New Factor (Difference from 2003)

SS 0.836 (0.001)
AS 0.828 0.000
BS 0.826 0.001
CS 0.811 (0.003)
DS 0.794 (0.001)
ES 0.804 0.000
FS 0.803 (0.003)
GS 0.781 (0.001)
HS 0.776 (0.002)
ASP 0.848 0.002
BSP 0.839 (0.001)
CSP 0.837 (0.002)
DSP 0.819 0.001
ESP 0.824 (0.002)
FSP 0.813 (0.002)
AP 0.868 (0.003)
BP 0.863 (0.002)
CP 0.854 0.001
DP 0.844 (0.001)
EP 0.861 (0.002)
FP 0.862 0.001
AM 1.000 0.000
BM 0.945 (0.001)
CM 0.913 (0.003)
DM 0.886 (0.005)
EM 0.894 (0.005)
FM 0.889 (0.005)
STS 0.791 0.007
STX 0.795 (0.003)
SM 0.838 0.004
SM2 0.849 (0.002)
F125 0.938 0.000
FSAE 0.960
FJ1 0.775
FJ2 0.792
FJ3 0.825
FJ4 0.834

Please note that there are no SCCA PAX factors. These are done independently of the SCCA. The SCCA national rules employ heads up competition, though some regions may choose to use them locally as they are allowed to stray from the national ruleset for regional competition. PAX factors are only a general determination that cannot account for a variety of conditions. They ARE NOT absolutes,they are "for funnsies"

I apologize for being a stickler about it, but people trying to use the PAX as an absolute determination is one of my pet peeves.

I agree with Z4 on this one. PAX dat! Fastest time in class wins. Period.

PAX numbers only determine:

1. who is buying lunch
2. who is buying dinner
3. who is buying beer

Originally posted by TeamZ4
Please note that there are no SCCA PAX factors. These are done independently of the SCCA. The SCCA national rules employ heads up competition, though some regions may choose to use them locally as they are allowed to stray from the national ruleset for regional competition. PAX factors are only a general determination that cannot account for a variety of conditions. They ARE NOT absolutes,they are "for funnsies"

I apologize for being a stickler about it, but people trying to use the PAX as an absolute determination is one of my pet peeves.
You must be hunting me down from forum to forum, lol.

Thanks for the information, but I am not sure how to take the it. Our region is using it, and I do intend to change from AS to some SP, so these number are relevant to me. They are not about who is the better driver or fastest in auto-x, they tell me how I should be preparing my car. There is more information to analyze depending on which cars go where, but this is just one of the indicators to me. The most interesting part to me is how each class of interest to me relates to AM.

And as mentioned, it determines who buys lunch/dinner :D We all have our own little competitions, I measure myself according to how close I get to Glenn for example, 2-3 seconds within his time is just excellent lol.

Originally posted by FT@SGP
Our region is using it, and I do intend to change from AS to some SP, so these number are relevant to me.

PAX results are listed on our local SCCA events because it's built into the scoring software, but it's not actually used for anything...just like the Novice results.

I'm not sure if the Council uses them, but they aren't SCCA anyway (other than the one or two local SCCA events that count in the Council championship).

I only point it out as a statement of fact. It came up at the Town Hall meeting at Nationals. Some people actually believe it is an absolute indicator of performance. :rolleyes:

when I run at a regional event I choose the paxed Pro class if it's offered :devillook

Not trying to yank your chain, Fatih. Like TeamZ4, it's one of my pet peeves.

I'll also never see PAX as "an absolute indicator of performance." Rather, I feel that it's something used to make the slower drivers feel better about themselves.

:evil2

Originally posted by GTI Cup
I'll also never see PAX as "an absolute indicator of performance." Rather, I feel that it's something used to make the slower drivers feel better about themselves.

:evil2
Yeah, I like that :D

Btw, I did not take offense in anything at all. I was just pointing out that TeamZ4 was posting the same messages on the boards that I post as the very first reply; and I was trying to add some sacrasm. I guess I did not succeed :dunno

Other than that those are the PAX factors, take it or leave it ;)

"PAX numbers only determine:

1. who is buying lunch
2. who is buying dinner
3. who is buying beer"


Some clubs DO use PAX numbers for other reasons.

Equipe Rapide, a great local AX club, has what they call their RPT (PAX) competition.

For an additional $10.00 all entrants get two more runs after regular competition for the RPT. The drivers put a R in front of their class letters then make their 2 runs. There is a woman's RTP too and they put a W in front of their class letters.

The money is put into a RPT pot and cash is paid to the top 10 men drivers and the top 3 (or more depending on entrants) women drivers based on their PAX times. The pay out is $50.00 for first down to $10.00 for 10th for men and the same amounts for women depending on the entries.

There are also year end YTD RTP awards.

It's a great idea and has really become very popular in the DFW area.

Originally posted by SOLO2M3
[BSome clubs DO use PAX numbers ...

Equipe Rapide, a great local AX club...

The money is put into a RPT pot and cash is paid to the top 10 men drivers and the top 3 women drivers based on their PAX times[/B]

And hopefully those guys / girls are buying lunch.:awink:

Damn, I might have to come up and run with you guys.