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tad bit of vulgarity, may not be suitable if you're at work

well, I stopped trying after 1st gear... Not that it would have drastically changed the outcome. I can take him on the highway, but not from a stop.

the person taking the video has since been fired for his skill in keeping the camera still, or lack there of.

http://home.earthlink.net/~mitchelrlewis/harley.WMV

Car vs. bike from a stop = death

Yeah, your camera guy needs a slap :D

Nice vid.

Your cameraman is absolutely abysmal :confused:

on a side note Vandy...

I work at an Audi dealership, I saw in your sig that you're going to chip it soon... DO NOT chip it unless you intend on upgrading your turbo setup. I've seen performance chips tear up 3 turbo'd audi's so far, one of which was an S4. A performance chip also made my moms 1.8t audi go south on her.

on a side note Vandy...

I work at an Audi dealership, I saw in your sig that you're going to chip it soon... DO NOT chip it unless you intend on upgrading your turbo setup. I've seen performance chips tear up 3 turbo'd audi's so far, one of which was an S4. A performance chip also made my moms 1.8t audi go south on her.
Interesting. It seems to be one of the first things modders do to a turbo Audi.

Back to the topic. Interesting. Do we know the lad on the bike? Not sure I would appreciate someone I don't know video-ing me as I ride but whatever.

It's a Sportster no? 883 I think. Maybe a 1200, as it seemed pretty quick...for a Hog. It's amazing to see it from the car's persective.

-Eff

yea bikes are pretty fast

I had a 96 1200S that was worked, that ran low 12's...

Why did you sell it? Still have a bike?

-Eff

http://home.earthlink.net/~os-lewism/sportster.JPG

the guy on the sportster happens to be my best friend, clayton. the sportster is an 1100 or 1200, I forget. "We" don't know him...but I've known ever since my first year of Grid Kids football in 5th grade. He didn't mind me filming him, that was the plan of the night. We just never got to have a go with eachother on a roll.

I may see if he wants to get some video of us going from a roll tonight. I've beaten him on a roll already, we'll see how it goes.

Slow bike (in relative terms). Very slow car, did you even try?

after I redlined first...no. Wasn't worth it to me. That street 40th Avenue intersecting with Nob Hill (DakarE36 knows this intersection as well and can verify) isnt' the best place to be racing...it's heavily policed.

Uhm....Not sure about the run, but camera boy sucks. :D What the hell was he trying to do, zoom in and read the registration digits on the sticker on the tag while racing?

on a side note Vandy...

I work at an Audi dealership, I saw in your sig that you're going to chip it soon... DO NOT chip it unless you intend on upgrading your turbo setup. I've seen performance chips tear up 3 turbo'd audi's so far, one of which was an S4. A performance chip also made my moms 1.8t audi go south on her.

I appreciate the advice mitchelrl. I'm an enthusiast, though, so I'm prepared for what's going to happen if/when the S4 gets chipped. For most chippers the HP and Torque gain per dollar is too great too resist. If you've ever driven a chipped S4 it's like night and day compared to a stock.

What's annoying is that turbo monsters like STIs (even modded ones) don't have nearly as many turbos fail as the 1.8T or 2.7T engines. The problem is that VW/Audi's K03 turbos are fantastically weak. Bad design on Audi's part. But I can't imagine myself in anything other than an S4. In spite of its flaws and quirks I like it too much =)

Once the K03s go byebye I might spring for K04s unless I can sleeze my way in to getting the stockers replaced under warranty (which I've read through and through =) Check your PMs. Thanks again.

/hijack

That was preety funny. That bike was gone so fast.

I appreciate the advice mitchelrl. I'm an enthusiast, though, so I'm prepared for what's going to happen if/when the S4 gets chipped. For most chippers the HP and Torque gain per dollar is too great too resist. If you've ever driven a chipped S4 it's like night and day compared to a stock.

What's annoying is that turbo monsters like STIs (even modded ones) don't have nearly as many turbos fail as the 1.8T or 2.7T engines. The problem is that VW/Audi's K03 turbos are fantastically weak. Bad design on Audi's part. But I can't imagine myself in anything other than an S4. In spite of its flaws and quirks I like it too much =)

Once the K03s go byebye I might spring for K04s unless I can sleeze my way in to getting the stockers replaced under warranty (which I've read through and through =) Check your PMs. Thanks again.

/hijack

Chiopping the s4 will make awesome power...especially if you get a program for 100 octane. Should be adequate to hang and/or beat many e46 M3's.
Blowing turbos is due to poor heat management in the s4 engine bay...there just isn't much roon to breathe in there. Chipped 1.8t's rarely blow k03's unless they are treated like a pizza delivery car and consideration is not given to proper cool down. This is true for any turbo car. Also on the s4 some turbo failure can be attributed to tearing the hose. I think if you are very conscientious you can run a chipped s for a long time. Those guys that ride 'em hard and put 'em to bed wet, well it's no surprise the inevitable outcome.
I disagree w/ your philosophy of having the k03's replaced under warranty...but to each their own.

If you are chipping your Audi, just get a Diverter Valve and a Turbo Timer and that will help to extend the life of the turbos tremendously. Exhaust obviously helps too.

You NEED a DV, no questions asked. Just get a Forge 007 DV.

If you are chipping your Audi, just get a Diverter Valve and a Turbo Timer and that will help to extend the life of the turbos tremendously. Exhaust obviously helps too.

You NEED a DV, no questions asked. Just get a Forge 007 DV.

Yep. Getting forges and a stronger throttle body boot. Might get the turbo timer. It would definitely be a good idea but I just installed a temp sender with a lower threshold so it should circulate coolant (after shutdown) if the oil temp is over 206.6 degrees fahrenheit. We'll see about the timer.

FWIW I always warm up/cool down the turbos properly.

I disagree w/ your philosophy of having the k03's replaced under warranty...but to each their own.

I understand what you're saying. I'm not a sleazy person.

But in response I say I disagree with Audi's engineering philosophy that seems to pay little attention to long-term reliability. At least as it applies to the 2.7T engine. I think it shows a lack of respect when Audi designs a failure-prone setup and then tries to deny warranty replacement of turbos on a STOCK car. I've seen it. I'll be a straight shooter when Audi of America is.

Audi of America blows so hard it's ridiculous. I would think nothing of having them replace chipped blown turbos under warranty, don't even lose sleep over it. Although, letting an Audi dealer touch your car is nuts too, so I would just pop the K04's in and call it a nice upgradem which it should be.

Also, expensive diverter valves are a waste of money. A 710N is just as good and el cheapo -- you can buy new ones every year if you feel like it!

Can't believe you haven't chipped that thing yet Vandy, you're missing out on all the fun!

I find it sad that you have to replace the stock diverter valves on the S4 within 20k miles -- even sadder that you have to do the same thing on 996 turbos.

As if they could not throw in a solid unit from the factory for the $ you pay ...

I find it sad that you have to replace the stock diverter valves on the S4 within 20k miles -- even sadder that you have to do the same thing on 996 turbos.

As if they could not throw in a solid unit from the factory for the $ you pay ...

No kidding. The stock ones are crap, they have a rubber diaphram that tears easily, especially when running more than stock boost.

The 710N is ok, but the Forge is a step above. Might as well upgrade one time instead of having to buy new 710n's every now and then. The forge's are rebuildable and reconfigurable for a lifetime. Spring vs. rubber diaphram = no brainer.

I'd imagine a turbo timer would help quite a bit, since the bearings in the turbo are usually the first thing to go out in them when they're over-driven.

Audi Engineers like driving just as much as any of us, They tune their cars and the turbo's in their cars in their cars to the fine line of not sacrificing power and performance for quality, reliability and longevity and find a GOOD balance. Chipping them and not upgrading to a beefier turbo is a bad mixture.

a Turbo Timer MAY help the situation but allowing it to cool down as well though. I'll ask on monday and get back to you guys.

Mods, no worries, I'm the one that hi-jacked my thread, lol.

Car vs. bike from a stop = death

Yeah, your camera guy needs a slap :D


Not all cars

yah, Harleys can move, esp the ones with big twins in them. They are torque monsters. And sportsters are pretty quick too, esp the new 1200's. Faster than a 325i for sure.

Im a HD Service Tech btw

yeah for a bike i can say that was pretty slow, from me riding a new jap bike.. but i can say i've ran harley in my car at a good roll, I raced a few harley's in my Porsche and i'd say i was a little ahead of him from about 50-110 with him not pulling on me at all..They are nothing comparied to a street bike... :alright

yeah for a bike i can say that was pretty slow, from me riding a new jap bike.. but i can say i've ran harley in my car at a good roll, I raced a few harley's in my Porsche and i'd say i was a little ahead of him from about 50-110 with him not pulling on me at all..They are nothing comparied to a street bike... :alright
nah there not, from a dead stop there good, but high rpm harleys arent too great.

nice death