Nothing makes me happier than rolling down the highway or through town and see someone in a boxter smile like his cars a 911, I was cruising down the highway with a friend, a guy in a auto boxter S is cruising and i start toying with him trying to get a bite, the car in front of him moves out of the way, i'm behind him, we both mash the throttle and as i leave him behind his cocky smile turns into shame and he takes the next exit

anyone else here enjoy putting boxters in their place too? seems like every guy in a boxter is under some kind of impression that buying that over an M3 is a great decision

It is a great decision, if:

A: You want a mid/rear engine roadster

B: You want a Porsche

M3 and Boxter are apples and oranges.

Theres no apples and oranges when it comes to bang for the buck, ive driven both many times and the bmw is just an all around better machine... the boxter offers nothing more in the way of luxury, and if its a convertible youre after, get an m roadster, the fact that the boxter is a waste of money is a simple truth of life, just like peeing before you take a shower, its unavoidable

I dont like them....... :az: Thats me though ;) What exactly do you drive?

96 328i, sharked, ansa exhaust, uuc short shift... springs diff and wheels are on the way, currently i do 6.1 to 60, havent had time to do a 1/4 mile, but stock i still piss on boxters, but im sure a corrolla S does too ;-)

Wow, your ignorance amazes me.
It's fanboys like you that give enthusiasts a bad name.
FYI the car is called a Boxster not Boxter.

Originally posted by MontoyaWannaBe
96 328i, sharked, ansa exhaust, uuc short shift... springs diff and wheels are on the way, currently i do 6.1 to 60, havent had time to do a 1/4 mile, but stock i still piss on boxters, but im sure a corrolla S does too ;-)

ahahhaha, you don't even drive an M3!!!
Man go back to reading your car mags.
There is no way in HELL you would beat a good driver in a manual Boxster be it an S or not.

:devillook

I like Boxsters...but they're not much competition though.

FYI my keyboard is broken and if i wasnt holding the shift button down right now all my writing would be caps FYI my ignorance? you just judged my complete personality and driving ability on 2 posts, either youre a mind reader or youre ignorant, and FYI a boxSter hits 60 in 6.6 stock so i guess even fangio himself couldnt beat me on the highway... but you knew all that from reading my other posts right?

and youre right i dont have an M3, but im also 20 years old, so i must be a joke

we're all friends here.

ahh the p-car dilemma. it will go on for ever.

i really like them, but i have an M3. good kill. its great to kill anything, especially old men.

yup i hate boxsters

BTW: The P will forever rule the world=
http://www.cecwheels.com/gallery/archive/ta_996t_type_ii_fr_3_4.gif

exactly, its sad that my 10K car is faster than his and with a grand in suspension work would handle just as well, boxsters arent for people out for pure driving pleasure, its simply mark identification and some drivers get an air about them like they bought a car that actually hauled...

i love porsches, some of my favorite cars, but a boxster who thinks hes a 911 is as annoying as a lancer who thinks hes an evo or a 318ti who thinks hes an M3, its not hating on the car, its the driver

wait. was this a boxster S or not? if it was an S, auto or not I think it does a better then 6.6 0-60 time.

it was an S which does 5.9 stock, but i put out 6.1 and im pretty sure he was auto cause we raced for a good while and his hands didnt move from the wheel... if it was manny it wouldve been close, and he wouldve probably won due to aerodynamics

nice 'kill'

p.s i wouldnt mind a prosche ;) albeit a boxster..

Wait... you have a sharked 328 and you hang with a Boxster S? :confused:

Similar 0-60 times is one thing, beating them on a roll is another...

:cop:

this thread is totally fishy....

so lets just love the P-Car

Originally posted by MontoyaWannaBe
he wouldve probably won due to aerodynamics

u know u are talking about a convertible vs ur COUPE, right?

. . . just checking :dunno

E36s are as aerodynamic as a brick. The P-car, even as a 'vert, prolly has the edge.

the cd on any vert is bad (of course, hardtops make a big difference)

overall the e36 has the advantage from a roll, cd being worse or not (which i highly doubt the cd is worse than that of a cab) . . . the e36 has a much more rigid cabin structure (i.e. it actually incorporates pillars) which in the end will make it much more "wind friendly" :12:

kill stories should never be posted when killing a boxster s. boxsters s are porshes with panties... post with a kill... not a massacre

Originally posted by twelve-o-three
BTW: The P will forever rule the world=
http://www.cecwheels.com/gallery/archive/ta_996t_type_ii_fr_3_4.gif

I'm a bigger fan of the 959 although its a little old.

http://erntheburn.tripod.com/autos/959/959d.jpg

Way to many boxsters around here. Good kill too =)

Go to the drag strip with your 328, then talk. Your assumed 0-60 times mean absolutely nothing. I will tell you right now that my Mom's Boxster is faster than a 328 with the mods that you have, ESPECIALLY from a roll. BTW, a 328is was my first car.
Besides your post should have said "I think that stuck up Porsche driver's suck." Not flaming the car!

For starters, racing from a roll isn't a race at all. So you telling us this doesn't mean a whole helluva lot. There are way too many variables to factor in to get an accurate judgment of a cars capabilities.

Secondly, if you have not driven a Boxster S, you have no room to speak. I for one find them to be outstanding automobiles. Very quick, very nimble, and one sweet engine note. I personally love the car. For all of you haters out there claiming it isn't a real Porsche, your just plain dumb. Porsche created a terrific roadster in the Boxster, any real driver with a hint of experience will tell you that.

This is my .02 cents anyway.

once again people miss the point of my post, it has NOTHING to do with the car, its a great car and yes i have driven many boxsters, including the S on several occasions... neither is the post intended to be hatred to porsches, ive driven 911s as well and they are pure driving enjoyment... the post was meant to point out that too many boxter drivers think that their cars are fast as hell when in fact theyre beaten by many sedans older than them... i have raced boxters off the line and on a roll, my friend has one so weve raced quite a few times and ive won every time... i like the boxster, its a great car, but its a waste of money IMHO....

and i forget who wrote the comment on there being way too many factors to judge the two cars, well that is true, but then youd have to rule out EVERY kill story on this site... you guys are much too quick to judge, i hate to tell you but YES a 96 328i IS faster than a boxster and no matter how many porsche emblems are on the car it doesnt make a difference

and i dont hate rich people, im from greenwich, theyre a part of me, i actually have quite a fondness for them ;-)

and i havent just raced from a roll either, my friend and i raced off a light and i dumped the clutch and so did he, but my traction control was on and my power cut off and then after a second when it kicked back in i pulled out and still beat him... i dont understand why some of you guys feel the need to interpret my post as an anti porsche statement, i dont like the car (boxster) all that much, and that doesnt mean i hate porsches or dont know anything about cars, it just means i dont like the car

How do you figure that a car with less hp and more weight = faster acceleration? Get a clue man! ......and please quit quoting magazine times, as they mean jack!
The boxster is not a waste of money if it is the car you are looking for. A true mid-engined sports car. It is a great machine, both the S and non S. End of story.

these arent magazine times, hell in my last post i didnt even mention times, im talking about what happened, they are great cars, just overpriced

im not even going to bother with this thread anymore, even though i started it...

its sad people, you cant accept that 50-60K for a boxster is overpriced, its the simple truth, i dont think im being unreasonable

then again a battle of opinions isnt ever reasonable

less hp? true, but stock i make 214 ft lbs, it makes 192, so i think that evens it out a bit... and power and weight? that makes a difference, but so does gearing, RPM limit, power and torque spread, so many things... my car isnt that fast, i admit that, its not a slouch tho, and no matter how you slice it, a boxster isnt... i dont know why people cant accept that, as bmw fans it should tickle you pink to know that a regular 3 series from 96 can beat porsches entry effort for 1/4 the price (my cars not worth much = bang for the buck) to push the bmw vs porsche debate is stupid, but boxsters just cant hang in acceleration (ill easily admit its superiorityon a track)

I guess not responding anymore went out the window

something i have always liked about porsche was their build quality. if you have ever driven in or sat in a boxster/boxster s/911, you would have a bigass smile on your face while you were driving that car too. you come off just as your name implies, a wannabe.

there is so much more to a car than childish 0-60 contests.

i restate my comment... porsche with panties

Originally posted by twelve-o-three
BTW: The P will forever rule the world=
http://www.cecwheels.com/gallery/archive/ta_996t_type_ii_fr_3_4.gif
You're high!

Plenty of Boxsters around here.....99% driven by women:boobies

all those baggin on boxsters, I hope you've driven one. If you have, fine thats your opinion. For those who haven't, take your foot out of your mouth. The feel of even a base boxster is years ahead of an E36 m3. Sorry, having driven a boxster extensively, I know i'd take one over an E36 M3 any day. And your friend blows at driving, cause i spank my friend's modded E36 328ic with my base boxster.

Originally posted by PasadenaE36
all those baggin on boxsters, I hope you've driven one. If you have, fine thats your opinion. For those who haven't, take your foot out of your mouth. The feel of even a base boxster is years ahead of an E36 m3. Sorry, having driven a boxster extensively, I know i'd take one over an E36 M3 any day. And your friend blows at driving, cause i spank my friend's modded E36 328ic with my base boxster.

amen to that!

any porsche kill are always the sweetests of kills.

I am not really gonna get into this topic too much, but i love PORSCHE, but theres somehting about the boxter that i hate...its like a honda verion of porsche...i think boxster suck but the 911's make me horny

Can you believe I actually logged onto BF.C from my buddies' laptop in Hawaii while Im on vacation to respond to your post?

Me niether...

I am willing to bet the following:

1.) You have never driven any year or model 911.
2.) You have never driven any year or model 986.
3.) You have only owned one car, your 328, and you add up all the claimed "horsepower" that your mods give you and use a calculator to determine how 'fast' you are.

Welcome to Bimmerforums. My advice to you is to sign up all over again under a different name and make an effort to ensure your first post isnt aimed at ragging on a car whose name you cant even spell.

Good day.

i used to drive my dads 98 auto boxster before having my e36 m3. dude, i hated that POS. sure it sounded really nice, look gorgeous, and handled really well, but it was slowww as hell. i got beat by everything!! from modded civics to jettas, i'd barely keep up!! i hated that car. thank god for e36 m3s...

Originally posted by Kruzin E39
i used to drive my dads 98 auto boxster before having my e36 m3. dude, i hated that POS. sure it sounded really nice, look gorgeous, and handled really well, but it was slowww as hell. i got beat by everything!! from modded civics to jettas, i'd barely keep up!! i hated that car. thank god for e36 m3s...

you do not know how to appreciate a car.

what a disgrace...

boxster is a disgrace, but boxster S is not ...

I believe that Porsche Boxster S will rape you if the driver was good.

ive been avoiding responding cause i dont think its making adifference, but i cant help it

to the post above, yes a boxster S would beat me, but as i posted earlier, i believe the car had an auto tranny

to the post a few posts up, you dont know what ive driven, ive driven porsches, ferraris, all kinds of bmw, not to boast, but i livein greenwich, in highschool, when my friends parents went away, joy rides were not uncommon in cars that most people dont see too often... dont go telling me what i have and havent driven, cause you dont know (its an insult to your intelligence to claim something like that)... on top of that i never gave a number i claimed to have with all my mods added up, i think i claimed i had a bit over 200, not an unlikely number from whative done, and the 214 ft lbs of torque i posted is STOCK, not with mods, its what BMW claims straight from the factory, i dont know if you just skimmed the posts or read them carefully, but a greater attention to detail would be advisable

and i wont sign up under another name, cause boxsters are A WASTE OF MONEY there are ways the money could be better spent for a better car, hell get an elise, youll still get the exclusivity of getting a european car, but at least you wont be getting ripped by old BMWs like mine

in the end, i have no problem with boxsters, theyre good cars, the thing that pissed me off is the guys who act as if you trying to race them is an insult to their cars straight line ability, which it is NOT

im getting sick of defending my posts, ive killed a few boxsters in this car, while itwas stock AND modded, and its an unavoidable truth that its faster... i dont know why that pisses people off...

Originally posted by novulari
boxster is a disgrace, but boxster S is not ...

I believe that Porsche Boxster S will rape you if the driver was good.

LOL! Boxster is a crappy car, but the S is pretty good, but it's not anywhere close for the bang for the buck. For the same, the M coupe is better with extra cash to mod!

i agree, when in an S i just dont feel like im driving a $50K+ sports car... in an M Coupe (though i havent driven one, but looking to replace the 328i with one, or an S4 [giving in to practicallity] ) im sure the feel and the driveability are much better, being bmws best handling car... i dunno, getting tired of the topic and people who dont understand what imsaying

We do understand what you're saying, MWB, but some folks think you're wrong, some folks think you're being too much of a BMW fanboi, and some folks think you're both.

When the Boxster was in development/released, it had the Z3 and the CLK 230 for real competition. The Miata was the inspiration for all three cars, or at least the reason to start making roadsters again.

It had more power than the any of the cars above, a firmer chassis than the Z3 (can you say cowl shake?), was much more serious minded and lighter than the CLK, was mid-engined, and most important to image buyers, had the classic Porsche styling.

Then along came the MZ3, so Porsche upped the power, gave it better brakes and suspension, and the Boxster S was born. The S had better brakes, comparable suspension, still didn't have the cowl shake the Z3 was infamous for, and made more power.

Sure it was priced a bit higher than the Z3 or MZ3, but not THAT much higher, and people are willing to pay more for the Porsche credentials than they are BMW's, especially in a sports car. And unlike the E36/7 Z3 series, the Boxster was a ground up new car, not a hybrid of an E36 and E30 in new sheetmetal. (That's not a bag on BMW's method of making the Z3, they made one hell of a car out of "spare parts", and kept the costs down doing it)

But I bet not once during the Boxster's development or refinement process did Porsche engineers think "Wow, we need to make this car competitive with the E36 M3 coupe/sedan/cabrio, since so many people are going to be making a direct comparision between the two cars, since they're both, um, yeah, well, they're both German and both, um, hmm, both are German!"

And even with that in mind, the Boxster S rolling off the showroom floor IS a more capable car in most categories than a new E36 M3, unmodded.

There's about 18 reasons to lock this post, but the overall reason would be how some folks tend to not treat one another with respect. Please Re-read the thread parked at the very top of this forum.

PS- MontoyaWannaBe, you are new here. Please refrain from using any profanity in the Main Forums (outside of Off Topic) especially in the thread titles.

We have a lot of members (and adevertisers) who scan the site while at work, and certain key words (profanity) can cause problems for them.

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