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Beavis
12-09-2003, 10:37 PM
Follow the link to see the Dyno results of before an after cam install. http://www.bmwtechforums.com/corrydyno/dynoruns.htm
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toddman35
12-09-2003, 10:42 PM
link didn't work.

JMWeb
12-09-2003, 10:46 PM
nice!
So the Gizmo only gave u 2rwhp?

http://www.bmwtechforums.com/corrydyno/dynoruns.htm

hinzm3
12-09-2003, 10:47 PM
fixed link


http://www.bmwtechforums.com/corrydyno/dynoruns.htm

Topaz M3 Chibi
12-09-2003, 11:11 PM
the torque decreases

332 RustBucket
12-09-2003, 11:14 PM
sorry jaweb, trying to get it so that we didn't cut off your post

JMWeb
12-09-2003, 11:34 PM
Lol, no problem.. Kinda looks funny how my sig is at the bottom.
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The last Dyno pull (10) actually strengthens my argument that new M3s are slower than broken in ones. I noticed that my new motor was extremely slower than my old one and was in fact losing to cars that i had beaten before. The car finally opened up after 4,000 miles of hard driving.
The tech told me that he cleared the adaptation values with the new motor install.

LandShark
12-10-2003, 01:02 AM
very nice number you have there!!! :clap: :clap:

JAlfredPrufrock
12-10-2003, 01:07 AM
10 rwhp gain for how much spent on mods?

m3brad
12-10-2003, 07:31 PM
WOW! Sorry, but that's a lot of $$$$ for 10 HP:eek:

Even worse, you've blown your engine warranty:bawl

SergTech
12-10-2003, 07:58 PM
definatly not downing you but only 10 more HP anf 10 less TQ? I hope is was not expensive. In the end dont we want more TQ as well? I sure would like to see if you gained or lost anything in over all linear spead. do you drag race at all? may be some before and after time slips? it sure would be interesting to see how it performs on the strip now.

GabbyGM3
12-10-2003, 08:23 PM
The torque decreased too much on that last run. I'd take run 6 over all the other runs. Run 6 - 302.4 peak rwhp, 240.0 peak rwtq,
Run 10 - 304.5 peak rwhp, 229.7 peak rwtq

BMWguy206
12-10-2003, 08:55 PM
Beavis doesnt have to worry about the warranty. He works as a BMW Tech at a BMW Center.

I honeslty think he should get a custom software done by Eurobahn/Superchips. They have maps for the modifications he has done to his M3.

Beavis
12-10-2003, 10:41 PM
You guys misunderstand, run 10 was just an experiment with clearing adaption values and self corrects after driving. Runs 1-9 are relevent, get more detail by pulling up the RPM brake down sheets, losses are almost nill with gains of 5-17 HP and 4-13 TQ after 5600 RPM. Notice how consistant the gains are. Also the base line of 290 WHP is done with some exhaust mods and is higher than stock M3s witch put down high 270s as I understand.
:confused:

sgalaba
12-11-2003, 11:27 AM
Here is what my M3 came in at with the same items installed except for; no Evosport pulleys installed, no Gizmo installed, different software, and different muffler.

http://pw1.netcom.com/~sdgbmw2/m3e46/images/sgdyno4.jpg

Beavis
12-11-2003, 08:08 PM
Sgalaba, repost that it didn't come through.
Witch cams did you use, whos software, did you have issues with the drag levers?

sgalaba
12-12-2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Beavis
Witch cams did you use, whos software, did you have issues with the drag levers?

Schrick, same as the ones listed, drag levers, now that one took me some time to figure out what you were asking, as in did we wiped out any cams, yes. Our solution was to break in the cams as if the motor was replaced. If we installed the cams an then went to the dyno we would give the cams the kiss of death that way. we even tested the hardness of the Schrick cams to factory cams and the hardness was the same. some have even reported that the drag levers / fingers / cams followers have been re-part numbered by BMW yet no real change had been noticed. It's even been reported that when one installs cams that the drag levers / fingers / cams followers need to be replaced with new at the time of the cam install and then follow another break-in. All this for love of tuning. software by Oscar.

Greg
12-12-2003, 02:44 PM
Wait Beavis... How much were all these mods?:devillook :laugh

332 RustBucket
12-12-2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Greg
Wait Beavis... How much were all these mods?:devillook :laugh

Not nearly as much as you lost on your summer toy ;):laugh

Beavis
12-12-2003, 07:53 PM
HaHa Greg, JJ Bumbles got you on that.
Sagabala, what were your numbers, what type of dyno? what are you driving now?;)

vjlax18
12-12-2003, 11:44 PM
FWIW, the dyno of my E36 was done on a SuperFlow Dyno, and it read around 7% too high.

sgalaba
12-13-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by vjlax18
FWIW, the dyno of my E36 was done on a SuperFlow Dyno, and it read around 7% too high.

That's funny, as the superflow dyno is the most accurate dyno on the market. More than likely your dyno operator did not correctly setup the data prior to the dyno runs and did you run the wheel slippage sensor?

As it has been stated before you can make all sorts of mistakes when doing dyno runs. Comparing a dynojet to a superflow is like comparing a Ford to a BMW. People either like seeing the facts or not and are often so compelled to try to point out failure or falseness in the results, as I know as I am a member also.

Greg
12-22-2003, 04:03 PM
Not nearly as much as you lost on your summer toy LOL:laugh
JJ Bumbles~
That's funny!!

But wait Brad... Have you tallied up all those Turner Motorsport receipts? I mean ALL of them? I think that takes the cake no?

The price we pay to play! Wouldn't have it any other way.

Actually we should do the math and figure how much we've collectively spent on all our cars, and see what we could have had...Ouch...:)

vjlax18
12-24-2003, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by sgalaba
That's funny, as the superflow dyno is the most accurate dyno on the market. More than likely your dyno operator did not correctly setup the data prior to the dyno runs and did you run the wheel slippage sensor?

As it has been stated before you can make all sorts of mistakes when doing dyno runs. Comparing a dynojet to a superflow is like comparing a Ford to a BMW. People either like seeing the facts or not and are often so compelled to try to point out failure or falseness in the results, as I know as I am a member also.

I was just stating a fact about the day that many of us in this area dyno'd. This was done at AutoThority, and I'd imagine that they knew what they were doing.:dunno

sgalaba
12-25-2003, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by vjlax18
I was just stating a fact about the day that many of us in this area dyno'd. This was done at AutoThority, and I'd imagine that they knew what they were doing.:dunno

LOL, What's really funny here is AutoThority does not write their own software code for BMW's. I have spoken to several of the software writers who write code for them. No wonder the numbers were off, do you really think now they know what they are/where doing? If you knew the circle that the code on my car has been presented to and how it has then been marketed, you would see how small of a world it is.