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Kevlar 09-24-2003, 11:40 PM Driving home... I see what looks like a Supra ahead of me. I play catchup only to see him making his way to the highway onramp. Thinking oh well... and I continue past him.
Just as I pass him, he pulls back onto the road leaving hte highway. I think, he must be coming for me. Ain't nobody else around.
I hear the turbos spool behind me... I'm thinking, damn, that ain't stock. It sneezes past my passenger window and I make a move to catch up and pull even with him. He looks over and gives me the nod. I drop to 4th... then down to 3rd. Engine is singing at 4500rpms.
He motions me to go... thinking it's gentlemanly of him. I mash the gas. I manage to pull a half car lead. As I'm winding out 3rd... he's pulling by me. As I'm reaching redline in 3rd, his rear bumper is now pulling past my front bumper.
Just as I hit 4th, I hear him bouncing off the revlimiter. I let off 4th as he was still pulling and it was obvious, I just had my ass handed to me.
He slows down, we chat... he says my car is fast, I tell him... thanks, he proceeds to tell me he's stock. I said, ya right. Then he started telling me it's a BPU (who knows what that means). I just know it's fast.
Oh well... I need to drop that supercharged M5 engine into my car. Now what did I do with my AMEX card.
BrightRedOne 09-24-2003, 11:41 PM BPU = Basic Performance Upgrade. Nice Death.
$150FC 09-25-2003, 12:54 AM time and time again :D
supra+roll=death
nice loss
«Basic»... as in... «far from stock anyway».
rabid97m3 09-25-2003, 01:19 AM what is consider a bpu.bigger turbos, nos, damn ill be on the look out for supras with bpu- nice death, man never ceases to amaze me the amount of fast a-- cars down here in south fla. half of them look stock.
MGregski 09-25-2003, 07:34 AM That's what Supras are good for - highway pulls. I'd still rather have your car.
shmoo 09-25-2003, 07:45 AM Bouncing off rev limiter=Automatic supra
Those things are hella fast! They can go close to 200mph modified !!!!
4-BNGR 09-25-2003, 09:12 AM Originally posted by WannaM
That's what Supras are good for - highway pulls. I'd still rather have your car.
9, 10, and 11 sec 1/4 miles are a nice thing too :D
sirtiger 09-25-2003, 11:08 AM nice death.... Some Supras are scary cars..... yeah, what is with Fl and fast cars? hmmm... :)
Carzzi 09-25-2003, 02:40 PM BPU, a Supra guy once told me, is intake & exhaust (cat-back). Helps the turbos spool up much quicker!
Wasted M3 Driver 09-25-2003, 02:57 PM BPU Supra - exhaust system (most of the major brand name exhausts are fine)
downpipe with or without high flow catalytic converter (rod millan, speedtek, random technology, stillen, uprd, powerhouse & spp)
ebc or mbc (electronic/manual boost controller), not boost controllers w/ fuzzy logic (e.g.. profec a and hks evc)
fuel cut defenser (greddy bcc - highly recommended by the mkiv.com members. read why hks fcd is the same as the ffcd (using the hks fcd or the ffcd is only recommended if you have the ttc mod and 12v mod)
with the bpu installed, you can expect to obtain approximately 370-410 rear wheel horsepower (rwhp). damn, you gotta love the supra tt!!
Read this and you'll know a lot more about Supra's.
http://www.mkiv.com/faq/faqtt.html
"That's what Supras are good for - highway pulls. I'd still rather have your car."
Mine does pretty well in the turns.;)
I do miss my M3's though...:bawl I would love to pick up another 95 M3 sometime soon...I've seen plenty 95 M3's go ~15k I don't think you can buy a better all around sports car for the $$.
Nice straight line death, but you know what they say ... :D
525iT_Feen 09-25-2003, 03:51 PM Nice Death...
I'd still love to see a BPU supra on the roads around here, Forget seeing it actually race.
Ive seen like 10 in the whole freaking state, i really think their wonderful cars, there just not popular around here.
:buttrock once again, nice death :buttrock
mmmbeefy42 09-25-2003, 11:34 PM So do you think the M car would win from a stop?
Those things are MEAN. Scary power. And stock my ass.
Yasir 09-25-2003, 11:51 PM Basic Performance Upgrade ( BPU)
1)- Intake $150
2)-Exhaust $550
3)- Catless DP $200
4)- Manual Boost controller $50
5)- Boost guage $150
6)-Fuel Cut defensor $150
Total:- $1250
HP gain Approx 400+ at the wheels:D
I have both cars,a 98 M3 5 speed and a BPU Supra TT 6 speed ( 424 rwhp) and there's no way an M3 can keep up with a Supra TT period.However since i have quite a few things done to the supra so i really can't comment about the handling but M3 does handles pretty good.
Later, Yasir
slickav 09-26-2003, 01:24 AM Nice Death
98BMW318ti 09-26-2003, 02:04 AM i don't care if his supra can do the quarter mile in 8 seconds. i would still rather have your car.
BumblBeeRacer 09-26-2003, 02:44 AM ditto
QuickShift 09-26-2003, 04:07 AM Originally posted by 98BMW318ti
i don't care if his supra can do the quarter mile in 8 seconds. i would still rather have your car.
BIAS comment, it's OK since we're on this forum.
:D
Yasir 09-26-2003, 10:16 AM Originally posted by 98BMW318ti
i don't care if his supra can do the quarter mile in 8 seconds. i would still rather have your car.
Are grapes sour :dunno Anyway learn to give credit where it's deserved.
Later, Yasir :buttrock
JMWeb 09-26-2003, 10:39 AM Nice death kev.
It wouldnt happen to be a black Supra would it? I raced one on US27 last week and had him by less than a fender up to 140 :evil2
98BMW318ti 09-27-2003, 12:45 AM i think there's more to a car than straight line speed. that's not the reason why people buy bmw's. but it's all good.
Twisty 09-27-2003, 03:28 PM Damn...410hp would be very very nice... beware of the BPU!
bassit 09-27-2003, 09:18 PM Supreas r very common here in Au ~ coz there all imported 2nd hand from JPN witha round 40,000kms on the clock. and they go for around $15~20k USD depending on non-turbo or turbo models.
give me a M3 any day!!!
MFaust 09-27-2003, 10:40 PM I'd love to have an MKIV Supra in the stable.
12:03 09-27-2003, 10:48 PM Originally posted by $150FC
time and time again :D
supra+roll=death
nice loss
:cop:
cosmo95m3 09-29-2003, 04:05 AM NICE story!!!!! BPU supras run in the 12's..Dont fuck with those cars if you hear BPU...Call AA and get a stage 3..Then go find that BPU fuck LOL
SilverStreak 09-29-2003, 01:18 PM cosmo, please watch the language in the Main Forums... :cop:
Yasir 09-30-2003, 02:08 PM Originally posted by cosmo95m3
NICE story!!!!! BPU supras run in the 12's..Dont fuck with those cars if you hear BPU...Call AA and get a stage 3..
Or unless you drive like "Silver Streak" :eek: You da man !!!!!!!
Later, Yasir
Wasted M3 Driver 09-30-2003, 02:12 PM There are a few BPU Supra's that run 10's.
highboostingm3 09-30-2003, 03:11 PM Nice death!
I don't think the two should even be compared at all. The differences are so enormous it's just silly. There are many reasons why BMW owners are obsessed with the BMW. Not only do the M cars handle extremely well, but it's the look, the feel, the interior, the fact that there are less on the road, it's German...so many reasons. But love can be blind & ignorance can easily happen.
It's easy to FI an M3 & believe it can take on a Supra TT BPU just cause you are so in love with it you forget. But the Supra TT is an overengineered phenomenon. Unless a guy sinks a ton into a Skyline GTR, the Supra TT potential cannot be beaten.
I bet the 600 club M3 guys have killed a few of the BPU's out there. It must have been sweet as hell! But as for a single turbo Supra...just forget about it. A poor M5 guy got his ass handed to him in a very bad way one night that I know of.;)
audiophile 10-01-2003, 02:40 PM as the old saying goes; what is the same between a 500, 700, or 900rwhp supra?
they all run 10s.
lol good ol supra; nice death.
dubracr18t 10-02-2003, 01:01 AM Supra all the way :buttrock
t78supra 10-02-2003, 01:11 AM some of you guys just cant get over the fact that a car could be better than yours, yes most admit straight line.. but the stupid comment well get yourself a stage 3 blah blah blah.. Yeah whats that 10 grand for the AA kit and you will run high 12's. 10 grand will get you that single your talking about and run 10's.. BPU supras run low 12's with a good driver. The interior on my Supra is so much nicer than an M3 besides maybe the seats. When you sit in a Supra its like sitting in a cock pit everything is pointed towards the driver. And if I remember correcly an M3 pulls .92 G's stock.. Supra pulls .96.. yeah yours is more of an auto x.. but man give credit where credit is due.. flame away..
highboostingm3 10-02-2003, 01:54 AM Jon,
Exactly! You just shouldn't compare the two. I have both & there are things I love about the Supra & things I love about the M3. They are just two different animals. I do give huge props for trying though...and mad congrats to the M3 that beats one.
dave is cool 10-02-2003, 03:54 PM So true about the interior of the Supra, about it being like sitting in a cockpit. Everything is so angled towards the driver. Everything is angled towards the driver in an E36 M3, but even more so in a Supra. Damn, the Supra is an amazing car.
highboostingm3, what are the specs on your Supra?
dave is cool 10-02-2003, 04:31 PM I went to your website and saw the photos of your Supra, M3, and H2. Looks great.
And congrats on the engagement :)
highboostingm3 10-02-2003, 04:42 PM Hey thanks!!! I'll delete my last post then since it takes up a lot of space & it doesn't relate to the thread.
BrightRedOne 10-02-2003, 04:51 PM Quick comparsion of the E46 and MKIV...
Actually they are aren't all that different, one is a little more luxury concered but what
both 2dr/seats 4
both costed almost 50k new
Supra is on much older technology
Supra pulled a .98 in the skidpad, which I believe is better then the M3
Supra runs approx same quarter as the m3, top end goes the supra
No argument the Supra is cheaper to mod/responds better to mods
Looks/Sound are subjective
M3 takes the cake on class/luxury
Either could be a great daily driver.
With that said if I MKV come's out It would be overwith for the m3, not that it isn't already to many cars in the same price range distroying the m3 figures. Time for a V8, or FI I6
highboostingm3 10-02-2003, 05:22 PM Originally posted by BrightRedOne
Quick comparsion of the E46 and MKIV...
Actually they are aren't all that different, one is a little more luxury concered but what
both 2dr/seats 4
both costed almost 50k new
Supra is on much older technology
Supra pulled a .98 in the skidpad, which I believe is better then the M3
Supra runs approx same quarter as the m3, top end goes the supra
No argument the Supra is cheaper to mod/responds better to mods
Looks/Sound are subjective
M3 takes the cake on class/luxury
Either could be a great daily driver.
With that said if I MKV come's out It would be overwith for the m3, not that it isn't already to many cars in the same price range distroying the m3 figures. Time for a V8, or FI I6
Very nicely done! Although I can argue that the Supra isn't really a 4-seater unless you have 2 really hot little 90lb chics in the back;).
I do feel a HUGE difference when in the cockpit of either car. I know the Supra wraps towards the driver & all but you sit low & have the long & wide front-end in front of you. Maybe it would be the same if I had the same hp in my M3 but the Supra just seems a lot scarier than the M3. Passengers say that it feels like the car is just going to fly off into a wall or something. But I am sure that's just because it has a lot more hp. I mean it feels damn secure for the driver I know that.
Although with the M3 you look from up top & it feels much more secure if the tail slides out. It isn't much lighter so that's kinda weird(regarding the E36 M3). As far as speed the Supra 0-60 & 1/4 is supposed to be quite a bit faster, but throw $1400 at it & you have another 185hp. Then what can you do to the E46 M3? Chip, exhaust... You could turbo an E36 but that is over $11K & for that you aren't adding 185hp no way! AA Stage II is 300-310whp. Add the $1400 to the Supra & get 430whp! :eek:
I still think they are very different animals. Atleast once you open up the opportunity for advancement.
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