So I', minding my own business, running through a mostly residential section, when I notice this {edited out} riding my {edited out} - somewhat unecessarily. I actually slow down a bit, so as to say, "go around, buddy," and he finally does. It's a cherry red mitsubishi 3000GT, somewhat riced out (lower and much louder than I recall this car being). Well, I continue doing my 40-45 in this 35 zone, while said {edited out} flies around my left doin about 70.

Stop light, and I come up in the right lane. I'm thinking, is this dude going to tear into it at the green? It's the beginning of a 50 zone, so I think OK, bring it on, but I refuse to initiate it.

Green light. He revs something crazy into the launch, and I get the message. A split second later than he (after all, I was waiting for his intentions to be made clear), so he gets a nice little jump. Within maybe 50 yrds I pull even with him in 1st, then go into 2nd, wheupon I tear him apart (maybe 2 1/2 car lengths). I go to nearly redline in 2nd, and reach for 3rd, now doing something like 50 mph, and something terrifying and magical happens. I go into 3rd, now maybe 3 cars on him, and the power starts to cut, and a totally {edited out} up smell comes into the cabin.

Well, he pulls off (makes the cowardly quick left to avoid my face to face at the next light), and I'm thinking: holy {edited out}, I ruined the engine by over-reving. Then it all makes sense, the smell was burnt rubber (not engine), and the power cut is from the fact that I spun the wheels going into 3rd, and the ASC kicked in.

HA! What a relief. I guess i wont be racing anytime soon (not too smart to haul that kinda {edited out} on public streets), and if I do, I will turn of the ASC!

Anyway, that mitsubishi is sloooooow. Anyone else waste one?[I]

please watch the language in the main forums... :cop:

ok, I'll edit

thank you. :)


you can just add asterisks here and there, like f*** or sh**, we get the idea... or expand your vocabulary... ;) :D

Good kill. Was the VR4 running on four cylinders or is your car blown (I don't know all the mods you list)? :dunno Stock it should have handed you your {edited} from a stop.

Curt- I dont know what his set up was, but perhaps he sucked as a driver - or who knows. I have some mods, but not blown. Are these fast then? I wouldn't have guessed from that run....

Yes they are fast. They are also heavy, but the power compensates. 0-60 and quarter times fromsource (http://www.pr.streetracing.org/whats_new.html#Mitsubishi)
1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.3 13.8
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 4.8 13.6

They can be a bit hard to launch, but not that hard. Maybe he just took off quick then let off not knowing you were coming. If he let off it would be difficult for him to recover quickly. I'm a little defensive of these cars. :D

chances are it wasnt a vr4 being it was somewhat of a rare car. even a decent modded m3 vert wouldnt have stood a chance against a stock vr4. but congrats on the kill of a sl

congrats on the kill

lol, they're definitely not slow haha

probably wasnt a vr-4. 94-99 vr-4's run mid 13's stock. average 1/4 mile is 13.55. i think car and driver tested it out at 13.25 or something like that (may have been someone else that tested it at that time, cant remember off the top of my head) off the line, he woulda hauled ass because of the AWD, unless he bogged the launch (rpm's drop below 2500, causing MAJOR turbo lag). if it was a vr-4, he probably didnt launch it correctly. either way, nice kill :)

most likely is was a FWD N/A model. there's quite a bit more of those running around :)

the N/A's run ~ mid 14's *i think*

are you anywhere near san jose by any chance? (i dont know geography at all)

cuz a friend of mine there has a semi-riced out red 3000gt SL. big spoiler (99vr-4 spoiler) cf hood, etc...

definately not a vr-4

Nice kill, vr-4's are not slow though. Anyone else see that video of a black 3000GT beating a 996T 3 times and wining $500?:biglaughb :biglaughb

3 times... hahaha that sucks for the porsce!

nice kill, and go easy on third... heh... damn DSC

Originally posted by girly girl


the N/A's run ~ mid 14's *i think*

that can't be right - I destroyed my friend's '97 SL from a light to over 100 mph when my car was 3 people heavy with my 2.5L and auto trans.

he has an autothority chip and lighter wheels. I had intake, exhaust and a crank UDP along with 500lbs more from fat ass passengers and I'm no light weight myself!

anyways, the VR-4 is a great car, the SL is a DOG.

-Ron

Originally posted by E36_Savage
definately not a vr-4

true that,
car for car, the vr-4 (any of the years) would PWN an e36 m3 (w/o forced induction)

just ask "1QWKBMW" or "1fastm3" or whatever his name is,
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=778478#post778478
and his car is lighter than the vert.

he was at the runs, and my boy's "1 stock vr-4" ate him alive.

the 1qwkbmw or whatever even made his gf get out of the car...to suffer yet another scene of PWNAGE!

it wasn't even close enough to use "Car lengths".


from a roll, it's kept up with my boy's e39 m5...until the m5 hit 150 or so, the vr-4 edged it's way out.

in a 97 vr-4 ( i think 97 or 98 was the lightest, even though it's heavy).


if you wanna re-run a real vr-4 (stock of course), just check out the vr-4 forums. =)

my boy sold the car for a 2003 mustang gt and an apartment


the car you probably beat is the 3000gt SL, FF layout, and probably as fast as an integra ls (not gs-r, not type-r) I twanna say 150 or 160hp and maybe about the same torque

congrats though!
you gotta show those 3000gt SL's what up!

whenever i see a camry or civic (non vtec of course) with anything resembling an exhaust or aftermarket lights, i usually "fake swerve" into them and pull them to 140mph :laugh

Originally posted by comptechgsr
the car you probably beat is the 3000gt SL, FF layout, and probably as fast as an integra ls (not gs-r, not type-r) I twanna say 150 or 160hp and maybe about the same torque

Most NA 3000GTs have the 222hp engine and are much lighter than the VR4. They aren't slow either, but with his mods the M3 vert would have an edge. I've never driven the 161hp variant, but it would likely be in serious trouble.

The SL is not a dog (as someone alleged) unless it has the auto. That page I linked with 0-60 and quarter times lists speeds for an SL that almost certainly is an auto. I'd wager I'd take your average E36 M3 driver to school with a 3000GT SL. :devillook

Z Couper, the Dog that I was reffering to was in fact an auto. you won't find me knocking on VR-4's, my brother has a '97 and I like the car, pretty stable at 145mph....not that I would know anything about that. :devillook:

ok, boys. Im thinking the car i ran with was not blown - or at least I didn't hear any whine, and I think I would have, seeing as how I had the top down..... This would make a lot more sense, wouldn't it. I remember seeing the 3000GT badge, but I dont distinctly recall the "VR4" part of it - nor did i see "turbo", but to be honest with you, i wasn't paying that close attention, nor am i familiar with all the iterations of that car.

one thing for sure, if I see a full-blown 3000GT VR4, I'll pass on taking a whopping from a dead start....

I don't know, if you launch like Dr. Dave and the VR4 driver isn't very good it could be interesting. Cold tires on the street would put you at a great disadvantage. Reviewing your mods I'd guess your car is as quick as a stock non-vert.

I'd race a VR4 from a stop. I wouldn't be surprized to have my {edited} handed to me though. :evil2

Originally posted by Z Couper
I don't know, if you launch like Dr. Dave and the VR4 driver isn't very good it could be interesting. Cold tires on the street would put you at a great disadvantage. Reviewing your mods I'd guess your car is as quick as a stock non-vert.

I'd race a VR4 from a stop. I wouldn't be surprized to have my {edited} handed to me though. :evil2

well, i'll be down in florida in June. wanna race? :D

Originally posted by agu845
ok, boys. Im thinking the car i ran with was not blown - or at least I didn't hear any whine, and I think I would have, seeing as how I had the top down..... This would make a lot more sense, wouldn't it. I remember seeing the 3000GT badge, but I dont distinctly recall the "VR4" part of it - nor did i see "turbo", but to be honest with you, i wasn't paying that close attention, nor am i familiar with all the iterations of that car.

one thing for sure, if I see a full-blown 3000GT VR4, I'll pass on taking a whopping from a dead start....

yea, if you didn't her a WHOOOOOSH, or PSSSHHHH when he shifted, then it wasn't a vr-4. :)

like z couper said, if you really launch your car, and the vr-4 (assuming its stock) completely boggs on the launch, and has a so-so driver, than you very well may win.

or, if you take it from a roll, you'll most likely win, because the vr-4 loses the AWD advantage.

Originally posted by girly girl
well, i'll be down in florida in June. wanna race? :D

Is that invitation for anybody :evil2 ?

Originally posted by girly girl
well, i'll be down in florida in June. wanna race? :D
:buttrock

Hi, Kevin. I have those 14803s. The duct tape didn't quite make it all the way. Looking for a shop to do the install.

she's too chicken to race us in her own town so she's gotta run off and race the stock guys down in Florida. :D

-Ron

come on ron, i'll race you!! :stickoutt hahah

no one around here ever tries to race me :( it's very depressing.

they see a nice flashy car, come FLYING up behind me, see its a girl, then just fall back :(

although, i did put a ricer in his place the other night with my roomate and some guy she knows in my car. they couldnt stop laughing. this one moron wouldnt give it up. so, for shits and giggles i flew past him and threw my hazards on. my roomate and her friend couldnt stop laughing their asses off. haha and the guy looked pissed :stickoutt lol

but yea, thats my only race in the last.... well.... a really long time haha

curt, you launch like dr dave.... :D

show up to the next meet when I'm in town, I should have my summer tires back on by then. If I can outrun my brother's car, then you haven't got a chance. :evil2

anyways, enough smack talk - let's put a friendly wager on this. :buttrock

when will you be back in town again?

a friendly little wager sounds good ;)

you call the bet - I don't know what your limits are. :)

I should be in town before the 15th but as anything else with working in Africa, nothing is set in stone.

regardless, I'm in the US every few months so you're bound to see me a few times this year.

do you know how your car fares(sp?) against an E46 M3?

-Ron

is this going down in nj? anyone need a driver....? :evil2

VR4s are FUN to drive, very quick cars too.
Had 6 speed Stealth RT/TT before.
Wanted to buy a BMW and trade in RT.
Test drove a M3 and 325i.
Got cheaper 325i, because coming from Stealth RT/TT, didn't feel too much difference between M3 and 325i in performance by first impression.

But then, maybe there was a big difference and I was just being cheap...? :D

Originally posted by SilverStreak
is this going down in nj? anyone need a driver....? :evil2


yeah it's gonna be in Jersey and if I see Dave in the driver's seat of Emily's car, I'm bringing down Mr. TNT.

you don't want to mess with the TNT. :devillook

actually, i'd drive for you, ron... :D

Originally posted by themadhatter

do you know how your car fares(sp?) against an E46 M3?

-Ron

My car is slow :devillook

Especially when 750s and SRT-4s are keeping up with you... ;)

Originally posted by themadhatter
yeah it's gonna be in Jersey and if I see Dave in the driver's seat of Emily's car, I'm bringing down Mr. TNT.

you don't want to mess with the TNT. :devillook

geeze, by now i'd think you'd at LEAST know how to spell my name right :rolleyes: haha

why would i have dave drive my car? i'm quite capable of driving it myself thank you very much. lol

although, since i never really launch my car... i should probably start practicing that hahah

i dunno how my car fares (yes, you spelled it right) against E46 M3's. :dunno i think they're a bit faster than a stock second gen vr-4.

i've never really raced my car from a stop, or taken it to a track, so i have no idea how well i'd do. i guess now's as good a time as any to find out :D haha let me know when you're around and wanna do this, i'm all for it :)

and as for the wages... i'm SURE i can come up with SOMETHING good hahahah :devillook

Originally posted by SilverStreak
actually, i'd drive for you, ron... :D

I take it you're feeling better buddy? :)

you know we were supposed to have a sort of drag meet one day. perhaps if the weather permits, we can make it an official BFC drag meet at E-town or somewhere.

I would really like to see what you could pull with my in the 1320'.

-Ron

Originally posted by Ron17
Especially when 750s and SRT-4s are keeping up with you... ;)

:biglaughb

Originally posted by girly girl
geeze, by now i'd think you'd at LEAST know how to spell my name right :rolleyes: haha

why would i have dave drive my car? i'm quite capable of driving it myself thank you very much. lol

although, since i never really launch my car... i should probably start practicing that hahah

i dunno how my car fares (yes, you spelled it right) against E46 M3's. :dunno i think they're a bit faster than a stock second gen vr-4.

i've never really raced my car from a stop, or taken it to a track, so i have no idea how well i'd do. i guess now's as good a time as any to find out :D haha let me know when you're around and wanna do this, i'm all for it :)

and as for the wages... i'm SURE i can come up with SOMETHING good hahahah :devillook

Sorry about the name Emilie, I didn't know if it was Y or IE so I was actually alternating till you called me out on it. :stickoutt

at the last meet I Al and I swapped cars back to back and yes the new M3 is fantastic but we both agreed that my car oddly felt allot quicker - maybe it's just the power delivery? :dunno I've yet to find an E46 M3 who'll play on the road since most of the drivers are either too uptight or yapping on the phone.

as for launching the car, you know I've never ever dumped my clutch? I don't know why but I find no point in liquifying my tires - something you don't have to worry about. :)

I'll shoot you a pm or something when I'm gonna be local. let me know when you've thought of a good wager, this will be fun. ;)

-Ron

the post-op cast should be off next week... :)

VR4 vs the E46 M3 or ///M Roadster would likely be a driver's race. Yeah, I'm afraid to get into the clutch too much too :evil2 .

Emelie, when and where will you be in FL? We could probably find a dragstrip nearby. Safety when racing is important and dragstrips offer a safe and fair place to play.

Back on topic :D

Manual SL's can't be that fast :az: EVERY SINLGE SL that I have raced, has gotten pwn3d. ;)

Do we need better drivers down here in SD? :95

i know a kid with an E46 M3 who might want to play :) lol he's in nj... on the board... dave-something or other, i think he's still in time out. anyway, i'll go up against him one of these days and let you know how it goes :)

I know Dave, tell him I said hello. :)

why don't you fun against Al? heck that last meet him and I were working on setting up our own race but I just won't run on snow tires.

i'll run against whoever. i dont care :D lol as long as its not a honda civic or an integra. those are the only cars i've ever raced.... oh and my friends cobra, but that didnt go so well.... i didnt really know how to drive my car yet lol

Originally posted by slickav
Back on topic :D

Manual SL's can't be that fast :az: EVERY SINLGE SL that I have raced, has gotten pwn3d. ;)

Do we need better drivers down here in SD? :95
I never took mine to a drag strip or really raced too much. No one seemed to want to play with the Stealth R/T. Seemed all I ever got were attempted clingons at high speed highway driving. Those were easily dealt with by extremely high speed highway driving. Maybe I was always just driving too fast and not really looking for a race. First gear in the car takes you to about 44 mph and is strictly traction limited. Flooring it from a roll will cause the front to drift sideways. Power shifting into second causes significant wheel spin followed by a hard pull up to 70 mph. Third isn't much taller getting you to the low 90's. Mine had 222 hp at 5600 rpm and about the same in torque around mid 3000s I think (from memory). Curbing in at 3,160 pounds. Top speed 150 mph at 5,900 rpm.

A 328 would have a slight advantage at the line due to RWD.

Originally posted by slickav
Back on topic :D

Manual SL's can't be that fast :az: EVERY SINLGE SL that I have raced, has gotten pwn3d. ;)

Do we need better drivers down here in SD? :95

haha yea, i'd say so. lol :stickoutt they arent THAT fast, but they aren't that slow either. the drivers probably just didnt know what they were doing :dunno

since we are on the topic of the 3KGT.. i was wondering if anyone can tell me what is it about the VR series that gives them there power ? a few months back, there was a RED VR6 that raced one of the new EVO's at a local Street Race Meet (in fullerton, orange) well the guy popped open hood and everything to show the car was running STOCK!! i know the 3kGT are fast, but just didnt think they were fast enough especially to kill the EVO as bad as it did.. all headed up to the streets, they wagered 60$ the driver of the VR6 was pretty hefty too i say about 300lbs extra weight was added on top of the cars stock weight.. So i really didnt think he had a chance agasint the EVO.. well first run took off, and the evo, was ahead by about .5-1 CL, but all of a sudden the VR6 just passed by him with ease :buttrock damn.. taht was quick.. so they did a 2nd run, this time it was even more remarkable the VR6 was even toying around wit the EVO.. LOL :astromile :laugh he was using giving him a head start and using his brakes each time he was catching up to him, and at the last minute he just flew passed by him again !! damn that was just one of the best races i have seen, besides the sentra vs. viper race :) ..

so anyone care to explain to me how the engine is setup to gain that much power ? wat does the VR stand for ? thanks

wat does the VR stand for ? thanks
:az: Don't go asking questions for which I don't have an answer. :complain

Isn't the VR6 a VW? Did you mean the 3000GT VR4.

Basically, Twin Turbos give the VR4 its extra punch and all wheel drive make it quick off the line.

Isn't a stock VR4 320hp? In which case, would an E46 M3 even have that much trouble against it being that it has 333 NA hp? I could see the VR4 having an advantage off the line but it seems to me the M3 would have the overall edge.

yes, a vr6 is a VW. the VR-4 has a different engine, and is also turbo'd. 94-99 VR-4's had 320hp, where-as a 91-93 vr-4 had 300hp. an E46 M3 is slightly faster in the 1/4 mile if i'm remembering correctly.

also, i did a quick check on the 3000GT board, and a stock second gen (94-98) SL should run high 14 to mid 15 seconds in the 1/4 mile

good job

so there isnt no VR6 for a 3000GT ? hmm.. i swear on my grave, the badge on the back of the 3KGT said VR6 .. hmm.. well i guess i am wrong then, thanks for the clerifying.

Emelie, do you know what the VR stands for?

Virtual Reality

Viscus Realtime

Coupe E36 - if the car looked like the one in my sig, than no, it didnt say VR6, unless for some odd reason, he put a VR6 badge on his car. it would have said VR-4

Very Ricey

;)

:lol:

AWD - Viscous center with LSD Rear
All wheel Steering
6spd Getrag
Twin Turbo
Twin Intercoolers
knight rider climate control
very comfortable front seats
pretty good factory brakes

pretty good setup for a factory spec car.

Originally posted by Ron17
Very Ricey

I certainly wasn't going to be the one to say it.:stickoutt

Originally posted by themadhatter
AWD - Viscous center with LSD Rear
All wheel Steering
6spd Getrag
Twin Turbo
Twin Intercoolers
knight rider climate control
very comfortable front seats
pretty good factory brakes

pretty good setup for a factory spec car.

you forgot active aero


and on the earlier models:
active exhaust
active suspension



it's got ALLLL the goodies. except heated seats... :stickoutt

Damn.. that is a clean stock setup.. anyone know if mitsu. is going to bring out a newer model of it, in the near future ? my mom says, she likes them and wants to get one but all the used ones she looked at all has lots of mileage already.. so if mitsu. is going to come out with a newer model, would be great :)

if mitsu DID come out with a new 3000GT, they'd butcher it. and in all honesty, i really hope they don't come out with it again. and i think their financial situation wont allow them to even consider it, at least anytime in the near future.

if you search the 3000GT/Stealth International board (www.3si.org) there are low mileage vr-4s for sale every so often. my dad just bought a 91 Stealth TT (same thing as a vr-4) in mint condition with 55k miles on it for $7500. you just have to keep your eyes open for them :)

Originally posted by girly girl
you forgot active aero


and on the earlier models:
active exhaust
active suspension



it's got ALLLL the goodies. except heated seats... :stickoutt

the active exhuast and active suspension are generally worthless from a performance point of view. I have a digressive setup in my car, I get the best of both worlds. ;)

oh yeah the active aero (that you forgot :stickoutt) is a nice touch that usually quits after awhile. mitsu got rid of those three items in the '97+ models and I think they were on the right track.

oh yeah, my favorite add from mitsu about that car went something like this:

"No Automatic transmission available, that would be like flying a jet fighter on autopilot."

-Ron

:lol: i like that quote :) it's so true.

i have either 91 or 92,000 miles on my car, and my active aero works fine. i just leave it off most of the time. only turn it on every now and again to either wave people off my ass, or when i'm going 100+ mph. :angel .... not that i ever go that fast.... :confused:

they may be worthless for suspension, but they're cool as fuck :stickoutt hahah

true, the biggest problem with ANY automaker is that they generally bend their original intentions to suit the masses rather then the true enthusiast. A great example of this is the second generation E36 M3 from Europe and America - one produced 321hp (no turbos or gimmicks :D) and the other produced 240hp.
one has a softer suspension (US) and the other has a 6spd and a beefier drive train (euro). They even changed tires sizes (US) cause they thought that US drivers didn't know what they were doing.

-Ron

Originally posted by themadhatter
the active exhuast and active suspension are generally worthless from a performance point of view.

The 1977 Ron was equipped with an "active exhaust" last night. I really think it's the protein powder I've been taking.

Sorry, roommates.

:az:

they do that with a LOT of cars. the US gets the watered down version. they did that with the 3000gt/GTO. there are a few features the GTO had, that the vr-4 didnt. and the GTO, they ALL AWD, where-as the SL and base here are fwd (if i'm remembering correctly) :( it sucks

Originally posted by themadhatter
true, the biggest problem with ANY automaker is that they generally bend their original intentions to suit the masses rather then the true enthusiast.
-Ron
In the 90's I wondered about the Eclipse and the 3000GT. What if they mated?



Connan O'Brian is jealous that Mitsubishi stole his doctored photo!
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/YearGlance/y436951a.jpg

Who needs enthusiasts?

Originally posted by Ron17
The 1977 Ron was equipped with an "active exhaust" last night. I really think it's the protein powder I've been taking.

Sorry, roommates.

:az:

no roomates over here. :devillook

Originally posted by Ron17
The 1977 Ron was equipped with an "active exhaust" last night. I really think it's the protein powder I've been taking.

Sorry, roommates.

:az:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/images/smilies/fart2.gif

:lol: :lol:

Originally posted by girly girl
come on ron, i'll race you!! :stickoutt hahah

no one around here ever tries to race me :( it's very depressing.

they see a nice flashy car, come FLYING up behind me, see its a girl, then just fall back :(

although, i did put a ricer in his place the other night with my roomate and some guy she knows in my car. they couldnt stop laughing. this one moron wouldnt give it up. so, for shits and giggles i flew past him and threw my hazards on. my roomate and her friend couldnt stop laughing their asses off. haha and the guy looked pissed :stickoutt lol

but yea, thats my only race in the last.... well.... a really long time haha

I don't have a Bimmer, but i'll race you. :devillook

P.S...... I think VR4's are definately one of the best pacific muscle cars made to date.

T/A = Transam? now that would be a challange. :D

well, the ATL is going to be one of my stops on my way to FL in june, so... if you wanna set somethin up... ;)


maybe i can convince a friend of mine to let me race his 2001(?) 996 Turbo also :redspot

haha

Originally posted by girly girl
well, the ATL is going to be one of my stops on my way to FL in june, so... if you wanna set somethin up... ;)

That would be cool. Depending on when you are coming thru, perhaps we could set up a meet or at least an impromptu get-together, so you could meet some of the other ATL members. Otherwise, I'm game to meet up, at the very least.

Just PM me as the date gets closer... or come into GA Regional and post.

Plus, we can take it out on the streets and see just what VR stands for. ;)

(I have a feeling I might get humbled... :az: )

Ron - you just want to meet her because she is a girl:evil2:

June? Hmm... I should be on a new fresh set of tires by then :evil2

Originally posted by WannaM
Ron - you just want to meet her because she is a girl:evil2:

Can ya blame me!?!? ;) j/k

I've offered to meet other people coming thru ATL, as well. I just think it's cool to be able to put a face and a real-live personality with usernames from here.

:dunno

I'd say the same if you were coming thru. Well... maybe not YOU. ;)

Originally posted by Ron17
Can ya blame me!?!? ;) j/k

I've offered to meet other people coming thru ATL, as well. I just think it's cool to be able to put a face and a real-live personality with usernames from here.

:dunno

I'd say the same if you were coming thru. Well... maybe not YOU. ;)

:D

I know, it'd be cool to have a huge BF.c gathering, well maybe some people should be excluded.

Originally posted by girly girl
why would i have dave drive my car? i'm quite capable of driving it myself thank you very much.


you sure on that? I seem to recall a time in CT...when I pulled through 1st on you from the launch....in the buick...twice.:p Maybe yous hould have launched:p

the SL's aren't dogs...mine stock trapped at 96mph, and that wasn't that great of a run.

Matt

Fast and Furious 2 had an SL racing a few cars in the begining. ;)

you mean that pre-movie bit? that was a stealth base with a riced out body kit. lol the guys a memeber on 3si.org.

matt - when did i race you from a stop in the buick in CT? i dont remember that :dunno

he was in a buick racing you? perhaps it was one of those " I was racing her but she didn't know " deals? :D

you know when that fool at the light launches his car without letting you know he wanted to race and then you have to go and piss all over him (harder for a girl ;)) as you reel him in and tear him down. :evil2

-Ron

Originally posted by themadhatter
you know when that fool at the light launches his car without letting you know he wanted to race and then you have to go and piss all over him (harder for a girl ;)) as you reel him in and tear him down. :evil2

-Ron

Yeah... I hate it when that happens. I have to beat down anybody that does that. As I'm flyin' by, I have to give them that WTF were you thinking look :confused:

:lol: lol

yea, well, i just found out now that i was racing him. this happened... ohh..... 6 months ago? hahahah

wait, who am i driving for, again?? :D

i think you're drivin for ron :stickoutt

Dr. Dave,

What happened to your Z3 3.0?

it blew up

Originally posted by girly girl
i think you're drivin for ron :stickoutt

What?!?!

Absolutely not! I can drive my own races, thankyouverymuch.

ron = madhatter... :D

...and ps- if you're such a great driver, why are you still in the 14's?? ;)

Originally posted by SilverStreak
...and ps- if you're such a great driver, why are you still in the 14's?? ;)

Never said I was a great driver, but only that I handle my own races.

Besides, what's your Z3 running these days? DNFs? ;)

:lol: in nascar=speak.... it's 'behind the wall' for now.... :D

I'm just playin'. I was sorry to hear that you're having car troubles, but perhaps it's a built-in excuse to head in another direction.

:devillook

actually, the z3 will go back to oem for a little while, to save some moeny for now, only to modded again sometime soon. and i'll be adding another bmw to the garage for business reasons with my recent schedule and contracts with new clients, etc. reverting the z3 to weekend duty...

Ooooo... whatcha gonna get for the business car?

E39 M5? 540i 6-speed? 750iL with 20" Spinnaz!?!?!?!

:alright

budget is limited if keeping the z3, need a 4 door, needs to be new and on a lease for tax deductions, etc, so i'm actually leaning towards a new 330i with the performance package...

Those who can, M3; those who can't, 330i PP.

Or something like that.

i know i'm a little late, but fwiw when I took our old 850 Turbo to the track, i ran a 15.599@90.4 against a 3000GT SL who ran a 15.45@~92ish.

the volvo was stock with 150k on the odometer (heh) and the 3000GT had catback and intake.

"SL? Oh well."

Dave, I'd actually like to see what you can do with my car at the strip.

as for the drag race, I'll take Emilie on myself but she's gotta come up with that bet first. :D

Originally posted by themadhatter
Dave, I'd actually like to see what you can do with my car at the strip.

as for the drag race, I'll take Emilie on myself but she's gotta come up with that bet first. :D

dont you worry, i'll come up with something ;)



"3000GT SLow" :D

SL doesn't stand for SLow....it stands for Super Lightning-speed. The hyphen in the word makes it SL..

Matt

Originally posted by $150FC
i know i'm a little late, but fwiw when I took our old 850 Turbo to the track, i ran a 15.599@90.4 against a 3000GT SL who ran a 15.45@~92ish.

the volvo was stock with 150k on the odometer (heh) and the 3000GT had catback and intake.

"SL? Oh well."
Nice run in the Volvo. High 14's low 15's for a good run in an SL. Someone running mid 15's isn't a shock. The intake doesn't add much and catback would be pointless as far as performance.

Originally posted by girly girl
well, i'll be down in florida in June. wanna race? :D

got pic of your....self?:D

Originally posted by shmoo
got pic of your....self?:D

....run a search.

we're doing a damn meet this summer, at atco, e-town, somewhere, damnit!

a-mac, it's gotta be a lease to work with my business, etc... so it's gotta be new, and affordable...

it will be a fun event, I will do my best to be in town for a good amount of time so I can get the car setup right. I'd like to see what my numbers are as it currently stands before I add about 8.5psi. :D

Originally posted by Z Couper
Nice run in the Volvo. High 14's low 15's for a good run in an SL. Someone running mid 15's isn't a shock. The intake doesn't add much and catback would be pointless as far as performance.

Thanks. He was surprised (in-car video, "Bullshit he runs a 16..." :D)

Really? High 14s? That surprises me, I've never seen or heard of any SLs being that quick.

And, yeah, the intake and catback probably didn't do much, but he made sure I knew about them. Fat load of good it did.

That's what Girly Girl says anyway. If my Stealth wasn't such a turd now, I'd take it to the strip and see what it would do.

Well, then I'm thinking 330i Sedan. The new 5 looks like my colon after a night of bad Mexican food and too much tequila.

330i PP is a great car, it isn't just a 330i with a sports package.

Originally posted by themadhatter
330i PP is a great car, it isn't just a 330i with a sports package.

Oh, I know. I guess for Dave's purposes, though, he probably wouldn't want the PP. I would guess it's probably a little louder, which, for a business car, just wouldn't be appropriate.

actually you'd be surprised, heck, even the E46 M3 is very quiet and cushy compared to an E36.

330i ZHP in Imola Red, even... :eek: I'll update my sig later, after I get caught up on my Mod duties today...

Originally posted by SilverStreak
330i ZHP in Imola Red, even... :eek: I'll update my sig later, after I get caught up on my Mod duties today...

:buttrock NICE!!!

A friend of mine has one of those, same color. he brought it up to bimmerfest east '03, beautiful car. :)

-Ron

Originally posted by themadhatter
actually you'd be surprised, heck, even the E46 M3 is very quiet and cushy compared to an E36.

Yeah... until the tach swings around to 8000rpm :buttrock :evil2

Originally posted by themadhatter
:buttrick NICE!!!

What exactly is a butt trick? :confused:

;)

BTW, Dave, nice purchase! Can't wait to see some pics.

Thanks Ron and Ron and.... ok... :D

I have some pics up in E46 3 series and Z3. My sales guy took some at the dealer with his digital camera and emailed them to me...

it's got nothing to do with the cheerio, it's just a typo.

My fave of the pics....

That's a nice-looking car. The only thing is, I'm not really feelin' those rims. Hmmm...

How about some M5 rims? Yummy!

Ron, you know me, those are the oem-street rims... I'm already looking into some 16's or 17's for the drag radials, man... ;)

I don't have any pics of the front end so you can see the fascia or anything.... :az:

Here's C&D's article on it, though....

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=6978&page_number=1

to anyone in here who has actually driven a 3000gt sl......................do they seem to be a pretty quick car or are they pigs. I was looking into getting one if i couldnt afford the VR-4 and wanted to know if it would be worth my while.

dinan535i, SLs are not pigs. I owned (ok still own) a Stealth R/T, the SLs evil twin if you didn't already know. Fast and much lighter than the TT AWD version. Just make sure to get the DOHC engine, that would be all SLs and even older base models. The suspension is a little soft, and the brakes aren't great. I never upgraded the brakes or suspension in any way. I'd bet a good set of pads would make a world of difference. The suspension isn't too bad, but a little stiffer would make the high speed turns feel a little better. I think some SLs have adjustable suspension.

I've driven the SLs too, same thing as the R/T. They are a little heavier, the SL runs dual exhaust all the way back and had a few extra toys that add a little weight.

thanks for the info Z, I am looking foward to hopefully test driving one soon.

Originally posted by skillton
Nice kill, vr-4's are not slow though. Anyone else see that video of a black 3000GT beating a 996T 3 times and wining $500?:biglaughb :biglaughb


Yeah, I saw that video and it made me cringe. if there was a halfway decent driver in the porsche it woulda left the vr4. I am assuming that the vr4 in the video must have been extremely modified. My buddy has a stock vr-4 he bought with 20k miles. Outta the box those things are pretty impressive.

dinan535i - the SL's are pretty quick. quicker than i'd assumed, nothing great though. if you're interested in getting a vr-4, check over on www.3si.org . there's a for sale section, and a lotta vr-4s are usually in there, and anything you will ever need to know about the cars you can find over there also. and you can find a first gen (91-93) vr-4's for fairly cheap now

It is great to see a forum that isn't bagging onthe vr4's. They are not the most reliable car however they can do a lot of damage in a drag race. I have owned a 95 and 95 m3. Unfortunatley i crashed one of them and the other got hit and totalled by someone else. I now have my VR4. With under 1grand in mods u can make them run low 12s and trap around 105-110. I do believe though stock for stock the M3 could have beaten the VR4. As for the video witht he porsche, the VR4 had upgraded turbos.

It is great to see a forum that isn't bagging onthe vr4's. They are not the most reliable car however they can do a lot of damage in a drag race. I have owned a 95 and 95 m3. Unfortunatley i crashed one of them and the other got hit and totalled by someone else. I now have my VR4. With under 1grand in mods u can make them run low 12s and trap around 105-110. I do believe though stock for stock the M3 could have beaten the VR4. As for the video witht he porsche, the VR4 had upgraded turbos.

Dayuuuum dude, 1.5 year bump.

I remember you from 3si, you had the Pearl Yellow 95 VR4 with all the HKS products right? I used to own a 94 RT NA then a pearl yellow 94 TT