okay so im planning on getting an '04 m3 coupe.. i currently like its speeds as is, however putting a budget aside, what could I do to this to make it just insanely fast? i was hoping to get the quarter just under 13 and 0-60 in under 4 (if its do able?)

i thought about carbon fiber, but i can't seem to find the weights of the panels as it is and im not sure if this would throw of the cars centered balance (it was 50.3% front 49.7% rear)

anythings possible since the budget is put aside..

M3 CSL?

sorry, im a real newb when it comes to bmw's don't know *too* much about them =\ csl being? :95

csl

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/bmw_m3csl.asp

Turner motorsports is also making a kit to "mirror" the europe only csl.

<edit> okay i take that back, its not the csl.. but whats the advantage of the csl and why?

Read about the Turner M3 in the latest issue of Roundel...badass car...

the csl does just about everything better

I heard all were spoken for.

well it doens't look like they made a csl for the '04 models?

either way, i think i'll stick with the regular '04 m3, but what could i throw in it and would carbon fiber be worth it?

You would have to import the CSL though. (Not even sure if you can) It is not sold in the US.

However, for that amount of money you might as well buy a Porsche 911 GT3, which was named car of the year 2003.

But the CSL looks sooooooo badass!!!

The CSL is overrated.

well the m3 coupe will end up being like $53k.. and i'd planned on putting anything i mod it, in either next december or maybe next summer.. but i don't want to spend more then 100k all together.. (that would include the price of the car)...

however, im sure i could come close or something.. heh

im just mainly looking to lower the quarter mile and the 0-60 time.. while keeping it as a practical daily car...

He doesnt care about the damn CSL!!! Someone that knows just answer his question!


With that budget...throw on a turbo.

now another question, turbo or supercharge? I've heard that the m3 is already a very high compression engine so turbo or super charging it would be difficult with lower results...

You're getting a 2004 M3 and you're only 18? Damn, what's your job?!

I've heard 450whp via supercharging. I wouldn't call that too shabby.

Well, Retail Price for a Porsche 911 GT3 Coupe '04 is: $99,900.
And no need to mod that car!

Your 18 and buying a new 04 M3 on your own? Or mommy and daddy? I call BS.

450.. very nice.. any idea what the performance increases would be? by performance i mean actual speed increases..

billy - me and a friend have been working on an online business with my friends uncle and were a 'branch' of his company.. needless to say its successful.. were actually getting 2 identical m3's.. heh

if ur looking for low 0-60s and low quarter mile shouldnt u be looking at something other than a m3, there all about the track. U need a good dragging car.

Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
if ur looking for low 0-60s and low quarter mile shouldnt u be looking at something other than a m3, there all about the track. U need a good dragging car.

I agree, the M3 isn't meant for that. You can't expect much from a high compression engine which has the 3rd highest hp/L of any production car.

Originally posted by Sniper991122
okay so im planning on getting an '04 m3 coupe.. i currently like its speeds as is, however putting a budget aside, what could I do to this to make it just insanely fast? i was hoping to get the quarter just under 13 and 0-60 in under 4 (if its do able?)

i thought about carbon fiber, but i can't seem to find the weights of the panels as it is and im not sure if this would throw of the cars centered balance (it was 50.3% front 49.7% rear)

anythings possible since the budget is put aside..

Hey, I sell BMW's in Athens, GA. Lemme know if you'd like to get a great deal, and I'll see what I can work up. I've been known to discount an M3 or two. :D

sorry a little off topic but what other cars beat its hp/L?

Get a 3.91 diff and you should be in the 12's

I smell bullshit, sorry guy but unless you post pics and a title Im calling teh bs. Under 100k total? Yeah right gimme a break.

i would kinda have to agree with this dude above me, this kid comes on with 7 or so posts, something is fishy here, and i can sure smell it

no way in hell you break into the 3s for 0-60..sorry

:bs:

Just for fun, even tho its BS...

If you have 100k, why get an M3 at all?

But, if you did I would get an E36 and build that up. You would have much more room to tweak the motor.

Or, since you have 100k..buy a used E46M3, ditch the I6 and drop in an M5 engine and go with more aggressive gearing. You'd have a very fast car.

Online business? Cool, whats the URL?

Originally posted by 325is Dude
I smell bullshit, sorry guy but unless you post pics and a title Im calling teh bs. Under 100k total? Yeah right gimme a break.

okay just to clear this up...

how am i supposed to post pics and title when i've never claimed to have boughten the car yet?

the guy at the dealership told me it would take anywhere from 4-8 weeks to order one, so im probably going to be putting in my order in early april.. and of course i'll post plenty of pics for you since everyones so skeptical..

the company is online, but not like the typical website company your thinking of.. it deals with tracking mangaement for hundreds of big companies and getting them refunds etc..

another car I looked at is the mb slk32 by amg, but i think i decided on the m3 over that because its more practical going off to college having those extra 2 seats and more room...

also, im not asking whether you think im full of crap or not, I know that im not and don't need to prove myself, however i am asking what options do I have..

If your rich, post a pic of a bank statement editing out all the information wed need to steal anything. That'd be proof. And provide a URL of the website you maintain/own or whatever. If you do what you say the two together will give a decent source for believability.

Originally posted by Sniper991122
also, im not asking whether you think im full of crap or not, I know that im not and don't need to prove myself, however i am asking what options do I have..

I realize that my story may be a touch hard to believe, however I don't think i feel like going out, getting a bank statement taking a digital picture and editing out the stuff so you cant steal it...

just for the satisfaction that some guy online who i've never met knows im rich... :rolleyes:

this thread isn't titled
'look at me, im rich do you believe me'? (i've never stated to be)

its asking what options i have with the m3..

sniper, don't mind the haters.

Definetly look into getting a diff, it will make the biggest noticeable difference.

Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
sorry a little off topic but what other cars beat its hp/L? S2000

Originally posted by wmarcel
You would have to import the CSL though. (Not even sure if you can) It is not sold in the US.

there is NO way the CSL is smog legal, that'll cost even more $$$

i'm not telling you to prove anything, but since we're all online and so is your company, tell us the URL... wanna chek it out. Thats really simple aint it? or is your url on some top secret internet technology that we all haven't heard of...?

I don't think he would post something of this nature unless he has the money or is a really sad individual. But I don't think people get that much stimulation from claiming they are rich over the internet.

Originally posted by BimmerDawg
Hey, I sell BMW's in Athens, GA. Lemme know if you'd like to get a great deal, and I'll see what I can work up. I've been known to discount an M3 or two. :D

Doesn't sound like money is an issue for him...

If one really does have a 100k budget but only wants one car then an M3 is a great choice. Get a new M3, get a turbo for it, coil overs all around and you're pretty much set, with a lot of money to spare.

Originally posted by dinomite
If one really does have a 100k budget but only wants one car then an M3 is a great choice. Get a new M3, get a turbo for it, coil overs all around and you're pretty much set, with a lot of money to spare.

well i guess what im trying to say is i could see myself easily spending a lot on the car, and I don't want to spend way too much..

however, what i like about the m3 is that yes it is fast, it handles very well and its very comfortable.. It also has 4 seats which will be very practical for going off to college having room to throw stuff, and be able to haul people around..

a list of things i would think of adding are a 3.91 diff, i heard someone was coming out with a supercharger kit in a few months.. then probably full cat-back exhaust, some new pullies and a chip which would remove the governor and probably be a litlte more aggressive... along with a lighter flywheel... i wonder whre that would put me.. heh

how is the suspension on the car is? would it be worth putting in new suspension or just getting stiffer springs or anti-sway bar for the current suspension?

what I like about the m3 though is that even though im adding allt his the interior of the car is still very nice and comfortable..

Originally posted by Sniper991122
...how am i supposed to post pics and title when i've never claimed to have boughten the car yet?


:biglaughb This is one of the funnier things I've read on here in a while...

Boughten??? What the hell language is BOUGHTEN? :laugh

Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
if ur looking for low 0-60s and low quarter mile shouldnt u be looking at something other than a m3, there all about the track. U need a good dragging car.

Amen breddah :buttrock

If you do want to make you E46 M3 accelerate faster don'te mess with the engine.

Make it lighter.

Brian

Originally posted by slcook54
S2000
I'd imagine a Ferrari is on the top spot... for S2000 and M3:

S2000: 240 bhp / 2.2 litre = 109.1 hp/litre
M3: 333 bhp / 3.2 litre = 104.1 hp/litre

Originally posted by daihard
I'd imagine a Ferrari is on the top spot... for S2000 and M3:

S2000: 240 bhp / 2.2 litre = 109.1 hp/litre
M3: 333 bhp / 3.2 litre = 104.1 hp/litre

1994 318is S42 engine 280 / 2 litre = 140 hp/litre

BMW Motorsport has been building high specific output engines much longer than Ferrari and Honda have.

Brian

Originally posted by dallasbboy
1994 318is S42 engine 280 / 2 litre = 140 hp/litre

BMW Motorsport has been building high specific output engines much longer than Ferrari and Honda have.
Do you have the specs for that engine? I've never heard of an S42 engine putting out 280 bhp, at least not in a production version.

BTW, Honda's first DOHC VTEC engine produced 160 bhp / 1.6 litre in 1989 (in Japan). The modified version put out 170 bhp / 1.6 litre in 1991.

i would take the car to hartage and have them tune it ... if you wanted stupid speed..

hey for another 20K you can do an M5 engine drop , and sell your bran new m3 engine

or you can slap on a super charger on your m3 engine , and get Cats/ headers / Tb/ CAI / exhaust
then after that you can put in 75-100 shot of NOS !

i would not recommend nos though

im actually rethinking f/i and leaning more torwards n/a at this point.. just do a lot of weight reduction, and throw some lighter stuff into it..

Originally posted by Sniper991122
im actually rethinking f/i and leaning more torwards n/a at this point.. just do a lot of weight reduction, and throw some lighter stuff into it..
There are a lot of small things you can do to reduce the weight of the car. For instance, just changing the OEM wheels to a set of aftermarket forged rims can reduce the weight by more than 20 pounds, all below the centre of gravity. Ordering the car with no moonroof, no power seats and no H/K stereo... they will all help, too. (I got the car with H/K stereo, but the sound quality isn't what I expected from the "premium system" of a $50,000+ car. :()

spend the whole 100K and get a Stage 5 porsche .. 700 hp ..

Originally posted by daihard
There are a lot of small things you can do to reduce the weight of the car. For instance, just changing the OEM wheels to a set of aftermarket forged rims can reduce the weight by more than 20 pounds, all below the centre of gravity. Ordering the car with no moonroof, no power seats and no H/K stereo... they will all help, too. (I got the car with H/K stereo, but the sound quality isn't what I expected from the "premium system" of a $50,000+ car. :()

thats deffinately the path i think I intend to go except without stripping it down.. i'd planned on having the moonroof, power seats, the bi-xenon headlights and the navigation system, so that certainly isn't helping to reduce the weight :X

however I think i want to go practicality first, followed by reducing weight after its practical... if you know of a website, or a list of things you could change out to reduce the weight that'd be very helpful.. I can't think of too many things :(