and coarse spline has bigger teeth. If they arent the same size, one or both will strip. The last time I looked at that part of a car, I was probaly 12, so I dont remember, and could be wrong.

I think the end of your distributor is a spline.

Al Canuck
11-27-2004, 01:25 AM
Early steerig wheel spline (32 spline) BMW used this spline until lat 85.
http://www.users.tpg.com.au/schrick/Suspension_files/Course%20Spline.jpg

Late 85- onward spline
http://www.users.tpg.com.au/schrick/Suspension_files/Fine%20spline.jpg

That wheel that you have was used on E24 M6's, E28 M5's, E30 M3's, and some of the other factory sport models like the 535is, 325is, and maybe the 325es. All those cars were built after the late 85 cutoff.

Al - BTDT, more than once. I have a couple of nice fine spline wheels, but all 4 of my BMW's are course spline.

Ohtwo
11-27-2004, 10:20 PM
Shouldn't my spline have stripped already, especially without power steering? I would need a wheel puller to get that wheel off right?

It looks like it would be possible to swap splines between two wheels. Those screws must serve some purpose.

BimmerCS
11-27-2004, 10:46 PM
those screws just hold the metal ring for the horn contact.

Ohtwo
11-27-2004, 11:25 PM
Anyone agree with AL? I posted on FAQ, but I didnt get any responses. I still dont see how it would be fine after 10-15k miles and 14 or so years.

LIP277
11-28-2004, 12:17 AM
It's probably just jammed in there and 'stuck' for lack of a better way to say it. If the splines are different between the shaft and the wheel, I'd say leave it alone unless there's a reason to take it apart. If you take it apart you may never get them back in again (securely) as the splines are likely going to be damaged.

Opinion anyway and YMMV as usual.....

Ohtwo
11-28-2004, 02:15 AM
Ok, thanks guys, I appreciate the help, even if your giving me bad news. I need to pull the wheel in the near future when I try to figure out whats wrong with my highbeams. If the splines really are different, I'll just tack weld it in place.

What does "YMMA" mean?

LIP277
11-28-2004, 03:28 AM
YMMV

Your
Mileage
May
Vary.....

Meaning-
It works for me, but your're on your own. :)

Ohtwo
11-28-2004, 02:54 PM
Ohh. K

Al Canuck
11-28-2004, 03:17 PM
Please don't tack weld the steering wheel in place. Remove the fine spline, and then install a correct wheel for the car. Your splines may not be damaged yet, but they will be eventually, after you remove the wheel a couple times. Also, they may strip off if they are ever subjected to a good high load like making an emergency maneuver. Bottom line is, a spline is supposed to match up, period. Having it any other way is dangerous, and rather foolish. Kevin, you're an engineer, please "steer" the guy straight, wouldn't you?

Al

Ohtwo
11-28-2004, 08:07 PM
I need to pull the wheel soon, so Ill take it from there.

LIP277
11-29-2004, 03:45 AM
Kevin, you're an engineer, please "steer" the guy straight, wouldn't you?

Al

Uhhh...

Yes -
But if it doesn't have 4 jet engines and wings, I'm keeping my mouth shut! :D

But seriously - I've never seen the situation where a steering wheel has been mis-installed, so I don't know how goofed up (technical term) the splines would be in this instance.
The good thing is there 'should' be plenty of wrecking yards with steering columns available if/when a new one would be needed.....

The other thing is that maybe the steering wheel has been adapted to actually 'fit' correctly and we just don't know it (until it's pulled.....) and then all bets are off.

Ohtwo
11-29-2004, 03:41 PM
Uhhh...

Yes -
But if it doesn't have 4 jet engines and wings, I'm keeping my mouth shut! :D

But seriously - I've never seen the situation where a steering wheel has been mis-installed, so I don't know how goofed up (technical term) the splines would be in this instance.
The good thing is there 'should' be plenty of wrecking yards with steering columns available if/when a new one would be needed.....

The other thing is that maybe the steering wheel has been adapted to actually 'fit' correctly and we just don't know it (until it's pulled.....) and then all bets are off.

Yea, the guy who built my car didnt cut corners and slap it together. I dont see how it could have been mis-installed either. I dont think the splines would mesh, and it would definatly be noticable. When I take it apart to fix my high beams, I will decide what to do.

BTW, I dont think theres many 2002's in my local junkyards, if any.

Al Canuck
11-29-2004, 05:59 PM
Unfortunately, it's not that easy to just convert the splines. You would have to machine them out, and then install new ones somehow. Maybe install some type of pressed in steel insert like a nutsert, but with splines? Would be a helluva lot of work, just to fit a junkyard steering wheel. Sorry dude, but my guess is that he crammed it on, and said "good enough".

Here's something to ponder. Those are nice steering wheels, and easily available. If they fit an 02 without any big hassles, wouldn't lots more people have them? I've been around 02's for 11 years now, and have been to 02 fests up and down the west coast, not to mention hanging out on the 02 internet sites since 97, but yours is the first one 02 I've ever seen with that wheel in it! The E21 320is wheel is the direct upgrade.

On a final note, I did once buy an E21 with your wheel in it. It was a course spline E21, and that was a fine spline wheel. Someone did cram it on.

Al

ScottiGee
11-29-2004, 07:08 PM
Has anyone seen companies like Momo making quick release steering wheel hub kits that fit 2002's?

Ohtwo
11-29-2004, 11:03 PM
Ok, well its going to be coming off soon anyway.

Bluntheadtrauma
12-01-2004, 12:16 AM
Has anyone seen companies like Momo making quick release steering wheel hub kits that fit 2002's?

I HAVE A TC KLINE QUICK RELEASE IN MY E30. ITS COMPATIBLE WITH MOMO HUBS AND IS MADE NICELY. NO SLOP. ITS A TWIN TAPER DESIGN THAT FITS VERY NICE

Echo
12-01-2004, 02:12 AM
I HAVE A TC KLINE QUICK RELEASE IN MY E30. ITS COMPATIBLE WITH MOMO HUBS AND IS MADE NICELY. NO SLOP. ITS A TWIN TAPER DESIGN THAT FITS VERY NICE

Wow, easy with the caps lock there buddy...

However, thats good to know. Thanks!

Al Canuck
12-13-2004, 03:52 PM
So, have you pulled it off yet?

Al

Ohtwo
12-13-2004, 08:06 PM
no

Al Canuck
12-13-2004, 09:31 PM
no


C'mon man. It takes 30 seconds. Enquiring minds want to know.

Al

Ohtwo
12-13-2004, 10:55 PM
Yea, and it takes hours to figure out why I have almost no fuel pressure, and a miss on the intake side.

Al Canuck
12-14-2004, 12:38 AM
You shouldn't have much more than 3psi to feed your carb. You could almost trickle gas in through a straw. Are you using a mechanical, or an electric pump?

As for the miss, adjust your valves, and then give it a proper ignition tune up. NGK plugs, Bosch cap and rotor, Bosch points and condensor(or Pertronix), and a good set of Beru ignition wires from Maximillian. They sell a nice set with a wire loom for $40.

Al

Ohtwo
12-14-2004, 12:57 AM
Recently: new points, rotor, wires (germany), BOSCH plugs, and a valve adj. Im going to get a condenser next chance I get. Thanks for clearning up the fuel pressure doubts. The fuel pressure guages on the carbs read 0. When I ran the pump into a can, the fuel trickeled out, almost seemed like it wouldnt make it to the carbs from the trunk. Oh yea, I have an electric pump.

The miss is pretty random, and doesnt occur under high loads (over 1/2 throttle). It usually misses when cruising, or light acceleration. Its sort of a hiccup from the intake side, through the carbs. Reminds me or a A/C compressor cycling. Im hoping it will go away when I synch my carbs.

Thank for all the help.

Al Canuck
12-14-2004, 01:34 AM
Ahhhh, you've got side drafts! All bets are off then. Could be ANYTHING causing your misfire.

You say German wires, but if that means Bosch, I wouls suggest ditching them. Couple years back I had a customer's 02 that would NOT pass emissions testing. Kept failing on HC, which indicates a misfire. It had tons of nice new goodies, including Bosch wires not even a week old. Well, after we swapped them for a set of Beru wires, it passed wonderfully. Never again will my cars sport Bosch wires. Beru, Bremi, or maybe some good aftermarket wires.

Get that steering wheel off there!

Al

ScottiGee
12-14-2004, 03:37 PM
Man, I thought Bosch's were good....That's dissapointing. I wonder if that was a fluke - I usually go with Bosch wires on my Hondas.

By the way you need to post pics since this is the "Post Pics...." thread
:stickoutt

WTA123
12-14-2004, 09:09 PM
Some of my contributions

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/WTA123/Picture002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/WTA123/MY%20car/BMW762002027.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/WTA123/MY%20car/BMW762002020.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/WTA123/MY%20car/BMW762002018.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/WTA123/MY%20car/BMW762002001.jpg

Ive got plenty more



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/WTA123/MY%20car/BMW762002004.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/WTA123/MY%20car/BMW762002011.jpg

Ohtwo
12-14-2004, 09:53 PM
Ill have to check the brand on the wires, but they cost around $120. I still need to synch my carbs, so Ill have to eliminate that factor first.

fjord7302
12-15-2004, 12:20 AM
Blakpuc- Where did you get those front turn signal lenses?

brave73tii
12-15-2004, 12:39 AM
Recently: new points, rotor, wires (germany), BOSCH plugs, and a valve adj. Im going to get a condenser next chance I get. Thanks for clearning up the fuel pressure doubts. The fuel pressure guages on the carbs read 0. When I ran the pump into a can, the fuel trickeled out, almost seemed like it wouldnt make it to the carbs from the trunk. Oh yea, I have an electric pump.

The miss is pretty random, and doesnt occur under high loads (over 1/2 throttle). It usually misses when cruising, or light acceleration. Its sort of a hiccup from the intake side, through the carbs. Reminds me or a A/C compressor cycling. Im hoping it will go away when I synch my carbs.

Thank for all the help.
you should consider an electronic ignition...they aren't terribly expensive, fairly easy to install, you'll get better gas mileage, a seat of the pants increase in horsepower, and you'll never have to adjust your points again...one of the first things i have done to every car i've owned w/out points is install an electronic ignition...pertronix makes a kit that seems to be very popular...just a thought.

jeff

Ohtwo
12-15-2004, 01:00 AM
you should consider an electronic ignition...they aren't terribly expensive, fairly easy to install, you'll get better gas mileage, a seat of the pants increase in horsepower, and you'll never have to adjust your points again...one of the first things i have done to every car i've owned w/out points is install an electronic ignition...pertronix makes a kit that seems to be very popular...just a thought.

jeff

Do you mean the whole kit, or just the pertronix kit that replaces the points? I just bought the car, so I need to sort out all the problems it developed from sitting around for so long. Electronic ignition is on my list of thing to get though. Theres generally this:

Pertronix Electronic Ignition Unit 89.00
================================================== =
Ultimate Spark Package

MSD-6A, MSD Tach Adapter, 8mm Wire set, Pertronix Ignition

NGK Spark Plugs, Bosch Blue coil 375.00

This package is the answer to all your ignition dreams…Fast starts in all weather, great idle quality, much higher RPM potential, Better fuel economy, More spark so you can run more aggressive carb jetting for more power…Nothing but positive benefits. Truly amazing on Tii’s…

How about the BOSCH red coil? You can use that with the pertronix?

Echo
12-15-2004, 01:17 AM
i need to do this as well as im still struggling with the points... What all is needed to completely switch to an electronic ignition and what can i expect to spend for it all? Thanks everyone.

Cheers,
Jonas

Ohtwo
12-15-2004, 01:51 AM
i need to do this as well as im still struggling with the points... What all is needed to completely switch to an electronic ignition and what can i expect to spend for it all? Thanks everyone.

Cheers,
Jonas

I think the pertronix kit just replaces the points with an optical sensor or something. The ultimate spark package should give you more spark output while including the pertronix. Why doesnt the ultimate spark package include the red coil though? I thought you could use the red coil if your not using points. :eyecrazy :eyecrazy :confused

brave73tii
12-15-2004, 04:35 AM
[QUOTE=Echo]i need to do this as well as im still struggling with the points... What all is needed to completely switch to an electronic ignition and what can i expect to spend for it all? Thanks everyone.

Cheers,
Jonas[/QUOTE

the only thing that is really needed is the pertronix kit which does replace the points w/ an optical sensor which triggers the firing...this, i think makes the most difference, however it all works together (hotter coil, bigger plug wires etc.)

regards, jeff

brave73tii
12-15-2004, 04:41 AM
Do you mean the whole kit, or just the pertronix kit that replaces the points? I just bought the car, so I need to sort out all the problems it developed from sitting around for so long. Electronic ignition is on my list of thing to get though. Theres generally this:

Pertronix Electronic Ignition Unit 89.00
================================================== =
Ultimate Spark Package

MSD-6A, MSD Tach Adapter, 8mm Wire set, Pertronix Ignition

NGK Spark Plugs, Bosch Blue coil 375.00

This package is the answer to all your ignition dreams…Fast starts in all weather, great idle quality, much higher RPM potential, Better fuel economy, More spark so you can run more aggressive carb jetting for more power…Nothing but positive benefits. Truly amazing on Tii’s…

How about the BOSCH red coil? You can use that with the pertronix?
i've heard the blue coil is what is recommended, i don't know though...really it all helps, but i'm just talking about the pertronix kit...that is where you will see the most benefits

regards, jeff :)

Cleverhans
12-15-2004, 09:50 PM
Some of my contributions

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/WTA123/MY%20car/BMW762002018.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/WTA123/MY%20car/BMW762002011.jpg


What type of spoiler are these? Zender? Where can I get one?

WTA123
12-16-2004, 09:03 AM
Have you tried BMW2002faq.com? Go on their and ask for Pierre, he reproduces that exact spoiler, and it looks great. By the way, I believe it is either a zender or Kamei style. :cool

euro96
01-09-2005, 09:53 PM
those are some hot 2k2's

Al Canuck
01-09-2005, 11:31 PM
those are some hot 2k2's

Please don't call them 2k2's. That'a worse than calling them "deuces"

Al

euro96
01-10-2005, 02:40 AM
wow, sorry buddy. :confused

why cant i call them that again? I actually think 2k2 sounds pretty damn cool, so I will continue to call them that

Echo
01-10-2005, 02:49 AM
wow, sorry buddy. :confused

why cant i call them that again? I actually think 2k2 sounds pretty damn cool, so I will continue to call them that

Doesn't suprise me, coming from an e36 owner... :rolleyes

inka2k2
01-10-2005, 02:57 AM
yea good for you....and by the way Al dont try to regulate we call them what we want. we are all part of one big bimmer family so dont hate...celebrate
love your 02 bro
inka2k2
ps yea e36' r prety gay....jk

euro96
01-10-2005, 03:02 AM
Doesn't suprise me, coming from an e36 owner...

what the hell is that supposed to mean? I dont get it dude

please dont be another person that stereotypes e36 or newer bmw owners, honestly. i appreciate all bmw's, why would i be reading this section?

2K2 :buttrock

brave73tii
01-10-2005, 03:24 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/jeffsmith/BMW_Roundel_2.gif

Al Canuck
01-10-2005, 04:30 AM
Uh-oh, I'm not trying to start a war here, calling them 2k2 just rubs me the wrong way. These cars are from a different generation, before Burger King was BK, Kentucky Fried Chicken was KFC, or Dairy Queen was DQ. It just seems so wrong to refer to a vintage car with such a modern term like 2k2. It reminds me of some awful boy band, or other contemporary pop culture reference. Alex Von Falkenhausen would NEVER have called it a '2k2'. Just inappropriate for an 02. Save it for the cars that have "clears", and "kits", and "ICE".

Al

euro96
01-10-2005, 03:30 PM
inappropiate in your opinion. did you make the rules as to what you can call a 2002? the answer is no you did not :nono
you should start appreciating everything BMW, and not hate those who have "clears", and let everyone call a 2002 what they want. if it bothers you, great, but keep it to yourself

Al Canuck
01-10-2005, 04:32 PM
inappropiate in your opinion. did you make the rules as to what you can call a 2002? the answer is no you did not :nono
you should start appreciating everything BMW, and not hate those who have "clears", and let everyone call a 2002 what they want. if it bothers you, great, but keep it to yourself


Wow, someone should really grow a thicker skin. I already said I didn't want a war here, and I explained why I don't like the 2k2 thing.

I should start appreciating BMW? Why, because leaving my old job to open a BMW specialist upholstery shop wasn't enough? No problem, we've now expanded it to include a full tilt restoration shop. At this VERY SECOND, there are 8 BMW's in here, and 2 more of mine(or in my care) are out at the body shop. That's 10 BMW's I look after or own.

67 1600
70 2800cs
71 2002
72 2002
73 2002
76 2002
76 2002
80 Euro spec 635csi
81 323i
85 535i

I'm also slated to do a complete interior in an E36 this spring. So, who appreciates BMW more? The guy with 10 BMW's, or the guy with the Subaru? Yes, that was a low blow. Also, I don't hate people who have "clears". Hell, I'm not even 100% sure I know what they are. Those weird tail lights I presume? At any rate, this is silly. I'm done with you now.

Al

ScottiGee
01-10-2005, 05:34 PM
Two different generations at work here, and each is entitled to its own opinion and reason for liking BMWs. This board is lucky to have such a breadth of members.

Peace love and moonbeams people of the Roundel!

Ohtwo
01-10-2005, 05:44 PM
Chill, doesnt bother me, unless hes got a 3ft non functional spoiler. And actually clears may look good on an 02. Clears meaning the amber covers are replaced with clear ones, and the bulb changed to an amber bulb.

mikeyz325
01-10-2005, 07:14 PM
Doesn't suprise me, coming from an e36 owner... :rolleyes

Hm, I must have some kind of identity crisis I don't know about. I have both a E36 with clears and an 02. (or EXXXVI and MMII if you like) :)

http://northstarbmw.org/mkp/siblings.jpg

euro96
01-10-2005, 10:54 PM
hey im euro96's brother... no more fighting okay children? i peersonally agree Al and dont like how 2k2 sounds and i dont say it like that-- i say 2002 or even O-2...i would still type 2k2 on a forum and not even notice- to each his own, right? but, as for So, who appreciates BMW more? The guy with 10 BMW's, or the guy with the Subaru? yes it was a low blow, :) but i took a little offense. i love all bmw's,like e28s, 2002's and e30's most especially, i love e36's and all the big old coupes and the e39 m5, but i just cant afford to own more than one.....and if i could have any car, yes, it would be a bmw, not a subaru. my sister just took the 328i down with her to irvine so im driving the wrx now. but currently my subaru has around 290hp, great suspension and great looks, in my opinion. Long stretches of mtn roads highlight how the car is so well connected to the road, the steering wheel and shifter in perfect position to the driver. All wheel drive keeps you on the road in the winter and fast in acceleration. And a turbo. 0-60 in sub 5 also has its perks.

2k2 or 2002, its still the same sweet car that both sides obviously respect.

-marty

inka2k2
01-11-2005, 02:46 AM
marty you are retarded...stop trying to sell a subaru on a bimmer forum...its ok every one we know eachother...hes my friends little brother(knows his stuff but still young) get it young...i crack my self up, any ways
inka2k2

euro96
01-11-2005, 04:15 PM
im just saayin...
actually i just didnt want to see a subaru get bashed..even if it was just a tiny bit.
-marty
by the way chase i found a track up here to autocross!

Ohtwo
01-11-2005, 05:26 PM
MikeYZ, where did you get those low profile corner lights? Mine stick out 2 inches, the ones on your car are flush.

Leif E. Bronn
01-11-2005, 05:29 PM
I beleive they are the Italian turn signals.

ScottiGee
01-11-2005, 05:35 PM
Mikeyz '02 front end is one of my favorites - nice clean body work and some fine paint too.
:clockwise

brave73tii
01-11-2005, 09:45 PM
MikeYZ, where did you get those low profile corner lights? Mine stick out 2 inches, the ones on your car are flush.
european turn signals. they also came on 1600's...pretty cool huh?
the italian signals are two tone: front part amber, rear part clear. regular european are all amber.

euro96
01-11-2005, 09:47 PM
they look much better

Echo
01-11-2005, 09:51 PM
they look much better

Yeah they look good, but not good enough to justify spending the ammount of money people do spend on them.

Ohtwo
01-11-2005, 11:29 PM
True, I hear they go for around $100.

//Mdreamer
01-14-2005, 10:38 PM
There certainly are some nice 2002s on this thread. Keep posting people!

uberKRAUT
01-15-2005, 10:55 PM
Here is some of my, "Far From Sweet Projects "
http://lilmissanthropy.homestead.com/files/02_Pic.JPG
http://lilmissanthropy.homestead.com/files/02_Pic__1_.JPG
http://lilmissanthropy.homestead.com/files/02_Pic__2_.JPG

:rolleyes

mikeyz325
01-16-2005, 04:59 PM
MikeYZ, where did you get those low profile corner lights? Mine stick out 2 inches, the ones on your car are flush.

I don't know about Italian, I think they are standard european leneses. I was under the impression it went like this (but I'm no expert on the matter):

US: the ones that stick out and are amber
EU: the ones that are flush and are amber (like mine)
IT: like EU but "clear", and selling for around $75 Ea.

...maybe

Al Canuck
01-16-2005, 05:34 PM
The difference between the European lights, and the Italian lights is that the Italian lights are 2 tone. Half amber, and half clear.

Al

fjord7302
01-18-2005, 12:43 AM
Where can I buy a pair of the Italian turn signals?

Cris

Bluntheadtrauma
01-18-2005, 10:38 AM
Where can I buy a pair of the Italian turn signals?

Cris

I THINK YOULL FIND IT DIFFICULT TO LOCATE SOME. IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A WHILE.
THIS PLACE CALLED GERMAN MASTER TECH USED TO HAVE SOME BUT THEY SOLD THEM ALL. LAJOLLA HAS 1 ONLY AT 150.00. WTF???
I JUST WENT WITH THE AMBER EUROS AS THEY ARE A LOT CHEAPER AND STILL AVAILABLE

fjord7302
01-19-2005, 01:08 AM
Thanks- I e-mailed them today. Any other leads would be greatly appreciated.

Cris

steve k.
01-19-2005, 06:02 PM
Where can I buy a pair of the Italian turn signals?

Cris

they come up on ebay all the time. Go for globs of money. i think it is easier to find a pair of used 1600 corners. Or may be find a pair on euro ebay and get them shippd if seller wants to deal with US shipping.

steve k.

ScottiGee
01-19-2005, 06:52 PM
You could always shave them, fill it, and drill something else in there instead.
Sounds like a lot but if you already have your car down to bare metal it's an option. You could put the sidemarkers from the z4 on there...the ones with the roundel in the center.
http://www.motorimania.it/anteprima/bmw.z4/thumbnails/autobmw.z4.6.jpg

I"m not a huge fan of those in particular, but I'm saying it's an opportunity to do something unique

fjord7302
01-19-2005, 09:03 PM
I have a new pair (year old) of the european side markers now. I just like the Italians.

Cris

brews1600
02-17-2005, 06:32 AM
Heres a 68' 1600-2 in Nor-Cal. there's many 02's around here ( even a few 1600's and ti's around) we all wave or honk for eachother, mabe a lil tire smoke if we're going the same way, I'll try to get a pic of a few of us all parked together somewhere.

cheechthechi
02-18-2005, 11:24 PM
WOW all these nice 2002's

Well, mine is not as shiny or beautiful as those.. but hey we all start somewhere right? Heres my work in progress '75 2002:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/810973/CopyofDSC00423.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/810973/DSC00425.jpg

74tii
02-19-2005, 03:42 PM
Mine needs some work too dude. I've done brakes, fuel injection fix, headers + exhaust, urathane bushings, bilstines, strut brace -- the car drives like its on rails and hauls serious ass. It just looks like crap :")

Saving up for a paintjob, new front windows, body work etc .. then it should be pretty cherry

http://www.jeffersonfreestate.org/02tii/tii_med_01.jpg

-z

fjord7302
02-19-2005, 11:59 PM
Click on my sig.

Cris

cheechthechi
02-20-2005, 12:00 AM
Nice car.... I want to convert my car to fuel injection, not sure whether I want to use mechanical fuel injection or the 318i one.

fjord7302
02-20-2005, 12:41 AM
If I did the conversion I'd use the Motrnic set-up in the e30 318. Its a little more versatile than the current cis set-up.

Cris

GoodOlSappy
02-21-2005, 01:11 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/goodolsappy/20022.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/goodolsappy/20021.jpg

my baby

cheechthechi
02-21-2005, 02:41 AM
WOW, how'd you bring the rear bumper in so close?

GoodOlSappy
02-22-2005, 01:40 AM
i drilled holes int he shock and just pushed all the fluid out

ill post a pic of it close up

kpolito99
02-22-2005, 11:52 AM
Max. power @ rear wheels 260 bhp @ 5850 rpm
Max. torque @ rear wheels 252 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm
Boost electronically limited to 15 psi

- 2.23 liter 4 cyclinder (92 mm bore/84 mm stroke)
- Haltech F-9A Fuel Management (550cc/min injectors)
- Jacobs Electronics Ultra Coil/Boost Timing Master
- Blitz Sequential Boost Controller (SBCi-DIII)

- Lightweight Aluminum Fly Wheel
- M3 Sport Clutch Kit
- Metric Mechanic Ultimate 5 Speed (Getrag 245)

- 3.45:1 Differential Gear Set
- Quaife Limited Slip Insert

Weight to power = 7.56 (lb/hp)

WTA123
02-22-2005, 11:56 AM
:eek: That is a sick car! How long did it take you do do all that?

kpolito99
02-22-2005, 12:12 PM
Thanks! I have been working on her since about 1984. I have tried multiple engine configurations, side drafts w/big cam and headers, EFI, supercharging and finally the turbo. The estoril blue paint is about one year old, she used to be white and sport motorsport stripes.

WTA123
02-22-2005, 12:15 PM
Lmao..1984 :) . You must be the king of 2002's by now. What kind of supercharger did you try? I was thinking about trying that with carbs, or possibly a turbo setup with carbs, but everyone keeps telling me its a PITA.

kpolito99
02-22-2005, 12:30 PM
I blew threw a single throttle body attached to the tii plenum with electronic injectors for both supercharged and turbocharged applications. I fabricated a supercharger kit using a PowerDyne head unit because it does run very cool( cog belt driven). I could not stand the rattling sound of gear lash of other brands while idling. I know a reputable source who has information regarding draw though applications for supercharging a 2002. I am currently trying to sell my supercharger and would be more than happy to put you in contact with someone who maybe able to help you learn more about using it with a carb.

WTA123
02-22-2005, 12:34 PM
Sure, id be interested.
Thanks Alot

kpolito99
02-22-2005, 01:16 PM
Just sent a pm with contact info in answer to your request

WTA123
02-22-2005, 01:29 PM
Thanks, I sent you back one.

Stephen V
02-22-2005, 02:51 PM
Here is my WIP. The bumpers have been removed because I hope to soon be able to replace the mangled right front fender and put new rear tires on (since I have to mold the rear fenders out a little to fit the new 205s. I also have some turbo flares that need to be added and painted. The bumpers have been drilled and much of the fluid has been removed, they are now shorter and I have painted them low-gloss black. They look pretty good, but I don't want to ruin them if they go to the paint shop. There is a long way to go yet for this car, but little by little it is becoming more and more liveable.

As for the mods that can't be seen, there are way to many to list, but I will try to show as many as I can!

In the motor there is: race ported/polished head (needs more carbs which I have to put on: 44 Mikunis choked to 34 to replace the 38/38 carb), Stainless Ferrea valves, Isky race valve springs, bored over cylinders to about 2.2L, tii rods, Stahl Header, home made intake which never got a cold airbox, but will be replaced when Mikunis are rebuilt and put on car!, all smog junk removed, battery in the trunk, ANSA exhaust system and that is all I can remember under the hood.
Suspension/wheels and tires/brakes: New Sport Bilsteins all the way around, 13" Alpinas (yes they're real, yes they've been repainted, and yes they're expensive :( ), Sumitomo 195s in front and rear (hope to fix rear fenders soon to put 205s), Brembo slotted rotors in front, 530 calipers, Porterfield pads, stainless brake lines, tii struts, Racing Dynamics sway bars, stock brakes in back (no need to upgrade, not fast enough yet! :cool ), front cross bar from Ireland Eng, no more stuff that I can name off the top of my head!

Various fun stuff: 1502 badge! special ordered from Jaymic, stereo system: 1 12" sub in trunk and an amp, had to add pedal box and tach for 5 speed upgrade from a slushbox, reupholstered interior with red stitching on Scheel seats in front and reupholstered stock seats in rear, 85/110w h4 gold hella bulbs in E code h4 headlights, front grills and part behind grills have been repainted, air horns.



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Any questions, please ask!

kpolito99
02-22-2005, 03:34 PM
Looking good... .. . I especially like the valve cover paint work!

Stephen V
02-22-2005, 03:38 PM
Thanks! My dad built a 2002 a few years back and the owner painted it but didnt really drive the car much so he sold it back to my dad and I got that vlave cover and some carbs. :) I was happy!

I love your turbo too, that is a work of art!

GoodOlSappy
02-22-2005, 05:10 PM
WOW, how'd you bring the rear bumper in so close?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/goodolsappy/photo_0023.jpg

thats a close up of the back

the bumper actually sits righ tup to the body

the side rubber peices i just cut about an inch or two out of the middle then put a peice of metal on the insides to hold it together

Stephen V
02-22-2005, 05:16 PM
I did something similar to that: I cut the end part of the bumpy part and removed a few of the bumpy parts and siliconed them back together and it looks stock. I will try to post pics later, but I will show you the inside since they are off the car.

Ohtwo
02-22-2005, 08:33 PM
002, are you using the stock alternator? I was going to get an amp or sub, but I didnt think the stock alternator could put out enough power.

Villanuevas_BMW
02-23-2005, 12:59 AM
kpolito99,
How did you work around your brake booster? I have a 320 booster and I have no idea how to have the kind of intake I want with my booster

kpolito99
02-23-2005, 01:13 AM
I am using the tii brake booster that I believe is smaller in diameter than the stock 2002 or 320i units.

Stephen V
02-23-2005, 12:30 PM
002, are you using the stock alternator? I was going to get an amp or sub, but I didnt think the stock alternator could put out enough power.
Yes, I have got the stock alternator, but it is a little bit of a pain when I don't drive the car a lot since the present alternator does not charge the battery enough when I don't drive it everyday.

Villanuevas_BMW
02-23-2005, 02:45 PM
I guess my sig does not work here but here is my 2

Echo
02-23-2005, 02:55 PM
I guess my sig does not work here but here is my 2

Im sorry, but Ewww.... First of all those splitters do not work on an 02... Second, it looks like youve spent alot of money there, but yet you don't have Euro turn signals on it? Those would make a HUGE difference... Not quite my bag...

Stephen V
02-23-2005, 03:02 PM
I think it looks pretty cool, but with all that bodywork it had better have at least 200 hp.
Yeah btw get rid of the US corners! That was the first "upgrade" on my car.

noproblemq
02-23-2005, 05:49 PM
What do non-US corners look like? My corners are cracked and need replacing.

FQ

GoodOlSappy
02-23-2005, 06:15 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/goodolsappy/2002withquads.jpg
that has the euro signals on it, and everything else i wanna put on my car


OHHHH BABY

Stephen V
02-23-2005, 06:44 PM
Four headlights too? I think 002s look better with two headlights IMHO

Ohtwo
02-23-2005, 08:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/goodolsappy/2002withquads.jpg
that has the euro signals on it, and everything else i wanna put on my car


OHHHH BABY

Nice car, the dual headlight setup looks good on this car, but I like the single light setup.

GoodOlSappy
02-23-2005, 09:04 PM
yeah at firs ti didnt like the 4 lights, but every time i look at that pic i love them more and more.

Stephen V
02-23-2005, 09:56 PM
Reminds me of the e21 a little bit.

fjord7302
02-24-2005, 02:17 AM
Ohtwo- You can upgrade your stock alternator to a later model internally regulated alternator off a e28 535i or other big six equipped cars. Its a real straight forward upgrade and the alternator output is much higher than the stock unit.

Cris

Stephen V
02-24-2005, 02:33 AM
What do non-US corners look like? My corners are cracked and need replacing.

FQ
Take a look here: http://www.imagehosting.us/himages/ihnp-262485.jpg
This is a pic of my car from earlier in the thread.

kpolito99
02-24-2005, 01:31 PM
Ohtwo - personally I really dig the quad look and I would have implemented that if I could have found a set. Where did you find them anyway? As my car stands now there is way too much going on behind the grill to install an extra set of light buckets at this time.

Many people who are purists dis me cause I personalized my 02. I say f'em if they don't like what I have done... .. . don't look at it.

Villanuevas_BMW
02-24-2005, 02:13 PM
Many people who are purists dis me cause I personalized my 02. I say f'em if they don't like what I have done... .. . don't look at it.
I know what you mean. People either like my car or or hate it, doesnt matter to me, thats my baby. Im not going to mention what show it was, but I pretty much felt like I got kicked out for how my 2 looks like, me being kinda young doesnt help much either. I have even been told that my car isnt even a real 2002 because I dont have the circle taillights.

Stephen V
02-24-2005, 02:42 PM
I used to be like that about round tails, but now I prefer the grills in front and square in tails! The only crap part is the only cars in the US like this all have big diving board bumpers.

brave73tii
02-24-2005, 08:10 PM
yeah, i kinda like the looks of the square tailed 02's. however, i just can't get around those bumpers, literally...

brave73tii
02-24-2005, 08:14 PM
Ohtwo - personally I really dig the quad look and I would have implemented that if I could have found a set. Where did you find them anyway? As my car stands now there is way too much going on behind the grill to install an extra set of light buckets at this time.

Many people who are purists dis me cause I personalized my 02. I say f'em if they don't like what I have done... .. . don't look at it.
it seems the purists in the vintage bmw ranks are a bit harsh as compared to other cars makes...sucks. we all love these cars for the same reason.

Stephen V
02-24-2005, 08:18 PM
Don't walk too close to them or you will hurt your knees! :blackeye

brave73tii
02-24-2005, 08:28 PM
at least you can sit on them. :D

Stephen V
02-24-2005, 08:34 PM
Or tailgate... :)

brave73tii
02-25-2005, 12:05 AM
Ohtwo- You can upgrade your stock alternator to a later model internally regulated alternator off a e28 535i or other big six equipped cars. Its a real straight forward upgrade and the alternator output is much higher than the stock unit.

Cris
also the e21 320i alternator...65 amps.

Ohtwo
02-25-2005, 12:44 AM
I dont see why all these old school BMW drivers are raggin on us young bimmer fans.

Dont you think they would be glad that were not buzzing around in civics with fart cans? I think its good to see people my age learning about carbs, and actually maintaining their cars.

If the next generation doesnt get intrested in 02s, theres not going to be any 02 owners around in the decades to come.

Maybe I should pull up at vintage BMW meets blasting rap with my hat "sidewayz."



BTW, thats not my quad headlight 02.

Ohtwo
02-25-2005, 12:47 AM
also the e21 320i alternator...65 amps.

Both are bolt on replacments? No mods? Which puts out more power?

Thanks

brave73tii
02-25-2005, 02:03 AM
Both are bolt on replacments? No mods? Which puts out more power?

Thanks
that depends on whether you already have an internal regulator alternator. i think the later, 74 and up, 02's have them. not sure. if so it's a direct bolt on. otherwise there's a little wiring to do which is supposedly simple. the conversion was already done on my car when i bought it. i don't know which puts out more power.
regards, jeff

Leif E. Bronn
02-25-2005, 10:34 AM
Go with the E30 318 Alt, it has 85 amps and is pretty easy to swap. I have a link with the information on the swap somewhere, I'll post it up when i find it.

Stephen V
02-25-2005, 05:32 PM
I dont see why all these old school BMW drivers are raggin on us young bimmer fans.

Dont you think they would be glad that were not buzzing around in civics with fart cans? I think its good to see people my age learning about carbs, and actually maintaining their cars.

If the next generation doesnt get intrested in 02s, theres not going to be any 02 owners around in the decades to come.

Maybe I should pull up at vintage BMW meets blasting rap with my hat "sidewayz."



BTW, thats not my quad headlight 02.
Haha! don't see why you posted it but good point! I am only 19, but I am an 02 psycho...
It helps that my did is a bimmer tech, but anyway...

No civics with fartcans for me since I am not a FWD guy even though there are some 1/4 milers that are okay, then again I am a roadcourse guy sooooo....

What does it matter what the old 002 crew thinks? No offense to the ones that respect the new crew of 002 guys, but what does it matter what we do to our cars? I couldnt care less that I get critiqued for having an amp and a sub in mine, so what? We're in the 2000's not the 70's; you can still be quick even though you've got some weight in the back, that's why they invented fuel injection (sorry not going to support forced induction because I still firmly believe in spending the money to make a super NA motor).

Any ?s old crew... :buttrock :buttrock

brave73tii
02-25-2005, 07:43 PM
Go with the E30 318 Alt, it has 85 amps and is pretty easy to swap. I have a link with the information on the swap somewhere, I'll post it up when i find it.
i posted a link on an earlier thread for that swap. you'll have to search.

anaphe
03-03-2005, 02:26 PM
I have a gallery which you can look at.

Stroked 2002 motor with Alpina 4 throttle injection, CR 5spd, CR steering, Alpina Suspension including wheels etc. Engine is going back in this weekend.

www.alberta02.com
http://slash.ouelong.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=akalcounis

http://slash.ouelong.com/albums/bmw2002/throttles.jpg

Stephen V
03-03-2005, 03:18 PM
Wow, what a find! How well do they work?

SpecM
03-03-2005, 04:22 PM
www.alberta02.com



Hay! That's a great site! Everyone check it out.

mikeyz325
03-03-2005, 08:13 PM
i posted a link on an earlier thread for that swap. you'll have to search.

Here is the link: http://www.zeebuck.com/bimmers/tech/318alternator/318ialternator.html

kpolito99
03-03-2005, 08:44 PM
mikeyz325 - Sweet looking 2002, 2k2, O-2 or whatever you choose to call her. I especially like the dark colored wheels.

BMW makes really great toys that are far more practical than 2 seat Porches and equally equipped to get around a road course.

Guys that were bickering about the title,

Can't we all just get along and enjoy the drive regardless of what we choose to own? Round lights, square lights, pre or post efi, who gives a flying fuck? Just put the pedal down and drive it sideways!!! :buttrock

WTA123
03-03-2005, 08:46 PM
mikeyz325 - Sweet looking 2002, 2k2, O-2 or whatever you choose to call her. I especially like the dark colored wheels.

BMW makes really great toys that are far more practical than 2 seat Porches and equally equipped to get around a road course.

Guys that were bickering about the title,

Can't we all just get along and enjoy the drive regardless of what we choose to own? Round lights, square lights, pre or post efi, who gives a flying fuck? Just put the pedal down and drive it sideways!!!

Exactly :buttrock

tommozza
03-06-2005, 04:45 AM
Has anybody just tried dipping half the indicator lense in brake fluid?
Of course making sure u prepped it up and all first to make sure you got the same look on both lenses...could look good :)
Just my 02 cents

Tom

ocronn
03-12-2005, 02:05 PM
http://www.myshare.info
http://www.myshare.info/pictures/project_pics/2002_1502/1502_painted/paint11.JPG
Just got my intercooler this week. Pics of the fitting progress will be updated as soon as it's done.

vtbimmer
03-15-2005, 11:47 PM
Hopefully coming home with me in April :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/vtbmw525/2397photo_6.jpg

mikeyz325
03-16-2005, 12:02 AM
that thing looks perfect!

I've seen pictures before, whats the story on it?

vtbimmer
03-16-2005, 12:21 AM
that thing looks perfect!

I've seen pictures before, whats the story on it?

Well, first I need to tell you how I found it.
My business partner and I drove several hours east in search of a skid steer for our business. Five minutes from our destination we pass by a beautiful Independent BMW Dealer. I think we spent 2 minutes at the skid steer place before we rushed back to the dealer we passed. Outside were a ton of nice bimmers including a E30 M3 :eek: Inside the showroom was this beautiful 02 along with two e34 M5's .......You have to understand that finding this meca of gorgeous bimmers was completely unexpected and I was absolutely floored. From what I gather the owner built it with the intention of racing but never put it on the track. Im driving back there this week to get more info and possibly give a deposit.

mikeyz325
03-16-2005, 12:52 AM
Well its awsome, I hope you get it... I'd be super excited if i were you..

vtbimmer
03-16-2005, 12:56 AM
Well its awsome, I hope you get it... I'd be super excited if i were you..

Words cant describe. Im going to have a few sleepless nights.

Ohtwo
03-16-2005, 01:06 AM
Words cant describe. Im going to have a few sleepless nights.

I know how you feel. I had to wait over a month to find out if the seller was going to get a title or he was just messing with me. After that, I had to drive an hour one way to pay for it, then wait a weekend for the flatbed to arrive with the car at my house.

HarryPR
03-16-2005, 08:20 AM
Words cant describe. Im going to have a few sleepless nights.

Looks very racy. I like it!

I had seen pics of that car somewhere before. Could've been at the FAQ board. You might want to check there to see if anyone has some history on the car.

Congrats,

vtbimmer
03-16-2005, 09:27 PM
Looks very racy. I like it!

I had seen pics of that car somewhere before. Could've been at the FAQ board. You might want to check there to see if anyone has some history on the car.

Congrats,

Does anyone know about this?

mikeyz325
03-16-2005, 11:26 PM
I've heard about it too, probably at the FAQ site... go post a picture there and ask. www.bmw2002faq.com

74tii
03-17-2005, 12:12 AM
aye was just on a chat with the FAQ guys.. aparently the dude who owns that fine 02 posted [with a the pic] was talking about it in a post, but no one can find the exact spot. When I saw it I thought you all were the same people so didn't think anything about it.

If I get some energy coding wise I might ask the FAQ guys if they would want a better search function -- its OK but an order by date clause would make things a lot better for this kind of thing

-z

WTA123
03-17-2005, 03:51 PM
The second page of the "worlds fastest 2002" thread. A guy named John with username Harv posted a pic of it.Clickie here (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=313209&page=2)

Thats where I saw the spoiler, and I posted a pic on the 2002faq because I like iit so much. I hope that clears some thing up.


EDIt: Heres the pic on the post, and the one I used on 2002faqhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/1harv/d5247d21.jpg

Stephen V
03-17-2005, 04:16 PM
I like iit so much...
clever! :lol

vtbimmer
03-17-2005, 06:40 PM
Just got back from Concord Motorsport today. Here is the list of work that was done about 20 years ago.

Engine:
2002 Block w/ a 1600 Crankshaft
.050 Oversize Pistons
Alpina Big Valve Big Journal Head
Balanced and Blueprinted
310 Degree Cam
Weber 45 DCOE's w/ Velocity Stacks
Metric Mechanic High Capacity Cooling System
Headercraft Headers w/ Ansa Exhaust System
Allison & MSD Ignition System w/ Centrifugal Advanced Distributor
Chrysler Charging System w/ 90 Amp Alternator

Clutch & Transmission:
Aluminum Flywheel
Centerforce Carbon Kevlar Clutch
Five Speed Close Ratio Gearbox w/ Straight Gears
Short Throw Shifter

Suspension:
Dinan Springs, 23mm Sway Bars, & Front Strut Brace
Bilstein Sport Shocks & Front Camber Plates
13x8 BWA Wheels w/ 235/50/13 Yokohama Y352's

Brakes:
Cross Drilled Front Brake Rotors
Dual Front Brake Calipers w/ Repco Metal Master Pads
320i Rear Brake Drums w/ Velvetouch Brake Shoes
Tii Master Cylinder
Stainless Steel Flex Lines

Other:
Custom VDO Instruments
Scheel Seats
Hella H4 Headlamps
Fiberglass Fenders, Hood, & Trunk Lid

I spoke with the current owner today and he says in the 7 years he has owned it its been driven only 400 miles. The previous owner lived around Lime Rock Park and was the one who built this car over 20 years ago. 7,500 original rebuilt miles!!! I put a deposit on it and should hopefully be able to take it home by May 2nd. I cant wait, this 02 is sick!!!
I may also be able to get my hands on the original molds for the body pieces. I plan on making a mold of the front spoiler and making a CF one. :alright

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/vtbmw525/cm2002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/vtbmw525/2002in.jpg

74tii
03-17-2005, 06:54 PM
dude you are going to have a blast in that car!

ScottiGee
03-17-2005, 07:02 PM
That car is awesome. gorgeous.

WTA123
03-17-2005, 07:24 PM
Amazing car! Can I have the spoiler? :D

vtbimmer
03-17-2005, 07:30 PM
Amazing car! Can I have the spoiler? :D
Look for future posts on the spoiler.

HarryPR
03-17-2005, 08:23 PM
Congrats! Looks like you have a sweet one in your hands. That car should run like the proverbial scalded cat.

Keep us updated!

kpolito99
03-18-2005, 04:00 PM
Looks like a sweet car, I am sure you will enjoy her. Just be sure to keep the shiney side up and watch out for little old white haired ladies driving their land barges.

If you don't mind my asking, what was the final sale price? I scanned the previous couple of pages but didn't see a price listed.

vtbimmer
03-18-2005, 07:19 PM
$ 7,500.00

Ohtwo
03-29-2005, 10:16 PM
UPDATE:New pics with BBS rims and 205s, ultimate spark package (MSD 6A, plug wires, hotter plugs, pertronix, red coil)


http://img187.exs.cx/img187/4286/dsc032797je.th.jpg (http://img187.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img187&image=dsc032797je.jpg)



http://img187.exs.cx/img187/7113/dsc033174ar.th.jpg (http://img187.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img187&image=dsc033174ar.jpg)

http://img187.exs.cx/img187/3387/dsc033050up.th.jpg (http://img187.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img187&image=dsc033050up.jpg)

http://img187.exs.cx/img187/4421/dsc033652mg.th.jpg (http://img187.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img187&image=dsc033652mg.jpg)

http://img187.exs.cx/img187/3807/dsc032903et.th.jpg (http://img187.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img187&image=dsc032903et.jpg)

HarryPR
03-29-2005, 10:56 PM
Nice looking car! For some reason I loooove Schwarz '76 '02's with BBS wheels... :redspot

I have a set of 15 in BBS RS which are on my list of projects. Slowly refurbishing them to swap them for the E30 BBS wheels currently on the car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/bonkosky/My%202002s/italian.jpg

cheechthechi
03-30-2005, 12:43 AM
Wow nice 02! That's almost exactly how I want my 02 done up.

WTA123
03-30-2005, 08:49 AM
I have a few questions, Ohtwo, where do you run the vacuum hose from the distributor? I can't find a place to run it to and it messes up the advance :help Also, what size and where can I find the caps/bolts that hold the valve cover on? I ordered a powdercoated one from 2002 Haus, and I want to replace them. Thanks

Ohtwo
03-30-2005, 07:24 PM
Thanks guys.

I have a Tii distributor with mechanical advance, so theres not vac. line. Not sure about the valve cover nuts. 2002ad is worth a try.

I think with sidedrafts, you should be using a Tii distributor anyway.

Leif E. Bronn
03-30-2005, 08:32 PM
I think with sidedrafts, you should be using a Tii distributor anyway.


True.

WTA123
03-30-2005, 09:12 PM
Is a 008 distrubutor a tii distrib?

Thanks

fjord7302
03-30-2005, 11:12 PM
I believ its a tii dist. I have one if you're looking. You can have it. Its in great shape with little play and the mechanical advance operates smoothly as well. PM me with your mailing address and I'll send it.

Cris

WTA123
03-31-2005, 08:58 AM
PM sent! :buttrock