yo guys.. i was cruisin around just after i paid off a speeding ticket and was thinking "time to drive a bit slower" when a new gt comes flying around me. needless to say i forgot about getting pulled over for speeding the night before... so were cruisin down Telegraph road racing at every stop light. a coupla times i would spin em at the launch and he would jump on me but i would always pull towards him... then we both finally got a good run, i launched perfectly and so did he and pulled on him a carlength and he couldnt catch up... i just love knowing that my inline 3.0 whooped a 4.6 v8... oh, at some points we were both doin over 100 in a 45 mph zone.. just imagine if i woulda got caught.. not too cool.. hehehe

I DESTROYED a new GT convert. on the freeway the other night, it wasnt even close. from about 60-130 i got many many car lengths. He had two passengers though, but still it was not even a challenge.

Nice one, Dupa! Didn't you race one of those Bullitt edition ones before?

Originally posted by Rel44 M3
Nice one, Dupa! Didn't you race one of those Bullitt edition ones before?

Thats odd... I've seen a Buillitt whoop an LS1 Camaro :dunno .

Originally posted by Anfanger


Thats odd... I've seen a Buillitt whoop an LS1 Camaro :dunno .

I remember him racing a Bullitt Mustang, I didn't say I remember him beating one. ;)

a Mustang Bullit isnt anything amazing.. its hardly better then a normal mustang.. its mostly an appearance package

Originally posted by Stockman
a Mustang Bullit isnt anything amazing.. its hardly better then a normal mustang.. its mostly an appearance package

Well enough has been done apparently... it jumped ahead of the Z28, which never caught up. By numbers, there is no way in hell that could have happened. Just one of those odd things, like I said... :95

its got a whopping 10hp more then the GT
and 40hp less then a Z28...

(these are from manufacturer claimed ratings... GM tends to underrate.. and ford tends to overrate their pony cars)

Its a fluke if a bullitt beat a new LS1

Gearing, its all about the gearing....

So the Bullitt's got absolutely no top end then, if the gears are shorter?

Originally posted by Rel44 M3
So the Bullitt's got absolutely no top end then, if the gears are shorter?

It's possible the gearing is for acceleration... but I don't remember Ford mentioning a re-done diff or transmission on the Bullitt, but I might be wrong :dunno .

Actually, it's turned out that Ford admits only 5 hp more in a Bullitt than a run of the mill GT. They had planned on 10, but found it really wasn't there. They admitted to it prior to production because they didn't want another 99 Cobra episode once owners took the cars to dynos (dynoes??). The torque curve, however is lower and wider and feels more like the pushrod cars of old than the other 4.6 modulars.

Here's a quote from a Ford press release about the cars:

Driving dynamics
Relentless pursuit for performance appears in its specifications. The Mustang Bullitt GT is equipped with a 4.6-liter SOHC V-8 engine modified to improve airflow. Modifications include twin 57 mm bore throttle body, cast aluminum intake manifold, high-flow mufflers for increased power and aggressive performance sound and optimized alternator and pump pulley ratios. The engine produces 265 horsepower and a broader torque curve compared with the Mustang GT engine. Its performance-handling package includes re-valved struts and shocks, unique stabilizer bars (front and rear) and frame rail connectors. The vehicle is lowered three-fourths of an inch to generate improved handling characteristics. Thirteen-inch Brembo front rotors and performance calipers provide impressive stopping capability. The calipers are painted red and are visible through the 17-inch wheel spokes when the car is parked or when it is cruising the streets of San Francisco.


The rest can be found here: http://www.motorcities.com/articles/01mustangbullitt.html

It doesn't mention anything about gearing. I believe they should have the standard 3.27 tail gears.

As for a Bullitt beating an LS1, it's all about the driver. Superior drivers can make up for inferior power.

Originally posted by evlgt85
Actually, it's turned out that Ford admits only 5 hp more in a Bullitt than a run of the mill GT. They had planned on 10, but found it really wasn't there. They admitted to it prior to production because they didn't want another 99 Cobra episode once owners took the cars to dynos (dynoes??). The torque curve, however is lower and wider and feels more like the pushrod cars of old than the other 4.6 modulars.


Sweet.. lets go drop 4 grand for a badge, hood, gas tank flap, shiftgate, and a few other accessories!

5hp.. ahaha.. I'm sorry but I lost respect for the mustang since they started with the pos 4.6... ford can market the car... I'll give them that

Originally posted by evlgt85

It doesn't mention anything about gearing. I believe they should have the standard 3.27 tail gears.

Hmmm...Speaking of gearing....Way back in '98 when the '99 GT was announced I couldn't figure out why in the hell the 260hp GT could hang w/ the 305hp Cobra. So I looked at the gearing of the trannies and the GT had much shorter gears (According to two different C&D reviews of the Cobra and GT). But I can't find any information online to confirm this, in fact, everything I find says the two cars have identicle gearing start to finish. So I guess the question is: How in the hell does the '99 GT hang w/ the '96-'98 Cobra and Z28 w/ 40+ fewer ponies?

Originally posted by Stockman

5hp.. ahaha.. I'm sorry but I lost respect for the mustang since they started with the pos 4.6... ford can market the car... I'll give them that

Stock, the modular 4.6 is ALOT better than the old 5.0, which is a dinosaur by comparison. In terms or everything - reliability, output, efficiency, the 4.6 is better than the 5.0.

Originally posted by JasonJ75
So I guess the question is: How in the hell does the '99 GT hang w/ the '96-'98 Cobra?

GT's, wait, let me rephrase that to '99+ GT's ('96-'98 GT's in a word, suck:stickoutt ) have more low end torque compared to the DOHC Cobra's. Drivers being equal, the '99+ GT and the DOHC Cobras would be door to door til the higher speeds where the Cobra's power kicks in and starts to pull away :)


BTW: 1st post on this board. I'm sort of a BMW fan. I love German cars, I drool over my neighbor's M3 on a daily basis :D

Poisoned Pony, thanks for the post and welcome. So what year M3 does your neighbor have?

An FYI on the Bullitt difference from the GT is,

- Twin 57mm bore TB
- Cast aluminum intake manifold
- high flow mufflers
- optimized alternator and pump pulley ratios.


A buddy of mine has one....it definitely is stronger than a stock GT. It's not going to be stock much longer. It has an X-pipe with no cats on it right now.......we still got pullled by a LS1 Z28 on the big end...but he we were there much longer than I expected. He didn't start pulling til mid 4th from a 50 punch.

Originally posted by Rel44 M3
Poisoned Pony, thanks for the post and welcome. So what year M3 does your neighbor have?

white '98. Really nice one

Originally posted by Anfanger


Stock, the modular 4.6 is ALOT better than the old 5.0, which is a dinosaur by comparison. In terms or everything - reliability, output, efficiency, the 4.6 is better than the 5.0.

Uh huh.. sure it is..

Tell me.. In terms of modifying it.. you got 3 grand.. which will get you further? the 4.6 or 5.0?

I can go pull out my Jegs or Summit catalog and find MANY MANY more parts and cheaper parts for the 5.0 then the 4.6

Originally posted by Stockman


Uh huh.. sure it is..

Tell me.. In terms of modifying it.. you got 3 grand.. which will get you further? the 4.6 or 5.0?

I can go pull out my Jegs or Summit catalog and find MANY MANY more parts and cheaper parts for the 5.0 then the 4.6

Well in terms of modification, yea you're right, a 5.0 is alot better. The same is true for any older engine. You just called the 4.6 a pos, and I was stating it is very non-pos-like :stickoutt .

Guess that would make my 3.2 a POS compared to the '95 3.0??

;)

Originally posted by Anfanger


Well in terms of modification, yea you're right, a 5.0 is alot better. The same is true for any older engine. You just called the 4.6 a pos, and I was stating it is very non-pos-like :stickoutt .

For a pony car.. it is!

Give me a break.. 260hp? and well.. thats what they rate it as :rolleyes: