This thread was closed before i could register and reply. I know my maxima guys will want to murder my for this. I think that a slightly modded 00-01 max would be hard pressed to keep up with a stock 5 speed 330. My friend has a 01 330 sedan auto and that fucker is fast. With all my mods i would probably only pull on him slightly. In the end, BMW's are friggan awesome, my next car is going to be a new M3 in 04 or 05. Anyone in northern jersey with a 330 stick i would love to race and see how i do. See you on the streets. :atom

330 autos arent all that fast compared to a 5 speed at all. I wish u the best of luck with ur future E46 M3... I hope to have one also.. :alright

Jeez... look at this: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=88001

"Hmmmmmmmm, 328 guys are talking smack about the Maxima and new Alti. Why can't they just admit that their cars are slower instead of posting BS kill stories?"

Err... ok... :astromile

Im not even going to waste my time and bother with that. Stock for stock is a different story.. but the smucks dont fully understand.

Ha Ha... everybody insists they are the big dog in their yard... they just don't mention their yard is a 1foot by 1foot square. :laugh

I just read the entire thing... man. Guess some of those people really took it to heart that Willy laid the smack down on one of their brethern...

I wonder if any of them wanna race me on the track?:evil2

Originally posted by Kevlar
I just read the entire thing... man. Guess some of those people really took it to heart that Willy laid the smack down on one of their brethern...

I wonder if any of them wanna race me on the track?:evil2

Yeah I just finally read it coz Im bored at work... yup, they really took it hard. :rolleyes: Whatever... 190hp/206lbs of tq stock for the 328.. Yup, it sucks. But 225hp and 230lbs of tq with extremely aggressive gearing is a lot of fun. :) I just felt the urge to order pulleys. :D

You can thank rasta for posting it on maxima's site... I think he was over here looking for stuff to argue about...

Originally posted by Stylin
But 225hp and 230lbs of tq with extremely aggressive gearing is a lot of fun. :) I just felt the urge to order pulleys. :D

Damn... I think that puts you over my numbers... I don't know what the correction number for dynojets are off the top of my head (The one time I need 'em I forgot).

I put down 215HP/215Torque on a Mustang Dyno which is supposed to work out to 276-283 HP/Torque. Which is close to your numbers... damn Willy, You're going to make me go out and try and find more power out of my car... Where'd I put that screwdriver?!?

Theres always a turbo waiting for you


:wave: <=== Turbo system waving to you

no no Kev.. those are crank HP.. :D Im not putting out more than u in a 2.8L without a blower. Which BTW.. wheres Rich..:D

Funny thing is like they haven't READ anything that was said about Willey's car.
Only one guy mentioned something about him running w/ a mod'd M3.

Originally posted by Stockman
You can thank rasta for posting it on maxima's site... I think he was over here looking for stuff to argue about...
and i DOUBT he even owns a Bimmer! there were a few logical posts (however few and far between), and the rest were complete flames....Rasta is a fool and needs to get the facts straight in HIS mind. the 328i was NOT STOCK....he goes running with his tail tucked between his legs to the Max forum for some juicey gossip. he should do us a favor and stay there...sorry for the temper guys, but im in bed with the flu :complain
Siyé

I dunno, i have read that an auto 330 will hit 145+. I know that the 330 stick will get 155, maybe more. My car is pretty modded with more on the way, i would like to see how i can do against a stick. Your car is pretty juiced, want to humor me and race Stylin? :)

Originally posted by maxse01
I dunno, i have read that an auto 330 will hit 145+. I know that the 330 stick will get 155, maybe more. My car is pretty modded with more on the way, i would like to see how i can do against a stick. Your car is pretty juiced, want to humor me and race Stylin? :)

again, if you're talking stock, they are limited to 145 (IIRC).. my Z3 is limited at 128... i need to check and make sure though...:D

now a call to Jim C/AA/Dinan will change ALL OF THAT (any other chip-tuners i left out too... i can't remember them all).

Originally posted by maxse01
I dunno, i have read that an auto 330 will hit 145+. I know that the 330 stick will get 155, maybe more. My car is pretty modded with more on the way, i would like to see how i can do against a stick. Your car is pretty juiced, want to humor me and race Stylin? :)

Sure I'll play.. :) I used to top out around 155mph.. (Chipped of course) But with the new gearing I'll top out around 135mph redline. So its fair.. but I still love off the line races..:D Highway races are fun too.. but not as much as off the line. Ive only lost once on the highway to a White Eclipse with a silver racing stripe.

BTW I have a lot of respect for Maximas.. I think they're very nice cars with balls. But they need help in the handling dept. :(

Ok cool. We should meet up sometime next weekend and play around. I gotta have my new body kit and grills put on. Off the line you will murder me for sure. RWD is WAY better than front, not to mention the fact that i don't even have limited slip so i peel like a mad man. What kind of flywheel hp you getting? I have a little more than 250@ the flywheel. Why don't we race from 130mph? :D As for the handeling, i got the eibach pro kit with stock shocks (for now) FSTB and my 18's with 245/40 Potenza PP. It handles pretty good. It's no BMW with 50/50 weigh dist. I think i should be able to keep up a little ;) I see you have an aim name, so i will im you sometime soon.

since the other thread was closed and I hate trolls (they are only here to get a rise out of us) and I know this does not help keep them away, but I spent sometime on this response and I would hate to let it go to waste, so here it goes:


Directed @ RastaMan530:

Get real!!!

You honestly think that the new Altima can even compare to a 328 w/ mods? You should stop smoking the chronic!!!

Now I must admit, there are some guys that do talk more than they should, but there is plenty of that everywhere. Just remember, just when you think you are the fastest, there is always a bigger dog out there ready to take your bone.

just because it was nearly double the price, that means i should be 2X as fast

Exclusivity is not cheap, remember that and neither is German quality cars. I can easily go an buy a car that would dust a Ferrari, Lambo, 911TT/GT2/GT1/GT3, etc., but when it comes down to it, I rather lose in a Ferrari, Lambo, 911TT/GT2/GT1/GT3, etc.....


PS. If deleted, I hope at least the moderator enjoyed it:D :buttrock

...in a strainght-line, from a stop, the altima V6 is good competition for a 328. they're in the sixes, and i believe the 328 is too.

sorry to spoil the fun...but...why are you bothering?
Aside from DasMafia's really good and technical analysis on one of these threads, we've had little more than mine is bigger than yours here.

Willy, your car is awesome...leave it at that. To get what you get from your car with really a very reliable set of mods is terrific.

I'm dying to drive the Altima with 5spd...every car has its merits...and a kill is a kill:D

Willy and maxse01-

Let us know what happens. Or better yet, let me know when you guys are doing this. I'd drive up for the hell of it. But definitely sit on the sidelines for that one.

I really need some mods...:(

Hey, I'm just here to "represent." Don't let the trolls get you guys down. The majority of Maxima drivers give the 3-series its due respect and, realizing that stock-for-stock is a stupid comparison since none of us are stock, most of us know that you guys can make for a fun day at the track.

Originally posted by Stylin
no no Kev.. those are crank HP.. :D Im not putting out more than u in a 2.8L without a blower. Which BTW.. wheres Rich..:D

I dunno... AA has a 2.8L motor putting down 219HP and 195Torque on the Mustang Dyno... but that's in one of the Speedvision Racecars. :evil2

Bottom line, BMW's are awesome and have my respect and admiration. I could only afford a Maxima and i like them. It was an extremley reliable car with good potential for modding. The new altima is a quick car, and would defenitly run with a 328. But we are talking about willy's car and a probably stock 3.5 altima. His car would win. Bottom line. :astromile

Originally posted by maxse01
Bottom line, BMW's are awesome and have my respect and admiration. I could only afford a Maxima and i like them. It was an extremley reliable car with good potential for modding. The new altima is a quick car, and would defenitly run with a 328. But we are talking about willy's car and a probably stock 3.5 altima. His car would win. Bottom line. :astromile

I think your friends at the maxima forum may get pissed at you for saying such things... :devillook

Originally posted by Stockman
I think your friends at the maxima forum may get pissed at you for saying such things... :devillook

Yeah, that big traitor. :D

Nah. They know it too deep down inside.

Originally posted by maxse01
Nah. They know it too deep down inside.

No we don't. That's just you my man. Most of us CHOSE our Maximas...we weren't too broke to afford a 3-series.

Originally posted by MichaelAE


No we don't. That's just you my man. Most of us CHOSE our Maximas...we weren't too broke to afford a 3-series.

Then why not CHOOSE a maxima forum? :dunno

Originally posted by Stockman
Then why not CHOOSE a maxima forum? :dunno

Oh, come on...I'm being nice. I've been browsing your General forum...reading the threads. I'm interested. One of my buddies bought a nice 330-Ci-c. Beautiful car. Its all we can talk about when we get together. We are both waiting for a weekend away from the women so that we can get down to the track together. So, I'm reading a little about his car on your forums. I can post once and a while, can't I?

Also, I'm a big fan of the 5-series and am thinking forward to my next car...'03 or '04. Thinking about the possiblity of a RWD Infiniti G35 or the 540...so I'm hanging out on the Bimmer forum.

Or aren't I allowed to be a car enthusiast with interest in more than one car?

No we don't. That's just you my man. Most of us CHOSE our Maximas...we weren't too broke to afford a 3-series.

then personally I would keep quotes like that to myself..




Theres nothing out of line with his quote..
Bottom line, BMW's are awesome and have my respect and admiration. I could only afford a Maxima and i like them. It was an extremley reliable car with good potential for modding. The new altima is a quick car, and would defenitly run with a 328. But we are talking about willy's car and a probably stock 3.5 altima. His car would win. Bottom line.

Originally posted by Stockman
Theres nothing out of line with his quote..

I was replying to this one.

Originally posted by maxse01
Nah. They know it too deep down inside.

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/cheers.gif I'm not trying to start any fights over here or anything.

MichaelAE is straight up....Read the now closed Altima thread...He was one of the few cool heads in the bunch.

He's just giving one of his fellow Nissan people some hell...:complain

And in reference to this quote..


No we don't. That's just you my man. Most of us CHOSE our Maximas...we weren't too broke to afford a 3-series.


He's right...There is some overlap among the 3-series and Maximas pricing. One could go either way depending on preference. Now if he said he chose his Maxima over an ///M5 I say we ban his ass right now..:D..
I plan to take a look at a new Maxima once it comes time for another car. Can't help but look at a car w/ a 6-speed, lots of power, and 4-doors. I'll still prolly end up paying for some guys bratwurst, but still...You always gotta shop around... Specially if Bangle is around for another couple of years...:help

Originally posted by JasonJ75
snip

He's right...There is some overlap among the 3-series and Maximas pricing. One could go either way depending on preference. Now if he said he chose his Maxima over an ///M5 I say we ban his ass right now..:D..
I plan to take a look at a new Maxima once it comes time for another car. Can't help but look at a car w/ a 6-speed, lots of power, and 4-doors. I'll still prolly end up paying for some guys bratwurst, but still...You always gotta shop around... Specially if Bangle is around for another couple of years...:help

Thanks Jason...you'd never catch me choosing the Max over an M5. But $75K is a bit of a jump from a 3-series or a Maxima. Like you'll test drive the Max when you go shopping next time around, I'm sure I'll do the same with some BMW's. I'm hoping for a RWD Nissan/Infiniti with a 6-speed and four doors...but that will have to go up against 5-series.

Why didn't someone alert me to this ridiculous discourse?

With all the respect due for the good things the Maxima does, and its total value in the automotive market, man, I eat Maximas. I have never had one even provide basic contention, let alone be considered a threat. And, since Willy's car, augmented by its considerably agressive gearing, is undiscernable from mine in any performance perspective, my final conclusion on this is that somewhere, some fool Maxima driver picked the wrong 328 to pick on. He might as well have gone with a slightly worked M3/4, for all the good it would have done him.

QED.

End of story.

This should not be a hard fact to accept, Willy has spent a lot of money on his car, and it screams as a result. This does not detract from the Maxima being an excellent car for what it is, nor does it make for any less idiotic a comparison.

[edit: oh, I see it was a new Altima. Yawn. Even sorrier a comparison :eyes1 :eyes1 :eyes1 ]

Just for the record... I have nothing against maximas... I got my sister to buy one

but.. while I like many things about it.. the steering/brakes I dont care for


(she got a 96 GLE? GXE? the one with more options or something)

Originally posted by Stockman


Then why not CHOOSE a maxima forum? :dunno

Dude... that just seems to fuc|< ed up to me :mad:. How are you just going to blatently attack him like that. This guy is one of the most level headed guys so far.

You know what... I think he should stay . Some of the other "Maximas are God!" users can go... but this guy is level headed. I would just assume if we expect them to be nice to us, that we should return the favor.

It's comments like the above :nono that make the cool level headed car enthusiasts run for the hills and just enrage those who just want to cause trouble.

Stop it. :mad:

Originally posted by Kevlar


I would just assume if we expect them to be nice to us, that we should return the favor.

Agreed. I apologize for the vehemence of my post.

Originally posted by Kevlar


Dude... that just seems to fuc|< ed up to me :mad:. How are you just going to blatently attack him like that. This guy is one of the most level headed guys so far.

You know what... I think he should stay . Some of the other "Maximas are God!" users can go... but this guy is level headed. I would just assume if we expect them to be nice to us, that we should return the favor.

It's comments like the above :nono that make the cool level headed car enthusiasts run for the hills and just enrage those who just want to cause trouble.

Stop it. :mad:

From what I had read from him as of that post it appeared he migrated form a maxima forum with no real interest in bmws except to come here and say maximas/altimas are better.

My post was meant to ask then why are you here if you have no ambition to get or like bmws.

I have absolutly no problem with others being here if they are not here to start trouble.. :blackeye:

everyone ease up...please:D
Maxima guys are welcome here...you never know who your friends will be tomorrow:wave:

Originally posted by umnitza
everyone ease up...please:D
Maxima guys are welcome here...you never know who your friends will be tomorrow:wave:

and you never know who you will wake up next to tomorrow either... err.. wrong thread.. sorry

Thanks guys... I knew you would understand. :D

and you never know who you will wake up next to tomorrow either

Don't you just hate it when you wake up and the beer goggles have worn off? You have to try and make a quiet run for it... and hope you don't have to club them back to sleep... :embarrasm

you know why they call it coyote ugly... you would bite off your own arm to get away if its stuck...


:wiggle: <--- "And she was THIS BIG"

Originally posted by CMT
With all the respect due for the good things the Maxima does, and its total value in the automotive market, man, I eat Maximas. I have never had one even provide basic contention, let alone be considered a threat.

snip

This should not be a hard fact to accept, Willy has spent a lot of money on his car, and it screams as a result. This does not detract from the Maxima being an excellent car for what it is, nor does it make for any less idiotic a comparison.

I'm with ya' man...but you've probably never met a supercharged 5th gen 5-speed properly modified. Which is fair enough since there aren't many of them. There aren't many 328's out there modified like yours either, I would guess.

Originally posted by Stockman


From what I had read from him as of that post it appeared he migrated form a maxima forum with no real interest in bmws except to come here and say maximas/altimas are better.

My post was meant to ask then why are you here if you have no ambition to get or like bmws.

I have absolutly no problem with others being here if they are not here to start trouble.. :blackeye:
I didn't come here to play "who's car is better" or "who's car is faster" or to start trouble. Like I said earlier. Just reading about the bimmers and registered to post in the previous thread, primarily because I was miffed by the Maxima driver who posted BS on Willy's kill of the Altima. I thought it was a believable kill...was just doing damage control for my Maxima brother. I'll never say Altimas are better, I will keep my opinion on Maximas to myself as I fear I am largely outnumbered.

I already like and respect BMW's, so I'm just here to learn more about them.

Originally posted by Stockman
Just for the record... I have nothing against maximas... I got my sister to buy one

but.. while I like many things about it.. the steering/brakes I dont care for


(she got a 96 GLE? GXE? the one with more options or something)

You're right on the money on this. The first mod most of us do is an FSTB and RSB to take care of the loose suspension. Stock for stock, no comparison to the 3-series...it would take serious work to keep up on a slalom (coilovers, 8" width tires, FSTB, RSTB, RSB...etc.).

Okay, I gotta go back and post some more on my board. :D I'll be around...reading and maybe one day I'll post again and we can all do this again.

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/bigwave.gif

Originally posted by MichaelAE
Okay, I gotta go back and post some more on my board. :D I'll be around...reading and maybe one day I'll post again and we can all do this again.

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/bigwave.gif

That seems like a fitting end to this thread... MichaelAE, you are welcome here anytime in my book.

And to prevent this from flaring up like a hemmoroid from hell. Bang... this thread is dead.

Didn't mean to make so much trouble. I got a maxima cause i really like them, and the 330 stick with everything i wanted was 42 grand. My maxima was only 29. Both cars are great and for my financial situation i need something more feesable. Everyone can now relax, i didn't mean to stir up any trouble. :boobies

Originally posted by maxse01
:boobies

#1 used smiley for when you dont know what else to put :D

Im still shocked all this went on over a race between some ass in an Altima and me. He picked the race.. not me. Coming up cutting me off then flashing his hazards. So I took the bait and raced.. if I lost.. I would of posted it and been amazed at what Nissan has done to the Altima's. But I killed it and told the story as is.

BTW MichaelAE in my book is welcome here anytime.. :)

Hey, Michael, i noticed you are from kirkland. I'm from nearby Mercer Island. We have bmw brunches almost every sunday. We usually post the meets at DTMpower.net under gatherings and events. You should come out some time. I was looking at Sentra's and Altima's before i picked up my car. Would be cool to have you come and roll with us. we had a modded 240sx who was goin to come to a meet but he never showed. Oh well.

Originally posted by MichaelAE


I'm with ya' man...but you've probably never met a supercharged 5th gen 5-speed properly modified. Which is fair enough since there aren't many of them. There aren't many 328's out there modified like yours either, I would guess.

The last SC'd 5th generation that went up against an E36 M3 (in this case a sedan) in a like state of tune to my own went down hard. I admit, I thought it would pull on the M3/4, especially on the highway, but it just wasn't so. The only eyebrow-raiser to the deal was that both cars were automatics, but at least they were <b>both</b> autos, which leveled the playing field.

Now, this was not my car against a SC 5th gen - so talk is cheap. I will say now that where I may once have feared the matchup, I would now welcome the challenge. But it better happen soon, before the 3.46 diff goes in, or Mr. SC Maxima duder won't have a snowball's chance in hell against my car.

With all due respect, of course ;)

[edit: here are the thread links:

http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3022&highlight=Maxima


http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3356&highlight=Maxima

Just in case anyone questions my veracity]

Originally posted by CMT
Now, this was not my car against a SC 5th gen - so talk is cheap. I will say now that where I may once have feared the matchup, I would now welcome the challenge. But it better happen soon, before the 3.46 diff goes in, or Mr. SC Maxima duder won't have a snowball's chance in hell against my car.

That's a long a$$ thread...I notice a lot of folks from my boards chimed in and gave their $.02. Unfortunately, a couple who talk out their asses did too. Near the end of the post, though, I notice that they figured out the guy didn't have an SC...something like 280 estimated hp, which amounts to about 210 at the wheels in an auto...he was doomed from the start...either way, they're both autos...screw it, I don't care who wins. :)

Originally posted by Bmw Rollin'
Hey, Michael, i noticed you are from kirkland. I'm from nearby Mercer Island. We have bmw brunches almost every sunday. We usually post the meets at DTMpower.net under gatherings and events. You should come out some time. I was looking at Sentra's and Altima's before i picked up my car. Would be cool to have you come and roll with us. we had a modded 240sx who was goin to come to a meet but he never showed. Oh well.

That might be cool. I might even find one of your brethren who would join me. A guy named Peter driving a brand spanking new 330Ci convertible 5-speed. Unless he's already on your list. I'll watch that events board or maybe just point Peter to it and let him call me up when you guys are out and about.

SC Maximas especially the 5th gen hang with LS1 Fbodys and C5 vettes in speed.

I can't explain then why the one lost to a M3. But all I know that when they are SCed. they will take any car that isn't a V8., unless its a SUPRA TT or something like that. :)

Originally posted by CMT


The last SC'd 5th generation that went up against an E36 M3 (in this case a sedan) in a like state of tune to my own went down hard. I admit, I thought it would pull on the M3/4, especially on the highway, but it just wasn't so. The only eyebrow-raiser to the deal was that both cars were automatics, but at least they were <b>both</b> autos, which leveled the playing field.

Now, this was not my car against a SC 5th gen - so talk is cheap. I will say now that where I may once have feared the matchup, I would now welcome the challenge. But it better happen soon, before the 3.46 diff goes in, or Mr. SC Maxima duder won't have a snowball's chance in hell against my car.

With all due respect, of course ;)

[edit: here are the thread links:

http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3022&highlight=Maxima


http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3356&highlight=Maxima

Just in case anyone questions my veracity]

Originally posted by Maxdude
SC Maximas especially the 5th gen hang with LS1 Fbodys and C5 vettes in speed.

I can't explain then why the one lost to a M3. But all I know that when they are SCed. they will take any car that isn't a V8., unless its a SUPRA TT or something like that. :)

Bimmer guys, let me reply before this guy get flamed too bad. Maxdude, just because someone installed a SC doesn't mean the Maxima is immediately the fastest thing on wheels. A properly modified, SC'd Maxima can be pretty damn fast...by that I mean, lightened flywheel, custom CAI for the SC, y-pipe, catback, replaced pulley, etc.

Considering there are POS Civics that run 12's with turbos, you can't possibly state a Max will "take any car that isn't a V8." Its just a bit ignorant.

I really can't believe I'm still here

Originally posted by Maxdude
SC Maximas especially the 5th gen hang with LS1 Fbodys and C5 vettes in speed.

I can't explain then why the one lost to a M3. But all I know that when they are SCed. they will take any car that isn't a V8., unless its a SUPRA TT or something like that. :)


i would love to see one beat tampatommy...he runs high 11's in his T/C M3....its neither an 8 OR a Supra. there is something called BOOST LEVEL. there is no FIXED gain for forced induction. making such a sweeping statement like that shows how little you know...
MichaelAE: you read my mind, and i couldn't agree MORE with your post :clap:
Siyé

Originally posted by Maxdude
But all I know that when they are SCed. they will take any car that isn't a V8., unless its a SUPRA TT or something like that. :)

I got a friend in a Civic Si that you'd love to meet then... car runs low 11s as a daily driver... and that a 4cylinder.

-Kevin

Originally posted by Kevlar


I got a friend in a Civic Si that you'd love to meet then... car runs low 11s as a daily driver... and that a 4cylinder.

-Kevin

Until something goes BOOM or POP coz something always does in those high powered Civics...

Originally posted by Stylin


Until something goes BOOM or POP coz something always does in those high powered Civics...

Ya, true... and when it boils down to it, it's still a FWD civic. I'll stick to my M3... even tho it runs 14s, it's still a car I can drive daily and push it to the razor's edge and come back cool, calm and controlled.