Last night in Hollywood I pulled up next to a black SL55 at a Red light. I had 2 friends in the car and he was by himself. I could tell by the look on his face that he was going to try to show me up and as I was looking at my friend sitting shotgun smiling the light turned green. I had a bad launch (a little too much wheel spin) and he took off on me, but as soon as I reconnected and hit full throttle I started catching him as I shifted to second. Pushed it all the way to third and I was blowing by him (the guy had a look on his face like he had seen a naked nun running down the street). When I passed him I could hear his V8 at high RPMs so I know he was still trying.

The most horiffic part of this story comes now: after I smoked the Merc and I went to hit the brakes to slow down, my accelerator pedal stuck to the floor!! I was stepping on the brake as hard as I could and approaching several stopped cars at a red light at 90 MPH. Being about to shit myself, luckily the right lane was open and I had no choice but to head for it and attempt to make a right turn while trying to reduce my speed (there was no time for anything else). I blew through the red light, in the right lane, prayed to God that no car was coming through the intersection (thyere wasn't) and managed to make a 90 degree right turn at a speed that was way to high. We went completely sideways and accross the yellow divider and I put the car in neutral and brought it to a halt in the middle of the street while the engine was bouncing off the rev limiter. Then I reached down and pulled the accelerator off the floor. We all got out of the car and I almost had a heart attack while one of my friends was about to puke. It was not cool at all.

That sounds pretty terrifying. How'd the pedal get stuck?

No, no, no. Tomorrow is April 1. You're a day early.

Wow, glad everyone's alright and no one else was injured. That must have been one terrifying moment!

how the hell could an e46 m3 not only make up speed on an SL55 AMG, but blow by it as well? There isn't a stock bmw out there that could walk an SL55, hell I don't even know if a modded e46 could do that to an SL55. What gives?

Apparently you haven't met M Threesome before.

Do a search on the 911 GT3 and you may have the explanation you are looking for.

I don't know what the truth is, only that this guy makes a lot of wild claims and gets a lot of flack for it.

umm yes an e46 m3 can walk with a sl55. now if it was a e55 amg there is a slight problem. ive seen in person a stock e46 m3 catch a sl55 and then go by it. both were very very very good drivers!! so it can be done

A E46 M3 is not even close to any AMG MBZ whether it is blown or n/a. Maybe a stock sl 500 vs. E46 M3 might be close...

As far as the AMG cars go:

E55 = fastest
SL55 = next fastest
CL55, CL600, SL600
S55, S600

A E46 M3 is not even close to any AMG MBZ whether it is blown or n/a. Maybe a stock sl 500 vs. E46 M3 might be close...

As far as the AMG cars go:

E55 = fastest
SL55 = next fastest
CL55, CL600, SL600
S55, S600

For the most part, Normally Aspirated AMGs do not exist anymore. Both the V8 in the 55s and the V12 in the 600s and upcoming 65 series AMGs are supercharged (V8) or turbocharged (V12).

The E46 M3 will smoke the older, pre-2003 NA AMG models of E55 and SL55.

AMG had to use forced induction because their NA engines simply could not make the same power as the other NA engines from BMW and Audi.

if it was a new SL55 then there's no way he won unless the other dude wasn't trying. 469hp, and a boat load of torque will destroy an S54 with only 333hp and what 252 lb ft of torque? Not gonna happen, sorry bro.

No, no, no. Tomorrow is April 1. You're a day early.

Actually, it's the day after tomorrow, but who's counting? ;)

if it was a new SL55 then there's no way he won unless the other dude wasn't trying. 469hp, and a boat load of torque will destroy an S54 with only 333hp and what 252 lb ft of torque? Not gonna happen, sorry bro.


An SL55 weighs about 4200 pounds. How much does an E46 M3 weigh....?

About 3400 lbs.

An SL55 weighs about 4200 pounds. How much does an E46 M3 weigh....?

About 3400 lbs.

Do the math and you will find the SL55 still has a superior power to weight ratio. (If you do, use actual weight, not guesstimates)

I would rather have the M3, don't get me wrong, but the SL55 is faster in a straight line.

Do the math and you will find the SL55 still has a superior power to weight ratio. (If you do, use actual weight, not guesstimates)

I would rather have the M3, don't get me wrong, but the SL55 is faster in a straight line.

my thoughts exactly.

e46 m3 keep up with an sl55? that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard. an sl55 has almost 500hp and can beat 911 turbos on the highway.

e46 m3 keep up with an sl55? that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard. an sl55 has almost 500hp and can beat 911 turbos on the highway.

agreed...there's no way an e46 will keep up with an sl55....it won't even keep up with an s55. didn't believe it until i raced my friend's s55 a few months ago. he pulls on me with a vengeance. these new s/c amg's are no joke.

but this was from a stop... wouldnt it take a bit more for that benz to get up to speed becaus of its weight?

but this was from a stop... wouldnt it take a bit more for that benz to get up to speed becaus of its weight?

No. An SL55(if it even was one and not some scam) would completely destroy an E46 M3, no matter where it started from, trust me. I've sat in both and driven both, it's no comparison as far as straight line acceleration.

Just to clarify: The SL55 weighs 4319 lbs, the M3 weighs 3415 stock (I have Brembo Brake kit and Forged BBS RS-GT wheels which saves weight). The SL55 has 493 bhp, the M3 has 333 STOCK ( I have Dinan S2 software, Euro headers + cats, Eisenmann cat-back exhaust, and TMS powerpullies, and UUC shortshifter). If you go to the Mercedes Benz website and do a competitive comparison between the SL55 and the M3 it says that the SL does 0-60 in 4.5, the M3 in 4.8 (stock). With my mods and Michelin Pilot Sport tires, I should be doing at least 4.5 seconds to 60 on a good launch, not to mention the guy who had the video on here of him pulling a 12.6 1/4 mile with his M3 that only had pullies.

Assuming that my car has 360+ horsepower and weighs... lets say 50 lbs less than stock + 2 males (~300 lbs), that would be 250 lbs more than curb weight. The guy in the Mercedes was a fat ass, at least 220. So we will say that I have 30 more lbs of laden weight in my car making it weigh 3445 lbs... that makes the Mercedes power to weight ratio 9.2 HP per pound and my car 9.5 HP per pound. Basically we were almost equal in the circumstances.

Believe me or not, I don't care... I smoked that SL55 and it was fun until I almost died.

How does an accelerator pedal get stuck with Throttle By Wire... there is nothing for it to get caught up on. I also highly doubt you were able to take a 90 degree turn at 90mph or whatever you claim you were going.

3 Some....Let's go do a few runs up and down Mureau road. Your M3 vs my E55. When do you get off work?

-Jay

PS. Get some better Coffee out of that machine, I know it's free & all! lol!!!

3 Some....Let's go do a few runs up and down Mureau road. Your M3 vs my E55. When do you get off work?

-Jay

PS. Get some better Coffee out of that machine, I know it's free & all! lol!!!

Get this on video...although we know what the outcome will be...most of us anyway.
;)

3 Some....Let's go do a few runs up and down Mureau road. Your M3 vs my E55. When do you get off work?

-Jay

PS. Get some better Coffee out of that machine, I know it's free & all! lol!!!

Let me know next time you are in, we have better coffee in a secret place for you! Sorry, if your E55 is an '04 it will definately beat me right now, but I will be happy to run you after I install the AA Supercharger. My car is in the service dept right now having the accelerator looked at, and after last night I am not really in the mood to be going fast for a while. BTW, Mureau road is a cop haven, I wouldn't be speeding there at all.

PS - your comment above is very inaccurate, try taking the C32 AMG against the M3.

Just to clarify: The SL55 weighs 4319 lbs, the M3 weighs 3415 stock (I have Brembo Brake kit and Forged BBS RS-GT wheels which saves weight). The SL55 has 493 bhp, the M3 has 333 STOCK ( I have Dinan S2 software, Euro headers + cats, Eisenmann cat-back exhaust, and TMS powerpullies, and UUC shortshifter). If you go to the Mercedes Benz website and do a competitive comparison between the SL55 and the M3 it says that the SL does 0-60 in 4.5, the M3 in 4.8 (stock). With my mods and Michelin Pilot Sport tires, I should be doing at least 4.5 seconds to 60 on a good launch, not to mention the guy who had the video on here of him pulling a 12.6 1/4 mile with his M3 that only had pullies.

Assuming that my car has 360+ horsepower and weighs... lets say 50 lbs less than stock + 2 males (~300 lbs), that would be 250 lbs more than curb weight. The guy in the Mercedes was a fat ass, at least 220. So we will say that I have 30 more lbs of laden weight in my car making it weigh 3445 lbs... that makes the Mercedes power to weight ratio 9.2 HP per pound and my car 9.5 HP per pound. Basically we were almost equal in the circumstances.

Believe me or not, I don't care... I smoked that SL55 and it was fun until I almost died.


hmmm...this reminds me of a time when i messed around with a fixed-up integra on the freeway. he was so much slower than me that i didn't really give my car full throttle. as he kept trying to beat me, i'd let off the accelerator until he caught me, and then i'd stick right with him throughout. i thought i was punkin' him, but i guess he must have thought he beat me. lesson learned - i'll never go half throttle again.

please understand that although you may have beat this particular SL55, don't go around stating that the extra 50 pounds you saved and the 30 horsepower you gained must have been the reason you beat him. the SL55 driver was probably going half-throttle with a foot cramp, on his bluetooth cell phone, and unwilling to race a much slower car.

for JayAlfred: I never said I took the turn at 90 mph, I said I was approaching stopped traffic and a light at 90 when I started to hit the brakes... you should read more carefully before you run your mouth. I am perfectly aware that the car is DBW, but my pedal got stuck and it was f-ed up. What would be the point in making it up?

BTW, I was just doing some research... according to C&D the SL55 AMG only has 469 HP (I thought it was 493), which would change the arguement substantially. You guys can check out the article yourselvs at the link below. It also says that the SL55 will humble a 911 (so will the M3) but not the Turbo. We have a silver/red SL55 AMG for sale at the dealership with 5000 miles, I have driven it and it is fast. However, with the right amount of power and the right driver the M3 can take it. I did it last night with 2 people in my car.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=19&article_id=1844

Do the math and you will find the SL55 still has a superior power to weight ratio. (If you do, use actual weight, not guesstimates)

I would rather have the M3, don't get me wrong, but the SL55 is faster in a straight line.

WRONG

e46 m3 keep up with an sl55? that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard. an sl55 has almost 500hp and can beat 911 turbos on the highway.

NOPE

BTW, I just talked to the tech working on my car in the service dept. My M3 has a faulty gas pedal assembly and they are deciding right now if it is safe for me to take home before the part comes in.

sl55s do beat 911 turbos on the highway. i don't care what the website says, I know what I've seen! Lastly you raced from a stop, check your torque vs. the sl55, which has like almost 600 of some ridiculous number.

sl55s do beat 911 turbos on the highway. i don't care what the website says, I know what I've seen! Lastly you raced from a stop, check your torque vs. the sl55, which has like almost 600 of some ridiculous number.

It's 516 lb/ft. You need to get your figures right, and if you saw that happen, it was a tiptronic Turbo and a moron that didn't know how to drive (well, anyone that would buy a turbo in a tip is a moron IMO). If it was a stick or X50 turbo than it would destroy the Mercedes like the heavy, overpriced piece of sh-t that it is. I have beat an SL55, C32 AMGs, WRX STis, all Porsche's except a GT2 and Turbo's (I did keep up with a Tip Turbo on the freeway from 80-140 once), and many other fast cars in my M3.

My M3 is different than 95% of the M3s that I have driven, and my mechanic seconds that. The engine was opened up very well and it is fast as hell. I drive M3s all day long and mine is the fastest one I have driven (when it was stock). Maybe some of the people out there that are losing to these cars don't 1. know how to drive, or 2. dont have a fast enough car.

http://www.mbusa.com/brand/container.jsp?/models/main.jsp&modelCode=SL55&src=MODELSELECTOR

I feel like an idiot for adding to this pointless argument. But in a straight line, I would take a SL55 all day long over an E46 M3.

OH DAMN - he has a short shift kit, I forgot that short shift kits adds at least 50 HP & TRQ and will cause the M3 will also then pull 1.60g on the skidpad :) hehe

[QUOTE=M Threesome]If it was a stick or X50 turbo than it would destroy the Mercedes like the heavy, overpriced piece of sh-t that it is. QUOTE]
whoa i really dont think any one can call the sl55 a piece of shit... its a greta car, the guy was probably going half throtle, you even said u had a bad launch and could do maybe 4.5 on a good launch.
just drop it man

for JayAlfred: I never said I took the turn at 90 mph, I said I was approaching stopped traffic and a light at 90 when I started to hit the brakes... you should read more carefully before you run your mouth. I am perfectly aware that the car is DBW, but my pedal got stuck and it was f-ed up. What would be the point in making it up?

:lol: OK before anything... maybe YOU should learn to read. My sn is JAlfred, not JayAlfred. If you would've read what I stated...
I also highly doubt you were able to take a 90 degree turn at 90mph or whatever you claim you were going.
Note: "...at 90mph or whatever you claim you were going."

So how fast WERE you going exactly that you were able to take a 90 degree turn at speed in the RIGHT lane? I would call BS on anything over 30mph... even that is way too fast to be taking a turn with the complete wrong driving line.

Oh... and your pedal got "f'ed up?" Well... that just clears everything up now doesn't it...

It's 516 lb/ft. You need to get your figures right, and if you saw that happen, it was a tiptronic Turbo and a moron that didn't know how to drive (well, anyone that would buy a turbo in a tip is a moron IMO). If it was a stick or X50 turbo than it would destroy the Mercedes like the heavy, overpriced piece of sh-t that it is. I have beat an SL55, C32 AMGs, WRX STis, all Porsche's except a GT2 and Turbo's (I did keep up with a Tip Turbo on the freeway from 80-140 once), and many other fast cars in my M3.

My M3 is different than 95% of the M3s that I have driven, and my mechanic seconds that. The engine was opened up very well and it is fast as hell. I drive M3s all day long and mine is the fastest one I have driven (when it was stock). Maybe some of the people out there that are losing to these cars don't 1. know how to drive, or 2. dont have a fast enough car.


ok sorry it's ONLY 516 ft-lbs. :rolleyes: An SL55 is not a piece of shit (i don't think you can call anything a piece of shit that can reach 200mph stock). BTW for what it's worth Motor Trend's first test of the 996 Tiptronic Turbo recorded 0-60 in 3.8 seconds. Granted I too would never buy an auto in a car like that, but the autos are still wickedly fast.

SL55 is a piece of shit, and so is the enzo. All hail the almighty 333 hp M3 which will smoke a car with 50% more power

step down from your pedestal.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say you may have won this race. But to say your car will outrun a new SL55 is borderline retarded

ok sorry it's ONLY 516 ft-lbs. :rolleyes: An SL55 is not a piece of shit (i don't think you can call anything a piece of shit that can reach 200mph stock). BTW for what it's worth Motor Trend's first test of the 996 Tiptronic Turbo recorded 0-60 in 3.8 seconds. Granted I too would never buy an auto in a car like that, but the autos are still wickedly fast.

Impossible. The 0-60 time on the 996 Turbo with a manual transmission is 3.9-4.1 seconds depending on who tested it. The X50 package does 0-60 in 3.6 seconds and is the fastest production porsche ever built. The tiptronic does 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, the same as the M3 coupe.

I love all of you guys on here, you call BS on everything. It's fine with me, I was there and so were 2 of my friends. Maybe he had the traction control on and he couldnt get a good launch. Maybe he was a bad driver, but even the worst drivers can step on a gas pedal and go in a straight line. We beat the SL55, and unless it was an SL500 with some loser that switched the badges and wheels, and I was to dumb to realize it then I beat him fair and square.

I call this car a POS because I personally don't give a damn for these cars. If you like them, then all the more power to you. Go buy one! I would much rather have a 996 Turbo X50 than a 140k car that weighs nearly 5000 lbs and can't handle for sh-t. Call it what you want, but IMO I don't care for the Merc. I like my M3 (except for the fact that it almost killed me, I should name it Christine), and the fact that I smoke a "supercar" gives me pride in my vehicle. But instead of you guys saying, wow... thats really bad ass you all have to lay into me and say that it is BS. Well, think what you will, but we spanked that Mercedes, and the guy driving it watched me hit third gear as I was blasting by him to the musical melody of my Eisenmann exhaust. WhoooHAAH!

I raced this girl in her S4, and i was driving my 91 honda station wagon. We were racing to the mall, and i won, thus the driver makes the car.

Ipso facto, i can say with confidence any m3 of any year can beat any car ever made, except for any honda station wagon.

M threesome... This is ridiculous. Why don't you back some of this up. Any pics ? Videos ? I dont believe this for a second.

I've gotten some outlandish kills myself. It's a drivers race.You can have all the power in the world and not have a damn clue what you're doing behind the wheel.

WRONG


There was absolutely nothing wrong with either of my statements. The SL55 DOES have a superior power to weight ratio when compared to an M3, and IS faster in a straight line.

At root, your mistake is as follows: Just because you were on the street in car A and had an encounter with car B, it does NOT mean that you can make the general statement Car A is faster than Car B. All it means is that on date X at time Y in place Z, you were faster in Car A than someone else in Car B, who may or may not have been racing you, and, even if they were trying, may or may not have known what they were doing.

If we believe everything you say about the car you have, you might have a car that could run with an SL55 at the drag strip, assuming equal drivers. Yet, you try to impress us of bold tales of how you blew past an SL55 in 3rd gear.

Well, maybe you did, and maybe you didn't. I don't even care anymore.

ummm maybe this a dumb question...but wouldn't shifting into neutral when going 40 or so mph ridiculously over rev the engine? a rev limiter wouldn't help...isn't it the same example as the "money shift?"

You are so wrong, a SL 600 does the quarter in 11.9, the SL 55 a little slower, around 13 flat. because the 600 has more torque. Both cars would blow away and E46 M3. Not even a chance. I saw one at the track last friday keep up with a super pumped Supra, and a 911 TT. 493HP 516lb-ft That torque starts at 1800 RPM. M3 is still sleeping at 1800 rpm. Come on dude, he was talking to his wife on his celly and didn't even see you.

You have brembo brakes you said. With wat Manual or SMG trans. and you couldnt put it in nuteral and brake with Brembos come on man learn how to drive then race. You first gota learn to crawl before you can walk. and one more thing while your at it dont exagerate your stories no need to not tring to impress anyone here.

Why the hell didn't you just push in the clutch and then try and slow the car down? I'd think that would be a hell of a lot better than just slamming on the brakes while going wot hoping not to die... I smell some bullshit.

I hear they've got some good grass down in LA

My car is in the service dept right now having the accelerator looked at, and after last night I am not really in the mood to be going fast for a while. BTW, Mureau road is a cop haven, I wouldn't be speeding there at all.


comedy gold

:D :crackbutt :confused: :D

for JayAlfred: I never said I took the turn at 90 mph, I said I was approaching stopped traffic and a light at 90 when I started to hit the brakes... you should read more carefully before you run your mouth. I am perfectly aware that the car is DBW, but my pedal got stuck and it was f-ed up. What would be the point in making it up?

BTW, I was just doing some research... according to C&D the SL55 AMG only has 469 HP (I thought it was 493), which would change the arguement substantially. You guys can check out the article yourselvs at the link below. It also says that the SL55 will humble a 911 (so will the M3) but not the Turbo. We have a silver/red SL55 AMG for sale at the dealership with 5000 miles, I have driven it and it is fast. However, with the right amount of power and the right driver the M3 can take it. I did it last night with 2 people in my car.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=19&article_id=1844

Exactly! I might have missed it but didn't see anyone mention the added weight via 3 people in his car. He could have had 3 crack addicts versus one big motha in the other car, yet I doubt it. So the weight ratio was probably atleast 360lbs closer to even. With that said...and don't forget the fact that the SL55 got the jump on him due to traction problems...
:bs:

for JayAlfred: I never said I took the turn at 90 mph, I said I was approaching stopped traffic and a light at 90 when I started to hit the brakes... you should read more carefully before you run your mouth. I am perfectly aware that the car is DBW, but my pedal got stuck and it was f-ed up. What would be the point in making it up?

BTW, I was just doing some research... according to C&D the SL55 AMG only has 469 HP (I thought it was 493), which would change the arguement substantially. You guys can check out the article yourselvs at the link below. It also says that the SL55 will humble a 911 (so will the M3) but not the Turbo. We have a silver/red SL55 AMG for sale at the dealership with 5000 miles, I have driven it and it is fast. However, with the right amount of power and the right driver the M3 can take it. I did it last night with 2 people in my car.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=19&article_id=1844

The C&D article must be wrong. The car has 493 HP and 516 ft/lbs Tq.

From the Mercedes Benz Website: (http://www.mbusa.com/)

MSRP $120,770.00*
Engine AMG-built supercharged 5.5L 24-valve V-8 engine
Net Power 493 hp @ 6,100 rpm
Net Torque 516 lb-ft @ 2,750 - 4,000 rpm

Supercars.net (http://www.supercars.net/garages/RLQ/18v2.html/) has the same HP and TQ numbers.
They also add 1/4 mile in 12.55 sec. I have seen times in other articles for less, but lets assume 12.55 sec.

You say you have seen an E46 M3 run 12.6 at the 1/4 mile. I have yet to do so. Most E46 M3's run low to mid 13's. But let's assume the 12.6 time. You say the S55 pulled ahead of you? Taking the 12.6 and the 12.55 (for S55 from above) times, both times are pretty equal. So if one car is ahead at the start, that car is the WINNER. Ther is NO WAY ON GODS GREEN EARTH you made time & distance on an S55, unless that driver was NOT TRYING.

I raise the :bs: on this one.

Here are two video of an AMG E55 against a modded Mustang Cobra. OK, the E55 is a tenth or two faster but you will get the point.

RACE ONE (http://dl.downloadhosting.com/download/alumar/03cobravsE55.wmv/)
THE REMATCH (http://dl.downloadhosting.com/download/alumar/cobravse55rematch.wmv)

By the way, the next time the pedal sticks, put it in nuetral and kill the engine. There should still be enough vacum in the master cyleder with the enigine off and those huge BREMBO's to slow it down.

Bill P

PS I also had the fastest stock E36 M3 I have ever driven. You know why? Because it's mine. :evil2

I don't know about this one kids...I'm going to have to go with the Merc.

Threesome, you work for a dealership and you're making the argument that your car is faster in a stright line? 'Fraid you might have lost some future costumers on this board hoss.

C'mon guys can't we allow M Threesome to exist in his fantasy world?

I'm suprised he posts here still, Stuttgart hit him pretty hard last time.

Just put a smiley face :) and say something like "nice kill, M power owns AMG, your M3 is so sweet!"

He reminds me of those overprivileged kids who I encounter sometimes who tell me "life sucks" then later I see their parents pick them up in a Maybach and drive into a mansion. Just have to nod and say "yeah kid, life must really suck for you"

i dont own a SL55 AMG but I DO own a C32 AMG and i think I can shed some light on what happened....

when you floor it, the car automatically downshifts 2 wut it believes is the "appropriate gear". but the appropriate gear isnt always the fastest gear.

so my C32 can go to 40mph in 1st gear and 60mph in 2nd gear. If I was to floor it in "D" while going, lets say 57mph... instead of shifting to 2nd gear, it would only shift to 3rd gear(appropriate gear).

my 3rd gear goes to 80mph, but if i floor it in D while going 75mph, it would only downshift to 4th gear instead of 3rd

in other words... the car (in most situations) downshifts to 1 gear above the fastest gear


also... unless you manually shift yourself, even if you are going 20mph... the car will NOT shift to 1st gear! unless you start from 0mph



HOWEVER, the car also downshifts according to behavior. If I was heavy enough on my accelerator, without even flooring it, my car would downshift.
but If I was only mildly aggressive on my accelerator, my car will not downshift.

BUT! if I was only mildly aggressive on my accelerator, and suddenly decided to floor it, my car STILL will not downshift.

when this happens, my car cant outrun anything. its like flooring it from 4th gear when im only going 30mph....


i believe this is what happened to the SL55.


M Threesome, even after your power to weight ratio calculations, the evidence is still in favor of the SL55.

So you took this turn at full throttle, while braking hard. Anyone else seeing the massive oversteer potential here? The full throttle alone is a big problem, but the fact that your front brakes are doing about 70% of the braking only compounds the oversteer problem.

I'll believe this story when America builds a car I want to buy.

with all that calculation etc etc...I highly doubt you are gonna get 500+ lb-ft of torque like the SL55. On top of that, you just said you've got 3 people in the car. OR simply the car you saw was a SL500.

You should go download that Gumball3000 video where a SL55 was running next to a modded B5 S4 that's putting down more power than a stock M3. The SL55 just took off on the S4.

OMG! Your M3 rulz!!

This thread is getting ridiculous…. Who cares if he’s lying or not, I mean if his life is soo pathetic that he needs to lie on the Internet then is he even worth arguing with? With that said though perhaps he did beat the Merc. Does that mean he’ll beat all SL55’s, no not all but that car on that day with that driver he claims to beat and I believe him. Unless the SL55 driver comes on the board to say otherwise I have no reason not to, does that mean I’ll go around thinking I could beat an Sl55 ? NO but crazier sheit has happen, hell I’ve seen Z06’s run 14 seconds ¼ miles at englishtown.

Perfect case and point I recently ran 50th Anniversary vette on a highway rule till 130ish, I pulled on him authoritatively. Yet a few months back I ran an LT1 Camaro (stock the guy claims and probably was) and he pulled away on me. Reason why? Simple I just switch to brandy new snows and the tires kept breaking traction. So does that mean all stock LT1’s are faster then me and therefore faster then the LS1 vette? NO it means on that day because of my tires and my error (yeah I banged the limiter) I was owned.

The only part of his story I don’t get is why he didn’t just pop it in neutral and hit the brakes. Then again what was that story a few months ago the police had to get in front of and bring a cavalier or something similar to stop when the woman driving couldn’t get it to stop accelerating. Whatever the case maybe, I believe his story since it’s no loss to me if he’s lying and I have no evidence to support the opposite.

with all that calculation etc etc...I highly doubt you are gonna get 500+ lb-ft of torque like the SL55. On top of that, you just said you've got 3 people in the car. OR simply the car you saw was a SL500.

You should go download that Gumball3000 video where a SL55 was running next to a modded B5 S4 that's putting down more power than a stock M3. The SL55 just took off on the S4.


you tell them Frank.... :)

ummm maybe this a dumb question...but wouldn't shifting into neutral when going 40 or so mph ridiculously over rev the engine? a rev limiter wouldn't help...isn't it the same example as the "money shift?"

No, the money shift occurs because when you miss shift into a lower gear, you are mechanically forcing the engine to rev higher, shifting to neutral removes any mechanical connection the engine has from the drive drain, thus when the rev limiter is hit, fuel is cut and the engine slows down.

With a miss shift the rev limiter will still kick in and stop fuel flow, but because your still connecting the engine to the transmission, which is still spinning because your tires are spinning as you travel down the road, you mechanically force the engine to overrev.

Hope that helps.

OMG! Your M3 rulz!!


Thats more like it!

M Threesome should change his name to AMGKILLA

I agree with ferris. I used to work for a Benz dealer(boo! I hated it.) It is possible for any car to beat any car depending on conditions. Threesome's car sounds badass, so I don't see why everyone has a prob. with it. Has no one on here ever beat a car they shouldn't have? I know I have. I used to work for a merc dealer and if I recall correctly the early sl55 were 0-60 in 5.1. It could have been one of those, at any rate, innocent until proven guilty by someone who was there.(and personally, I agree with threesome, I do n ot like any mercedes. I am bmw through and through, which is why I now work for bmw)

The C&D article must be wrong. The car has 493 HP and 516 ft/lbs Tq.

From the Mercedes Benz Website: (http://www.mbusa.com/)

MSRP $120,770.00*
Engine AMG-built supercharged 5.5L 24-valve V-8 engine
Net Power 493 hp @ 6,100 rpm
Net Torque 516 lb-ft @ 2,750 - 4,000 rpm

Supercars.net (http://www.supercars.net/garages/RLQ/18v2.html/) has the same HP and TQ numbers.
They also add 1/4 mile in 12.55 sec. I have seen times in other articles for less, but lets assume 12.55 sec.

You say you have seen an E46 M3 run 12.6 at the 1/4 mile. I have yet to do so. Most E46 M3's run low to mid 13's. But let's assume the 12.6 time. You say the S55 pulled ahead of you? Taking the 12.6 and the 12.55 (for S55 from above) times, both times are pretty equal. So if one car is ahead at the start, that car is the WINNER. Ther is NO WAY ON GODS GREEN EARTH you made time & distance on an S55, unless that driver was NOT TRYING.

I raise the :bs: on this one.

Here are two video of an AMG E55 against a modded Mustang Cobra. OK, the E55 is a tenth or two faster but you will get the point.

RACE ONE (http://dl.downloadhosting.com/download/alumar/03cobravsE55.wmv/)
THE REMATCH (http://dl.downloadhosting.com/download/alumar/cobravse55rematch.wmv)

By the way, the next time the pedal sticks, put it in nuetral and kill the engine. There should still be enough vacum in the master cyleder with the enigine off and those huge BREMBO's to slow it down.

Bill P



PS I also had the fastest stock E36 M3 I have ever driven. You know why? Because it's mine. :evil2

GOD DAMN!!!!!! All of you are so retarded! There was a video on this forum about a week or two ago of a guy running a 12.64 or so with a completely stock E46 M3 wtih only pullies, search for E46 M3 runs 12.xx . It was a silver M3 and I will try to find the video and repost.

All of you can think what you want. I can post pictures of my car and my mod list, in fact, I am going to DYNO it next week so then we can see how much power it is putting to the ground. For whoever asked me if I have a video or pics??? Oh yeah, let me just pull out my camcorder that I always keep in my car when I pull up next to a car for a radom race!? Like a still shot would prove anytyhing?

For whoever said that the SL55 does a 13 second flat in the quarter, and you think it will keep up with a 911 TT?? Go look up 1/4 mile stats my friend. Turbos have been running mid to low 12s since the 993 Turbo/Turbo S first came out. 996 Turbo, and X50 Turbo are insane. 415/450 HP on a car weighing roughly 3500 lbs will annihilate any Mercedes that currently exists (closest competition would be the 04 E55 to the 415 bhp Turbo). We had a 996 Turbo X50 at the dealership a week ago Silver/black and I drove it. We also have a SL55 AMG for sale. Check out our webpage if you dont believe me. I have driven both, the AMG doesnt even compare.

All of you who are talking shit on here are the same people who call BS everytime somebody has a cool story to tell because obviously your lives are too boring to believe that anything like that could happen. Just remember ASSUME makes an ASS out of U and ME.

Much love to you all for the entertainment.

HAHAHa... found the link, go eat your hearts out.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=183313

OMG! Your M3 rulz!!

Must be one of those factory freaks.

GOD DAMN!!!!!! All of you are so retarded! There was a video on this forum about a week or two ago of a guy running a 12.64 or so with a completely stock E46 M3 wtih only pullies, search for E46 M3 runs 12.xx . It was a silver M3 and I will try to find the video and repost.

All of you can think what you want. I can post pictures of my car and my mod list, in fact, I am going to DYNO it next week so then we can see how much power it is putting to the ground. For whoever asked me if I have a video or pics??? Oh yeah, let me just pull out my camcorder that I always keep in my car when I pull up next to a car for a radom race!? Like a still shot would prove anytyhing?

For whoever said that the SL55 does a 13 second flat in the quarter, and you think it will keep up with a 911 TT?? Go look up 1/4 mile stats my friend. Turbos have been running mid to low 12s since the 993 Turbo/Turbo S first came out. 996 Turbo, and X50 Turbo are insane. 415/450 HP on a car weighing roughly 3500 lbs will annihilate any Mercedes that currently exists (closest competition would be the 04 E55 to the 415 bhp Turbo). We had a 996 Turbo X50 at the dealership a week ago Silver/black and I drove it. We also have a SL55 AMG for sale. Check out our webpage if you dont believe me. I have driven both, the AMG doesnt even compare.

All of you who are talking shit on here are the same people who call BS everytime somebody has a cool story to tell because obviously your lives are too boring to believe that anything like that could happen. Just remember ASSUME makes an ASS out of U and ME.

Much love to you all for the entertainment.

HAHAHa... found the link, go eat your hearts out.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=183313

First of all, an M3 with pullies is not completely stock. As pointed out in the thread you linked to, the guy ran a 1.75 Sec. 60 foot to get a 12.6. That is a ridiculous launch, and may be the reason why he is on his second transmission. I doubt very much you could approach either time in your car, as they represent the apparent zenith of E46 M3 60 foot and quarter mile times.

Second, apparently you have not heard of the SL65, or the new McLaren SLR. Both run sub 4 second 0-60 times. Sounds like a rather poor assumption, similar to your statement above that an SL55 runs a 13.0 second quarter, based simply on the fact that someone else seems to think so.

You are the person that keeps coming back with stories about how great your car is, when you know full well that there are many people on this site who have no respect for you because of the ridiculous claims you have made in the past. Why you keep coming back is beyond me, but for you to be surprised at the result is simply ignorant.

OMGH!2U!!!!!1111!!!!!!!111!!1

E46 m3 pWnzzz stoopid MeRsaYdeeZ. AmG sux.

Scroo da hatAz. You'RE car iz BaDaazzz!

Ron gets points for that post:D

WOO HOO!

Could you tell what year the SL55 AMG was?

Could you tell what year the SL55 AMG was?

there's no differentiation.

that won't matter, there were less than 100 SL55 in the states(I assume since it was quickly changed within 3-4 months) that came with the 467hp version for the first year. The chances you are looking at one of the early ones are zero to none. Especially when AMG had offered to update the ECU for the early model I believe.

either way, those early SL55 still ran mid-high 12's.

First of all, an M3 with pullies is not completely stock. As pointed out in the thread you linked to, the guy ran a 1.75 Sec. 60 foot to get a 12.6. That is a ridiculous launch, and may be the reason why he is on his second transmission. I doubt very much you could approach either time in your car, as they represent the apparent zenith of E46 M3 60 foot and quarter mile times.

Second, apparently you have not heard of the SL65, or the new McLaren SLR. Both run sub 4 second 0-60 times. Sounds like a rather poor assumption, similar to your statement above that an SL55 runs a 13.0 second quarter, based simply on the fact that someone else seems to think so.

You are the person that keeps coming back with stories about how great your car is, when you know full well that there are many people on this site who have no respect for you because of the ridiculous claims you have made in the past. Why you keep coming back is beyond me, but for you to be surprised at the result is simply ignorant.

Now allow me to retort:

First of all the car was completely stock EXCEPT for pullies

Second of all, weather or not the launch was the ZENITH as you so put it is irrelevant. He ran the 1/4 mile, it can be done, and I am confident that I could pull off the same in my car due to the fact that I have more mods.

Lastly, I have heard of the 65 series, it will be the most powerful engine ever built in a production car WHEN IT COMES OUT. The Mercedes SLR McLeran IS NOT AVAILABLE YET. So, yes the X50 996 Turbo will still spank any Mercedes IN PRODUCTION.

You would not make a good lawyer.

Why do I come back to say what I feel on this forum? It is entertaining to me. Do I give a damn what you haters here think about me? No. Will my M3 spank an SL55 AMG when launched properly against an equally competant driver as me? I think it will.

Yes, it does all boil down to the driver, but I think even the worst drivers can step on a gas pedal and steer a car straight (thats what Mercedes are for, idiots who cannot drive a stick who need twin turbo engines on overweight cars that lose to M3s so we can watch their expressions change).

Why didn't I put my car in neutral right away? Everything happend so fast, by the time I realized that my accelerator was actually stuck (abuot 2 secs) I was less than 100 feet from stopped cars and a red light. If this happened to any of you, you would understand. After I took the right turn, I did put the car in neutral, and it bounced off the rev limiter a whole bunch of times as we coasted... then I turned off the car and pulled the pedal off the floor.

And for all of you who have a problem with that, you can kiss my white ass!

:lol:

You would not make a good lawyer.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

After graduating Magna Cum Laude from a top tier law school, a semester early, I have been a well-respected and practicing attorney for over three years.

BTW, weather is what meteorologists study, 'whether' is the word you were looking for.

I want the truth!!! But we can't handle the truth!! :lol:

Will my M3 spank an SL55 AMG when launched properly against an equally competant driver as me? I think it will.

Yes, it does all boil down to the driver, but I think even the worst drivers can step on a gas pedal and steer a car straight (thats what Mercedes are for, idiots who cannot drive a stick who need twin turbo engines on overweight cars that lose to M3s so we can watch their expressions change).

:lol:

hookay buddy :alright

Will my M3 spank an SL55 AMG when launched properly against an equally competant driver as me? I think it will.


It's not personal man, it's just that specs, performance stats, physics, and other comparisons say otherwise.

Will my M3 spank an SL55 AMG when launched properly against an equally competant driver as me? I think it will.


:lol:

Now allow me to retort:

And for all of you who have a problem with that, you can kiss my white ass!


Your ass stink. All I can see now is a thick skull waiting to be humiliated on the next race. You just got posted in RoadFly.


:help

NOOOOOO! Take the link down. The moderators hate to see that and they'll shut it down....let us have our own fun here!:D
Done.

Done.

Thanks boss... :buttrock

And for all of you who have a problem with that, you can kiss my white ass!

Ew bro! That thing is all covered with hair, zits & dingleberries. Look, you aren't making any friends here. I say do not post another kill unless you have a vid file to prove it. You have cried wolf one too many times bro! Nobody believes you anymore. I mean you might as well say you beat my 705hp Supra.
:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

After graduating Magna Cum Laude from a top tier law school, a semester early, I have been a well-respected and practicing attorney for over three years.

BTW, weather is what meteorologists study, 'whether' is the word you were looking for.

Sure, I bet you make 7 figures too. I forgot how many of the top lawyer live in Wisconsin. WAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. I am going to call up my #1 stock broker living in North Dakota who will forward the message to the tier one plastic surgeon I am friends with in Alaska. WAHAHHAAHAHAHA

Hey Threesome, did you really see an E60 M5 V10? Is it here in the US as a test car? :confused:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185136

I think I'm going to drive to your dealership and hand a copy of this thread to the sales manager. Then I'm going to kick your ass and put you in your super-fastest-M3-off-the-production-line and roll you off a cliff for the good of BMW owners everywhere.

I've been reading this site a long time and though I recently registered I must say that reading all this stuff from you I have to hope you're just one big troll who's really attention starved, because if not I really have to wonder how you managed to get on the internet let alone register and post here on a regular basis.

I think I'm going to drive to your dealership and hand a copy of this thread to the sales manager. Then I'm going to kick your ass and put you in your super-fastest-M3-off-the-production-line and roll you off a cliff for the good of BMW owners everywhere.

I've been reading this site a long time and though I recently registered I must say that reading all this stuff from you I have to hope you're just one big troll who's really attention starved, because if not I really have to wonder how you managed to get on the internet let alone register and post here on a regular basis.


LOL. This is so funny if you do that. :redspot

Sure, I bet you make 7 figures too. I forgot how many of the top lawyer live in Wisconsin. WAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. I am going to call up my #1 stock broker living in North Dakota who will forward the message to the tier one plastic surgeon I am friends with in Alaska. WAHAHHAAHAHAHA

You have no idea what you are talking about. I never claimed to be a top lawyer, just a good lawyer who did well in law school. And since you have demonstrated ZERO knowledge of the legal profession, you may want to rethink your bold statements about the quality of legal representation in Wisconsin.

I didn't come her to brag about myself. You will note I didn't start a post about how great a lawyer I am and how I smoked a bunch of other lawyers in a big case.

Fortunately for me, my career and my self worth are not dependent upon what people believe about me on the internet.

Grow up.

This is 3some's M3 on the stop light. Watch out.

You have no idea what you are talking about. I never claimed to be a top lawyer, just a good lawyer who did well in law school. And since you have demonstrated ZERO knowledge of the legal profession, you may want to rethink your bold statements about the quality of legal representation in Wisconsin.

I didn't come her to brag about myself. You will note I didn't start a post about how great a lawyer I am and how I smoked a bunch of other lawyers in a big case.

Fortunately for me, my career and my self worth are not dependent upon what people believe about me on the internet.

Grow up.

:handclap

Your car has maybe 355 HP to the crank with your mods. You will never beat a SL55 unless you supercharge your M. Sorry.

I've raced over 50 cars in my heavily modded M3 and have done many runs at the track. I am making more power than you and I weigh less, and I would have no chance against a SL55. I know the capabilites of our cars. They won't run with a SL55 if the driver is trying.

As far as Lee's 12.6 run...his car traps the same as other M3's...he just knows how to launch like a mofo and get 1.75 60' times. That's why he's run the fastest stock M3 times ever. But from a roll I have no doubt whatsoever I would take him...and I would have no chance with a SL55. You're completely full of shit, or are completely ignorant that the driver wasn't trying.


Just to clarify: The SL55 weighs 4319 lbs, the M3 weighs 3415 stock (I have Brembo Brake kit and Forged BBS RS-GT wheels which saves weight). The SL55 has 493 bhp, the M3 has 333 STOCK ( I have Dinan S2 software, Euro headers + cats, Eisenmann cat-back exhaust, and TMS powerpullies, and UUC shortshifter). If you go to the Mercedes Benz website and do a competitive comparison between the SL55 and the M3 it says that the SL does 0-60 in 4.5, the M3 in 4.8 (stock). With my mods and Michelin Pilot Sport tires, I should be doing at least 4.5 seconds to 60 on a good launch, not to mention the guy who had the video on here of him pulling a 12.6 1/4 mile with his M3 that only had pullies.

Assuming that my car has 360+ horsepower and weighs... lets say 50 lbs less than stock + 2 males (~300 lbs), that would be 250 lbs more than curb weight. The guy in the Mercedes was a fat ass, at least 220. So we will say that I have 30 more lbs of laden weight in my car making it weigh 3445 lbs... that makes the Mercedes power to weight ratio 9.2 HP per pound and my car 9.5 HP per pound. Basically we were almost equal in the circumstances.

Believe me or not, I don't care... I smoked that SL55 and it was fun until I almost died.

I didn't come her to brag about myself. You will note I didn't start a post about how great a lawyer I am and how I smoked a bunch of other lawyers in a big case.

Fortunately for me, my career and my self worth are not dependent upon what people believe about me on the internet.

Grow up.

That is amazing! Thank you for stating such a wonderful point! They say most people who have it, don't brag about it. They don't need to. If you are really all that & a bag of Fritos...you don't need to tell everyone about it. You as in MThreesome.

In fact, I hate when people judge. I hate when I get asked what I do for a living by people off the net or at car meets. I tell them it's none of their business. It is irrelevant. I just want people to enjoy my car, maybe get ideas from it, ask me questions about modding their car so that maybe I can help them out. I have done countless kills but I haven't posted a thread about one of them.

The point is...everything you brag about, probably isn't true. Statistics show, that is the case. I mean you are bragging through a keyboard no less to people who don't know you from one font style to the next. I am done.

The fontana speedway is running 1/4 mile drags the 10th of april.

I would like to invite you and your super fast M3 to run my friends C32 "BONE stock", haha, except pullies and sl55 airboxes. :rolleyes:

I would like to invite you on a canyon run with me and my friends ( I drive a PIECE OF SHIT BENZ that was made for people who only know how to go straight and press the gas) I promise you you WILL be behind me. I had a e36 3 series a few years ago and since buying my benz have completely changed how I view them. They will surprise you. They (for the most part) might not be the "sports car" of the two brands they will do very well......again I invite you to come find out. I have had road race VW's and this car handles every bit as good if not better...no off throttle oversteer or anything.

No disrespect to the many BMW owners on here. I love all cars that perform, unlike the closed minded ass we have here, and can respect any car that is quick, fast or just plain insane........ I am merely asking our tall tale telling friend here to come and prove it against another "pos benz" and not even an SL55!!!! but the cheapest AMG the C32....


BTW call me if you want more info about running (and I have hook ups on dyno runs too). 714-865-0166 (cell) Andy

The point is...everything you brag about, probably isn't true. Statistics show, that is the case. I mean you are bragging through a keyboard no less to people who don't know you from one font style to the next. I am done.

@highboostingm3
No truer words have been written on this forum.

True talent and/or merit does not need advertising or a hype man, it speaks for itself.

Many members and even moderators on this board could learn from this.

Now allow me to retort:

First of all the car was completely stock EXCEPT for pullies

Second of all, weather or not the launch was the ZENITH as you so put it is irrelevant. He ran the 1/4 mile, it can be done, and I am confident that I could pull off the same in my car due to the fact that I have more mods.

Lastly, I have heard of the 65 series, it will be the most powerful engine ever built in a production car WHEN IT COMES OUT. The Mercedes SLR McLeran IS NOT AVAILABLE YET. So, yes the X50 996 Turbo will still spank any Mercedes IN PRODUCTION.

You would not make a good lawyer.

Why do I come back to say what I feel on this forum? It is entertaining to me. Do I give a damn what you haters here think about me? No. Will my M3 spank an SL55 AMG when launched properly against an equally competant driver as me? I think it will.

Yes, it does all boil down to the driver, but I think even the worst drivers can step on a gas pedal and steer a car straight (thats what Mercedes are for, idiots who cannot drive a stick who need twin turbo engines on overweight cars that lose to M3s so we can watch their expressions change).

Why didn't I put my car in neutral right away? Everything happend so fast, by the time I realized that my accelerator was actually stuck (abuot 2 secs) I was less than 100 feet from stopped cars and a red light. If this happened to any of you, you would understand. After I took the right turn, I did put the car in neutral, and it bounced off the rev limiter a whole bunch of times as we coasted... then I turned off the car and pulled the pedal off the floor.

And for all of you who have a problem with that, you can kiss my white ass!

WOW...greatest post of the 2004 :lol: :lol::lol::lol:

first, completely STOCK MEANS completely STOCK. A pully = modification.

second, in order to run a fast quarter mile you need a fast reaction time, and that means you need a quick 60 feet time. BTW, that means you also need "PERFECT" launch that might probably cause you to get a new gearbox if that ever happens.

Lastly, the SLR HAS been in production for over 2 months, just because you don't see one on the street doesn't mean it's not available.

Actually Frank, your reaction time has nothing to do with your 1/4 mile time. The clock doesn't start until your front tires cross the beam so you could literally sit there for 10 seconds and still run a 13.1. And perfect launches don't hurt your gearbox a bit. Maybe your clutch, but that's about it. Just FYI bro. :)


WOW...greatest post of the 2004 :lol: :lol::lol::lol:

first, completely STOCK MEANS completely STOCK. A pully = modification.

second, in order to run a fast quarter mile you need a fast reaction time, and that means you need a quick 60 feet time. BTW, that means you also need "PERFECT" launch that might probably cause you to get a new gearbox if that ever happens.

Lastly, the SLR HAS been in production for over 2 months, just because you don't see one on the street doesn't mean it's not available.

Actually Frank, your reaction time has nothing to do with your 1/4 mile time. The clock doesn't start until your front tires cross the beam so you could literally sit there for 10 seconds and still run a 13.1. And perfect launches don't hurt your gearbox a bit. Maybe your clutch, but that's about it. Just FYI bro. :)

I stand corrected. thanks. I thought they are all correlated at the light turns green.

I did meant the clutch btw.

Apparently you haven't met M Threesome before.

I don't know what the truth is, only that this guy makes a lot of wild claims and gets a lot of flack for it.

Well post number 6 on this thread just about summed things up... :eyecrazy:

"Yeah, I beat an 360 Modena that wasn't trying too". - someone much more funny than I am.

I think I'm going to drive to your dealership and hand a copy of this thread to the sales manager. Then I'm going to kick your ass and put you in your super-fastest-M3-off-the-production-line and roll you off a cliff for the good of BMW owners everywhere.

I've been reading this site a long time and though I recently registered I must say that reading all this stuff from you I have to hope you're just one big troll who's really attention starved, because if not I really have to wonder how you managed to get on the internet let alone register and post here on a regular basis.

Waahahahahaha!!! I would have a heart attack from laughter if you did this. Everyone at my dealership has seen these posts and they all find them hilarious. Nobody would care if you showed up here; they might get a good laugh about it though. The funniest part about all of this is that I have witnesses that were in my car, let alone the guy driving the SL55. Come to the dealership so we can all laugh at you and kick you out!

I may just do that, I'll bring the M5 thread along as well as other ridiculous trolls you've posted here. Should be a rather amusing addition to my day.

Everyone at my dealership has seen these posts and they all find them hilarious.

Ah, so what you're saying is everyone there already knows you're an idiot? I need to see this for myself.

Waahahahahaha!!! I would have a heart attack from laughter if you did this. Everyone at my dealership has seen these posts and they all find them hilarious. Nobody would care if you showed up here; they might get a good laugh about it though. The funniest part about all of this is that I have witnesses that were in my car, let alone the guy driving the SL55. Come to the dealership so we can all laugh at you and kick you out!
Dude. You're pathetic. Give it up.

Just for the record, one more time...

You are claiming that you can beat any stock SL55 (nearly 500 hp), in your 350 hp max M3, anytime, anywhere.

I just want to clarify this.

I love this thread!!!

Im willing to bet that a stock C32s will beat this guy.

Side note, Im vrey close to jumping ship, next car will be a C32 or C55, hopefully sooner than later!! Only thing holding me back is a lack of car payments at the moment

C55? theyre gonna stick that in the C?

that would be SICK, 500 hp in that thing will absolutley be nuts

Just for the record, one more time...

You are claiming that you can beat any stock SL55 (nearly 500 hp), in your 350 hp max M3, anytime, anywhere.

I just want to clarify this.

WITH two other people in his car.

But he was "power-shifting" so that might've been a factor, also. :rolleyes:

C55? theyre gonna stick that in the C?

that would be SICK, 500 hp in that thing will absolutley be nuts

As I understand it, the V8 in the small benzes will be NA, and around 350 hp.

yeah, unfortunately its not the supercharged version. But Im sure someone will figure out how to bolt one on there!!!

I hear since the power is still the same, the C55 might be slower cause of the heavier weight of the V8.

I'll pick a stock M3 over stock C32 anyday of the day of the week. They just don't run quite as fast. But a SL55 would destroy him.


I love this thread!!!

Im willing to bet that a stock C32s will beat this guy.

Side note, Im vrey close to jumping ship, next car will be a C32 or C55, hopefully sooner than later!! Only thing holding me back is a lack of car payments at the moment

I'll pick a stock M3 over stock C32 anyday of the day of the week. They just don't run quite as fast. But a SL55 would destroy him.

I think it would be close. I thought I remember seeing that their 1/4 mile times were really similar. I could be wrong though. I still want one over a new M3, I prefer sedans, and Im tired of driving a 5 speed. My car may be a bit faster now...but the thought of a factory supercharged car where I can just put it in drive and not worry....no rattles...no stress about smog... ahhh, thats the life :redspot

WITH two other people in his car.

But he was "power-shifting" so that might've been a factor, also. :rolleyes:
So for the record, this clown claims to beat any stock SL55 (nearly 500 hp), in your 350 hp max M3 with three other passengers, anytime, anywhere.

I don't know what to say a this point.

Ok, first of all ive driven both C32 and M3 cuz ive recently sold my C32 after owning it for a year to get into an M3.

On a straight line it can go either way, 0-60, 0-100, id rather be in the M3 cuz i do feel it to be a lil faster,

However, if i was driving on the highway at 80mph and flooring it all the way to the limit id rather be in the C32. Again it will be a very close race.


Id put my money on the M3 from a standstill but money on C32 from a roll of greater than 80mph.

Oh back to the thread there is NO WAY IN HELL an M3 can keep up with an SL55amg, someone is smoking too much crack.

Just a quick heads up MThreesome. Next time you go 90MPH on a surface street, blow through a red light past stopped cars in the right lane, pray to God that no one is coming, manage to make a 90 degree right turn at a speed that even you say was way too high, go completely sideways and across the double yellow, and finally come to a stop in the middle of the road, you better hope that you haven't killed anyone. And if you do kill someone, you better hope that their attorney doesn't get his hands on these threads that you post. I'm sure brahtw8 would love to lead a wrongful death case against you, and I'd bet at least $20 bucks he would win, Magna Cum Laude, or not. Then you will be selling cars for the rest of your life and probably driving a Ford Escort if you’re still lucky enough to have your license. Do yourself a favor, and those just trying to get home alive, go to a track with your world's fastest M3 or at least a road in the middle of no where. So your M3 is a tenth of a second faster than a SL55 (Mercedes guys, please don't jump down my throat for that, I'm not saying that it really is!), but seriously, what are you going to do when you broadside a family in a minivan? Its guys like you that make families in minivans give me an evil look when I pull up next to them at a light.

No, the money shift occurs because when you miss shift into a lower gear, you are mechanically forcing the engine to rev higher, shifting to neutral removes any mechanical connection the engine has from the drive drain, thus when the rev limiter is hit, fuel is cut and the engine slows down.

With a miss shift the rev limiter will still kick in and stop fuel flow, but because your still connecting the engine to the transmission, which is still spinning because your tires are spinning as you travel down the road, you mechanically force the engine to overrev.

Hope that helps.


ahh that makes sense. thanks

Just a quick heads up MThreesome. Next time you go 90MPH on a surface street, blow through a red light past stopped cars in the right lane, pray to God that no one is coming, manage to make a 90 degree right turn at a speed that even you say was way too high, go completely sideways and across the double yellow, and finally come to a stop in the middle of the road, you better hope that you haven't killed anyone. And if you do kill someone, you better hope that their attorney doesn't get his hands on these threads that you post. I'm sure brahtw8 would love to lead a wrongful death case against you, and I'd bet at least $20 bucks he would win, Magna Cum Laude, or not. Then you will be selling cars for the rest of your life and probably driving a Ford Escort if you’re still lucky enough to have your license. Do yourself a favor, and those just trying to get home alive, go to a track with your world's fastest M3 or at least a road in the middle of no where. So your M3 is a tenth of a second faster than a SL55 (Mercedes guys, please don't jump down my throat for that, I'm not saying that it really is!), but seriously, what are you going to do when you broadside a family in a minivan? Its guys like you that make families in minivans give me an evil look when I pull up next to them at a light.

I agree on this one. It doesn't matter who's faster because if this is for real, he almost killed somebody in the street.

Will my M3 spank an SL55 AMG when launched properly against an equally competant driver as me? I think it will.

But from YOUR first postthat started this thread, you said you had a bad launch. So how do you explain this? Your car will beat an SL%% no matter a good or bad launch?

Like I said before :bs:

Why do you guys bother arguing with someone so stupid. This tread shoould just be stoped. Mthreesome next time get all your bullshit straight so you wont look like a total idiot. Braking Distance: 112 ft on stock M3s your telling me your Brembos couldnt stop in time and since your such a great driver that you launch at 1.75 you couldnt think of puting the car in nuteral. Untill you beat a SL55 on the tracks dont bother coming here posting.

And if you do kill someone, you better hope that their attorney doesn't get his hands on these threads that you post. I'm sure brahtw8 would love to lead a wrongful death case against you, and I'd bet at least $20 bucks he would win, Magna Cum Laude, or not.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I don't really care for Personal Injury law all that much, and I am not licensed to practice in California. ;)

The point about the absurdity and danger of some of these street encounters is well taken. I don't pretend to be a saint on the street, but I think I have a pretty good sense of what is reasonable, even if it may differ from the perspective of law enforcement on occasion. It is important to recognize how easy it is for things to go terribly wrong. I don't wish that on anyone, even those that annoy me with their arrogance and immaturity.

I guess my insurance agent has great timing, as he just sent me some information on a multi-million dollar umbrella policy. I think I am going to bite, as the deal is too good to pass up, and you never know what can happen.

I think we're just flattering this guy by honoring this thread with this many replies. Of course his stupidity (or masterful trolling) does make it tempting.

I really must head over to this mysterious dealership and see if he tells these stories face to face (I'm guessing not).

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nice video :D

As I understand it, the V8 in the small benzes will be NA, and around 350 hp.

it'll have the same base engine without the supercharger. 360hp and 370lb-ft tq and $2-3k more than the C32. :mad:

Ok, first of all ive driven both C32 and M3 cuz ive recently sold my C32 after owning it for a year to get into an M3.

On a straight line it can go either way, 0-60, 0-100, id rather be in the M3 cuz i do feel it to be a lil faster,

However, if i was driving on the highway at 80mph and flooring it all the way to the limit id rather be in the C32. Again it will be a very close race.


Id put my money on the M3 from a standstill but money on C32 from a roll of greater than 80mph.

Oh back to the thread there is NO WAY IN HELL an M3 can keep up with an SL55amg, someone is smoking too much crack.

I'd tell you it's because of the sitting position. I rode and droved my friend's SMG all the time and because of the M3/3-coupe's sitting position is pretty high you get more sensation of the speed when you are looking out.

as long as it's not from a deadstop, I would think that the C32 will have the upper hand after 60mph. For the handling dept, hands down to the M3.

yeah, unfortunately its not the supercharged version. But Im sure someone will figure out how to bolt one on there!!!

I hear since the power is still the same, the C55 might be slower cause of the heavier weight of the V8.

actually, MB AMG has already stated that it weighs the same as the C32

remember, the 5.4 liter V8 isnt weighed down by the supercharger and related piping, so it actually shouldnt b that much heavier, if even at all

actually, MB AMG has already stated that it weighs the same as the C32

remember, the 5.4 liter V8 isnt weighed down by the supercharger and related piping, so it actually shouldnt b that much heavier, if even at all

the 5.4 V8 is about the same as the s/c V6 in weight, but still slight heavier. The front end of the C55 however will be heavier due to a longer structure of the new nose and extra sheet metal. The suspension upgrade from AMG should bring the C55 to perform as good as the C32 or even better.

M Threesome, consider this an official warning, your conduct in this thread is not welcome here. Flames, attacks, name-calling, and excessive profanity in the Main Forums are all enough to have action taken against your account here.

Consider yourself officially on thin ice.