http://www.schattenbaum.org

A bunch of us went to the last PCA Schattenbaum event at Summit Pt. and it was awesome. Lots of seat time, great group of guys and affordable ($125), too. :buttrock

Hmm.

Tempting, tempting.

I'll have to give it some thought.

dude, if i can get my brake fluid changed and my pads changed this weekend i'll go..

jeff

dude, if i can get my brake fluid changed and my pads changed this weekend i'll go..

jeff


I had forgotten that I had already registered for this event at the same time I registered for the April event. Then, while surfing the site yesterday, I peeped the registration roll, and booyah . . . there's my name! Haha. :stickoutt

That would be great if you could roll. :alright Let me know if you need any help with the brake job. I have a pressure bleeder and other shit needed.

Garrett-

Do you have to join PCA to go to this? I am really temped. A good way to start off the long weekend...

aw man, i just realized i already took wednesday off to go see Spidey 2 !!!

hmmn, track or spidey, track or spidey,,,

decisions decisions

aw man, i just realized i already took wednesday off to go see Spidey 2 !!!

hmmn, track or spidey, track or spidey,,,

decisions decisions

Track with a Spiderman suit on.

Garrett-

Do you have to join PCA to go to this? I am really temped. A good way to start off the long weekend...


No you do not need to be a PCA member. Check the site for exact details. IIRC, its DIRT CHEAP.

EDIT: I just checked, its like $125 per day, depending on your run group (instructor or not).

No you do not need to be a PCA member. Check the site for exact details. IIRC, its DIRT CHEAP.

Cool. I'll fax it in tomorrow!

i'm game-

How agressive are the PCA events? I've heard some horror stories about them...Jed, are you going both days or just one?

in fact-before you fax in your stuff can you call me tommorow jed??
thanks!!

Just faxed him my registration form!

See you guys at Summit Point next week!!!! :buttrock

Just faxed him my registration form!

See you guys at Summit Point next week!!!! :buttrock

That's awesome!! Are you able to do just one day??

anyone have a fax machine i can borrow :D

Did you get a new set of tires??

Did you get a new set of tires??
working on that:D

what did you guys do ??? the sites down.. :mad:

can someone email me the form ?

garrett, wanna come by and show me how to do the brake fluid ?

Jeff

Greek, did you ever get my old Nero's from the shop?

The last Schattenbaum event was great. The guys were very cool and displayed proper track manners, for which I am a stickler :nono ;) Its the Potomac PCA that has gotten mixed reviews, not Schattenbaum PCA.

I know there has been a lot of banter lately about the dangers of tracking, etc. The dangers are real. Obviously, high speed circuit driving does present certain dangers. However, many of those dangers are at least partially within the driver's control. Different people have different priorities at the track. Some people want to demonstrate their superior skillz/car and pass as many cars as possible each session. Which is cool. Others just want to learn, have fun and get home with sound body and car. Which is also cool. The off-track excursions are usually, but not always, enjoyed by the former, and rarely by the latter. A lot of it is common sense. If you drive at 10/10th's, fail to pay attention to flag stations, enter corners only inches behind the car in front of you, refuse to give people passes, etc. then bad shit is more likiely to occur. Enough of that speech . . .

Jeff, sure I can show you. I have a pretty complete set of tools/jacks, an impact, etc., so it may be better for you to swing by my spot.
Its very easy to bleed/flush. You'll need 2 quarts of fluid (either super blue/gold or Motul 600).

Let me know.

no im calling them today about the tires, been sick for the past week :(

Garrett-

I assume you and Jeff are running Intermediate or Advanced? I signed up for novice so I can get an instructor. I'm still kinda shaken up by my spin at BeaveRun. But at least Summit is more familiar track.

For more info/assistance, contact these folks:

Safety and Tech
Dave Kalokitis
609-585-9119
tech@schattenbaum.org

Other Track information
Dan Petchel
609-298-2277
track@schattenbaum.org

Greg Harvell
Registrar
609-259-3593
registrar@schattenbaum.org

Also:

Summit Point Acceptance Letter:
http://www.schattenbaum.org/driversed/forms/spletter.pdf

Safety and Tech Form:
http://www.schattenbaum.org/driversed/forms/schtech04.pdf

See you guys at the track! :buttrock

Garrett-

I assume you and Jeff are running Intermediate or Advanced? I signed up for novice so I can get an instructor. I'm still kinda shaken up by my spin at BeaveRun. But at least Summit is more familiar track.

Last time they were very flexible re run groups. Kinda pick what you feel comfortable with, grab an instructor, or not, it was up to you pretty much. We were all rolling solo last time. Made for a fun time. I have no idea what run group i'm registered for. They use different colors for different groups - I forget which color is which group.

do they really care if my windshield has a crack on the bottom of it where it does not affect my view at all?

George, are you doing both days??

do they really care if my windshield has a crack on the bottom of it where it does not affect my view at all?

Doubtful. Besides, I'm sure if you were to develpo such a crack on your way to the track, they'd be undersyanding and let you run. :D

jed, if i can get into the novice group i will, this will be my first run in the e30 m3 so i don't want all these drivers on my ass as i get used to the car...

jeff

jed, if i can get into the novice group i will, this will be my first run in the e30 m3 so i don't want all these drivers on my ass as i get used to the car...

jeff

This is a good idea, especially since you'll be rockin' a spiderman costume :eek:

you just don't want me in your way :D

hey lets set up a time this weekend to do the brake thingy

jeff

This is a good idea, especially since you'll be rockin' a spiderman costume :eek:
This should be an interesting event. JLee in a spiderman costume and George in his usual sheep costume.

:ausw_6

---Eric

hey lets set up a time this weekend to do the brake thingy

jeff

I'll have to let you know tomorrow. My old lady is out of town today at a funeral, and I forget what all she has planned for us this weekend. :rolleyes: But we'll get it done.

Hey hey...don't knock the spidey costume till you've seen it :stickoutt


come'on...spiderman 2 is going to be awesome :redspot

Jeff

hey are you guys getting a tech inspection done ????

i don't think i have time to bring the car anywhere to get inspected... :confused:

Hey hey...don't knock the spidey costume till you've seen it :stickoutt


come'on...spiderman 2 is going to be awesome :redspot

Jeff
Do you have this?

---Eric

hey are you guys getting a tech inspection done ????

i don't think i have time to bring the car anywhere to get inspected... :confused:

I use "the wise guy" for such emergency service. He makes house calls, does a fine job, etc. . . .
I'd post his number, as I'm sure he'd appreciate the biz, but I don't want to go down that road . . .
So PM me if you lack his digits.

I am in a dilemma, I would like to go, only for friday. However, I just installed my racing seats last night. Fixed back ... no roll bar yet. So, not sure if I should go or not. I would be in white group. Then again, $125 for a track day, damn ... so cheap ... :eek:

do they really care if my windshield has a crack on the bottom of it where it does not affect my view at all?

I'm going to take a grease pencil and circle it. Then I'll bring it to the attention of the inspector. :D

I am in a dilemma, I would like to go, only for friday. However, I just installed my racing seats last night. Fixed back ... no roll bar yet. So, not sure if I should go or not. I would be in white group. Then again, $125 for a track day, damn ... so cheap ... :eek:

James-

I am only going to do Thursday because I can't really take 2 days off at the end of a week before a long holiday. Plus I am going to OC Friday. I talked to the guy and he said we can split it. I'll take Thurs and you can take Friday-you just need to send him your app. Call him first if you fax it so that he can turn on the fax machine.

hey are you guys getting a tech inspection done ????

i don't think i have time to bring the car anywhere to get inspected... :confused:

I had Dan Martin in Gaithersburg do mine. He did it for free.

James-
Plus I am going to be a racecar driver on OC Friday.

Dude, you are going to be a RACECAR driver on OC? That show has some hot azzz biatchezzzzz on it!!!

Way to team.bar dat shyt! :buttrock

Guys come to Bimmerfest east that weekend!! You can get a track day on Friday and the show and vendor areas on Saturday! Come hang out with the Bimmer contingent, this event is a pretty big deal for the enthusiast BMW community... :)

How far is Beaverun ???

How far is Beaverun ???

Took like 3 1/2-4 hours from Baltimore.

Guys come to Bimmerfest east that weekend!! You can get a track day on Friday and the show and vendor areas on Saturday! Come hang out with the Bimmer contingent, this event is a pretty big deal for the enthusiast BMW community... :)

Would love to go! Unfortunately, my old lady does not share my excitement for rolling-out to Pitt to gawk at bimmers for 4th of July weekend. And if I left her and went solo, I'd get no ass for weeks . . . :rolleyes: Certainly can't have that.

Why did they schedule it for the 4th?! In Pitt no less!? A time/place where no hoes wanna go? Bad idea . . .

Whew! Got scheduled for a tech inspection at Induktion Motorsports up near Columbia!

Whew! Got scheduled for a tech inspection at Induktion Motorsports up near Columbia!
dude when are you doing it, i need one too.

dude when are you doing it, i need one too.
Trying for another Goup buy? :D

---Eric

i wish this was on a weekend. no vacation left :(

i tried to get into, the novice groups are all full... :(

well i guess im accepted :D they sent me the letter back! I'll see you guys thurs!

JLee-im only going thurs, maybe you can take my friday spot.

I might come out Thurs. afternoon to cheerlead.

I'll be there both days too! I'll see you guys there!! ;)

btw, Jed, I'm going in OC on sat. morning and come back on monday, 'cos I'm doing NJ CCA's advance DE on Tue too. may be I'll see you there! ;) (not taking my car, too lazy to swap back tires, etc., I'll be in a blue X3 & a white STi)

I'll be there both days too! I'll see you guys there!! ;)

btw, Jed, I'm going in OC on sat. morning and come back on monday, 'cos I'm doing NJ CCA's advance DE on Tue too. may be I'll see you there! ;) (not taking my car, too lazy to swap back tires, etc., I'll be in a blue X3 & a white STi)
see ya there gary!!!


I just realized the Greece soccer game is on thurs:( I will miss the game :(:(:(

Just found out that my boy, Wise, is now w/ RRT in Chantilly. This is great news - they have da hot shit, yo! :alright

George and I got our tech inspections at Induktion Motorsports and we are good to go for this week!!!! The owner, Ed is running too! :buttrock

Looking forward to seeing you guys out there!

Jeff and Nick-are you guys coming??

Yeah I actually got in the Green group without an instructor but now the head of my department called an all-hands management meeting on thursday :mad:

My car is at Dan's now and if I can get it in time wednesday and blow this meeting off, i should be there, otherwise I will probably be there Friday only if they let me.

Jeff

Yeah I actually got in the Green group without an instructor but now the head of my department called an all-hands management meeting on thursday :mad:

My car is at Dan's now and if I can get it in time wednesday and blow this meeting off, i should be there, otherwise I will probably be there Friday only if they let me.

Jeff

Tell him you have a RACE-he will understand.

Whos going to be there Friday ?

Jed, my car is at Dans and as usual...I get the "you need this" call...

So it won't be ready till Thurs if ready

Jeff

Whos going to be there Friday ?

Jed, my car is at Dans and as usual...I get the "you need this" call...

So it won't be ready till Thurs if ready

Jeff

Doh!!!!! That sucks!!!! :(

I think James said he will be there Friday.

yeesh, are you on 24/7 ?

your not on AOL...

jeff

what does your car need?

See you guys thursday, tomorrow! :)

apparently another $1000... :mad:

I lost count on how much i spent, i just don't wanna know :(

jeff


what does your car need?

A grand?! Damn. I wanna be your tech. :D

Weather is supposed to be about perfect. Woohoo!
See you guys in the A.M. Damn it is the A.M. . . . I better get to bed. :rolleyes:

Laterz

well i cant make it guys, after installing my new wheels and tires there was a loud clanking noise.......couldnt figure it out and i said f-ck it. :(

On a better note i now get to watch the Greece soccer game :D

George,

That stinks. So, right after you installed your wheels it started making that noise??

Hey, does anyone know, is there a "tech inspection" form or is it just this "safety inspection" form that owners can fill out ?

i think its just the safety inspection form-i think you need to get it filled out by a mechanic.


andy-thats exactly right

Hey is anyone going to this tomorrow ?

Trying to find some people to caravan.

Jeff

Hey is anyone going to this tomorrow ?

Trying to find some people to caravan.

Jeff

Nah dude, we had our fun today. :stickoutt

Actually I think Garrett is going back tomorrow. Too bad you didn't come out today-my friend brought his track prepped E30 M3.

If anyone knows how to get in touch with LandShark today, have him call 770.631.6779 - Dan Law re: his suspension.

Wow. Today was even better than yesterday. Weather was perfect. Even fewer students. Gary and Jeff showed-up. Jeff blew the head gasket on his e30 - sucks :( But otherwise, it was a great outing.

I finally began to gel with the car's new changes (big neg camber and R-Comps) and started to really hustle the car. I think my pressures were too high yesterday, or the tires were just too new. Plus, I was afraid that they would just "break-away" without warning, if pushed beyond their limits - you know how folks be talkin' about R-Comps . . . But anyway, I am a fan of them now (P Zero Corsa's). More grip than a street tire, but very similar break-away characteristics - very communicative and predictable. Nice rubber. :D

Wow. Today was even better than yesterday. Weather was perfect. Even fewer students. Gary and Jeff showed-up. Jeff blew the head gasket on his e30 - sucks :( But otherwise, it was a great outing.

Uuggghh, don't even remind me... :mad:


Jeff

Uuggghh, don't even remind me... :mad:


Jeff

Damn Jeff...

Sorry to hear that. :( That really sucks...

Jeff blew the head gasket on his e30

that's the way it goes man :eek: ...I've blown it twice!! It'll be kinda expensive to replace (mostly labor) and you better hope the head is not cracked otherwise the cost goes up....

and a bit of advice...I would have someone who is real good do the work otherwise it will blow again... pick your shop wisely;)

Is that a common problem with E30 M3's??

Turned out to be a false alarm! Jeff was a lil "over-protective" of his sled.

Turned out to be a false alarm! Jeff was a lil "over-protective" of his sled.

Well, that's why he should turn it into a show car! ;)

Whew! That's good. What happened to make him think that he did blew a headgasket?

Garrett-

Good to hear the changes in your car are working out for you! :buttrock Those Corsas were hot as hell when you pulled into the paddock.

that's the way it goes man :eek: ...I've blown it twice!! It'll be kinda expensive to replace (mostly labor) and you better hope the head is not cracked otherwise the cost goes up....

and a bit of advice...I would have someone who is real good do the work otherwise it will blow again... pick your shop wisely;)
Sunir-I know you know a lot about m3's so I want to ask you a question. When my car's temp guage is in the red after a session and I know I am overheating and am warping my head I should go back on the track to run another session, right? I just want to make sure, becuase I know you know a lot about stuff like this. Thanks bro



j/k sunir ;) :D

Sunir-I know you know a lot about m3's so I want to ask you a question. When my car's temp guage is in the red after a session and I know I am overheating and am warping my head I should go back on the track to run another session, right? I just want to make sure, becuase I know you know a lot about stuff like this. Thanks bro



j/k sunir ;) :D

:lol:

We are gonna miss you, Georgie.

that's why now I bring my own private engine builder to the track on my staff of 3...cheif mechanic, massage therapist etc... :eek: :D :stickoutt

no seriously, if your in the red bring 'er on in...bleed the system again, you could just be having a stubborn air pocket (like what happened to me at Putnam 2 weeks ago...we thought we were out of the races, but it just turned out to be an air pocket)...

the key is if you spot oil and water mixing (check the oil from the pan or check the water in the reservior)...then you have issues with either a head gasket or cracked head...pull it onto the trailer and pack it on up at that point :( ...

Sunir-I know you know a lot about m3's so I want to ask you a question. When my car's temp guage is in the red after a session and I know I am overheating and am warping my head I should go back on the track to run another session, right? I just want to make sure, becuase I know you know a lot about stuff like this. Thanks bro



j/k sunir ;) :D

:lol:

George-

Bring me back a Greek/English dictionary. I was talking to this really pretty Greek girl on Sunday night and in a drunken stupor with my very few Greek words managed to say "hello a$$hole" 15 minutes into the conversation. Unimpressive. :(

Well apparently, my mechanic found nothing in the coolant...I could have swore I saw what looked like an oil slick in the reservoir tank but I must have been seeing things. my guy says the car is a-ok.. yeesh...i think this car has pushed me over the edge to where I am seeing things.

So I'll take it back out there...

Just as some feedback, the E30 M3 is truly a momentum car as its been described to me.....its so much more responsive and communicative than the E36, but it does lag the torque and power....like everytime i caught up to the P cars on the twisties I didn't have the power to overtake quickly...so I would lose them on 9-10 and down to Turn 1...

So thats a little frustrating. But definitely a fun fun car...and the gears are so close you have to be alot more attentive to shifting...my car kept bouncing off the redline cause I was forgetting to shift.

I'm thinking if there are any events in July I'll do one more then sit out August since its soo damn hot and get back in in Sept.

jeff

:lol:

George-

Bring me back a Greek/English dictionary. I was talking to this really pretty Greek girl on Sunday night and in a drunken stupor with my very few Greek words managed to say "hello a$$hole" 15 minutes into the conversation. Unimpressive. :(
I'd say "Unimpressive" is an understatement. She actually looked a little pissed off. :stickoutt

---Eric

I'd say "Unimpressive" is an understatement. She actually looked a little pissed off. :stickoutt

---Eric

Nah, she was just indifferent to everything. But luckily there were the others towards the end of the night. You should've stuck around.

Nah, she was just indifferent to everything. But luckily there were the others towards the end of the night. You should've stuck around.
There was no way I was going to stick around... It was difficult enough finding a cab. Can you imagine how bad it would have been if I'd waited until you guys left?

---Eric

There was no way I was going to stick around... It was difficult enough finding a cab. Can you imagine how bad it would have been if I'd waited until you guys left?

---Eric

You could've been the guy taking the hit with "angry friend" (very similar to "bitchy friend") who was swarming trying to jeopardize the mission. Actually I called her out on that. I looked at her and said "You are the angry friend of the group, aren't you?" Pete and Mark were rolling and she sat there with her mouth open in shock then started laughing. She warmed up to me, but it would've been easier if you took the hit initially.

Ends up she lives in Ellicott City and hangs out in Rockville and Bethesda and knows the places we go to and knows the bartender at Clyde's also (Jed).

The girl I was hanging out with (same one from Sat night-I finally got to her on Sunday night at the end) lives only a couple miles from me.

You also would've been handy to take care of crutch girl. She was psycho.

Garrett-

Good to hear the changes in your car are working out for you! :buttrock Those Corsas were hot as hell when you pulled into the paddock.

Yeah, but this morning when I swapped back to my street rubber, I noticed that the driver's side Corsa's had chunked pretty good - more than my Nero's ever did (they never chunked). And the Corsa's were shaved and cycled by the Rack. They did not hold-up nearly as well as I would have expected. So, I doubt I'll get much better wear from these than I do from the MUCH cheaper Nero's. :rolleyes: They felt great though . . .

You could've been the guy taking the hit with "angry friend" (very similar to "bitchy friend") who was swarming trying to jeopardize the mission. Actually I called her out on that. I looked at her and said "You are the angry friend of the group, aren't you?" Pete and Mark were rolling and she sat there with her mouth open in shock then started laughing. She warmed up to me, but it would've been easier if you took the hit initially.

Ends up she lives in Ellicott City and hangs out in Rockville and Bethesda and knows the places we go to and knows the bartender at Clyde's also (Jed).

The girl I was hanging out with (same one from Sat night-I finally got to her on Sunday night at the end) lives only a couple miles from me.

You also would've been handy to take care of crutch girl. She was psycho.
Crutch girl? I'll pass on the psycho. I've got a bad habit of going out with psychos. :eyecrazy:

Now I'm really glad I left early. :cool:

---Eric

Yeah, but this morning when I swapped back to my street rubber, I noticed that the driver's side Corsa's had chunked pretty good - more than my Nero's ever did (they never chunked). And the Corsa's were shaved and cycled by the Rack. They did not hold-up nearly as well as I would have expected. So, I doubt I'll get much better wear from these than I do from the MUCH cheaper Nero's. :rolleyes: They felt great though . . .

Wow, that's crazy. Have you ever considered Kumho Victoracers?

yeah, it was fun and glad to meet you all!! :cool:

here's a clip when I was playing mouse and cat with a silver 996TT >> chasing TT (http://www.landshark-racing.com/landshark/video/Chasing996TT.wmv)

jlee, I'm glad she is ok!! :)

garrette, I'm still drooling over you seat man!! http://members.roadfly.org/landshark1/drool.gif

I didn't get back to this thread 'cos I went to OC the whole weekend, just got back last night. overall, very nice and relaxing too especially after 2 straight hot track days. however, I had a little accident when I was riding a scooter at OC and hurt my right knee... man, it's not easy (and hurt!) to swapping tires and pads with a injuried knee....

Jed - Yeah, I've considered the Victo's. They don't really have a good 18" size for me, though. I heard great things about the Corsa, and it came in a 255/35/18, so it sounded like the hot ticket. Pablo M. ran 225/40/18's on his stage 4 turbo M3 and loved the wear characteristics. Go figure? It may be my driving style, i don't know. I have a weird (I think fast :confused: ) way of taking turn one (I don't fully track-out) that sometimes results in some "push" if done sloppily. I may need to play around w/ front pressures a lil more too. Plus, it was also DAMN hot out there on day 2 . . .
When these are gone, i might try a pilot Sport Comp in a 235/40/18.

Gary - HOT car. Too bad we NEVER met-up on the track . . . which is hard to imagine over the course of at least 8 sessions :eyecrazy: I wanted to see that sucker in action . . .

Gary - HOT car. Too bad we NEVER met-up on the track . . . which is hard to imagine over the course of at least 8 sessions :eyecrazy: I wanted to see that sucker in action . . .
yeah, I was surprised too! and I couldn't find that black GT3 neither which I hope I could run behind him and do some filming too.

well, I'm sure we'll have more chances in the future. I'm going to the NJ chapter's CCA DE in Aug. too. (much much easier to get in than our NCC chapter!!)