So I'm cruising to my summer class(almost over!) and merging onto the route 10 I have to take to school. This route 10 is VERY open and has a soft, smooth road 3 lanes wide, but there are cops, 90% of the time on the weekend.

So I'm getting onto the on ramp and I notice this Steel Gray colored GTi coming down the route 10 already with speed, probably 65-70mph. I'm in 2nd gear about 30mph and accelerating normally to get to speed. He gets over to the right lane so that I can merge. I notice the badges were off and this kid had a damn nice looking GTi. I cruise until about 65mph and stay about car back and I notice he's looking in his mirror for me to get next to him, but I check the car first to see what I'm getting into...nice body kit, not too ricer, not too subtle either, exhaust, appeared to be 18-19'' riims, tint, non-stock side mirros. Definitely props to the guy, very nicely done car.

So we go on route 10 for almost a mile, then he gets in front me about 5-6 cars up and basically decides to LET OFF(probably because I wasn't instigating anything and he was getting frustrated :evil2 ) so he drops speed to about 40mph and I get to the middle lane and lay down on it somewhat in 5th and get past him with speed so he could hear my HIOP, track pipe, exhaust and intake in unison, most intoxicating sound you'll ever hear:D

So he switches over to my lane then the fast lane and gets about a 1/2 car up, it's on! I revmatch @80mph....wait...WHAT THE???!?!?! He goes WOT while I'm downshifting into 4th gear and he's a little over a car up on me. HELLLLLL NO. I nail 4th gear and he absolutely freezes in place. By the end of 4th, I get a nice 2 car lead. I shift into 5th and I think he left off or give up. So basically pulled 3 cars on him to about 130mph since he was up on me and the JUMP!!!!!!!!!

He gets next to me and waves...luckily, we pull out of the same exit and get to chat at the first light, my favorite part:

Him: "Damn. That thing pulls like a f'ing train, man!"

Me: "It's alright, I need to be faster..."

Him: "Sh**, I'd be happy with that...I have so much money into this thing."

Me: "What do you have done?"

Him: "Intake, headers, gutted cats, exhaust, chip, pullies, upgraded cams, throttle body and a fuel management device."

Me: "Nice...I'm pretty modded, too, though."

Him: "That's awesome, man. You should race my buddy in his E46 M3. That should be a close race..."

Me: " Well, you know where to find me..."

I gave him a thumbs up and pulled my window and we went out seperate ways. Nice guy, very nice looking car.

I gotta race his friend...my one challenge I definitely want to take is the E46 M3.

Maybe by the time that happens, the blower and cams will be on :devillook

He won't know what hit him...:)

Any GTi guys wanna chip in here? What is a car with those mods capable of 1/4 mile times? low-mid 14s? traps? Thanks all,,,

Wow!

Never really see modded VR6's, mostly 1.8T's are raping cars left and right.

almost done with summer classes lucky. i dont start till monday heh

almost done with summer classes lucky. i dont start till monday heh

That sucks...

One more week. Then I can fully put my time into getting this supercharger project done.

Boost, here I come! :redspot

Boost, here I come! :redspot

thats what i like to hear! :buttrock

just be careful messing with VR6's around here. we are in very close proximity to EIP tuning and they have turned out some pretty mean turbos. i rode in the white one featured on their website and it was obnoxiously fast.

I've seen and heard of VR6's with his mods run low 14's-high 13's.

It's no 1.8T though :stickoutt

(j/k!)

a vr with those mods only puts down about 195-200whp.

Armo95 why did you drop down to 4th at 80 mph, you should drop into 3rd at 80 mph, 3rd tops out 97 mph, much better. Good kill :alright

Armo95 why did you drop down to 4th at 80 mph, you should drop into 3rd at 80 mph, 3rd tops out 97 mph, much better. Good kill :alright

I'm guessing he has 3.38 :devillook

I've seen and heard of VR6's with his mods run low 14's-high 13's.

It's no 1.8T though :stickoutt

(j/k!)

About how fast are 1999.5 A4's 1.8T 5-spd w/ a APR chip? Like 1/4 mile?

Any GTi guys wanna chip in here? What is a car with those mods capable of 1/4 mile times? low-mid 14s? traps? Thanks all,,,

Those mods listed aren't huge power adders. I mean, the cams are nice but no cat really doesn't make ahuge difference until you're turbo'd (then he's GONE).
So, he's gotta still be under the 200hp mark..

What kind of mods does your car have (in non-bmw terms cause I'm not down with the bimmer acronyms...:)).

And btw, I've heard of all sorts of VR6's (mk3's) breaking the 14 barrier (if I remember correctly) with those types of mods but I think it's more the driver there...and *other* factors.

Later,

I'm guessing he has 3.38 :devillook

Exactly. I haven't done any calculations, but, I think 80mph it out of 3rd gear, so I was safe and 4th gear was enough to leave him pretty hard.

About how fast are 1999.5 A4's 1.8T 5-spd w/ a APR chip? Like 1/4 mile?

not that fast...14.5/95mph at best. A4's are dogs until you put on a bigger turbo. The weight kills those cars. The S4 is a much different story.

As for GTI VR6's, with all bolt ons they will not break the 200whp barrier, closer to 180-90's. European car also dynoed a s/c Corrado at 225 ish.

About how fast are 1999.5 A4's 1.8T 5-spd w/ a APR chip? Like 1/4 mile?

S-L-O-W in the 1/4. More fun with the chip...but still slow in a straigh line.

Here is an "official list" from AudiWorld users...1.8t's at the bottom are stock, then as the times get faster note the turbo changes.

ET MPH 60' Setup Timeslip/Mod lists
Lucas_GChips 12.126 112.93 1.820 nDBW/GIAC GT25
Audi R4R 12.624 115.35 2.027 nDBW/T3|T4
RS 12.773 105.63 1.704 nDBW/APR Stg3
markbradford 12.827 104.88 1.729 nDBW/APR Stg3
180q 12.941 106.16 1.894 nDBW/APR Stg3

WYSIWYG 13.100 104.71 1.850 nDBW/PES T28
x4rtic 13.236 104.16 1.856 2.0l/T3|T4
GJaime 13.272 104.82 1.825 DBW/APR Stg3
Toaster29 13.389 104.01 1.931 DBW/APR Stg3
Silroan(Matt) 13.464 103.27 2.006 DBW/APR Stg3
Afroquad 13.550 101.13 1.916 DBW/APR Stg3
Cbus T28 13.556 105.70 2.033 DBW/PES T28
CMH 13.567 106.60 2.094 DBW/PES T28
dingster 13.5xx 10x.xx 1.xxx DBW/APR Stg3
BOOSTD 13.699 100.51 1.981 DBW/APR Stg3
Liam 13.886 103.34 2.214 nDBW/PES T28
SilverAudi 13.954 102.5x 1.xxx 30v/NOS
shorki 13.991 99.06 1.967 DBW/PES T28
Ed P. 13.9xx 10x.xx 1.xxx DBW/APR Stg3

BTCC A4 14.17x 95.xx 2.xxx nDBW/GIAC K04
WYSIWYG 14.237 94.56 2.091 nDBW/AWE K04
CMH 14.297 97.27 1.972 DBW/GIAC K03(R)
Audigirl 14.3xx 97.xx 1.9xx DBW/GIAC K03(R)
Liam 14.5xx 93.xx 2.130 nDBW/AWE K04
JC (Boostlad) 14.644 94.32 2.180 nDBW/AWE K04
mike[1.8t] 14.664 92.95 2.022 DBW/GIAC K03(X)
maggiobomb 14.846 93.80 2.204 nDBW/Neu K04
tecnodianoetic 14.909 92.38 2.285 nDBW APR K03 FWD
stickerboy 14.918 92.26 1.973 DBW/APR K03

mmart6545 15.097 90.89 2.112 DBW/APR K03
turbodogvh 15.163 89.86 2.266 DBW/APR K03
runawayroger 15.566 86.70 2.143 MY01/Stock

Mirror|Mirror 16.173 82.93 2.216 MY98/Stock

I've also got a friend out in MD (Millersville, where ever that is) that has a turbo VR6 GTI. Hard to miss him, it's red with most of his front bumper hacked off so the intercooler will fit. You don't want to tangle with him unless you are running some serious mods (like the FI you're planning). His main limiting factor os traction....even with a Quaife. EIP aren't the only turbo VR6 players out your way.

But nice kill none the less. VR6 motors aren't really anything to laugh at, esp if some tuning has been done. They more the e36 325is killers then M3 killers, stock vs stock though. But since he was modded I suppose he HAD to give it a shot with you. Too bad it was more than he could chew!

not that fast...14.5/95mph at best. A4's are dogs until you put on a bigger turbo. The weight kills those cars. The S4 is a much different story.

As for GTI VR6's, with all bolt ons they will not break the 200whp barrier, closer to 180-90's. European car also dynoed a s/c Corrado at 225 ish.


Just for the record, the guy you ran put on some mods that don't help. The header, the throttle body and the fuel management (this is neglagible with the light mods on the car) really are a waste of money.

As for the Raddo in EC, I get P.O.'d every time I see its "progress". The mod route they took on it is something out of th mid 90's. There are much more efficient mods out now. For instance, the intake has been bettered by the Turn2 CAI and the Kent 264 cams are not that agressive. Aside from that, they are not great for FI. I bet if they would have gone the DSR 256 route they would have seen similar power NA and seen more once the SC was installed.

And for the money spent on the VF package, some smart shopping could have gotten about 200 at the wheels NA, vs the 216 from the initial stage one. Yeah, I know its less, but its much more impressive. Besides all that, there are SC companies whose stage one puts out numbers like VF's stage 2 and 3.

And that ridiculous Zender wing needs to go...

About that EC Corrado... while they call the 264 cams aggressive, I know people who run 288's on the street. While 264 really opens up the top end of that engine, they really should've gone all out.

Keep an eye out for the vr6 turbo's... I can drop most every lightly-modded vr6, but the turbo's pull like no-one's business

And btw, I've heard of all sorts of VR6's (mk3's) breaking the 14 barrier (if I remember correctly) with those types of mods but I think it's more the driver there...and *other* factors.

Later,

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