Oh you can definitely feel this upgrade. It's a blast to drive the car once the software is in.

Jeff

Hi Jeff,my car is back to normal after I put another 1/2 tank of Shell.Thanks.

>>Oh you can definitely feel this upgrade. It's a blast to drive the car once the software is in<<

Ok Jeff...Youre an honorable, intelligent man. You tell me. This is in response to LoveM3s comments that with his Superchips download, he can reliably feel a 2 to 3% power change. Do you think its possible to reliably detect a 2 or 3% power change, ie, a car that normally dynos about 280 to the rear wheels making a 5 to 8 hp change? Hell...if his car is like anybody elses, his car's power fluctuates by at least that much on a daily basis with or without the software change. Usually, general concensus is that a power change of this tiny magnitude is really not detectable by the average butt dyno, which we all know is unreliable at best. Besides, I think that anybody who claims that a 5 to 8 hp change is a 'Pretty Big' change on an engine which regularly dynos around 280 or so is speaking in hyperbole anyway. Im sorry, but instead of being a 'pretty big' change, I view a change of this magnitude well within the realm of normally seen daily fluctuations.

I think this much attention is well deserved since almost no other aftermarket performance parts yielded real horse power gain for S54s so far.

Paul, I think the gain is more like 15-20 rwhp. I would say, it should be detactable with a sensitive butt dyno. It should be pretty good upgrade considering hp per dollar is concerned.

Of course, my butt is rather insensitive so I do not know if it will feel any different with 15-20 rwhp gain...:D

Sean said it best, :) Paul

We know that there is atleast 13-17hp wheel gain depending on car. So yes I think you could feel that. Now if we look at max. power gain at high RPM we have seen around 20-24hp and that is extremely feelable. Then of course you must also take into account the speed with which the car now spools up. This will also increase the performance "feel".

I have never claimed nor would i that this feels like a 75hp shot of NOS, but so far every single car we have done has "felt" like it had much more than 5-8hp more. The lowest dyno to date was 12.7hp gain. The best so far has been 17.4hp gain software alone. Frankly with this engine 13-17hp gain with just software, leaving room for exhaust and intake mods is excellent. E36 M3's pick up even more percentage wise than S54 powered cars.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Jeff, email me your times for arrival:) Tomorrow is a mess, Tuesday is shaping up to be good:)

Hey there Matt,

Stil don't know what day I am coming. There is so muc going on this week. Might not be untill the end of the week. As soon as I know whats up I will email :)

Jeff

Notwithstanding the "feel" of the extra horsepower provided by Superchips, it is worthwhile to remind the followers of the thread that that remapping the throttle most likely is the largest contributor to the change in "feel" of driving the vehicle after the upgrade in the same way your car "feels" sportier/faster when you mash the sport button. The car should definately "feel" nicer to drive regardless of whether or not you can discern the extra horsepower.

Good points,

But if I had to pick one specific thing it wouldn't be the thottle maps as much as the new VANOS tming curve. ITs a bit more agressive and seems to make the most difference in vehicle drive.

Jeff

Originally posted by gork
Notwithstanding the "feel" of the extra horsepower provided by Superchips, it is worthwhile to remind the followers of the thread that that remapping the throttle most likely is the largest contributor to the change in "feel" of driving the vehicle after the upgrade in the same way your car "feels" sportier/faster when you mash the sport button. The car should definately "feel" nicer to drive regardless of whether or not you can discern the extra horsepower.

Long live Gork :clap:
I was going to point out the same thing.
I do think that much of the increased power feel is due to revised throttle position mapping.

When you press sport button, you feel like the car gets extra 40 hp, but obviously it does not.

I have read the entire post over a two day sitting since my life is somewhat crazy at times. What I have been most impressed with is Jeff's ability to stay 99% professional with the few members (skeptics) who constantly bombard him with negative comments and constant doubt. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Bottom line is just that. I have an 03 SMG M3 CABRIO and when time permits I will be ordering the Software Upgrade from Jeff. I don't need to sit here and question his every intent as a business person and to place doubt among the people who show some interests. When I order the software and if it doesn't give me the "buttdyno" increase, then I will quietly call him up and let him know that it wasn't for me. I do not need to post it publicly to try and destroy his professional image. What some of you fail to understand is that most enter a business with intent to sale a product they believe in and make some profit to keep that belief going. If the product they believe in makes them money then so be it. Don't be jealous he/she was the first, but follow in your own ambitions to be next. Don't lurk around the forums and post when you feel it's convenient to bash someone about a product you have no knowledge of or not happy with. If Jeff refused my money back or gave me a hard time about returning the product, then I would handle it first with him and if I can't get results, then I would post it to make sure he stood up to his claims. I am very interested to see what kind of gains, psychologically and mechanically, that I will feel once I have the software upgraded.

Jeff,thank you for your professionalism in the face of some harsh criticism. That kind of professionalism actually helped me in the decision to purchase your product in the near future. I don't need claims to assist me in deciding, I just want customer service if it doesn't work out. I feel that I can get that from you and that is all that matters.

I wish everyone had a open minded attitude with everything in life. Sometimes we miss out because we are overshadowed with doubt created by others. We spend countless hours waxing our cars, thousands of dollars in aftermarket wheels that claim to be "forged, spun forged, barrel rolled, etc.", exhausts that claim 5-8hp gains, and the list goes on and on. Yet when a wheel manufacture is off my 1 lb we don't bash the manufacture, or when an exhaust gives up a deeper sound, but not the hp gains they claim, we continue to purchase the product. So what makes this software upgrade any different? What makes the Dinan software with all its claims any better? Am I making a point here? Yes. Just buy(since there is a warranty) it if you are leaning towards it, if you don't like it, just return it. Spend the next day or so cleaning your car/cars, giving it the 5 step Zaino wax update and be back to normal soon thereafter. See no harm. Just time.

Of course I am just a simpleton.


Peace,

M3_CABRIO

Cabrio,

Thanks for the kind words. I feel very good about the progress in attitude we have made here and elsewhere on the internet. For the most part the nay sayers have been polite. For those who weren't I tried not to take it personally. I think I lost my cool a couple of times but hey even I am human :)

We are very proud to offer the money back guarantee simply because we are enthusiasts and because we trully believe in the product.

Well back to the grind,

Jeff

Cabrio:

Well said. Besides Jeff's professionalism, I'm impressed with the number of new people this thread has brought out to post. Including myself. I agree with you that what people get out of reading this very long thread, though don't post, is a sense of someone standing behind a product. It makes me, too, want to buy because I know that someone (Jeff) will back up his product with service and refund me if I don't like it.

When I posted before in Jeff's defense, I felt I wasn't alone in my belief that he didn't deserve to be shouted down or to have his ethics questioned incessantly, though there were times I wondered. Thank you, Cabrio, for a fresh eye on previous posts and confirming that others, perhaps many others, feel the same way.

However, you were much better at expressing it than I. :)

Reg

::Blush::

Jeff,

In a post just above you mentioned the E36 M3 has a greater percentage increase than the E46. Are you talking about your chip? Do you do chips for all E36's? I know this a bit OT but just curious.

Hi VT

We have software programs for all BMW's '96 and newer. One of the best parts of owning this company is i never have to turn away a BMW OBDII Owner :) Just as an FYI we also have software for all newer Mercedes, Saab's, VW/Audi 1.8Turbos, 2.6 Turbos, 2002 and newer range rovers, Ford Focus and Focus SVT and who can forget the super Mini!


The older 2.8 liter base block engine that became the 2.5 up to the 3.2 has more room for improvement with software alone than does the newer S54 bas block motors. This extra "headroom" allows the software engineers to go a little further with VANOS timing and the advance curve. The newer engine definitely makes much more total power but the older engine can be suped up to a higher percentage of improvement.

That make sense?

Jeff
Eurobahn

JEff,

I think I understand what you're saying. Basically, the old motors were not in as high of state of tune from the factory.

I wish you made a chip for OBDI. I'd gladly buy one to try it out. Kind of unusual Superchips makes stuff for E30's and not OBDI E36's. Oh, well.

Oh we do have the software for OBD1. It's just that so far we have not started the chip "burning" phase here in the US with that product yet. We so far are only tuning the cars we can program direct to the on board computer. But we are just about to open our chip burning center so stay tuned ! In fact we just received a bunch of equipment today to help get us up and running.

Give us a couple or 3 weeks to get up and running and we will be able to help you no problem.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Sounds good. Looking forward to it!

New Product information: Eurobahn will soon have our own high performance Big brake kit for the E46 M3 and all E46 vehicles. Kit will include 14" magnesium coated rotors and powerful calipers to match. Stainless Steel braided brake lines will be included as well. Target price $1895.00

Your choice of Slotted or Cross Drilled rotors! Email me to get on waiting list. We are only planning a limited run of these kits at first and we have several orders already! For now this is a bimmerforums members exclusive!

Jeff
Eurobahn
818-381-6335

>>Paul, I think the gain is more like 15-20 rwhp. I would say, it should be detactable with a sensitive butt dyno. It should be pretty good upgrade considering hp per dollar is concerned.<<

Jeff and SEan, I agree 100%. I think its possible to feel an excess of 5% hp, and from everything Ive read, it sounds to me like this is the only sw upgrade Id even consider if I had an S54 machine. My only dispute was with the author of the posts about feeling 5-8 whp on a 280 whp car, or 2 to 3%. This is going to be very hard to show, but in general, Ive heard from enough people having done enough dyno testing, plus my own experience, such that I believe in general, you need at least a 5% power increase before you really begin to 'feel' it in the butt, or elsewhere :) I knew all along you were achieving higher results; I was only responding to his posts.... in no way did I intend it to cast any aspersions on what your program really produces, which appears to be more than twice what the poster claimed...Congrats :D

Paul my brother,

No worries, I knew what you meant. Benson has a awsum looking and running car. He I think was basing the number on his expereince with other cars, If I had to guess based on his descriptions his car is probably making around 14-15HP at the wheels more than before we programmed it.

I have always wanted to ask you, is that tin foil covering the oil line to the blower or the bypass valve overflow?? and what is it for?

Jeff
Eurobahn
818-381-6335

Originally posted by paul e
>>Oh you can definitely feel this upgrade. It's a blast to drive the car once the software is in<<

Ok Jeff...Youre an honorable, intelligent man. You tell me. This is in response to LoveM3s comments that with his Superchips download, he can reliably feel a 2 to 3% power change. Do you think its possible to reliably detect a 2 or 3% power change, ie, a car that normally dynos about 280 to the rear wheels making a 5 to 8 hp change? Hell...if his car is like anybody elses, his car's power fluctuates by at least that much on a daily basis with or without the software change. Usually, general concensus is that a power change of this tiny magnitude is really not detectable by the average butt dyno, which we all know is unreliable at best. Besides, I think that anybody who claims that a 5 to 8 hp change is a 'Pretty Big' change on an engine which regularly dynos around 280 or so is speaking in hyperbole anyway. Im sorry, but instead of being a 'pretty big' change, I view a change of this magnitude well within the realm of normally seen daily fluctuations.

If you read my posts carefully.I said my car feels like it has gain 15-20rwhp.The 5-8 hp loss was when my car is in LA and Las Vegas with 110-120 Degree.I was saying my car lost 5-8rwhp when it's hot.Which means the chip is so sensitive to temperture. If you have read my other posts.It is very sensitive to gas also.Sorry for the confusion.

Good Lord we have hit 24 Pages!!!!!!

Jeff

So is this now the second book in the LOTC Trilogy (Lord of the Chips)?

Ha!!

Hell we are not even unabridged!

:)

Well al you Northern Cali boys and girls, Sias Tuning is now set up as a full Eurobahn dealer. Go and visit the Vic team and say hi. But not for 2 weeks as he left today for the Auto Cross world championship!! Good luck Vic, last time he came in like 5th or 6th!

Jeff
Eurobahn

Hello Everyone just wanted to say I am One more happy customer of Eurobahn , My ECU was programed last week and I can say the power increase is there , you can really tell the diference.

I dont know how much gain I got because my car is an Eurospec wit 343 HP but if I could reach to 350HP , I would say that was the best mod to Have.

Hey Jeff,

Do you think you could schedule me in within the next 2 weeks? because i am planning to get the new software within that time period. and im just wondering if its possible if someone can come to me instead of me coming there or sending my ecu to you guys.

Mike

Hi Mike,

I am sure we can work something out. Send me an email or give me a call and we can see what we can do for you.

Jeff
Jeff@Eurobahn.us
818-381-6335

Hi Bernie,

I am glad you are enjoying your software! :) If any of your friends want to do it let me know and we can arrange an easier method of transportation!!

Jeff

Thanks Jeff , I also would like to know if there was something else other than the ECU and the invoice?

Because in the ECU instructions they mention a key that keeps you original progran in case your software is errased or something like that.

I didnt seem to have anythin like that.

Thanks

p.s. People at M3forum.com are getting very interested on your software

Thread split at the request of Eurobahn... please go here for the first twenty plus chapters.

http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=101321

Thanks Mike! This will be easier to keep track of!! :)

Bernie, I keep the keys in our safe since you do not have a Eurobahn dealer near you yet. when we get a dealer set up in Mexico I will forward you the key or to the dealer if thats what you choose. We have done this in each new area we open up. This way the dealer has not just the key, but all the files needed either to restore the car to stock or to re-flash the performance files.

Jeff
Eurobahn
818-381-6335

Jeff: This may have been addressed in that other long post but I don't want to open that awful mess again.

What exactly does your software do? What specific parameters are optimized or changed to yield the power gains?

Dinan has recalled his software and his doesn't even claim any power gains.

I'm worried if all your software does is increase the rev limiter.

Brian

Jeff, I applaud you for maintaining your professionalism when dealing with internet dyno quraterbacks. The ones who don't want to believe will NEVER believe. I know when I'm ready to do an ECU upgrade (I work in WLA) I will be firing off an email to you. Some tuners who think they're god (may be, but not MY god) may not care about having a professional, customer oriented attitude, but they are also the ones who will not get any of my business. It's like getting poor service at a restaurant on top of their average food. Why patronize them again, even if everyone is knocking down their doors to eat there? Anyway, good luck, and as soon as I convince my wife, you'll be hearing from me!

...and even though most people want big HP figures, I feel a custom tuned ECU should give you some gains, but ultimately provide better throttle response, a smoother and more usable power curve in addition to the HP gains. Some argue "yeah, all most people are feeling the the re-mapped curve". Isn't that a big part of it? It certainly is for me.

After reading through all this the product no doubt is good and works. However any way you cut it the gains are nominal 2-3%. One most tracks suspension and brake upgrades will do far more to drop your lap times then the reprogramming. (Although driving experience is the most important.) Same driver same car your probably talking less than a 1/2 second, and thats being generous.

Do people really think this is worth blowing their extended warranty for this level of gain? Particularly when you consider the history of this engine.

Sedate,

Thanks for the kind words, it trully is a labor of love. All of us at Eurobahn really are nuts about German cars. We try to represent or build products that give the biggest safe bang for the buck. Our motto "Power without Problems"
is something we live by!

Hi Brian,

It is actually very easy to answer your questions. In a nut shell the software puts back into the car what the builder took out in order to make the cars more adaptable to bad car owners :) What does that mean? There are many compromises that have to be made by the car builder such as how bad the fuel is in certain areas and the owner who will not run recommended high octane. They also have to retard timing so cars will not accelerate to fast. Don't want grandma driving into a safeway now do we?

So by using your stock file we re-write your software to restore what the car was originally capable of. Then they go a little bit past that and make some alterations that increase HP, Torque and VANOS timing advance. The result of all of these changes is a very enjoyable new feel for your car. Snappier thottle response and a more agressive power curve.

Mab,

In some ways I can see your point. But your numbers are a little off. For example if you look at the cars where we made only 13Hp which are the lowest numbers we have generated so far on a car that normally made 270hp at the wheels then using those lower numbers we are still at over 5%. But on the cars where we made 16Hp we are nearly at 7% increase. Then if you add the cold air intake and an open exhaust then we have seen nearly 10%.

As far as warranty issues go, our software can not be detected in anything than the most deep scan. And if the dealer does a re-flash just to be idiots then we are able to instantly re-flash it back. Has not been a probelm so far :)

Jeff
Eurobahn
818-381-6335

Will over revs be stored and be detected by a dealer scan, if indeed the rev limit has been increased?

WE only raise the redline to 8250rpm, if a customer asks us we can not raise the rev limit. We have done this several times. However with only a 250rpm increase that is easily within the range of error of the tachometer in these cars. So while the data is stored, there is an argument to make there.

But if a customer is really worried aboutit then they can request no change to rev limit.

Jeff
Eurobahn
818-381-6335

We had a great drive today along the Pacific Coast Highway canyons. Fantastic bunch of cars and drivers today. Thanks to casper for setting it all up. Thought we would have like 15 cars we ended up with like 50. Everyone was a very good driver today with lots of fast cars!

Jeff
Eurobahn
818-381-6335

Jeff,

I haven't read part I of this "saga", nor do I think I'll have the time to do so. That said, I am curious about what you have to offer to us e36 M3 OBDII owners? Can you give me some details regarding price, specs, etc.

Thanks!

I'll grant that the percentages are low and the gains are greater. What kind of warranty will you offer that when my engine blows and BMWNA does a deep scan to find out what happened that you or the software company will pay for my new engine?

Obviously you won't, that's the point. The product may be great but the marginal gain is not worth the risk. This should be a major concern for those leasing. As many people who lease do so because the can't afford to buy, the last thing they need is a bill for a new engine. Now when the warranty has been passed that's a completely different story.

Hi Chris S.

We have software programs for all BMW's '96 and newer. One of the best parts of owning this company is i never have to turn away a BMW OBDII Owner Just as an FYI we also have software for all newer Mercedes, Saab's, VW/Audi 1.8Turbos, 2.6 Turbos, 2002 and newer range rovers, Ford Focus and Focus SVT and who can forget the super Mini! and Cooper S!


The older 2.8 liter base block engine that became the 2.5 up to the 3.2 has more room for improvement with software alone than does the newer S54 base block motors. This extra "headroom" allows the software engineers to go a little further with VANOS timing and the advance curves. The newer engine definitely makes much more total power but the older engine can be suped up to a higher percentage of improvement safely.

That make sense?

Mab,

I see where you are coming from to a degree. But I have also seen BMW try to get out of warranty issues if someone decided to go with larger wheels and tires or a short shifter or even the DInan packages. Yes dinan claims warranty on many products, try to collect without the he said she said between Dinan and BMW NA. In reality it comes down to the individual car owner and the specific product. Nothing we sell is going to damage a motor based on the product. Now if a customer over revs or mis hsifts then of course they have to convince BMW they didn't do that. The damage done due to the over rev would be there with or without a software mod. If a customer is concerned we can re-flash the computer prior to taking it to the dealer.

In the end however it's up to each customer to decide where they are comfortable. We certainly don't lie about warranty issues to customers. What do you do with the issue on your own car with those Stop Tech brakes you have. Those will violate warranty! And so will your new exhaust, kinda hard to hide those!

Jeff
Eurobahn
818-381-6335

Absolutely, no warranty claims on the exhaust system or the brake system from the master cylinder and on, or anything in the suspension. All have been changed and I have no warranty coverage on those components. That is the decision I made when changing. The cost however is not significant for any one of those items (in fact by upgrading/moding I've already incurred the cost).

My personal decision is to draw the line at the drive train because I have determined that the risk/benefit analysis does justify the mods. The decision process is one that everyone should cognitively go through. That is my point, informed decisions are always the best.

I agree that each customer must think carefully about all mods. I must say that for myself I think software is a pretty safe bet. We have never seen a car with our software have any mechanical problems. But I can see your point about being informed. One nice thing about why we chose Superchips was the length of time they had been doing this.

18 years is a good amount of time for product development. I was impressed with them having tuned nearly 200,000 cars. So I agree with you that informed decisions are the best and we feel we did when we chose Superchips :)

Jeff
Eurobahn Performance
818-381-6335

Hey Jeff-
I was interested in your superchip......right now i have the DINAN software upgrade. would i have to get my car back to factory spec b4 u can do the superchip upgrade? thanx in advance

henry

Hi Henry,

We can flash over your Dinan software but we get much better results off the stock programming. So if you can get your car re-flashed to stock that would be better. We want to give you the maximum safe power for your vehicle. Give us a call and we can chat about your car.

Thanks,

Jeff
Eurobahn
818-381-6335

Couple questions for you regarding OBD1 cars:

How's the chip burning plan coming?

And if you're going to do OBD1 chips, do you have any plans to support things like a 3.5" HFM, larger injectors, Schrick Cams, etc, or are you going to just stick software for "stock" engines?

We met at the San Diego dyno thing a little while back, by the way.

Hey there Croak,
I remember your car thats for sure :) We are getting very close to the time when we will be able to burn OBD 1 chips. Mos tof the equipment is already set up here and we are just waiting for our stuff from Europe. Most likely in a month we should be all set up.

We already have files for Cams and Euro HFM's so that won't be a problem. The injectors might be an issue. Once we are set up we can discuss that and see what our European guys can do for you. :)

Jeff
Eurobahn

Eurobahn is pleased to announce a new Dealer for the North East Bay Area!
Umnitza, famous for their fantastic DDE Lighting products has joined the Eurobahn dealer family. Currently there are plans underway for a launch day and dyno day get together. Special pricing will be offered as well as discounts on other Umnitza products. :clap:

For dates and more information, contact Matt, mattg@umnitza.com

Umnitza :atom
925.922.5777


Jeff Zusman
Eurobahn

Hey Jeff, what is the best exhaust for your chip, and how much does it coast?

We have had great luck with either Supersprint or the Eisenmann. But the software allows for a pretty wide range of adaptation for intakes and exhausts.

As far as price goes they range from 1200 to 2500 dollars. If you get close to a specific brand you like, I will get you a great price quote.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Hey Bay Area people,

BayBimmerz is going to have a drive this Sunday! Ia m going to head up there to go for a drive! If any of you want to go on the drive check in the California section here on Bimmerforums!

I hope to see some of you there!

Jeff
Eurobahn

Jeff is that shootout with evosport gonna happen?

Your asking the wrong guy Nyman. You will have to check with evosport for the answer.

Wow what a great run this Sunday! I lived in the San Francisco bay area for 30 years and never had been to that part of the area. Mostly deserted country back roads lots of twisties and some very nice high speed run straights. Thanks to the baybimmerz crew for a great day!:eyes1

Jeff
Eurobahn

For those who asked aobut pics of this last weekends awsum drive:

http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=1366460

Jeff
Eurobahn

It's been about a month since the SuperChip was installed.

Everything is running great.

Putting it on the Dyno Tomorrow.

I'll post the results.


FYI...
I ran a 8.45 on an 1/8 track. As well as a 0-60 in 4.50 with a Beltronics Vector FX-2

Take care!

heya Jeff,
I saw on the eurobahn.us site that you guys are getting a Washington dealership soon? Any idea when you'll be up here.

After all the positive feedback, and the money back guarantee I'm interested in the chip. But like others I'd prefer to have it done in person instead of sending it over the mail.

Also can you give us a hint who the dealership will be? I've had great luck with Strictly Motors in Bellevue.

Thanks,
Icehawk

I'm in WA. I'd like to know as well. Thanks.

Is there a certain way to dyno an M3? I'm not sure what the problem was, but the car cut off at 6500 RPMs. Did not matter what gear. Tried it 4 times with the same result. The only mod on the car is a SuperChip. The dyno was a DynoJet. Thanks

jekyll, try this thread for answers:

http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116516&highlight=dyno

Hi Guys!

We have been in talks with ECS Carb Dyno in Kirkland. I have worked with these guys for a couple of years and I like the way they do business. If that doesn't end up working out then we wil speak with Strictly as we hear good things about them as well. I should have some news on this front extremely soon.

Ah yes the on-going saga of trying t Dyno M3's. It has been hit or miss for us since the E46 came out. In general a 6 speed can be tricked into dyno mode by playing with the DSC switch. SMG's are less forgiving I am afraid. there have been many supposedly fool proof methods of getting them to run past 6500 but that never seems to work for more than one or two cars. In reality there is a speed sensor that will have to be tricked into thinking that the car is running on a street with the front wheels spinning as fast as the rear wheels. We are working on a patch that goes in between the wiring harness and the ECU. Hopefully we can get these made soon so people can dyno their cars whenever they want.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Hey Jeff:

Don't know how much you get over to Roadfly, but someone's happy with you.

http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e46m3/forum.php?postid=3967835&page=1

Interesting combination of software with the 3.91 diff. Do you change your program for the change in diff?

Reg

FYI...
I ran a 8.45 on an 1/8 track. As well as a 0-60 in 4.50 with a Beltronics Vector FX-2



8.45? dang i have the chip too and i ran an 8.7 on an 1/8 track. thats poo -=/ maybe your weather conditions are better or just a better drive :12:

Good question. I am interested in software, but will it have to be djusted if i switch to 3.91 diff?

We just did an M3 SMG for the guy over on Roadfly that Reggie was nice enough to lt us know about :) Thankyou Reg!

The only Problem that car has is too much power for launches. He is having to relearn his launch method to compensate for the diff ratio with the extra HP.

But I will say he is happy as a clam! Really beautiful car too got to love the red ones ;)

Jeff
Eurobahn

What do you guys think about the Kelleners software for the M3?:help

1300-1800 Euro's for the same HP as our software? Unless I read their web site wrong which is possible ;) Make sure you get a money back guarantee!

Sounds like they have another stand alone product that looks interesting.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Are any of you guys going to the Car Show in Newport Beach this Sat. ?

It's early in the morning but it sounds like a huge deal.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Originally posted by Jeff@eurobahn.us
Are any of you guys going to the Car Show in Newport Beach this Sat. ?

It's early in the morning but it sounds like a huge deal.

Jeff
Eurobahn
Hmm, haven't heard anything about this. I might show up if I can find out more info.

BTW, Jeff, any updates on getting a dealer in Washington?

Sadat we are still working to get a Washington Dealer. I hope to be able to make announcement very soon.

Look here for meet info http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=137422

Jeff
Eurobahn

so i see on the site that this chip applies to Z cars as well...any installs on z3's yet...just wondering if your results would be any more then the dinan chip i have...???

Hi Kenny,

We have done several 1.9 liter Z3's and 318's. So far I would have to say we are going to give you more power than the Dinan for sure. As we also advance valve timing and they do not. given your other mods, I think you will love the software. And if not, we will refund the money to you. I see you are in New Jersey, we will be having a New York New Jersey dealer within 2 weeks. Send me an email and I will forward your contact info to him!

Thanks,

Jeff@Eurobahn.us

good deal...sounds like a mod to possibly look foward to during the winter when im on break for a month off school...what did you say was the pricing again...just wondering so i can start contemplating funds...

I got your email and will respond through email. The 1.9 liters are fun to play with :)

Jeff
Eurobahn

Hi Guys,

Here is one we just did, E46 M3 Eurobahn Sortware and Eisenman Exhaust.

I hope you can read it!

Jeff
Eurobahn

ahh.. need translation of torque #s..

Yeah that can be confusing on the DynaPak. You take the torque total number of 1054.5 and devide it by the ratio of 4.490 and you get a torque of
234.9 up from 224.6. Since 262 crank torque is stock these numbers are very good. So we added 18HP and 10 lbs. of torque to the wheels. Not bad at all!

Jeff
Eurobahn

doesn't the exhaust alone add like 6-8HP and 5-8 lbs of torque?

Anyone confirm this??

So in retrospec, the software added 10HP and 5lbs of torque.. prob what to be expected from software alone..

prob see more gains with other parts in combination of the software...

Actually Joe we have not seen more than 4hp with that exhaust by itself on the dynapak dyno. I have heard you can get a couple more on a Dynojet but that doesn't relate to this test. However, you are correct that if you add a cold air intake there is another several HP to be had.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Jeff, im anxious to try your software, but i now have the "useless" Dinan software, and the Dealer that did it is giving me a hard time about uninstalling it, even if i paid them. So how can i go about getting my ECU back to stock parameters, so i can have your software installed? Is there anything you can do, or maybe have the dealer reflash it, if thats even possible.

Thanks alot..Walter

Hi Walter,

Any delaer can flash your vehicle back to stock. Go to another BMW dealer and tell them you are not happy with the Dinan programming. They can flash the car back to original and should do it for 1 hour labor or less. Most of the guys around here charge $75-90 to do it.

Let me know if you have trouble finding anyone in your area and I'll see if we can help.

Thanks,

Jeff
Eurobahn

Eurobahn is proud to announce our new East Coast Dealer, EFMod. Opening very soon EFMods can be reached through email @ wayne@efmod.com.

EFMod will handle Eurobahn customers from New York and New Jersey. :boink


Jeff
www.Eurobahn.us

Het JeffHow about CHICAGO when? :az:

Hi Joe,

do you have a great shop you can recommend? I am pretty particular about who we will let join our network. As you know from my background I do not want any customer service problems. If you have a good company in mind please forward me the contact information and who we should speak to. If your company becomes a dealer you will get something special :)

Jeff
www.Eurobahn.us

Originally posted by JoeCaMotto
Het JeffHow about CHICAGO when? :az:

YES! YES!! CHICAGO!!!

I would recommend:
Fall Line Motorsports.. They are the most recommended performance shop for BMWs as one of the owners is an E46 M3 owner as well. Another owns an M5.
I don't know of them personally but folks at eurotechnik.com (chicagoland bmw community) all use Fall Line..
www.fall-linemotorsports.com

I will email the contact info..

Jeff i would give www.EISENHAUS.com a try talk to Jason or John 630-787-1600 and tell them that Joe with the black M3 sent you.

Originally posted by JoeCaMotto
Jeff i would give www.EISENHAUS.com a try talk to Jason or John 630-787-1600 and tell them that Joe with the black M3 sent you.

Oh yeah.. but when I went there, they did not have any type of "shop" facility. They are strictly a warehouse/distributor.

We do have a couple of guys in our dealer network who do not have actual shops. They are extreme enthusiasts who work closely with shop sin their areas to do install work. They can do software work right out of their trunks!

Jeff
Eurobahn

Jeff,

I've tried to find an A/F plot for your software. Can you direct me or just post one?

Thanks

Alex,

We have got a lot of stuff packed up for SEMA but here is one that was sitting on my computer. The AFR on this run is pretty much the norm for us.

Jeff
Eurobahn

How about a dealer in the Dallas area?

This is a BIG BMW market. Right now I have to go to the Houston area to get the Eurobahn mod. Have to get there at 10am on a weekday. Can't do it from Dallas.

WE would love to be in Dallas. We were in discussions with one shop there but they did not meet some of our customer service standards. If you know of a good shop we can get in touch with, please let us know!

Jeff
Eurobahn

Originally posted by Laguna01///M3
Jeff, im anxious to try your software, but i now have the "useless" Dinan software, and the Dealer that did it is giving me a hard time about uninstalling it, even if i paid them. So how can i go about getting my ECU back to stock parameters, so i can have your software installed? Is there anything you can do, or maybe have the dealer reflash it, if thats even possible.

Thanks alot..Walter

That is bogus. It takes about 1 minute to de-install it.

I would talk to the owner/head manager at that place, if they still give you any grief report them to BMW NW and go to another BMW dealer to get it removed (if you don't want it).

Hey Jeff,

I might know a dealer in San Diego. =) That's if you want to expand to San Diego. Im sure there are alot of people down here that want to try out your software.

Try DTMotowerks at

http://www.dtmotorwerks.com/intro/

David Tan will be glad to listen to your proposal.

Originally posted by Jeff@eurobahn.us
Alex,

We have got a lot of stuff packed up for SEMA but here is one that was sitting on my computer. The AFR on this run is pretty much the norm for us.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Thanks Jeff. I just wanted to make sure the software did not lean the AFR too much.

Looking at the graph for the GC Gizmo, it seems to make the ratio a little richer. When you get back from SEMA it would be interesting to see what would happen with your software and gizmo combined.

Hi Alex,

One of our customers has ordered the Gizmo and we will do some testing on the Dyno to determine the before and after gains.

Jeff
Eurobahn

So Who is going to SEMA?

I hope everyone who goes will stop by our booth to say hello. It's always nice to put a face to the words. We will have on display our new big brake kits as well as some of our new supercharger systems. We might even have our new Carbon Fiber replacemen insert for the E46 M3 strut tower bar!!

Jeff
Eurobahn

Jeff,

I will be there probably Wednesday and Thursday. Perhaps I will try to look you up...

Steve

Steve,

Please do stop by I would love to chat with you again. It's been over a year since Curry Clash I think!

Jeff
Eurobahn

How much does it cost to get a 330i done?

What does it do other than increase hp and torque.

Have you seen the AA chip for the e46 330s?

:95

Well asside from improving the HP and Torque, the new software will much improve the terrible throttle response of the 330. With the fly by wire electronic throttle the 330 tends to be very jerky when you are shifting gears or accelerating through the gears rapidly :P. The Eurobahn software will smooth out the rough edges and make performance driving more enjoyable to you and your passengers.

The Bimmerforums member price for all non M BMW programming is 549.00 plus shipping or in your case drive time to San Diego as we do not have a dealer there as of yet.

Jeff
Eurobahn

hey jeff i might know a dealer that would probably support your software. i could ask them if they would be interested.

hey jeff i might know a dealer in san diego that would probably support your software. i could ask them if they would be interested.

That would be great Mike, I would love to stop needing to drive down to your neck of the woods everytime to program cars in your area :)

Jeff
Eurobahn

well the dealer i was thinking of is Group 5. i think you heard of them. im pretty sure. but i think they would be interested. i will give the owner a call.

no group buy for the e46 people???

No offense meant to anyone...

But if this is the same Superchips 10 years ago that posted *huge* hp claims for the Diamond Star Trios, "DSM", (aka - Eagle Talon, Mitsu Eclipse, and Plymouth Laser), then buyer beware! About 10 years ago, I belonged to a DL list much like this one. Bottom line is that Superchips claimed huge hp gains for the DSM cars. Although the mods did have hp gains, they came via VERY misleading means. The Superchips mod included adding hardware (bleed valves) to change the turbo wastegate into opening at a later psi setting (vs. stock setting of 11 psi, if I recall correctly) AND "reprogramming" the computer module. In order for them to reprogram the computer module, we had to take it off from the car and ship it to them (major PITA). ALL THEY DID WAS ADD A FREAKIN STICKER TO THE COMPUTER MODULE THAT SAID "SUPERCHIPS" or something similar. There was NO reprogramming of any sort. It took a few of us electrical/software engineers to figure this out and actually got the owner to fess up - lest a lawsuit... Effectively, the hardware costs $15-$20 to buy at Home Depot... Some people that went the Superchips way spent a couple of hundred dollars PLUS postage, handling and loss of their car use while the computer was being "reprogrammed". From that point on, I and others, swore against Superchips and would spread the word as necessary.

Now, having said the above, I am not saying that their current products do not work. But having had the experience with this company before, I wouldn't want to get burned twice...

Looking up the Superchips website...I verified that it IS the same Superchips company as 10 years ago...

I think you are refering to the US SuperChips which is now completely different that the SuperChips out of the UK. The UK website is http://www.superchips.co.uk/what.html .

Well if you are referring to Superchips.com, then you are not talking about Superchips Europe. However, I certainly understand how you might not be to thrilled with what happened back then. Superchips USA builds products for american cars now.

Eurobahn Superchips European programming has nothing in common with a "chip" that is installed in a car. We only do serial programming via the OBD II diagnostic port. There are no "add-ons" or hardware installed on the car of any kind.

Jeff Zusman
Eurobahn Superchips
818-381-6335

Hey everyone we are having a massive Spring blow out sale. We have teamed up with Vogtland to offer these wholesale direct pricing for a limited time, go to the Group Buy Page and check it out! They are going fast!

Jeff
Eurobahn

Jeff@eurobahn,

I'm having idling problems with your Superchip for my '03 e46 m3. After letting off the gas, the rpm often drops to approx 550-600 rpm (judging by the 500 rpm mark) then bounces back up to around 850-950 rpm (judging by the 1000 rpm mark). Even worst, some time the rpm drops below the 500 rpm mark, which almost causes the car to stall. Worst yet, the drops in rpm have caused the car to stall three times.

I would like to get this idling problem taken care of as soon as possible, however, I'm not completely satisfied with the performance of the Superchip either. And per my conversation with you prior to my purchase, you mentioned that satisfaction is guaranteed so I would like to get my car flashed with the stock program and my money refunded. Here's some background information, btw, I only use either Shell or 76 for gas (you also recommended them as well):

10/13/03 - at Meridian Automotive in Los Angeles; baseline dyno with stock program, 283.1 whp; Superchip installed and was told to allow 4-5 days for adaptation.

10/18/03 - returned to Meridian Automotive in Los Angeles; dyno with Superchip, 288.7 whp with repeated runs in approximately the same range; Meisterchaft titanium muffler installed, dyno with Superchip & muffler, approximately 287-288 whp, with the last run at 300.2 whp which I truly believe was a false reading by the dyno. As a matter of fact, you posted my dyno sheet in this thread on 10/22/03. If you look closely at the graph, you'll see a very strange upward spike which generated the 300.2 whp reading. Moreover, there was a downward spike which shows a drop in horsepower right before the upward spike mentioned above. Looking at the power graph, it was impossible for the reading to reach 300.2 without the upward spike. I was then told that the Superchip will need further adaptation to the newly installed muffler.

10/19/03 to current - the car is not any better and/or faster than it was on 10/18/03 even with the time allowed for adaptation to the muffler. Instead, it developed the idling problems mentioned above and have stalled the car 3 times.

Therefore, realistically, the Superchip only made 5-6 whp in my case. I have both softcopy (pdf) and hard copy of the dyno graphs if needed. Far less than the 12-16 whp gain claims I have seen on this thread, told by Meridian, and yourself. Plus the car is suffering from idling problems and stalling.

My intention of this post is not to bash Superchip, Eurobahn, yourself, or Meridian, but merely to communicate/share my real world experience with Superchip on a 2003 e46 m3. I'm sure others have had positive experience with the Superchip but I've had the opposite and would like to request a refund along with the stock program flashed. Please let me know the best mode of communication, if you prefer not to use the forum. I have your phone number so please let me know if you would like me to give you a call. If I don't see a reply by Tuesday, 11/18, I will give you a call to discuss (as I don't want to bother you on the weekend).

Your prompt attention to my request would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Tan

codycarrera - can you post up the graphs back to back?

Originally posted by 332 TMS car
codycarrera - can you post up the graphs back to back?

ditto..


Thanks for sharing your experience..

332 TMS car & MattMan - here are the two graphs that I have (both have a number of runs on them):

10/13/03 - stock, 283.1 whp, note the power curve went all the way to 283.1:

http://members.roadfly.org/tan03/Stock Software - 101303.pdf.jpg

10/18/03 - Superchip & muffler, 300.2 whp (not realistic), note the power curve didn't actually reach 300.2 except for the upward spike which generated the reading (also note the downward spike before the upward spike), runs before were closer to 288 whp:

http://members.roadfly.org/tan03/Superchip & Muffler - 101803.pdf.jpg

Hope this helps.

Tan,

I am sorry you are having difficulties and we of course will look into them. Please contact me by phone at 818-381-6335. I am surprised that since you have had my phone number all along you never contacted me with any questions in almost a month. Did you ever contact Meridian to let them know that there was an idle problem?

I have indeed seen your dyno chart, and spoken to Raymond from Meridian following your dyno runs. I was told you were very happy with your car's performance. I will have to check into why I was mis-informed.

As far as a refund goes, we will have to do a bit of investigating before I can make that decision. We have a 5 day money back guarantee that I told you about when we first spoke. As far as your questions regarding the dyno, Meridian Dynos vehicles all the time up to and beyond 700HP. As the Dynopak is extremely accurate, it will be interesting to see what problems if any have occured here.

Please contact me immediately tomorrow so we can begin an investigation right away. We need to examine your vehicle to see what is causing the low idle.

Jeff Zusman
Eurobahn Performance
818-381-6335

Interesting dynos..
Most people's "butt dyno" feel usually comes from a delta in the torque numbers from a certain RPM to the higher RPM. This creates a sense of pull.

The "hockey stick" torque curve from 3400RPM to 4300RPM doesn't typically look good.

However, as long as the SUPERCHIPPED TORQUE Curve at NO point goes BELOW the STOCK TORQUE Curve, then there's no real loss.

Instead of using traditional dynos, I would love to see a GTECH PRO reading. Typically the actual readings are off, but GTECH Pro is good for showing deltas when you add a modification. This would eliminate any issues like air flow, different dyno machines, and software tuning tampering artificially with "dyno tuning."

Hmmm, Matt thats an interesting suggestion. Perhaps we will need to get our hands on the G-tech to test this vehicle. I will be most surprised if this vehicle does not show the 300HP when it is again dynoed.

I am more interested in the idle issue. There are many mechanical changes that can cause this. How ever most of the idle problems I have encountered always center around the intake side at the MAF.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Jeff,

Thanks for your response. And per our conversation, I look forward to resolving the idling issue and re-dynoing the car to verify the 300.2 whp generated on 10/18/03 soon.

Tan

i remember Kevlar posting a thread about the same problem. and he doesnt have the superchip. i dont know what he did to fix the idle problem. you guys can ask him

We are starting to get reports about idle problems with certain intake mods that are popular right now. So we will do our research and then report our findings.

Jeff
Eurobahn

I am just curious about this money back guarantee that you say you have but now you say it is only for 5 days. You also say you must drive the car so that it can “adapt”. Do you stand behind the satisfaction guarantee or are you like Dinan. It seems that to get it to adapt and keep your money back guarantee you must drive it all time in the first 5 days.

Which screen are you guys talking about? I know that there was a dscreen that i took out of my stock intake, which i had to put into the gruppe m when i assembled it. Does this mean thta if i get the Eurobahn software, i will have idle issues? Please clarify this for me because i am considering the software fopr my car, but i will not sacrifice a smooth idle.
Thanx

What about the gruppe m intake which uses the stock screen of the car? Does that cause any idle issues with the software?

Gizmo + Shark combo is working very well for me. No idling issues at all. I think this is the way to go for the DIY type of person...

Mr. Loomis has emailed to me his desire to try for a more appropriate tone in our discussions. At his request his posts and ours in response have been removed.

Irrenarzt, I am happy that the Shark+Gizmo combination is working for you! Enjoy it. I have not heard of results with that combination so please keep us informed as to how it holds up :)

Jeff
Eurobahn

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Los Angeles, CA 90064
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Hey all it hs been a while since I posted in here! :rolleyes:

We have opened the new shop in between Culver City and Venice on Washington Blvd. We have a great 4 wheel dyno and a 6 bay service center. Our techs work on Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Mini, STi, EVO VIII, Miata's and Range Rovers.

Check out the photos below! Come and see us for great discounts on Suspension, Exhaust, Short Shifters, Superchargers, Turbochargers, Performance Software, Custom stand alone tuning, Cold Air Intakes, Our Own Custom Wheel designs, Brake Systems and any thing else that you can think up! :eyecrazy:

Make sure you mention you are from Bimmerforums for a special price! :alright

Jeff does the Eurobahn software adjust Vanos as well. Or is it just fuel and timing?? I am running SS headers and cats as well as a Borla catback. I contacted you a month or so ago and you were going to find out for me. Im sorry I havent had a chance to follow up with you. Thanks, I plan on having the Wash. Blvd CC, Ca shop do the install. Id like to get an answer though on the Vanos. Once again, thanks..Dave.

Jeff does the Eurobahn software adjust Vanos as well. Or is it just fuel and timing?? I am running SS headers and cats as well as a Borla catback. I contacted you a month or so ago and you were going to find out for me. Im sorry I havent had a chance to follow up with you. Thanks, I plan on having the Wash. Blvd CC, Ca shop do the install. Id like to get an answer though on the Vanos. Once again, thanks..Dave.


Hi Dave,

I have been watching the thread over on Roadfly :). Those guys are hard to please. The short answer is yes Superchips adjusts the ramp up rate of the vanos timing. From what I understand this means the speed with which the advance takes place. In addition to that they also adjust the air fuel ratio on many maps and increase the engine timing. WE remove the top speed limiter and if the customer wishes will raise the redline as well.

We also have the 5 day money back guarantee to make sure you are happy with the performance. Eurobahn is now fully open at the Washington location so please come on down and say hi!

Jeff

May stop by tomorrow... :D Dave

Great Dave, looking forwad to meeting you!!

We are having a huge grand openning sale!! Check out these prices

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=202740

Please help me move some stuff out of the warehouse!

Jeff
Eurobahn

Great Dave, looking forwad to meeting you!!

We are having a huge grand openning sale!! Check out these prices

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=202740

Please help me move some stuff out of the warehouse!

Jeff
Eurobahn


Great news Jeff,

looks like I'm bringing in my buddy with his E36 M3 and my other buddy with the WRX, these guys are in need of BBK.

Great Dave, looking forwad to meeting you!!

We are having a huge grand openning sale!! Check out these prices

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=202740

Please help me move some stuff out of the warehouse!

Jeff
Eurobahn

Jeff are you guys open on Sat.?? Dave

Jeff are you guys open on Sat.?? Dave

Yes the shop is open Tuesday thru Sat 9-6
:eyecrazy:

Hey Jeff, Lee Rutter here. I like that software, I got my new low et with it. 12.49 @ 109.3 mph Thanks Lee.

Fantastic time!

Great Driving! :alright

Jeff

WOW what a great day!!

It was a bit hot but still beautifull cars and it was great seeing so many of you guys out there. It was like old home week for Eurobahn out there. I have never seen so many cars we programmed in one place before :)

For all you guys who ordered the half off strut tower bar deal, they are all shipping today. If anyone else is interested in them let me know fast as they are almost gone and this will be the last time we get them! :eyecrazy:

Can't wait for Oktoberfest!

Jeff
Eurobahn

Hi Jeff,

I've been reading about your software and am very interested. I have the 04 e46 M3 and I was told that we have the CSL's cpu and the programming is different. I was looking into the Shark injector and was told by Turner that there is no model for the 04 because of the CPU, Does your's take this into account? Or is the 04 difference bullshit. I asked my service guy at the dealer and he said the programming is different and it is a new part number. Please help me sort through the crap. Also what day will you be at oktoberfest? I will only be there for the first 2 days but i'd like to stop by your booth. Will you be doing reprogrammings there?

Thanks

V

Hi Jeff,

I've been reading about your software and am very interested. I have the 04 e46 M3 and I was told that we have the CSL's cpu and the programming is different. I was looking into the Shark injector and was told by Turner that there is no model for the 04 because of the CPU, Does your's take this into account? Or is the 04 difference bullshit. I asked my service guy at the dealer and he said the programming is different and it is a new part number. Please help me sort through the crap. Also what day will you be at oktoberfest? I will only be there for the first 2 days but i'd like to stop by your booth. Will you be doing reprogrammings there?

Thanks

V

Hi V,

We are looking forward to Oktoberfest! We can most likely arrange a programming for you there. We need to have access to a phone line or internet line in order to get the files transfered but it should not be a problem.

Now on to the your questions. First the ECU number is different on some of the latest model BMW's. We should not have a probelm getting yours done as we have already done half a dozen '04s. The software load that is in your vehicle is NOT the same load as the CSL. The CSL has a totally different Intake plenum and air flow meter and many other parts including I am told a different Idle control valve. If you were to run a CSL program in a US spec car it would never idle properly and I doubt the car would even run.

We also have a few of the bimmerfest specials still going on! We have a complete front and rear strut tower bar kit that's 50% off!! Only 200 bucks! For you guys who love that Carbon Fiber stuff, we have a few Carbon Kevlar strut tower bars that bolt up to the original E46 M3 brackets!! These sold for 449.00 but while they last they go for 299!!.

See you at Oktoberfest!

Jeff
Eurobahn

Jeff anyway of getting around the 6500rpm rev limit yet on the 04 M3's?? Im kind of waiting until I can dyno all the way to 8K rpm. Any word yet?? Dave

Jeff anyway of getting around the 6500rpm rev limit yet on the 04 M3's?? Im kind of waiting until I can dyno all the way to 8K rpm. Any word yet?? Dave

Hi Dave, I was wondering what happened to you :) No, the only way to go past the 6500 limit on an '04 is with the BMW GT 1 Modic. I can try to arrange for us to borrow one, I will let you know.

I also want to announce the arrival of Eurobahn's newest performance tuner. Her name is Caitlin Jolie, she started on May 27th and weighed in at 8lbs. 3 oz. :) :buttrock

Wow, first off Jeff congrats on the newborn. Is it your first?? My wife is due in less than 2 mos. with our second child. Either way I hope child and wife are fine and Mazal Tov...

Jeff that would be great if you can get your hands on a GT1 Modic. I really want to chart the changes of the software for a before and after with and without the software. Please let me know if this can be done..Im itching for the software. Especially when I see the results Lee got.

Once again, congrats man... :drink1:

Dave

[QUOTE=Dave04M3]Wow, first off Jeff congrats on the newborn. Is it your first?? My wife is due in less than 2 mos. with our second child. Either way I hope child and wife are fine and Mazal Tov...

Yep she is our first, we waited very late in life to have her so she will probably be an only child. But she has cousins to play with. I will let you know on gettin a GT 1 to try with your car. But from the other 04's we have done I can say the performance improvements are about the same as the other E46 M3's :)

Jeff
Euroabhn

Hi Dave, I was wondering what happened to you :) No, the only way to go past the 6500 limit on an '04 is with the BMW GT 1 Modic. I can try to arrange for us to borrow one, I will let you know.

I also want to announce the arrival of Eurobahn's newest performance tuner. Her name is Caitlin Jolie, she started on May 27th and weighed in at 8lbs. 3 oz. :) :buttrock

Congratulation on your new born child Jeff. I'm sure Caitlin will be a joy to everyone in the family. Looking forward for her tuning my M3.