http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63708

Love the last line:
But it's no M3 beater.

:evil2

just raced an E55 last night. crusing at 90mph, and suddenly it accelerates and i've tired to catch up w/ my stock SMG to fourth; after a little while, i was only able to keep up...he's probably reserving.
btw, my friend's 996 911 carrera 4 was no faster than me either.

just raced an E55 last night. crusing at 90mph, and suddenly it accelerates and i've tired to catch up w/ my stock SMG to fourth; after a little while, i was only able to keep up...he's probably reserving.
btw, my friend's 996 911 carrera 4 was no faster than me either.
Was the E55 a new one or was it the old body style? The new E55 has a supercharged engine, the C55 does not.

Also, your car should have been slightly faster than your friend's Porsche, unless you have a 'vert and/or were racing from a dead stop to 60mph. I raced a new 911 last night on the highway, side by side. I started a little behind when he punched it, and then so did I. I was able to slowly gain on him, gaining on his bumper slightly, but for some reason he decided to come into my lane, cutting me off, so I had to hit the brakes (asshole). I know I would have pulled on him more if he would have stayed in his lane.

it was the new one, of course. (being an E46 M owner, understanding our amazing cars, the older E55 should not even be on our hit list, and you should know this!)
And, like i've said, my friend's 911 was NO FASTER than me either.
Anyhow, it's bothering me...the E's and the 5's got more room for a much bigger engine, and therefore we're losing to the bigger cars. It's so wrong. Do you guys agree with my point of the big cars having the advantage in capacity with big engines?

btw, i thought C55 got the same engine as the E, but i was wrong.

so downshifting to 2nd locks up the rear wheels? that sounds safe...

so downshifting to 2nd locks up the rear wheels? that sounds safe...

It's an auto, so manually downshifitng into 2nd is akin to downshifting into 2nd in a manual car without rev-matching.

Dangerous on the track.

QUOTE=PaulSoo217]it was the new one, of course.




I dont know about that.New E55 has 469hp's vs your 333.It probably was a E500. C55 has old engine(e55) rated at 367 hp. New E55 is terribly insane!

new e55 are quick 0-60 4.6sec,m3 got to try hard to beat it,i almost bought c55 but i like m3 looks better.and acording to the stats i have its 0-60 in 4,8 sec just like an m3.

can the C55's beat a stock M3? cus my friend and i are debating wether it can beat it or not. he says it can and i say no but it will keep up. and he also says that the c55 will get off the line quicker than an M3.

what do you guys think?

damn a 5.4l V8 and puts out 367hp.....not that impressive compared to how much BMW squeezed out of the tiny 3.2l inline6 s54.

damn a 5.4l V8 and puts out 367hp.....not that impressive compared to how much BMW squeezed out of the tiny 3.2l inline6 s54.


And because of that they won't have some of the same issue's as the early S52 did. Also I'm sure there is substationaly more torque with the V8.

It's confusing what MB is doing. In the late 90's they had a C55, then they introduced the C32, now back to C55. I guess they did this becuz Audi went with the V8 for the A4. Soon BMW will follow suit. Did you guys see this months article in Eurotuner about Evosport C32? :eek:

actually MB had a c36 and then a c43 in the last body style of the C class. that body style went all the way up to 2001.
the new body style C class had a c32 and now a c55.
MB likes making mistakes.

damn a 5.4l V8 and puts out 367hp.....not that impressive compared to how much BMW squeezed out of the tiny 3.2l inline6 s54.
The Amg engine makes 371lbs of torque that pretty dang good, it's a tad quicker that the M3 of the line!

actually MB had a c36 and then a c43 in the last body style of the C class. that body style went all the way up to 2001.
the new body style C class had a c32 and now a c55.
MB likes making mistakes.Last yr of the C43 was 2000.You were only able to get a w202 body C55 in Europe.You had to give AMG your C43 to do the transformation. C43 to C55.


C55 then has same motor as C55 now.

(347hp@5500 376lbtrq @ 3000-4000rpm's old C55 )vs 367hp and 371 ftlbs trq new C55.

damn a 5.4l V8 and puts out 367hp.....not that impressive compared to how much BMW squeezed out of the tiny 3.2l inline6 s54.

Yeah, and keep in mind that BMW never takes the easy route to F/I their engines. Imagine what a supercharged or even turbo charged M3 could do to an AMG tuned MB :evil2

Yeah, and keep in mind that BMW never takes the easy route to F/I their engines. Imagine what a supercharged or even turbo charged M3 could do to an AMG tuned MB :evil2Hey all speculation aside chk out Renntech,Brabus!!!! Unless you know 1st hand what a tuned AMG would run like! S-P-E-C-U-L-A-T-I-O-N!!!! :nono I'm sure tuned BMW's run well as do tuned AMG MB's!

http://www.mbautowerks.com/1103drag/1103drag.htm

http://www.renntechmercedes.com

And don't worry I can show you some twin turbo C36's as well! By the way BMW did have some stock turbo BMW's back in the 80's and 70's.

Hey all speculation aside chk out Renntech,Brabus!!!! Unless you know 1st hand what a tuned AMG would run like! S-P-E-C-U-L-A-T-I-O-N!!!! :nono I'm sure tuned BMW's run well as do tuned AMG MB's!
Actually, I'm a very proud owner of a black SL 55 AMG (just got it last month!), so I do know first hard what AMG can do for a MB. But this thread was about the C55 and my initial point was that there's a lot of potential upside for N/A BMW engines. So if I look at your links, RennTech can take an already F/I C32 AMG to 394 HP while AA can F/I the M3 to 440 HP.

Can't compare the V8 C55 directly to M3 yet, unless you take Hartge H50 variation.

Well my friend just took posession of the first C55 In Boston. he bought it from Foreign Motors West.. The car is stuuning and the brakes are simply amazing. He was in break in when we were hanging out last time so we didnt race.

I will arrange this asap because Im dying to find out. My launching skills are not the best however so im a bit worried about that...

Actually, I'm a very proud owner of a black SL 55 AMG (just got it last month!), so I do know first hard what AMG can do for a MB. But this thread was about the C55 and my initial point was that there's a lot of potential upside for N/A BMW engines. So if I look at your links, RennTech can take an already F/I C32 AMG to 394 HP while AA can F/I the M3 to 440 HP.

Can't compare the V8 C55 directly to M3 yet, unless you take Hartge H50 variation.Well ,I dont understand your point.The c55 is normally aspirated!And renntech and brabus have done some tremendous power increases on N/A motors. And what makes you think that you cant get more than renntech's posted 394HP's outta MB''s C32? What are the mod's of their C32 vs the mods of the AA M3? That's what you need to compare.That's what would strengthen your point! And unless AA chgd the pistons in their M3,the M3 is also running higher compression than the C32.You need to look at all these things B4 you make statements like :


(So if I look at your links, RennTech can take an already F/I C32 AMG to 394 HP while AA can F/I the M3 to 440 HP.) and


(Yeah, and keep in mind that BMW never takes the easy route to F/I their engines. Imagine what a supercharged or even turbo charged M3 could do to an AMG tuned MB ) that's all I'm saying. M division (not sure of the proper name)tunes BMW's AMG tunes MB's. How can you compare what AA did to a stck M BMW vs an AMG tuned stck MB?



P.S. Let renntech or Brabus get their hands on a amg c55!

kleeman is looking at the 650 BHP range for a charged C55