View Full Version : Turbo project pics. as you requested.


BoostedE21
11-04-2003, 02:36 AM
Here they are guys, still working on it.:buttrock

11psi so far
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/p78da37edc39d9ca6317a553a10e474a3/faa66d5e.jpg

This BOV is very loud:evil2
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/pb30ce5f78cc9d63ce6af38951fe87c37/faa66d55.jpg

New inside pic w/gauges.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/p08dc86cc70160e6850ad86ccb8f9ecaa/faa66d4e.jpg

Bad pic but you get the ideal. Autometer phantoms.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/p065f90e515b62f52a70ffcf9c8616122/faa66d43.jpg

See anything dif then the rest of teh BBS Spoilers?
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/p605f11470b8a57a63ed66dc892547b5a/faa66d40.jpg

Intercooler cut lower.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/pe563074c3ee91fc66b5b143783f9cbef/faa66d48.jpg

sergs99m3
11-04-2003, 02:45 AM
nice keep us posted!!!

blitzed310
11-04-2003, 03:04 AM
Sweet Attila, the only thing that makes me think is that intercooler, looks really really low but maybe cuz I just cant get a perspective with the picture. But is that a lip on the spoiler? Anyways good job. Vroooom psssst!!!

jbob
11-04-2003, 03:47 AM
awesome! is the mod to the BBS spoiler the extra cutouts for more airflow to the intercooler?

cool, is that the bmpd.com gauge pod?

oh yeah, what did u do for the crank case vent? did ya block it off from the intake & have it running to a catch can? or used an inline checkvalve?

blitzed310
11-04-2003, 04:01 AM
Duh! Now I see the vents you talking about...NiCe :buttrock

BoostedE21
11-04-2003, 12:37 PM
Right now the blow by is just open, we are still working on things. as far as the IC, its inline with the bottom of the spoiler, the back of it is 1/4 in. lower, but, we made a nice skid plate and bracket to cover the IC so that wil not get damaged. I recently put on a deck spoiler for a VW, looks awsome, I have pics of that too soon. Yeah the pod in from BMP.

TheNeek
11-04-2003, 12:56 PM
Looks good man. 11psi on the stock bottom end. Kinda makes ya feel like river dancing. I guess you just dispelled all rumors about M10's not being strong. You didn't change compression correct? How many miles on the motor before you started?

BoostedE21
11-04-2003, 01:08 PM
hey the motor is running really, i mean really strong. It can handle it. Nothing has been done to the motor, its raw. the miles on the new motor is around 1200miles, so its still fresh, we have an extra head that we are going to work on, port polish, 3 angle valve job, mild cam and dual valve springs, soon I will be getting the MSD DIS-2 so I can program the ign, curve, plus my laptop just came in.

MattE21
11-04-2003, 01:11 PM
there we go .. like the spoiler cutout.. can you see the IC well from the front thru the spoiler?

RDAvena
11-04-2003, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by TheNeek
11psi on the stock bottom end. I guess you just dispelled all rumors about M10's not being strong.

Just like I have said before the M10 is an M30 with two cylinders missing.

Todd, the guy selling the turbo manifold is running 15 lbs worth of boost, without an intercooler, on a stock M30 engine. All he changed were the injectors.

If the F1 guys gould squeeze out 1500hp I am sure 300 out of the same block is a piece of cake.

MattE21
11-04-2003, 06:36 PM
good going attila!
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/positive14.jpg

Yonkers320is
11-04-2003, 09:33 PM
How is the turbo plumbed? from the fuel distributor to the turbo intake, to the intercooler and then to the throtle body?

I'm figuring out how to plumb mine.......

BoostedE21
11-05-2003, 01:02 AM
:confused: jee thanx Matt. The IC cant be seen unless you try looking for it. The motor is raw so nothing is done to it. The best part about this is that you can not hear the turbo spool up, and you cant hear the bov when i idel rev it......its a total sleeper. I want a ricer to pull next to me and think he can take me..:nono. The plumbing from the fuel dist, is just PVC, then the piping from the trubo to the IC and IC to TB is stainless steel.:buttrock

TheNeek
11-05-2003, 01:59 AM
yeah I don't quite understand the special olympics thing but hey... I'm an idiot.

Is there a draw back to running the pressureized intake charge through the AFM? I'd imainge it gets slammed open by the turbo charger pretty quickly... unless there is some sort of special weight thing or something. Any light to be shed ///M????

RDAvena
11-05-2003, 12:13 PM
Like you Nic it is a jumbo jet 40.000 feet above my head...

Best option I have heard on the AFMs is to have them upstream from the turbo. Where they can still regulate a bit of the ECU functions while off boost. I know the AFM for the M106 has a heavier spring for low boost, but once it is at WOT like on a boost event it only monitors air temp since the ECU is on a full rich mode for the injectors. Having the AFM after it may be hindering the actual air it "reads" since all of the air has to pass through air cleaner, pipes, turbo, intercooler, and finally it gets to the AFM(heated?). But on the flip side if the AFM is too far away from the throttle it increases lag on the responsiveness of the AFM. Many say to limit the distance of the AFM from the throttle. On the turb o motor the AFM is before the charged air side.

BoostedE21
11-05-2003, 12:35 PM
Just to remind you guys I have the CIS system (K-jet). The AFM is hooked up to the turbo compresser, it really doesnt slam open, all its doing is acting like the motor opening it. Not sure tho cuase I cant see it and I dont know THAT much about the AMF on this car. I'll see what I can come up with.

TheNeek
11-05-2003, 02:09 PM
Either way ///M I know that the plunger that travels up and down gets shooved around quite a bit by the turbo. If I recall correctly, most of the fuel metering on the K-Jet setups like that were done by the WUR... that turbo audi 5000 piece I was talking about a couple of months ago.
That plunger that meters air on the K-Jet is a big cantalever that is pivoting in the middle. One side is the big baffle plate that gets pushed up and down by the moving air. The plate actuates a large cantaliever arm which inturn moves the plunger in the fuel distributor up and down. Now the resistance to movement of the baffle plate is directly related to the amount of fuel pressure on the plunger. So if you have replaced the fuel pump with something a little beefier (or some sort of regulator), it is possible that the baffle plate doesn't get thrown around as much as I am thinking. I have a bosch fuel injection and engine management book. I highly recommend purchasing one.

RDAvena
11-05-2003, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by M10-POWER
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RDAvena
[B]Just like I have said before the M10 is an M30 with two cylinders missing.

No Ray its the M30 is just a M10 with two more cylinders. :wave:


:laugh I stand corrected Paul. :biglaughb

BoostedE21
11-05-2003, 10:47 PM
I have two fuel pump on and the system pressure is raised.