View Full Version : E36 M3 vs. '98 Maxima 5spd


luckee2bhere
03-21-2004, 07:13 PM
I was cruising on 85 south when I see a white E36 M3. I pull up next to him and match his speed. He has his window down so he can hear my car and he looks over and gives me a smirk. Hmmm....maybe he wants to play. I downshift and give it some gas to see if he follows.

He doesn't. So whatever...I am cruising down the highway and a few minutes later I see him hauling donkey right behind me. He pulls up maybe 3 car lengths behind me at 70mph.

I hit it. Rowing throw the gears I am hauling. He is still right behind me. He is pulling slowly...prolly made up a car length of distance at this point. He has 2 lanes to the left available to him. I don't understand why he hasn't taken them and passed me already. I look down...140 is on the speedo...OH JEEZ!. I immediately let off the gas. He was too close to hit the brakes. Whats the wacko do? Flies around me at about 145 or so and throws on his flashers.

I'm thinking to myself ...What just happened? :confused:

An E36 M3 auto or manual from a highway roll I always thought would lay a smack down on me. As close as it was I am guessing it was Auto.

Thing I dont get is why the guy thought he had to throw on the flashers...I was braking when he passed. :icon15:

Edited for language

mrclam
03-21-2004, 07:19 PM
I think he must've been toying with you. I've had both cars and there is no way a maxima would ever keep up with an m3 like that. The m3 is so much faster he could pull on you easily in every gear. It would be a difference of at least 7-8 carlengths by 140 if not more.

luckee2bhere
03-21-2004, 07:25 PM
I think he must've been toying with you. I've had both cars and there is no way a maxima would ever keep up with an m3 like that. The m3 is so much faster he could pull on you easily in every gear. It would be a difference of at least 7-8 carlengths by 140 if not more.

i thought about that. but throwing on the flashers seems to me like he thought he won or beat me or whatever. so that made me think he was trying. who knows?

my best is 14.5 in the quarter but my car has an ugly powerband and highway runs are not impressive in it usually.

slocar
03-21-2004, 07:54 PM
maybe he kept it in 5th the whole time

rmani
03-21-2004, 10:14 PM
I think he must've been toying with you. I've had both cars and there is no way a maxima would ever keep up with an m3 like that. The m3 is so much faster he could pull on you easily in every gear. It would be a difference of at least 7-8 carlengths by 140 if not more.


Agreed...perhaps it was an auto, or he just left it in 5th gear. Either way the whole waiting until you hit the brakes to fly around you sounds pretty dumb. The guy sounds like a moron.

tEckniks
03-22-2004, 12:33 AM
lol hazards at 145... hahaha

BabyM
03-22-2004, 12:52 AM
The guy sounds like a moron.

Yeah Klass with a capital K.

craaaazzy
03-22-2004, 10:59 AM
i believe i know who your talking about. there's 2 white maximas in the atlanta area that are very well done up. both turbos. one putting down 390 (5 speed) and the other at 260 (auto)(more hp now since he upgraded his turbo). it's most likely one of them. they're easily in the mid 13 second cars with what they have.

although u and i have an m3 does not mean our cars are the fastest out there...

blackened
03-22-2004, 01:32 PM
maybe you didnt read the post :D

SilverStreak
03-22-2004, 02:38 PM
luckee, please watch the language in the Main Forums, even with creative spelling...

Also, since when do you drive a TransAm...? (You have Batmobile listed as your car... ;) )

craaaazzy
03-22-2004, 03:01 PM
oops, i totally misread that! i knew that name looked familiar cause he's on the maxima board.

maybe you didnt read the post :D

surfacewound
03-22-2004, 03:24 PM
I think a retarded driver is what happened. He probably thought he'd still smoke you staying in 5th, and got pissed when he realized he didn't pass you as easily as he thought, and pulled the ol' retarded ricar hazzards stunt.

luckee2bhere
03-22-2004, 04:19 PM
luckee, please watch the language in the Main Forums, even with creative spelling...

Also, since when do you drive a TransAm...? (You have Batmobile listed as your car... ;) )


my bad...just trying to show my emotion....didnt expect to see 140mph when I looked down. pretty scary going that fast.

check the original post...i got more creative with my language.

I changed the car to Batmobile as a joke. Everytime I was giving imput on BF.C people would look at the car I drive and give me attitude like "What do you know? You drive a Maxima." To put the BS aside I went alittle stealth on BF.C with "My car"

BTW ...TransAm??? what am i missing?

luckee2bhere
03-22-2004, 04:22 PM
i believe i know who your talking about. there's 2 white maximas in the atlanta area that are very well done up. both turbos. one putting down 390 (5 speed) and the other at 260 (auto)(more hp now since he upgraded his turbo). it's most likely one of them. they're easily in the mid 13 second cars with what they have.


Cant believe you left out Jay. Jays putting down 335 or so with 5spd. His car looks bad as hell and he's one cool dude. :cool:

SilverStreak
03-22-2004, 04:26 PM
my bad...just trying to show my emotion....didnt expect to see 140mph when I looked down. pretty scary going that fast.

check the original post...i got more creative with my language.

I changed the car to Batmobile as a joke. Everytime I was giving imput on BF.C people would look at the car I drive and give me attitude like "What do you know? You drive a Maxima." To put the BS aside I went alittle stealth on BF.C with "My car"

BTW ...TransAm??? what am i missing?
Thanks for the edit...

Lots of folks used to say the last gen TransAm in black looked like the Batmobile...

$150FC
03-22-2004, 04:44 PM
No way he was in fifth the whole time. You guys give too much credit sometimes ;)

Maybe he was in the wrong gear, but I doubt he would have kept up in fifth.

surfacewound
03-22-2004, 05:17 PM
But from 4th he would've passed him way before reaching 140mph...

rmani
03-22-2004, 06:06 PM
No way he was in fifth the whole time. You guys give too much credit sometimes ;)

Maybe he was in the wrong gear, but I doubt he would have kept up in fifth.

a friend of mine has a 2002 maxima se 5 spd (~220ish HP). His car is quick, but an absolute dog above 100. My stock e36 m3, even if left in 5th, would easily hang and quickly pass him. He also has a modded 2003 330ci and even his 330 would easily walk the maxima above 100.

///MEric
03-22-2004, 06:29 PM
maybe he was racing with cruise control

slickav
03-22-2004, 06:36 PM
Ive raced slower cars before, and just stay on their tail, making the point that I COULD pass them If I wanted to.

Just a thought ;)

luckee2bhere
03-22-2004, 06:40 PM
a friend of mine has a 2002 maxima se 5 spd (~220ish HP). His car is quick, but an absolute dog above 100. .

2000-2001 have 222hp
2002-2003 have 255hp

which one is it?
cause '02-'03 will run solid 14.2s with a decent driver on 6spd...an E36 would not walk it in fifth...if the max was auto...it would be different of course.

luckee2bhere
03-22-2004, 06:43 PM
Ive raced slower cars before, and just stay on their tail, making the point that I COULD pass them If I wanted to.

Just a thought ;)

yeah i got ya. just seems like when there are 2 lanes available that one would try to make his point earlier than 145mph.

luckee2bhere
03-22-2004, 06:46 PM
maybe he was racing with cruise control


:laugh

Dayum...look at my post count. I'm keeping it here forever...Offtopic from here on out...ha. :thinkerg:

liqidvenom
03-24-2004, 08:23 PM
i raced my friend who has a 97m3 and his car is very nicely modded and i had him in 3rd gear with my maxima. i didnt leave him in the dust or anything but when were neck and neck until i had to shift at 6200 and he went up to 7???. i thought he would have taken me or somethin but im proud to be able to keep up wit him if its only in 3rd gear.

ADVANT123
03-24-2004, 08:37 PM
I can attest that Liquid Venom did hang with me in 3rd gear on my modified m3... but Liquid venom, care to tell the rest of the crowd what happened after third gear :firedevil

liqidvenom
03-24-2004, 08:41 PM
ouch that hurts...but after 3rd gear i went into 4th and u procedded to walk away from me. i never said i left u, i just said we ran neck and neck until i hit 4th gear when u put a 1/2cl on me before we went to wawa.
i aint a scared of u and ur yellow car :boid:

ADVANT123
03-24-2004, 08:44 PM
Hehehe, don't worry, I still got mad love for the Maxi.... Next time, I won't be so nice :kiss:

liqidvenom
03-24-2004, 08:46 PM
just wait until i'm blown and it would be a totally different story...2600 bucks to go till the blowing begins

luckee2bhere
03-24-2004, 09:03 PM
just wait until i'm blown and it would be a totally different story...2600 bucks to go till the blowing begins

where at in Jersey are you from?

I'm from South Jersey...city called Mt. Laurel.

you going TC or SC? I am going to try to save all my pennies for supercharger by this time next year....realisticly thinking.

rmani
03-24-2004, 10:46 PM
2000-2001 have 222hp
2002-2003 have 255hp

which one is it?
cause '02-'03 will run solid 14.2s with a decent driver on 6spd...an E36 would not walk it in fifth...if the max was auto...it would be different of course.


oops no it's a 2001 then. the 255hp maximas are very quick.

luckee2bhere
03-25-2004, 03:59 AM
oops no it's a 2001 then. the 255hp maximas are very quick.


right on man.

its confusing...i dont really know everything about the hp ratings.

95-99 were 190 (4th gen body style)
00 were 222 (5th gen body style)
i think 01 were actually 227(5th gen body style)
02-03 were 255 (5th gen body style)
04 are 265(6th gen body style)

supposedly 02-03 are the fastest from the factory...although 04s are within a .1 sec in the 1/4 from what i know.

also although 00-01 have more hp than 95-99...i think 95-99 are quicker cause of weight.

and the last thing is 95-96 are the fastest out of 95-99 cause they weigh less and are OBDI...for ex. my car weighs in at 2940 I believe with my light wheels, lighter catback , and lighter udp...not huge weight savings but weight saving nonetheless. 95-96 weigh in fully loaded somewhere in the 2700s I believe..thats leather, sunroof, everything....i have cloth.

I THINK THATS ALL I GOT>....all the Maxima knowledege ANYONE would need...lol.

craaaazzy
03-25-2004, 11:55 AM
00 and 01 had 222 except for the anniversary edition w/ 227. :cool:

right on man.

its confusing...i dont really know everything about the hp ratings.

95-99 were 190 (4th gen body style)
00 were 222 (5th gen body style)
i think 01 were actually 227(5th gen body style)
02-03 were 255 (5th gen body style)
04 are 265(6th gen body style)

supposedly 02-03 are the fastest from the factory...although 04s are within a .1 sec in the 1/4 from what i know.

also although 00-01 have more hp than 95-99...i think 95-99 are quicker cause of weight.

and the last thing is 95-96 are the fastest out of 95-99 cause they weigh less and are OBDI...for ex. my car weighs in at 2940 I believe with my light wheels, lighter catback , and lighter udp...not huge weight savings but weight saving nonetheless. 95-96 weigh in fully loaded somewhere in the 2700s I believe..thats leather, sunroof, everything....i have cloth.

I THINK THATS ALL I GOT>....all the Maxima knowledege ANYONE would need...lol.

SilverStreak
03-25-2004, 01:49 PM
Where in NJ is everyone?

liqidvenom
03-25-2004, 03:45 PM
where at in Jersey are you from?

I'm from South Jersey...city called Mt. Laurel.

you going TC or SC? I am going to try to save all my pennies for supercharger by this time next year....realisticly thinking.

i'm actually from paramus in bergen county but i spen alot of time in newark where i go to school (NJIT). i'm actually gettin a deal on a sc from a friend who is gettin a 2002 m5 from his dad and selling me all of his sc parts for cheap. i just have to come up wit the money. i've begun to save already... by now i have $93 towards my goal :D

rmani
03-25-2004, 06:35 PM
somerset county

luckee2bhere
03-25-2004, 08:54 PM
i'm actually from paramus in bergen county but i spen alot of time in newark where i go to school (NJIT). i'm actually gettin a deal on a sc from a friend who is gettin a 2002 m5 from his dad and selling me all of his sc parts for cheap. i just have to come up wit the money. i've begun to save already... by now i have $93 towards my goal :D

haha...nice.

SilverStreak
03-25-2004, 10:24 PM
Luckee, when are you in NJ next?

luckee2bhere
03-26-2004, 12:29 AM
Luckee, when are you in NJ next?

School ends on May 10th...so around that time.
I might come home for a couple days before then but I doubt it.


You should come get rowdy on the 18th for my 21st in Philly...ha.
:drink2: :beer: :drink3: :drink1: wheres the throwup icon? and the icon that shows me going to the hospital?

surfacewound
03-26-2004, 01:15 AM
:beermugdr then lots of :toiletman

:)

luckee2bhere
03-26-2004, 01:48 AM
:beermugdr then lots of :toiletman

:)
yup. :tong:

SilverStreak
03-26-2004, 10:52 AM
18th of May?

luckee2bhere
03-26-2004, 12:27 PM
yup.


on a side note: I am beginning to notice my threads never stay on track...oh well...haha. :slowturn:

SilverStreak
03-26-2004, 12:32 PM
That's a Tuesday... maybe...

RastaMan530
03-26-2004, 02:15 PM
right on man.

its confusing...i dont really know everything about the hp ratings.

95-99 were 190 (4th gen body style)
00 were 222 (5th gen body style)
i think 01 were actually 227(5th gen body style)
02-03 were 255 (5th gen body style)
04 are 265(6th gen body style)

supposedly 02-03 are the fastest from the factory...although 04s are within a .1 sec in the 1/4 from what i know.

also although 00-01 have more hp than 95-99...i think 95-99 are quicker cause of weight.

and the last thing is 95-96 are the fastest out of 95-99 cause they weigh less and are OBDI...for ex. my car weighs in at 2940 I believe with my light wheels, lighter catback , and lighter udp...not huge weight savings but weight saving nonetheless. 95-96 weigh in fully loaded somewhere in the 2700s I believe..thats leather, sunroof, everything....i have cloth.

I THINK THATS ALL I GOT>....all the Maxima knowledege ANYONE would need...lol.

There is no 4th gen Maxima that weighs near in the 2700's, not even the GXE's are near that weight. In reality the difference in weight of the 95/96 and 97-99 are the bumper reinforcements. There is at most a 30-50lb difference between the two. 4th gens weigh ~3000lb 5th gens 3300lb+ and 6th gens 3500lb. The 02/03's are overrated in horsepower, putting down only ~205fwhp/220fwtq stock. They are still quick however, 1 guy recently pulled a 14.1 bone stock 03 6MT and there's another with intake, removed AC, slightly modded intake manifold, Toyo T1-S, 6MT that's now running ~13.6@106. Light bolt on 5.5gens typically run into the 220fwhp/240fwtq range, so they're quite capable. Typical bolt on 4th gens run 14.7-14.3 and trapping up to 99mph with ~185fwhp/195fwtq. The thing that suffers on the 4th gens is the lack of top end grunt. MEVI equipped cars can gain ~30fwhp at redline and are thus much stronger on highway runs, but sacrifice power down low. Some really good drivers and extensive bolt ons can get 14.3-14.1 which is in the area of a stock E36 M3. There is speculation as to how the auto 04' Maxima is so fast when it is only rated at 265HP and has more weight + big heavy 18" stock wheels on the SE 5sp auto trans. There's people running ~14.4 or under with their stock 5sp autos. Check out this run (stock vs stock) against a 330ci stick.

330ci 2k4 max 5sp
R/T: .846 .586
60': 2.153 2.129
330: 6.126 6.042
1/8: 9.397 9.264
MPH: 75.96 76.24
1000: 12.177 12.032
1/4: 14.505 14.368
MPH: 97.91 96.45

BTW: I do not care to prove those times, you are free to believe what you want if there are any doubters or people looking to flame. I won't defend it simply because i do not care. Yes, yes i've heard them all before "Oh wait until you come twisties, BS flag, what would you rather drive a Nissan or a BMW, etc." There are idiotic spectators everywhere, i'm simply looking for a discussion. :) Also notice how the 330ci has a 1.5mph higher trap speed, if the race went on longer he would've pulled for sure.

LEMAR