Coming back from work tonight, I see this Maxima coming up fast behind me as I'm about to enter the same tunnel in which I raced the Lexus IS300 and the G35 Coupe the other day.

I speed up and match his pace, but this guy is really flying. We're about to enter the long downhill right hander, and since it's only around 50°F here tonight (our spring really sucks this year), I'm again concerned with the grip (or lack thereof) of my S-03s... :az:

He passes a car on the left, me on the right, and we enter the turn. I slow down to avoid crashing, but I'm starting to be able to feel the limits of my car better everyday (keep in mind, it's only been out for a month and it's been cold).

Well, well... look who can't hang in the twisties... :D It takes an eternity for him to reach my door, and then again, we're back on the straight, so... I see that it's a Maxima GLE, last year of the previous gen, because he had those ghey semi-altezzas (but stock) taillights. Oh dear, 255 hp, right? :help

Twisties
Z3 : 1
Maxima : 0

I follow him on the straight, but we're about to hit traffic, so I don't make it a point to really push hard.

Straight
Z3 : ?
Maxima : ?

We're behind a bunch of cars in the left lane... but this guy just can't wait, he dives into an opening to his right, and proceeds to pass all cars. Now, what's ahead is a nice series of S-curves...
:devillook
I follow switfly, and even if I'm really careful in these curves (read : I let off as needed to make sure I don't spin/drift into the concrete barrier), I catch him up by the middle of the turn.

Twisties
Z3 : 1
Maxima : 0

Having let off to avoid following him too closely, he has a little gap, and we now exit the turn, I'm in 4th, around 90-93 mph :alright , the tires grip more than I thought, and we're both WOT. As my puny 2.8 takes its sweet-a$$ time to climb in the revs :rolleyes: (can't wait to install the M50 intake manifold!), he creeps away from me, but not the all-out rape I was expecting. In fact, he gained probably 1 to 1½ car length, but by the end of 4th (6400 rpm), he stopped gaining. :)

Straight
Z3 : 0
Maxima : 1


He then braked to take his exit, but didn't look over. Moron. :rolleyes:

I see someone that can respect the maxima...now had it just been a SE 6 speed....

That's what I was about to ask, GLEs are slushboxes, right? That explains a lot. And let's just say that with the way the S-03s generally fail to grip in cold weather, this guy should've hung with me better in the twisties as well. He just didn't know how. But Maximas are great cars. Mad props to the previous gen.
:)

I dont remember Maxima's ever being slow :az:

Don't race maxima's if you wanna start a winning streak Hugo ;)

The autos can be quick, but just not in stock form. Got a friend that runs 12's in his auto 2k2 maxima. But my step dad drives a Z3, so I also know how much fun they can be :) I like both cars, I guess it all depends on if you need room for the family as well.

My old 92 SE 5 speed is actually just as quick as my 328.. lots of bang-for-the-buck with those cars.

a stock suspension maxima isn't going to handle like a bmw....but in a straight line CAN be a different story...and yes GLE's are heavy autos...although autos arent bad in that gen...there is a 2k2 SE auto here in nc running 12's

http://forums.maxima.org/images/smilies/peepwall.gif twisties? :devillook

lol is max-world taking over bimmer forums or something?

A lot more people respect Maximas on this site than you thought, huh?

:)

i eat maximas for lunch!!, were u at luckee2beehere? :devillook

i used to have a 94 maxima, those are some good cars

i used to do that too but i'm getting heart burn now............

I gave my friend's supercharged Solara a run for it's money, I was actually ahead until the end of 3rd (he couldn't launch to save his life). Mine is a 98 5-spd. Yeah Maximas are taking over:D

GLE's were the lux model - autos only, then you had the GXE's (base) and the SE's (sportier suspension)

They will not hang with your car in the twisties, ever. But I will put money on it - my beater 98 Max against the supertrapped wonder:D Straight line that ishttp://forum.e46fanatics.com/images/smilies/woot.gif

Hugo, you really need to do those upgrades.... I'd eat up a Maxima right now.

I killed a 330Ci and 540 today, but I expected to win so it wasn't that dig a deal. The mid 30's 540 driver didn't expect to lose my a couple car lengths though!

Cam kit ~ 245 hp (crank) & a little low on torque as compared to the S52.
S52 with CAI only can run 13.5 to 13.7. They have a 3.15 diff to our 2.98, but we're 2800 lbs to their 3200 lbs. I figure I should be ~ as fast, maybe a little worse as in 13.8 to 14.1 ish but definetly faster than most cars.

We have a 3.15.

I just thought it was funny....pezking...my rooamte btw and Mrgone are both max-world and maxima.org members that I know really well...and good to know there is love for maximas here....when I started to drive the M3 I started missing it

Nice twisties & death Hugo. I was beginning to wonder when I'd see some of that famed "no win policy" of yours. :D

Any info on that cam kit, StouffvilleZ3? What does it consist of and what does it do? Getting over 50hp it seems like a great mod to do!

Nice runs, Hugo. I'm not too surprised you took him in the twisties, didn't the last gen Maxima have a solid beam rear axle along with the FWD (ala a 1990 Chevy Cavalier)??

Yes, beam rear axle. :az:

Dazed, S52 cams + M50 intake manifold + software = + or - 40 hp.

Yes, beam rear axle. :az:

Dazed, S52 cams + M50 intake manifold + software = + or - 40 hp.

Would a CAI and exhaust help with those mods or would they be wasted?

It helps, every bit helps.

Nice runs, Hugo. I'm not too surprised you took him in the twisties, didn't the last gen Maxima have a solid beam rear axle along with the FWD (ala a 1990 Chevy Cavalier)??

yeah, 89-94 had IRS, 95-03 had solid.

Dazed,

Dyno's on the www.sharked.com website show 209 rwhp, using the industry standard 15% drivetrain loss this equates to 240.35 hp. I believe they had an exhaust and CAI when this dyno was run. The only thing I have in addition to this is a high flow cat, which gives a really cool sound but any gain is negligable. Cats generally don't give more than 3 hp. My next mod is fan delete, then a custom ground kit. I've just been holding off on the ground kit until I get a stable milage reading from the cam kit. So far I'm at 10.3 litres per 100km. Previously I averaged 9.3.

The difference in power is substantial, but my time on my banshee has me kind of immune to being affected by a quick car. Nothing gives the feeling of acceleration as well as that thing.

On topic, the cam kit is available only for single Vanos M52's. Bad part i either you buy the whole kit from Eurosport, or find an M50 and the cams and then ship your ECU across the pond to Karl at AA for tuning, he has a program for this. For anyone in NA I'd suggest AA, but in your case a simpler more concise package would be benefitial.

Bill... I always average 14 or so liter/100kms.. WTF?!?!?

Bill... I always average 14 or so liter/100kms.. WTF?!?!? Simple - pedal to the metal.

i eat maximas for lunch!!, were u at luckee2beehere? :devillook

i used to have a 94 maxima, those are some good cars

lurking around...:devillook:

- my beater 98 Max


:lol: thats my main ride man!


btw Hugo...you get into alot of damn races up there....
I prolly get into less than a handful of street races every year...

Dazed,

Dyno's on the www.sharked.com website show 209 rwhp, using the industry standard 15% drivetrain loss this equates to 240.35 hp. I believe they had an exhaust and CAI when this dyno was run. The only thing I have in addition to this is a high flow cat, which gives a really cool sound but any gain is negligable. Cats generally don't give more than 3 hp. My next mod is fan delete, then a custom ground kit. I've just been holding off on the ground kit until I get a stable milage reading from the cam kit. So far I'm at 10.3 litres per 100km. Previously I averaged 9.3.

The difference in power is substantial, but my time on my banshee has me kind of immune to being affected by a quick car. Nothing gives the feeling of acceleration as well as that thing.

On topic, the cam kit is available only for single Vanos M52's. Bad part i either you buy the whole kit from Eurosport, or find an M50 and the cams and then ship your ECU across the pond to Karl at AA for tuning, he has a program for this. For anyone in NA I'd suggest AA, but in your case a simpler more concise package would be benefitial.

Thanks man. I had been looking at the CAM section at sharked.com, but had some difficulty envisioning what the whole thing actually does- it changes the valve movement, obviously and from the looks of it there is some increased airflow involved too (I see an intake filter and shield in the kit pic). So what is the trick here? Do these camshafts quicken the operation of the valves somehow?
How much does the Eurosport cam kit cost, roughly? Does it include software?

I bet your cam-shafted Z could take that 250hp Maxima. :devillook

Eurosport kit = 1 grand.

The more time the valves are open, the more air can get in the combustion chamber. With software allowing the injectors to shoot more fuel = more power.

:lol: thats my main ride man!

It's my main ride too now:(

The S52 cam doesn't open the valves more, just longer. This does 2 things. The increased duration allows better cylinder filling and the incrased valve overlap attains better port velocity. With the vanos you can run a much hotter cam than a normal engine that cannot retard the cam timing for idling and low rpm. This "hot cam" is why old school race cars with hopped up engines don't idle to well. Too much duration and overlap causes poor port velocity at idle.
The cam actually doesn't look very different set next to an ordinary M52 cam.

When you combine the added volumetric efficiency this larger cam allows with the increased port airflow of the M50 manifold you exceed the stock fuel maps adjustment capabilities. This is why you need software, you'll run quite lean if you don't.

And yes that Maxima wouldn't stand a chance... I just killed a 540 6 speed at lunch.

And yes that Maxima wouldn't stand a chance... I just killed a 540 6 speed at lunch.

What?? POst a story, dammit!!!

These cars can rape certain E36 M3 (depending on the circumstances...).

And yes that Maxima wouldn't stand a chance... I just killed a 540 6 speed at lunch.
I meant with Hugo driving:D



JK

:lol:

I meant with Hugo driving:D



JK

Damn, I got owned! :eek:

Hugo, wanna race? Your Z3 vs the ZHP? :devillook

Damn, I got owned! :eek:

You didn't get owned, you got called out:stickoutt

Be careful out there. You never know :devillook
http://www.turbo-kits.com/maxima_turbo_kits.html

Thanks for the info Hugo & StouffvilleZ3. $1000 sounds like a great deal, compared to the CAI + software prices @ about 700.

Are there any (minor) drawbacks other than increased fuel consumption to the cam kit? Any durability concerns?

The 1000$ price tag includes the adapter and SW to put the M50 intake manifold on the M52 engine, but does NOT include cams and/or intake.

yes there are definately some 500 HP maximas out there......and for like 5 grand too