Wassup all! Today i was lucky enough to get to drive my uncles 911 turbo (1986). It has roughly 350 hp, that's what im told anyway. ANyhoo today guc32 and I came to a stop light and we had racing on our minds. I put the car in 1st, pushed in the clutch revved up to 3k rpms... waited for the ligh. Green comes around, i let out the clutch im brace as ....i bog. Off goes guc32 in his 99 dakar m3, i dont lose hope. I gun it, at this point he has roughly a 3-4 car lead, we are in a 35 zone. In second gear i hit about 85 mph and pass him. Mind you this all happened in about a one block distance. The porche was a 4 spd manual. Damn this thing could move! I ate up the distance on guc32 like he was standing still! He could not believe it. I gave him a call on the phone just to make fun of him some more! I do realize this was an unfair race, but man did i make up the four car length deficit very quickly! I usually drive a 325 and guc32 whips on me, it was nice to finally be in the faster car! :boobies

mmmmmmm
flat six twin-turboed

Originally posted by mpbmw318is
mmmmmmm
flat six twin-turboed


Yeah it's an amazing beast. I want it
4 piston calipers at all four corners, it was amazing.

4 speed? Hmm...I always thought those had 5. But can't diss the '86's... those are a classic. Wouldn't mind getting one. I love how the fenders flare out.

The 930 Turbos came out with the 5 speed in 89. The 930 is light, and can accomodate some serious rubber for the power it puts out. I've been looking into getting one for a long time now...

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I have been half way shopping for the right '89 as well - what kind of prices are you seeing???

BTW this porche is for sale. My uncle's dealership has it for 31,900. If that is of interest to anyone. It's advertised on yahoo.com, also in the north bay california autotrader magazines, and the local newspapers. He can get it shipped any where. It's a flawless ride.

I owned an 87 911 Turbo and they are very quick cars. If I were shopping again, I would prefer the 89+ with the five-speed, but the fourspeed doesn't hobble the car like you think it might.

It takes some time to get used to the floor-loading pedals, and the shifter isn't like a Miata or S2000.

The rear engine really allows the car to bite hard, and the fender flares let some decent size rubber in.

One thing I really liked was how the car held it's value. I put lots of miles on, and after years of ownership I sold it for nearly what I paid for it.

A thing I didn't like was the frequent valve adjustments and HUGE parts prices. Forget letting anyone but a specialist touch the car, and they don't come cheap.

what do you mean by floor loading pedals?

On your BMW, the pedals are "hinged" above the foot pad. On the 911 (up to 996) the pedals are hinged under the floor. The pedal shaft rises from a slot on the floor.

It's different than most people are used to, and takes a couple journeys to get used to.

Look in an old VW Bettle. The mighty 911 Turbo has some very humble cousins...

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Toe-Heeling is a whole new learning experience in a Porsche. I drove my buddies heavily modded 95 Carrera, and I could barely do what I can do in my M. In fact he doesn't toe heel much at all because of the funky peday configuration.

Prices I've seen have been between 28K-35K for a clean 89 5 speed. There are a few of them out there, with mods, and big tires etc..
You need a serious budget to maintain that car.
Plus it's not really a daily driver. AT ALL :nono

The heating and AC systems on '80's vintage 911 Turbos are a joke compared to "modern" cars.

If you use it as a daily driver, count on having the driveline out every year for a major service.

The turbo uses unique brake components, and parts are big bucks. If you drive the car at anything more than granny-pace, those brakes wear fairly quickly.

Electrical systems are okay, but failures can make you broke quick fast and in a hurry. Power seats fail and sunroofs aren't too reliable either.

Engines are very durable if cared for. DON'T buy a turbo that does not have impeccable service records. Don't worry about rock chips...worry about servicing and oil changes.

There are TONS of tuner parts, and they are ENORMOUSLY expensive. It's not too hard to take a stock 300hp turbo and turn it into a tire-chewing 400+hp demon, it just takes a thick wallet.

It's possible to drive a 911 Turbo very fast, but it takes training and time to develop that skill. It drives nothing like your front engined performance BMW cars. Trailing throttle oversteer has been tamed on new cars, but pre 993 models are vicious dogs that bite unskilled owners.

As to numbers, my bone stock 300hp Turbo handily ran 13.0 at 108 with slicks. Some minor mods brought 330hp to the table, and 12's appeared. Newer TT's are low 12's.

Alas, my daughter's birth and my return to grad school meant "bye-bye" Porsche. My wife called it "The %^^$ money pit!"