View Full Version : C32 v. M3 -- M3 Victorious!


Kevlar
09-25-2003, 12:16 AM
Reader's Digest Version... The original was way to freakin' long and was lost once when the computer decided to freeze :mad:

Driving past the Mercedes Benz dealership today... I see a silver C class moving through traffic after pulling out of the dealership. So I move in to investigate. Turns out, it's a Silver C32 (do they sell anything other than silver?) with two gentlement in the car... one looks to be a salesman, and a passenger... not sure. There is a plate in the rear window not in it's regular place.

After investigating, I'm following them hoping they are on a test drive. Lets see if we can follow these guys around a bit. We get to a nice stretch of open road, and the C32 jets off... but I'm right behind it. I'm not loosing any ground, but I'm not making up any either. Not sure if it's because of him getting the jump or if he's just matched for power.

After 3 brisk acceleration runs, I'm right there... he knows I'm there. The passenger is looking over at my car constantly as I'm now at their rear bumper on the passenger side. I've matched their pace and the driver goes for it one more time... but this time I'm ready...

Starting from the rear bumper, I manage to pull my way to the front door before shutting it down. SWEET :buttrock

But now, this is what I'm hoping for... they put their blinker on and make for the common test driving location.

Location... two lane road with plenty of forgiving corners with the occasional tight one here or there. Mind you, I've done this road a billion and one times. I could probably drive it in reverse with my eyes closed and two feet tied behind my back, but then we rocket past the common place they switch drivers. So I'm guessing it's not a test drive, but possibly a salesman giving a ride to a friend or two salesmen. Not sure which, but the C32 isn't slowing.

I'm sticking to them like glue... not close, enough room to make my presence known, but enough room for them to make a mistake as the first corner is coming. First corner, C32 goes powering into the corner, I'm still a little ways back... but preparing for the corner. C32 hits the corner hard, it dives down and turns in... pretty nice and I see the tail start to swing wide.

Oh... intentions are known and now, I'm going to make every attempt to make sure those intentions are futile. I grab 2nd gear and hit the corner and pour the power on coming out of the corner. Ha... C32 is losing ground to me and I'm coming up behind them forcing me to lift...

Ok... so many the C32 lost power exiting the corner because of his tail wagging antics... while cool, probably slowed him down, but he showed his hand, I knew he was going to be pushing it the rest of the way.

Second corner... C32 goes diving in late, waiting to the last second to hit the brakes. Confident... I'm right there with them. I over brake which works in my favor as I'm back on the gas earlier through the corner. I hear the C32 with the throttle on, but my corner speed is faster... and I'm reeeling the C32 in. :redspot:

A few more corners like this proves the C32 can't making my entry/exit speed and each corner I'd pull him in forcing me to lift. He can't get away from me until I'm forced to lift, then he pulls away.

Upcoming... favorite corner. It's a tight right hander into a fast sweeper that rewards those that brake late. I ease off the back of the C32 giving him plenty of room as I do not know how well this guy is going to take this corner. I see him swing wide to make the widest arc around the corner. Tisk tisk. I'm on power and brake at the last minute which pivots the car just enough so I'm back on the power quickly.

Our exits speeds were so different on this corner, I was pulling in the C32 like a dead fish on my fishing line. I had to lift quickly to avoid making this guy feel like a Burger King drive thru. I stay on his tail tho as the C32 is known for mid to upper range power/torque which should work to his advantage through this sweeper.

Sorry... no sale. Apparently, the C32 or the driver was lacking. While still moving quickly, I was right there. If I had room to pass, I could've.

Finishing the sweeper, there wasn't much after that except a few more repeats of the above, but C32 while fast straight, couldn't put it through the corners. I won't blame the car totally tho as it might have been the driver as well.

Still a super fun run tho.

325Driver
09-25-2003, 12:22 AM
WOW. Sounds like fun Kevin. Way to show that guy what BMWs are really made for.

rabid97m3
09-25-2003, 01:05 AM
where is this street at? i got to go there when i get my s/c on the m. areyou talking about the mb dealer off of i 75 and pines?

sweet story, i heard from alot of people the the c32 is not a car to play with. i must look for one when im fully armed.

yotone
09-25-2003, 01:08 AM
damn, a supra then a c32. why is it when im on the highways only neons and maximas r the only ones that r willing to go fast n race?

MGregski
09-25-2003, 07:31 AM
Nice run Kev, hey, you got him in the twisties:D

shmoo
09-25-2003, 07:41 AM
hahha! You just made the customer change his mind from buying that car!!:D :mdrbig :laugh :nono

Kevlar
09-25-2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by rabid97m3
where is this street at? i got to go there when i get my s/c on the m. areyou talking about the mb dealer off of i 75 and pines?

sweet story, i heard from alot of people the the c32 is not a car to play with. i must look for one when im fully armed.

It's the perimeter road @ Ft. Lauderdale Airport, it's a nice rewarding set of corners... just a FYI tho, if you're going for fun, make sure you do a once around first to make sure local law enforcement isn't on patrol.

Hugo
09-25-2003, 08:50 AM
Nice run.

e34biturbo
09-25-2003, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by Kevlar
Reader's Digest Version... The original was way to freakin' long and was lost once when the computer decided to freeze :mad:

Driving past the Mercedes Benz dealership today... I see a silver C class moving through traffic after pulling out of the dealership. So I move in to investigate. Turns out, it's a Silver C32 (do they sell anything other than silver?) with two gentlement in the car... one looks to be a salesman, and a passenger... not sure. There is a plate in the rear window not in it's regular place.

After investigating, I'm following them hoping they are on a test drive. Lets see if we can follow these guys around a bit. We get to a nice stretch of open road, and the C32 jets off... but I'm right behind it. I'm not loosing any ground, but I'm not making up any either. Not sure if it's because of him getting the jump or if he's just matched for power.

After 3 brisk acceleration runs, I'm right there... he knows I'm there. The passenger is looking over at my car constantly as I'm now at their rear bumper on the passenger side. I've matched their pace and the driver goes for it one more time... but this time I'm ready...

Starting from the rear bumper, I manage to pull my way to the front door before shutting it down. SWEET :buttrock

But now, this is what I'm hoping for... they put their blinker on and make for the common test driving location.

Location... two lane road with plenty of forgiving corners with the occasional tight one here or there. Mind you, I've done this road a billion and one times. I could probably drive it in reverse with my eyes closed and two feet tied behind my back, but then we rocket past the common place they switch drivers. So I'm guessing it's not a test drive, but possibly a salesman giving a ride to a friend or two salesmen. Not sure which, but the C32 isn't slowing.

I'm sticking to them like glue... not close, enough room to make my presence known, but enough room for them to make a mistake as the first corner is coming. First corner, C32 goes powering into the corner, I'm still a little ways back... but preparing for the corner. C32 hits the corner hard, it dives down and turns in... pretty nice and I see the tail start to swing wide.

Oh... intentions are known and now, I'm going to make every attempt to make sure those intentions are futile. I grab 2nd gear and hit the corner and pour the power on coming out of the corner. Ha... C32 is losing ground to me and I'm coming up behind them forcing me to lift...

Ok... so many the C32 lost power exiting the corner because of his tail wagging antics... while cool, probably slowed him down, but he showed his hand, I knew he was going to be pushing it the rest of the way.

Second corner... C32 goes diving in late, waiting to the last second to hit the brakes. Confident... I'm right there with them. I over brake which works in my favor as I'm back on the gas earlier through the corner. I hear the C32 with the throttle on, but my corner speed is faster... and I'm reeeling the C32 in. :redspot:

A few more corners like this proves the C32 can't making my entry/exit speed and each corner I'd pull him in forcing me to lift. He can't get away from me until I'm forced to lift, then he pulls away.

Upcoming... favorite corner. It's a tight right hander into a fast sweeper that rewards those that brake late. I ease off the back of the C32 giving him plenty of room as I do not know how well this guy is going to take this corner. I see him swing wide to make the widest arc around the corner. Tisk tisk. I'm on power and brake at the last minute which pivots the car just enough so I'm back on the power quickly.

Our exits speeds were so different on this corner, I was pulling in the C32 like a dead fish on my fishing line. I had to lift quickly to avoid making this guy feel like a Burger King drive thru. I stay on his tail tho as the C32 is known for mid to upper range power/torque which should work to his advantage through this sweeper.

Sorry... no sale. Apparently, the C32 or the driver was lacking. While still moving quickly, I was right there. If I had room to pass, I could've.

Finishing the sweeper, there wasn't much after that except a few more repeats of the above, but C32 while fast straight, couldn't put it through the corners. I won't blame the car totally tho as it might have been the driver as well.

Still a super fun run tho.


Hey Kev'

New trend prowling the dealerships now!!!:biglaughb

Sweet run..........I got a few pictures fron the IAA in Frankfurt
to show you.......

MGregski
09-25-2003, 09:41 AM
BMWNA should cut you a check for stealing a customer.

syndicate3
09-25-2003, 09:52 AM
Nice kill!

sirtiger
09-25-2003, 11:12 AM
nice run... I wonder if they really did push it at all...from what I read, those cars can be serious business on the road...

Dark Helmet
09-25-2003, 02:30 PM
nice, the guy probably still thinks he won though! :D:D

328bimma
09-25-2003, 08:35 PM
nice kill!! but, isn't ur car modded? and his car was new? C32 gets faster when the milage builds up. but... i'd take a M3 anyday if im going to play twisties.

AngelEye328i
09-25-2003, 09:35 PM
Kevin hit it on the spot. Why do Mercedes MAKE TONS of SILVER color cars? They need to spice it up a little. I was thinking about getting an C32 AMG. They look so sweet espically the V6 Kompressor on the side :D. With over 340 Horse to play with.. Oh Yeah.. But the color choice sucks ass :(

MFaust
09-25-2003, 09:37 PM
Too bad BMW doesn't want to get into the Kompressor field. I guess they don't want to make the car "too" good.

12:03
09-25-2003, 09:45 PM
you can get any color you want. MBZ-USA only orders them in silver and black, but you can get any color on the palate. ive seen dark blue, white, and red besides. good kill kevlar.

ahh. the twisties. i can get ANYONE in the twisties

FrankW
09-25-2003, 09:54 PM
any color you can get on the C-class you can get for the C32. silver, black, obsidian black, alabaster white, bordeux red, magma red, pewter silver, desert silver, etc. It's just that most people tend to get silver because it's pretty much a trend that never gets old.

cool write up btw. But I agree with Jerry on this one. Kev's car's slightly modded and a new C32's transmission response is super slow and it'll be more powerful when some mileage builts in. stock vs stock it'll be pretty close if both cars has similar mileage, the M3 is faster around the corner, and the C32 is faster on the straight once it gets going.

C32Guy
09-25-2003, 10:51 PM
Nice race and a good kill. It would have been fun riding with you on this one. :)

mmmbeefy42
09-25-2003, 11:26 PM
Hahahaha. MB v. BMW at it's finest. Is there any better situation where you could show a guy up? That's awesome. Best kill ever.

slickav
09-26-2003, 01:18 AM
Nice run's :buttrock

BumblBeeRacer
09-26-2003, 02:51 AM
great job, and i hope bmw never sinks down to the level of putting stock turbos or supers

JMWeb
09-26-2003, 10:46 AM
Nice, got em in da twisties :buttrock

FrankW
09-26-2003, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
great job, and i hope bmw never sinks down to the level of putting stock turbos or supers

BMW had turbos...

Kevlar
09-27-2003, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by FrankW
BMW had turbos...

They still do... turbo diesels, but still, they are turbos.

FrankW
09-27-2003, 05:12 AM
Originally posted by Kevlar
They still do... turbo diesels, but still, they are turbos.

yeah, that too.

Kain
09-28-2003, 12:31 PM
The people at MBWorld think this "story" is BS.

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52916#newpost

FrankW
09-28-2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Kain
The people at MBWorld think this "story" is BS.

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52916#newpost

way to start a flame, kid....:rolleyes:

Kevlar
09-28-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Kain
The people at MBWorld think this "story" is BS.

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52916#newpost

Ha... nice thread over there.

They can think whatever they want. I don't drive an M3... I drive a Geo Metro and I like to post fake stories so the MBWorld guys can get their panties in a bunch because an M3 beat a C32. Oh... and since I have 9000+ posts, I must sit here in the dark and just think up stories using my imagination.

Right... :rolleyes:

Nothing wrong with the C32... I think it's a great car. The C32 is very on par with the M3 stock for stock. A modded M3 will take a stock C32... a modded C32 will take a stock M3. I've lost to C32s plenty of times... no shame in it. M3 happened to be the bigger dog that day... but I'm sure the C32 will eat me for lunch another day...

And since now we are going to have MBWorld guys coming over here and jumping all over this post, I'll just go ahead and lock this now to save myself the aggrevation later.