has anyone ever started a GB on RaceLogic Traction control. It's something i've had on my to do list but for $1100 its had to wait. I want it for a couple reasons. One is the weather. THe weather here has been pretty brutal and i'd rather have a non restrictive TCS/skid system then the LSD. Sometimes its fun but sometimes its annoying controlling that free floating rear end. I always thought I had ASC until I realized i was mixing it up with the limited slip differential. Anyway, has there ever been a GB on this? Any interest. I"ll e-mail them about it and see if we can get a good price.

if you are OBDII it wont work... sorry to bust your nutz....

Read my reply to your post in the E36 section.

I might possibly be interested....but I'm not sure if I should dump my money into my upcoming Porsche 993 Widebody track car instead.....

Wes

im interested

Im interested!

whats the status of this?

i'm waiting for a reply from the company.. haven't heard anything yet. i'll post when they get back to me.

there is a groub buy goign on through matrix engineering right now (one of race logics us dealers). here are the details.



Like the last GB, ANY vehicle is welcome to join the GB; Supra, RX-7, NSX, Camaro/Corvette, Mustang, BMW M3, Honda, etc….





Here is the pricing;



Retail

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ ABS; (Max 12cyl)
995
RLTC6A

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ (Wheel Speed)WSS; (Max 12cyl)
995
RLTC6AW

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & ABS; (4/6cyl)
1150
RLTC6AL

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & WSS; (4/6cyl)
1150
RLTC6ALW

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & ABS; (8cyl)
1300
RLTC8AL

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & WSS; (8cyl)
1300
RLTC8ALW

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ LC, Data Logging & ABS; (4/6/8cyl)
1595
RLTC6ALD; RLTC8ALD

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ LC, Data Logging & WSS; (4/6/8cyl)
1595
RLTC6ALDW; RLTC8ALDW

Set of 4 Wheel Speed Sensors
505
TCWSS

MSD/Diesel/Ignition Interface
320
TCII/MSD

Full Throttle Shift
175
TCCLUSHIFT






Discounted 20%

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ ABS; (Max 12cyl)
796
RLTC6A

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ (Wheel Speed)WSS; (Max 12cyl)
796
RLTC6AW

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & ABS; (4/6cyl)
920
RLTC6AL

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & WSS; (4/6cyl)
920
RLTC6ALW

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & ABS; (8cyl)
1040
RLTC8AL

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & WSS; (8cyl)
1040
RLTC8ALW

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ LC, Data Logging & ABS; (4/6/8cyl)
1276
RLTC6ALD; RLTC8ALD

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ LC, Data Logging & WSS; (4/6/8cyl)
1276
RLTC6ALDW; RLTC8ALDW

Set of 4 Wheel Speed Sensors
404
TCWSS

MSD/Diesel/Ignition Interface
256
TCII/MSD

Full Throttle Shift
140
TCCLUSHIFT




Discounted 25%

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ ABS; (Max 12cyl)
746.25
RLTC6A

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ (Wheel Speed)WSS; (Max 12cyl)
746.25
RLTC6AW

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & ABS; (4/6cyl)
862.50
RLTC6AL

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & WSS; (4/6cyl)
862.50
RLTC6ALW

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & ABS; (8cyl)
975
RLTC8AL

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ Launch Control & WSS; (8cyl)
975
RLTC8ALW

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ LC, Data Logging & ABS; (4/6/8cyl)
1196.25
RLTC6ALD; RLTC8ALD

Racelogic Adjustable TC w/ LC, Data Logging & WSS; (4/6/8cyl)
1196.25
RLTC6ALDW; RLTC8ALDW

Set of 4 Wheel Speed Sensors
378.75
TCWSS

MSD/Diesel/Ignition Interface
240
TCII/MSD

Full Throttle Shift
131.25
TCCLUSHIFT






Here are the details;





1. The GB will end on Friday, December 19th at 6pm PST.

2. Systems will be on a first come, first serve basis (meaning, if you want the first one, get your info and money in first).

3. All systems will be shipped to GB participants from our facility in Portland, OR, via UPS(tracking numbers will be provided). If you’re in Hawaii or Canada, we can accommodate your needs(USPS for example).

4. Please email racelogic@matrixengineering.cc with your;

a. Name
b. Year/make/model of car and/or model of engine
c. Billing address
d. Shipping address
e. Phone number
f. Billing info---Visa, MC, Discover(cc # to be taken later)
g. System you are interested in
h. How you want it shipped(Ground, 3day, 2day, next day)

I will then call you for your credit card number.



5. 100% of your total order(including shipping) will be taken up front. Again, remember that it is a first come, first serve basis, so if you want to be one of the first to receive a system, get your money in ASAP.





A few interested parties are working on posting notices on the net---CZ28.com, Supraforums.com.



If needed, here are the two URLs for the first Racelogic GB;

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115506&highlight=Racelogic



http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=174408&perpage=25&pagenumber=1



As always, if there are any questions, please don’t hesitate to ask.





Best regards,



Jeremy Williams

Matrix Engineering Inc.

4060 SW Macadam Ave.

Portland, OR 97239

503.443.1141 Tech

503.443.1142 Fax

888.249.0013 Orders

jeremy@matrixengineering.cc

www.matrixengineering.cc

And here's the regular price from a listed Racelogic US distributor, and a thread from the FI forum where the distributor chimes in:

http://www.ooparts-international.com/id24.htm

Regular Prices / On Sale
5-way adjustable unit $ 860 / $750
Adjustable/Launch Control $1010 / $880
Adjustable/Full Throttle Shift $1030 / $900
Adjustable/Launch Control/Full Throttle Shift $ 1150 / $1020


http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=1557600#post1557600

link doesnt work.

i e-mailed the company who started that group buy. 20+ people you get 20% off and 40+ people get 25% off. Ends tomorrow. I think i'm goin to get in on this. 20% is a good deal for me.

i think so too, as well as my bro. thats 3 people.

Hmm, the pricing page seems to have been pulled.

any word on if it works with OBD II?

-Jon

bump

from what everyone says it will not work with obd2

If you do a search you will find that Kevlar tested with OBDII and it doesn't work. However, you should contact NickG about this (do a username search).

Wes

14 deffinates so far, need 6 more.

Has anyone inquired to Karl at AA as to why the Racelogic misbehaves on OBDII cars? Does the CEL come on too much or ??

We have Racelogic on a customer's OBDII VW GTi('02 w/ our turbo kit) and it has no issues with compatability. The CEL might flash, but it does not cause the car to go into limp mode.

The following thread will explain the problem with OBDII M3's....

http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20310

Wes

Thx Wes. :)


There are 20 people now involved in the GB so it is on for sure. The GB ends tonight at 6pm PST.

Any last minute takers should email me at jeremy@matrixengineering.cc

Happy new year all.
Jeremy

you guys should jump on this! i already put my order in.

Actually, Racelogic doesn't return from the holiday until Monday so we can take last minute orders up until this Friday the 2nd at 6pm PST.

Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm curious if there are any other vendors that carry Racelogic TC system? I'd rather support BMW vendors before I go off and look for it on Supra or other forums.

I spoke to Jeremy @ Matrix he was very helpful, but unfortunately the special rates the few [lucky] guys got no longer apply. Well, it's too expensive for me to pay the regular price... so I wanted to see if there's any interest for another group buy from someone else, maybe.

I'm ready to buy the system today... so if anyone else is also interested maybe I can even approach another non-BMW vendor with that info.

Thanks a lot!

Boris

Try Bernie at OOParts International......I think their prices may be better. I have no connection, but this is the info I found out when researching the topic. Other things came up so I never got Racelogic but I might have to if I get the twin screw ;)

Here is Bernie's info.....

Bernie Hsiao
OOParts International, Inc. -
U.S. Sales www.ooparts-international.com
sales@ooparts-international.com
Tel. (305) 469-6009
Fax. (305) 373-2749

Try Bernie at OOParts International......I think their prices may be better. I have no connection, but this is the info I found out when researching the topic. Other things came up so I never got Racelogic but I might have to if I get the twin screw ;)

Here is Bernie's info.....

Bernie Hsiao
OOParts International, Inc. -
U.S. Sales www.ooparts-international.com
sales@ooparts-international.com
Tel. (305) 469-6009
Fax. (305) 373-2749


Hey Wes, Boris....

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but Bernie at OO Parts offers the Racelogic systems at the same prices as us.

I'm afraid you won't find any other US Racelogic dealers. We are the largest US Racelogic dealer, offering them to any vehicle. OO Parts is more specialized with the 300ZX's.

If you find a good amount of people Boris, I could see about offering you all a special price.

Let me know what you come up with.

Best regards,
Jeremy

Hey Wes, Boris....

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but Bernie at OO Parts offers the Racelogic systems at the same prices as us.

I'm afraid you won't find any other US Racelogic dealers. We are the largest US Racelogic dealer, offering them to any vehicle. OO Parts is more specialized with the 300ZX's.

If you find a good amount of people Boris, I could see about offering you all a special price.

Let me know what you come up with.

Best regards,
Jeremy

I stand corrected....I just remember the "retail" prices where equal or less at OOParts. Of course the group buy prices at Matrix were much better. I would like to comment that I have only had good experiences with Jeremy at Matrix....I haven't bought anything yet but he responds quickly to his emails.

I stand corrected....I just remember the "retail" prices where equal or less at OOParts. Of course the group buy prices at Matrix were much better. I would like to comment that I have only had good experiences with Jeremy at Matrix....I haven't bought anything yet but he responds quickly to his emails.


Thanks for the kind words Wes. Customer service is of top priority with us.

The retail prices on OO Parts' website a long time ago were less than ours as Bernie hadn't updated his website in a long time. The last time I tried to view his site(last week) it was down for upgrades but his prices are now current and the same as ours.

HTH.
Jeremy

Hey Wes, Boris....

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but Bernie at OO Parts offers the Racelogic systems at the same prices as us.

I'm afraid you won't find any other US Racelogic dealers. We are the largest US Racelogic dealer, offering them to any vehicle. OO Parts is more specialized with the 300ZX's.

If you find a good amount of people Boris, I could see about offering you all a special price.

Let me know what you come up with.

Best regards,
Jeremy

Thanks Jeremy, didn't think you'd see this!! :)

Anyway, if anyone else is interested, please post so we can get a GB. I can wait to get it until I find the price I want, but you know... it would be nice to have it yesterday! :)

Anyway... I already have money on the table for this thing... if anyone wants to join me, please let me know.

Thanks,

Boris

Thanks Jeremy, didn't think you'd see this!! :)

Anyway, if anyone else is interested, please post so we can get a GB. I can wait to get it until I find the price I want, but you know... it would be nice to have it yesterday! :)

Anyway... I already have money on the table for this thing... if anyone wants to join me, please let me know.

Thanks,

Boris

No problem Boris. :)

Try Bernie at OOParts International......I think their prices may be better. I have no connection, but this is the info I found out when researching the topic. Other things came up so I never got Racelogic but I might have to if I get the twin screw ;)

Here is Bernie's info.....

Bernie Hsiao
OOParts International, Inc. -
U.S. Sales www.ooparts-international.com
sales@ooparts-international.com
Tel. (305) 469-6009
Fax. (305) 373-2749

I just checked their site, looks like they sell under list price--yay! Problem is, I tried dialing their number 5-times, yet it keeps saying the number isn't valid. I'll shoot them an e-mail.

Thanks,

Boris

Borris

Isn't your 96 OBD II? Racelogic doesn't work with OBD II, does it?

Borris

Isn't your 96 OBD II? Racelogic doesn't work with OBD II, does it?

Yeah, it does... we recently discussed this in the FI thread... go do a quick search. Neil used it successfully in his track car; I discussed it with him and determined it would be a great mod for myself as well.

My first and only accident in my M3 was when I first got the car and was at the limit taking a turn..... ASC kicked in... the power of the car DIED... (it's like liftoff but worse)... then it kicked back in, etc... it did this a few times as I kept countersteering... but ultimately the car swapped ends and I hit a curb. Had to replace my wheels, suspension and brakes, plus straighten out a fender. I never use ASC anymore...

Boris

On price and time-frame I might be in. I just bought Mike E's (Hamann1000) TEC-3 P-N-P...so...no more OBD2 (except one day every two years...;) )!

If we can find someone to do pricing like the last buy (-25%) I would be on it...

What are Racelogic UK's prices like (unfortunately the pound is strong right now)? Australian vendor perhaps??

Nice, lets get some more people... tell your friends, family and neighbours! ;)

Also, if anyone knows of other vendors/other boards that are hosing a GB... or are just willing to sell at a decent price, please post or PM me...

Thank you,

Boris

Yeah, it does... we recently discussed this in the FI thread... go do a quick search. Neil used it successfully in his track car; I discussed it with him and determined it would be a great mod for myself as well.

My first and only accident in my M3 was when I first got the car and was at the limit taking a turn..... ASC kicked in... the power of the car DIED... (it's like liftoff but worse)... then it kicked back in, etc... it did this a few times as I kept countersteering... but ultimately the car swapped ends and I hit a curb. Had to replace my wheels, suspension and brakes, plus straighten out a fender. I never use ASC anymore...

Boris

OK, I did a quick search. Lot's of people says it can't be done with OBDII, but Neil apparantly got it to work. I noticed that Nick G posted that it could not be done, and then that it could. Perhaps more people would be interested if you pointed them to the definitive thread that shows how to install RL in OBD II? I know that I wouldn't want to drop that kind of cash on hardware I'm not convinced will work.

OK, I did a quick search. Lot's of people says it can't be done with OBDII, but Neil apparantly got it to work. I noticed that Nick G posted that it could not be done, and then that it could. Perhaps more people would be interested if you pointed them to the definitive thread that shows how to install RL in OBD II? I know that I wouldn't want to drop that kind of cash on hardware I'm not convinced will work.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226259&page=3&pp=25

You should contact Nick for more info... I don't know much about it, just that I'm getting it in my car :D. My discussion with Neil about his today put me over the edge. He had nothing but good things to say about it--especially on the track!

Boris

hey boris, hopefully i will get a chance to meet you when you come to pick up your car... i saw it in person... you will not be disappointed!... anyway, i am probably gonna need to get this TC system as well ;)...btw, make sure you remind nick to call me when you and paul get down here, maybe we can go grab a beer and dinner or something./... I want to see the look on your face the first time you floor that beast..

-jon

Thanks Jon.... hehe :devillook

I'll PM you in a min about beer... you buyin'?! :stickoutt :beer:

Boris

P.S. You getting race logic?!?! :)

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226259&page=3&pp=25

You should contact Nick for more info... I don't know much about it, just that I'm getting it in my car :D. My discussion with Neil about his today put me over the edge. He had nothing but good things to say about it--especially on the track!

Boris

O.K., this is what I found out. RaceLogic CAN work with OBDII, but the DME will have to be tweaked by a skilled tuner. The misfire algorithms will have to be adjusted to "ignore" the misfires caused by RaceLogic. Since this procedure will change the diagnostic ability of the DME, a tuner may require a statement of intent to use off-road.

So, Boris, count me in if the price is right.

any idea on pricing yet?? I am interested..

any idea on pricing yet?? I am interested..

I will call Jeremy and find out more info since there's interest...

Boris

I called Jeremy in the morning, he said if we can get 5-people that should be good enough for a GB. Looks like we have about 3-4 at this point? He said he'll get back to me with pricing. I'll post as soon as I hear from him.

Boris

keep us updated!!

Since it's the weekend and I'm still waiting for pricing, I figured I'd make a list of interested parties (don't want this thread to be forgotten :D)...

1) ///3oris
2) buldogge
3) m3j0n
4) lkstaack
5) artemis
6) Vic Sias

Did I miss anyone? Anyone else interested?

Boris

Ok, Jeremy called me last night, and gave me the scoop. Apparently we don't have enough people so there isn't much he can do on price. He only offered free shipping.

I'm not buying Racelogic if I'm only getting free shipping, so I contacted OOParts International (referenced above) and he said he'll gladly host a group buy. I haven't got a final GB price yet, but I know it'll be very good based on our discussions. Anyone who's still interested, please drop me an email at bob.cat@comcast.net and I'll email you guys the prices as soon as I get them. Vic don't worry, I'll email you special :D

Thanks a lot,

Boris

Im intersted Boris... :) get me on that list.

I emailed all those who contacted me... I'll email via the board to those that haven't...

Thanks guys...

Boris

I emailed all those who contacted me... I'll email via the board to those that haven't...

Thanks guys...

Boris

Hey Boris,

How many guys do you have now?

Best,
Jeremy

Hey Boris,

How many guys do you have now?

Best,
Jeremy

Jeremy, looks like about 7...

Boris

Jeremy, looks like about 7...

Boris

Do I hear 10? 20? 30?

:cool:

Follow-up: in case anyone is interested in the group buy.... there's a new one. ENDS IN ONLY 4 DAYS!

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=341016

Boris