Well I'm getting frustrated trying to program my new remote I just got from Gault. I have an owners manual for a '94 8 series but the cars a '93. In the illustrations of the owners manual it shows the transmitter being a key with the transmitter in one. As you can see from the picture I do not have that transmitter.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/144543/2009_0608Image0001.jpg
So does anyone have any idea on how to program the transmitter? :eyecrazy

i guess you're the one who ordered the last one in North America!

I called up the other day trying to order one, and Charlie said that he just sent the last one out and now we're backordered... lucky you!

good luck programming it! i'll subscribe in hopes that i'll be getting mine soon!

Deep,
Are you certain u have the correct remote? The book on my 91 shows a switch blade type key, but I am told that I am suppose to have a 1 button key fob... I can assume that is what u have. Interesting note is that the key fob (key head) I have is exactly what is pictured in your manual... and maybe what you need. The previous owner said that the keyless never worked for him in his 2 years of ownership. No telling what may have taken place before him. The LED on my remote blinks as it is suppose to, but the car doesn't respond. Greg thinks that I have the wrong remote. Maybe we could work out a trade?

Can anyone chime in here about what remotes were used when... with refernce to having or not having a clown nose review mirror, or programing sensor next to the gear lever.

Cheers,
--mick

DFW 91 850i Bright "give me a ticket" red.

Well Mick, I gave all the pertinent information i.e VIN and option code, to Charle at Gault. He ordered what was correct for my specific application. Now to figure out how it works. Oh yeah, the manual is for a '94 850 so the key with the transmitter I would assume is for a '94.

Okay,
For the last time:
1991 and 1992 cars have the one or two-button remote transmitter FOBs
1993 (like mine) need the three-button transmitter FOBs (see pic)
1994 on up use the key with the transmitter in the head.

If you have an early model car, the Key head transmitter will NOT (like NEVER) work because the frequencies do not match and cannot be made to match.

Here is the info straight from the 1993 BMW 850Ci REMOTE CONTROL KEYLESS ENTRY SYSTEM OWNER'S MANUAL:

Button-1: to lock and unlock doors and trunk
Button-2: to arm the factory DWA security system and double lock the doors
Button-3: to activate and deactivet the panic mode function

IMPORTANT: THE BMW Part Number for this remote (1993 cars only) is: 88 88 1 600 292.

If you were sent anything else it is WRONG!

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss350/Gr8White/100_0374.jpg

Okay,
For the last time:
1991 and 1992 cars have the one or two-button remote transmitter FOBs
1993 (like mine) need the three-button transmitter FOBs (see pic)
1994 on up use the key with the transmitter in the head.

If you have an early model car, the Key head transmitter will NOT (like NEVER) work because the frequencies do not match and cannot be made to match.

Here is the info straight from the 1993 BMW 850Ci REMOTE CONTROL KEYLESS ENTRY SYSTEM OWNER'S MANUAL:

Button-1: to lock and unlock doors and trunk
Button-2: to arm the factory DWA security system and double lock the doors
Button-3: to activate and deactivet the panic mode function

IMPORTANT: THE BMW Part Number for this remote (1993 cars only) is: 88 88 1 600 292.

If you were sent anything else it is WRONG!

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss350/Gr8White/100_0374.jpgthis key looks the same as mine. but my fob is differant, 2 buttons. the fob looks to be 60mm x40mm x 12mm with a corner cut off.
the light on the fob comes on but the car won't respond. if i buy the same fob and program it will the windows go down if i keep my finger on the button? or shall i upgrade and get remote starting, the ks8 is 1991.
my 1993 breaker (now sold for restoration )it has a 2 button fob built into the key, that set up looks more up to date . any ideas on whitch way to go?

TXGR8White, thank you for the information. Does your 8'er have option code 301 Diedstahlwarnanlage Mit ZV? also, if I am having GM2 issues will that impede my programming of the Transmitter?

I always thought that it was the FCC ID# that is critical to the operation of the FOB with the car. The number should be on the back of the FOB and possibly on the controller in the car. The '92 FCC ID# is A269ZUA087. I think I found this number in my owner's manual.
LouM...

Yes I do have 301 with ZV (that's why the three-button remote)
Do you know how to correctly program the transmitter?

The control unit in your car can accept up to 4 different trnasmitter FOBs. When replacing or purchasing a new one, it is necessary to reprogram the control unit.





Coding the control unit requires the removal and reinstallation of the micro chip in the transmitter FOB. Here is how you do that:
Remove the top cover of the transmitter FOB (like you would to replace the battery)
Slide the chip socket holder forward.
Gently pull the old microchip out of its socket. This chip will be used for coding the control unit.
Remove the control unit from its bracket. DO NOT REMOVE THE POWER CONNECTOR! The control unit sits above the black plastic cover panel, driver side under the steering column.
While holding the control unit facing downward, remove the programming access cover. Insert the micro chip from the FOB into the Control Unit's chipsocket. Push the socket holder back to secure the chip.
Pree the RESET button. The status LED will flash twice to indicate that the code has been accepted. Repeat for each additional FOB.
Remove the micro chip from the control unit and re-install it back into the transmitter FOB
Renistall the control unit.
You should be good to go now.

You can also order the manual itself (for 1993 cars)
BMW Part # 90 88 1 600 002


http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss350/Gr8White/100_1033.jpg

Thank you so much for the detailed instruction!!! Now to get the remote from Charlie, that's if one's available!

Thank you so much for the detailed instruction!!! Now to get the remote from Charlie, that's if one's available!


The last I checked they are available. You can also get them on Ebay from time to time. AS long as they have the micro chip in place, you should have no problems.

Awesome instructions...

Well, got an email from Charlie...the 88 88 1 600 292 is no longer available from BMW :bawling. So if anyone out there has a spare....I'm in the market.

Try Bavarian Autosport, Also don't forget Ebay, Take a look at this one on ebay US, I could'nt hot link so here's the :Item number: 190313160401

Thanks for the info. I think it'll work.

It will work, as long as the chip is inside.
Some have been sold without the chip. TTTXGreg had to order a chipset as well for his.

Deep,
Soooo... the remote you received from Gault was the wrong one... Anyone know if that is the one I need for my 91... or is other optioning information required?

--mick

Deep,
Soooo... the remote you received from Gault was the wrong one... Anyone know if that is the one I need for my 91... or is other optioning information required?

--mick
Do you have the build sheet for your car?
See if you have build code 301 "Diedstahlwarnanlage Mit ZV".

Dealer insisted they had the right setup for my '91... charged me ~$136 per key...
of course they could never get them to work.

Most expensive set of extra keys ever - and still no remote.

Dealer insisted they had the right setup for my '91... charged me ~$136 per key...
of course they could never get them to work.

Most expensive set of extra keys ever - and still no remote.

MORITZ BMW of Arlington Texas did the same thing to me. They "swore" it was the correct deal. I took it to AUTOBAHN BMW in Fort Worth and they made everything right. The problem lies in the fact that you CAN order the transmitter keyhead key cut to your VIN - that is where they go wrong. The ETK shows the keyhead transmitter as a standard part on early cars, when clearly it is NOT.
What everyone should keep in mind is that most BMW dealerships have no clue about the E31, let alone what goes into one of these machines.

I would return the key for my money back since they cannot get it to work. It would help of course if you had the correct transmitter in hand to really prove them wrong, plus see the stupid look on their face when even they realize it.

it was years ago... I'm not even sure where one of them is anymore (not the most convenient "extra" key with that big transmitter head on it that can't function)

An expensive lesson learned...

Thanks to TxGR8white :buttrock I did a little more research and found this website: http://spotco2.com/1testt.htm It shows all cross references for all remotes. I guess it all depends on what your FCC code is (and what options on your car) as to what remote you need. The remote which I received from Charlie according to the web site say's it's for a '91 or '94, I thought the '94's had more than one button?, that's according to FCC ID's at least. I hope my folly will help someone else out there not make my mistake. Also, my remote is already sold. :D

Thanks to TxGR8white :buttrock I did a little more research and found this website: http://spotco2.com/1testt.htm It shows all cross references for all remotes. I guess it all depends on what your FCC code is (and what options on your car) as to what remote you need. The remote which I received from Charlie according to the web site say's it's for a '91 or '94, I thought the '94's had more than one button?, that's according to FCC ID's at least. I hope my folly will help someone else out there not make my mistake. Also, my remote is already sold. :D

1994's had the keyhead transmitters (can't always believe everything you read on the internet...)

:) :) :)

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:lol

Those guy's don't carry squat! :rolleyes

i just posted it b/c i saw it as a banner below the quick reply box in this thread...

Question geared toward TxGR8White, looking at my Security Receiver I noticed two things. One that the number of the FCC ID key Fob (A269ZUA070) is really hard to find and two, That there's a chip installed in the thing??!! See picture http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/144543/2009_0609Image0003.jpg
Do you think I can install this chip in a A269ZUA071 remote and have it work even though my unit is a A269ZUA070?

i just posted it b/c i saw it as a banner below the quick reply box in this thread...
That IS funny! :lol3

The alarm will NOT work with a chip installed in the control unit.

The alarm will NOT work with a chip installed in the control unit.
Could be one of the reasons it wasn't working. Do you think I can use that chip in the -71 remote? It's there probably from the PO twice removed.

worth a try. Oh, by the way, WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO TO YOUR THUMB????

That looks like a "home-improvement" accident!!!

worth a try. Oh, by the way, WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO TO YOUR THUMB????

That looks like a "home-improvement" accident!!!
That's what happens when your thumb gets caught between ball joint removal tool and hammer. It hurt. :eek:

hey imndeep!

i've got the remote! thanks!

now... ive been trying to initialize this transmitter for the past 2 hours...

it's either im retarded, or this car just doesn't like me.

how do you initialize the one button transmitter on a '91 850? build date 12/90.

i took the battery out and left it for one minute, put it all back together. then started the car, and held it over the red light to the right of the shifter, and held down the button, looking for it to blink 2x....

it only blinked once. the p/n on the back of the device is 88 88 1 600 205 and the FCC Id is a269zua087, the packaging has the p/n 82 11 1 466 989.

hey imndeep!

i've got the remote! thanks!

now... ive been trying to initialize this transmitter for the past 2 hours...

it's either im retarded, or this car just doesn't like me.

how do you initialize the one button transmitter on a '91 850? build date 12/90.

i took the battery out and left it for one minute, put it all back together. then started the car, and held it over the red light to the right of the shifter, and held down the button, looking for it to blink 2x....

it only blinked once. the p/n on the back of the device is 88 88 1 600 205 and the FCC Id is a269zua087, the packaging has the p/n 82 11 1 466 989.


UPDATE: The 1991 and 1992 units from ALPINE requirre a matching set of microchips - one for the FOB and one for the control unit...

i was under the steering wheel earlier and couldn't find the control unit.

is it in a different place on the '91?

i was under the steering wheel earlier and couldn't find the control unit.

is it in a different place on the '91?

Did you check on top of the cover that's below your steering wheel and above your brake / gas pedals? The Receiver will be on the top side of that panel.

yup... i was actually playing around with the newly installed steering u-joint and commenting on how MaximumPSI.com didn't use all the parts I supplied them with!

Sorry to revive this thread. But I think that I have some information to help the '91 '92 E31 owners. The FOB is PN: 88 88 1 600 205 (FCC ID# A269ZUA087) a single button remote. Per the remote manual, there is a chip in the remote that must match the chip in the controller. You used to be able to order them (the chips) as a group of 3. One for the controller and one each for the remotes. The PN for the chipset is 88 88 1 600 211 (for 3 chips) or 88 88 1 600 217 (for 4 chips).
Per Charlie at Gault these chipsets are no longer available. That sucks. I'm going to do a little more research and see what these chips are all about. They look real thin and may just be some type of signal routing card. Not sure yet.
I also scanned in my remote manual and now have it as a pdf. It's about 16Meg (Scanned as color). I can send anyone a copy if they need it. Again, this is for '91 and '92 E31s.

LouM...

hey lou!

i just got off the phone with charlie about an hour ago and he told me the same thing!

can you send me a copy of that manual? gimmiesummo72@aol.com

thanks!

Link: http://72.35.72.219/~library/14155/850/1992%20BMW%20Remote%20Manual2.pdf

I rescaled. And now it's about 2meg. So you should be able to download.

LouM...

yaaaay!!! thanks!

EDIT: I just put in a call to BMW NA and gave them p/n:82111467000. I asked them who the manufacturer was and what frequency it had. Hopefully they can get me that information!

Maybe someone on here has enough technical knowledge to speak about it intelligently and locate some through the original manufacturer or get them reproduced some how?

Mo,
Did you find the control unit in the car? If so, where is it? The manual says "it's hidden in the car." That helps.
LouM...

i found a diagram on wuffer's site.

i believe its either in the body panel (passengers side front fender) next to the DME's or behind the midrange speaker in the passengers side door.

yaaaay!!! thanks!

EDIT: I just put in a call to BMW NA and gave them p/n:82111467000. I asked them who the manufacturer was and what frequency it had. Hopefully they can get me that information!

Maybe someone on here has enough technical knowledge to speak about it intelligently and locate some through the original manufacturer or get them reproduced some how?

Hey SumMo, I would be wary of purchasing another remote until you find your receiver. The one I sold you should be the correct one for your year according to all the documentation I could find. The one I'm getting from eBay is a 71 FCC code while my receiver is a 70. I hope it's gonna work....

yeah i thought of that already... i called up charlie and cancelled my order of 2 fobs, since the chips are no longer available. im just trying to get a set of chips for the one you sold me 1st.

yeah i thought of that already... i called up charlie and cancelled my order of 2 fobs, since the chips are no longer available. im just trying to get a set of chips for the one you sold me 1st.
You mean there wasn't a chip in that thing? Man I tell ya, this is a pain. I hope theres a chip in the one I'm getting, but probably not.

there was a chip... but you also need a corresponding chip in your control unit.

there was a chip... but you also need a corresponding chip in your control unit.
Hey SumMo, you sure about that? remember what TxGR8White said: The alarm will NOT work with a chip installed in the control unit.
Might want to consult (PM) with him about your situation. He might be referring to '93's only, who knows with these crazy cars?

From what I remember, you only need the chip in the remote to make it work.
If you want more than 1 remote, they both need the exact same chip (this is why you can buy sets of them)

you need to install the chip from the remote into the control unit and initialize it.

then replace that same chip back into the remote and sync.

hmmmm...

maybe i read it wrong...

i'll try that when i get a chance!

I've been reading over this read and basically if you own a 91-92 car you are out of luck if you need a new remote or? This was one thing I was looking to buy for my car next and it's a 91. Should I be looking into custom or can it still be obtained?

you're pretty much SOL for now.

according to charlie, there are no more new fobs in NA and they are backordered in ewwwrope. and the chips sets are now discontinued.

Dang I was going to go for a full OEM look. Does anyone know where I can atleast purchase the switchblade key that would work for the 8? (The normal key I have now looks really plain IMO)

Yeah. It seems like the alarm systems change with the newer years. Looks like '93 and newer can program the FOB chip via the control unit. 91-92 need matching chips. SomMo has a request to BMWNa for information on the chip.
My FOB chip has numbers on it and a blob of stuff covering the circuit. I did a quick resistance measurement of the runs and see a resistance on a few of them. Not shorted like I was hoping. Next step would be to try to remove the blob and see what's under there. Wonder if ALPINE can help?
I'll try to find out what the FCC ID# means. We're still looking for the location of the control unit (for '91-'92s) in the car. TxGr8 has identified the '93 location.
LouM...

Dang I was going to go for a full OEM look. Does anyone know where I can atleast purchase the switchblade key that would work for the 8? (The normal key I have now looks really plain IMO)I have one available...

Fwiw, For $350.00 you guys could get a much better 2 way alarm like me, Installed in 1.5 hours, Pops the trunk, Opens and closes everything, Lets me know what caused the alert, Too many options to list, Much nicer and up to date imo...

the useless CSR at BMWNA gave me this email address to contact BMW Corporate... too bad i don't know german...

presse@bmw.de

that or contact alpine.

he said that all information pertaining to the unit must have been purged from the system, all they have information for is 1999 and up.

Mo, most Europeans speak and understand English almost perfectly, so don't worry about emailing them in English.

Steffen, I have a remote just like the one you posted pics of. It happens to eat batteries very quickly. Any idea what goes wrong with these?

Added for Mo - the NJ CCA chapter has their annual meeting at BMWNA HQ in Woodcliff Lake tomorrow.

Recommend that you go and ask them to help you or get you in touch with someone who can track down a few spare units in the inventory.

hey lad!

I missed you! where have you been?

I emailed them in english... hopefully they'll get back to me!

Still waiting for my Wokke2 ride ;-)

Just for fun. I went to the APLINE website and browsed around and found a supplier caller HERMAN Electronics in Florida that "is supposed to" provide support/parts for older ALPINE equipment. I contacted them and asked a few questions and gave them some info to see what they could do.
I would be willing to go with a newer system. But not too confident about the way they woud install it. The wiring on these cars is already complex enough and then to have someone spilce something else in on top of this just scares me.
Besides, I'm trying to keep mine as original as possible.
LouM...

Still waiting for my Wokke2 ride ;-)

let me know the next time you're in town and we'll set up some time to take a spin!

i'm getting my windshield replaced on the 27th supposedly.

Just for fun. I went to the APLINE website and browsed around and found a supplier caller HERMAN Electronics in Florida that "is supposed to" provide support/parts for older ALPINE equipment. I contacted them and asked a few questions and gave them some info to see what they could do.
I would be willing to go with a newer system. But not too confident about the way they woud install it. The wiring on these cars is already complex enough and then to have someone spilce something else in on top of this just scares me.
Besides, I'm trying to keep mine as original as possible.
LouM...

cool! let us know what they can do!

im afraid to go aftermarket just b/c of the same reason!

Steffen, I have a remote just like the one you posted pics of. It happens to eat batteries very quickly. Any idea what goes wrong with these?

Check to see if the buttons are sticking. I think you will need to open it up and check it out.

ok this is what i found underneath the kickpanel on the passengers side (where the module for the infrared keyless locking system is supposed to be found:

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m249/GimmieSumMo72/850i/85785aed.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m249/GimmieSumMo72/850i/215655b3.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m249/GimmieSumMo72/850i/87a62b4e.jpg

it either looks like mine didn't have one to begin with, or someone took it out.

yeah i did end up with spare parts after i was finished putting it back together.

oh yeah... so i guess i might have a key fob for sale!

Seems like an awful lot of work if you had to put a new chip in. The first pic is a bit blurred. What are you showing?
There should have been two connectors hanging around not hooked up. One for the antenna and the other for all of the input/output/power. Also a connector ID. Did you see any of that?
LouM...

Be careful, most anything that is painted ORANGE in the car is part of the SRS system, i.e. airbag sensors,triggers, etc.
What is pictured looks like the first generation airbag module.

SumMo, If i were you I would go to www.8coupe.com give Jud your VIN and he can run a report on your car and tell you what your car's build options were. That way you know for absolutely sure what you started with.

what should i be looking for on the build sheet that would tell me that mine was equipped with a keyless entry system?

the closest thing to that i see on the build sheet is:
301 DIEBSTAHLWARNANLAGE MIT ZV

what should i be looking for on the build sheet that would tell me that mine was equipped with a keyless entry system?

the closest thing to that i see on the build sheet is:
301 DIEBSTAHLWARNANLAGE MIT ZV
Well, that's it! Your suppose to have the same thing I have. look at the email I sent you and see if you can find that receiver somewhere in that beast of yours. :eyecrazy

can you resend? gimmiesummo72@aol.com

can you resend? gimmiesummo72@aol.com
When I get home, I'm at work now, I'll send you the picts again tonight. :D

Well, I went through APLINE to Herman Electronics. Told them the story and provided some part numbers on the FOB (a BMW part number) and some numbers I saw on the chip. Offered to provide some pictures.
They said sorry, they no longer support this item. Inidcated if I could come up with an ALPINE part or model number that may be able to do something. But other than that... No Dealio.
That sucks.
LouM...

Well, a well deserved update on my side of the fence. I have success! I received my remote in the mail and it worked with the chip that was in the receiver. I guess I was fortunate that there was a chip still there. Hopefully, SumMo will find a chip in his receiver. I took the chip out of the transmitter I received and tried to initialize it in the receiver by inserting the chip and pressing the small little push switch next to it. I removed the chip put it back in the transmitter and tried it, nothing happened. So, I took apart the transmitter again and replaced it with the one I found in my receiver and it worked! Also I tried an experiment by putting the chip that was in the transmitter in the receiver to see if it would work with the chip in it, and it does. So, I just left the new chip in the receiver and took the one that was in the receiver and left it in the transmitter (key fob). I feel great because I actually had success. I wish anyone out there luck with your endeavors. :woot:

HEY GUYS!

if you need the chip set please read here! good luck!



From: Davis Lugo [mailto:davis.lugo@openroad.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Open Road BMW of Edison Parts Request



my computer shows one in jacksonville florida bmw wharehouse....just to let you know this part is dicontinued.....when and if you order it,they might go to the shelf and it my not be their. but the part has to be ordered to get the ball rolling.if you wish to call us ask for davis 732-839-4528 i will be here saturday from 8:30 am to 3pm...if not have a great holiday.



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A Open Road BMW of Edison Parts customer has visited your website and is interested in the following: Here is the information on they sent:Name:Email:Day Phone:Year:1991Make:BMWModel:850iVin:CB73008Commen ts:

82111467000 4 Pc. Transmitter chip kit. I need this kit to reprogram the keyless entry system on the vehicle.




i do have a 1 button key fob that i need to get rid of! PM me!

Well, a well deserved update on my side of the fence. I have success! I received my remote in the mail and it worked with the chip that was in the receiver. I guess I was fortunate that there was a chip still there. Hopefully, SumMo will find a chip in his receiver. I took the chip out of the transmitter I received and tried to initialize it in the receiver by inserting the chip and pressing the small little push switch next to it. I removed the chip put it back in the transmitter and tried it, nothing happened. So, I took apart the transmitter again and replaced it with the one I found in my receiver and it worked! Also I tried an experiment by putting the chip that was in the transmitter in the receiver to see if it would work with the chip in it, and it does. So, I just left the new chip in the receiver and took the one that was in the receiver and left it in the transmitter (key fob). I feel great because I actually had success. I wish anyone out there luck with your endeavors. :woot:

Thanks for the follow-up! I've been watching this thread with great interest. I've been in the same boat; no key fobs. I went to the dealer, told them that I wanted to order a fob. They told me that I could get a key with the buttons. You all know the story from here, the key wouldn't initialize etcetra, etcetera, etcetra. The dealer did refund me the cost of the incorrect key since I had told the parts guy that I didn't think the key would work.

Anyway, thanks to this post my fob now works. This forum is great.

I think I stumbled across my receiver unit while trying to sort my stereo wiring mess. I have the DIEBSTAHLWARNANLAGE MIT ZV option on my Dec 1990 build car, and I found a shoddily wired box sitting on a tray by the steering column on my RHD. Part # 82 119 418 403. Here's a pic box.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294842&stc=1&d=1246344953) The wiring doesn't look very "factory" mess2.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294843&stc=1&d=1246344953). I also stumbled across another mystery silver box attached under the right hand rear window silverbox.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294840&stc=1&d=1246344953). Which was wired to a Lion battery which was screwed to the rear speaker pod battery.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294841&stc=1&d=1246344953). Is this normal? Is it all related to the remote entry alarm? I took the box out that looks like the receiver and there was no obvious way of changing a chip, am I getting the box confused with something else?

I think I stumbled across my receiver unit while trying to sort my stereo wiring mess. I have the DIEBSTAHLWARNANLAGE MIT ZV option on my Dec 1990 build car, and I found a shoddily wired box sitting on a tray by the steering column on my RHD. Part # 82 119 418 403. Here's a pic box.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294842&stc=1&d=1246344953) The wiring doesn't look very "factory" mess2.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294843&stc=1&d=1246344953). I also stumbled across another mystery silver box attached under the right hand rear window silverbox.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294840&stc=1&d=1246344953). Which was wired to a Lion battery which was screwed to the rear speaker pod battery.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294841&stc=1&d=1246344953). Is this normal? Is it all related to the remote entry alarm? I took the box out that looks like the receiver and there was no obvious way of changing a chip, am I getting the box confused with something else?

The receiver in my car (LHD) is attached to the panel beneath the steering column and above the brake, clutch, and accelerator pedals. The receiver has one multi-pin connector and an antenna wire plugged into it. When I removed it from the bracket holding it in place and flipped it over there is a removable panel. Remove that panel and the chip is immediately visable. Since your car is RHD perhaps the receiver is on the passenger side of the vehicle underneath the glove box. The box in your picture looks like it has something to do with the stereo system.

I think I stumbled across my receiver unit while trying to sort my stereo wiring mess. I have the DIEBSTAHLWARNANLAGE MIT ZV option on my Dec 1990 build car, and I found a shoddily wired box sitting on a tray by the steering column on my RHD. Part # 82 119 418 403. Here's a pic box.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294842&stc=1&d=1246344953) The wiring doesn't look very "factory" mess2.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294843&stc=1&d=1246344953). I also stumbled across another mystery silver box attached under the right hand rear window silverbox.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294840&stc=1&d=1246344953). Which was wired to a Lion battery which was screwed to the rear speaker pod battery.jpg (http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=294841&stc=1&d=1246344953). Is this normal? Is it all related to the remote entry alarm? I took the box out that looks like the receiver and there was no obvious way of changing a chip, am I getting the box confused with something else?
NickF, I think your getting your box confused with something else as you say. This is what mine looks like again, mines a '93 and I believe that Coupenut's 8'er is a '92. Check on your drivers side panel like this thread has been mentioning. Included is another picture of what I think it should look like. But I could be wrong for earlier or later models than mine :dunno
It seems logical that they would all be the same to keep production costs down but these are one off BMW's of limited production. Another thing is run your numbers through realoem.com. It will tell you what your part is, your part number is not complete so it didn't show up anything on my end. Good luck and don't quit tell you fix it. :D

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/144543/2009_0630Image0003.jpg

NickF, I think your getting your box confused with something else as you say. This is what mine looks like again, mines a '93 and I believe that Coupenut's 8'er is a '92. Check on your drivers side panel like this thread has been mentioning. Included is another picture of what I think it should look like. But I could be wrong for earlier or later models than mine :dunno
It seems logical that they would all be the same to keep production costs down but these are one off BMW's of limited production. Another thing is run your numbers through realoem.com. It will tell you what your part is, your part number is not complete so it didn't show up anything on my end. Good luck and don't quit tell you fix it. :D

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/144543/2009_0630Image0003.jpg

I'm curious about the second wire running out of your receiver. Do you know what its for or where it goes? My car; yes its a 92 only has the antenna plugged into it, and the electrical connector is different.

I'm fairly sure that box is related to remote entry or the alarm in some way - it has aerial wire for example. The part # looks complete but i too have found no reference to it on realoem. The unit is stamped Nov 1990 so I suspect in 1990 that remote entry was a dealer or port fit option and not done at the factory. This might explain the differences in systems between a UK car and US model and the somewhat suspect looking wiring. Looks like i'm on my own looking for a transmitter :rolleyes.

I have paperwork that indicates I have a Lo-Jack system in my car. Not sure where it is or what it looks like. The pamphlet says that it's hidden in the car somewhere. I don't have it turned on.
Maybe it's something like that.
LouM...