For example, if I want to change the color of a black 850 to a Mauritiusblau (51 91 1 052 055), Orientblau (51 91 1 052 238) or Biarritzblau (51 91 1 052 507), how will it impact the value of the car? How about Arktisblau (51 91 1 851 635) as there is only 1 of this color 850 in the US?

The paint job will be done via the BMW dealer and will be of the highest quality.

OEM Color change always devalue.

For example, if I want to change the color of a black 850 to a Mauritiusblau (51 91 1 052 055), Orientblau (51 91 1 052 238) or Biarritzblau (51 91 1 052 507), how will it impact the value of the car? How about Arktisblau (51 91 1 851 635) as there is only 1 of this color 850 in the US?

The paint job will be done via the BMW dealer and will be of the highest quality.

Hopefully you are not looking to sell the car in the future to try and gain a profit out of it, stay in for the long run:D

Seriously though, it depends on the type of car and the croud that you are trying to sell it to. For instance, COLLECTORS look at the freshly, unoriginal painted Camaros and Mustangs on Barrett Jackson, which always go for lower that the last one that left the block, reguardless of the condition and specifications. But as always, people understand that the OEM factory paint isn't going to look its best, so they expect it to be repainted, but in the original color. Enthusiast usually look at what fit their needs and expectations, so they usually can care less if the cars not in the original color.

Your looking, at the least, a $6,000 job for it to be done correctly, so why not either sell your black one and buy the Euro spec Mauritiusblau/ blue interior car? If you don't know the site (who doesn't know Wuffers site) I can give you the price and info on federalizing the car on Private Message, or just keep your black car and recondition it. But, its your car so do as you wish. Good luck on your choice.

Faisal, I'm on the fence like you. I would agree with 8eights strictly speaking in a purist sense. CC90103 is a good car but it's silver/gray.. IMO the most boring color combo out there. I love the Mauritis and Orient blues, but the Glacier would be a subtle change and contrast OK I think with the dull silver engine bay.... as I wouldn't strip the car down that far to get a that complete of a job. Hard to say how it would affect resale, but that's not really a factor.

In the collection world a collectible is worth more money with original color, fade and imperfections. Out of the collection world, change of color makes people question if there was an accident which would warrant a complete color change do to high cost. But to each is own I guess, its your car and if you want to invest in that, only value that matters is yours.

Faisal, it brings a huge smile to my face knowing you'll be rejoining us soon! However, if you're going to go all out... why not go by way of BMW Individual? Depending on your dealer it would be fairly easy to set up, just very expensive as I'm sure you know. Honestly tho, it is your car. If you intend to keep it (or make it your CSL project which would add value) then do what you want :).

I have been quoted around $10k by 3 differnet local shops for a top notch paint job of the entire car. For my DD, thats about what the car is worth right now. If it were me, I'd just wait until I found one in the color that I was looking for. There are always 7-20 of them on ebay at a time.

Good luck,

-JRW

Personally I guess it would devalue the car for some potential buyers, but not everybody would be so concearned esp. if the quality is fabulous.

Out of curiosity, will you be crazy enough to paint the engine bay too? :D I probably would, but I'm crazy (like many E31 owners) :lol3

Is there a picture of Arktisblau? I am curious what that looks like as well as other extremely rare colors for e31s!?

Is there a picture of Arktisblau? I am curious what that looks like as well as other extremely rare colors for e31s!?


+1!

subscribed. Keep us posted. I say do it if you are doing it right. Factory right that is.

Get the Ruby Black Metallic by BMW Individual :drool: ...

to me it depends on how much you paid for the car.
i bought mine for 6 grand. and with the paint job i got , i have
something very unique. maybe even so unique that someone would like
to pay a huge unique premium. if not, i can still paint the car back
to the original color or sell her for parts.
but, if you buy the car with making a profit down the road in mind,
then you more than likely bought the wrong car, as maintenance alone will
eat up your profit. so paint it if you feel like it. it's your car.
and it should be in a color you enjoy.

Is there a picture of Arktisblau? I am curious what that looks like as well as other extremely rare colors for e31s!?
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e110/mt33215/Code45.jpg

Get the Ruby Black Metallic by BMW Individual :drool: ...


Pics please!

:help

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e110/mt33215/Code45.jpg

Nice color, but damn, those rear parking sensors look terrible :confused

Pics please!

:helphttp://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e110/mt33215/rubinschwarz.jpg

Nice color, but damn, those rear parking sensors look terrible :confused +1

I am in love with that color Mark, beautiful pic. I've seen a new F01 750 in it... I drooled irl ;).

Arktisblau what an amazing color!

Thanks Mark! Looks sweet!

For example, if I want to change the color of a black 850 to a Mauritiusblau (51 91 1 052 055), Orientblau (51 91 1 052 238) or Biarritzblau (51 91 1 052 507), how will it impact the value of the car? How about Arktisblau (51 91 1 851 635) as there is only 1 of this color 850 in the US?

The paint job will be done via the BMW dealer and will be of the highest quality.

Detailed answer to your post at Roadfly here:
http://forums.roadfly.com/forums/bmw/bmw-8-series-e31/9262301-1.html


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e110/mt33215/Code45.jpg

Arktisblau what an amazing color!

Unfortunately, this isn't the Arctic Blue colour 8er. It is in fact Aqua Metallic (code 451) (http://www.8coupe.com/Production/Colors/ExteriorColors/tabid/91/agentType/View/PropertyID/102/language/en-US/Default.aspx)(click on link). This 1998 M62 840CiA RHD BMW Individual was a very involved order from BMW Individual:


Colour: AQUA-METALLIC (code 451, old code FE 86-50AK BASF)



Upholstery: SONDERPOLSTERUNG/OHNE FARBANGABE (Z1XX)

Two-tone
Leather Nappa Champagne (nr. 2 237 193)
Leather Nappa Schwarz (M5SW)





Prod. date 1997-12-17

The seller at one time did state it was Arctic Blue, but he also changed it to the correct colour in other advertisements. The pictures the seller took of the car are terrible.

The Arctic Blue (code 045) colour swatch is here (http://www.8coupe.com/Production/Colors/ExteriorColors/tabid/91/agentType/View/PropertyID/76/language/en-US/Default.aspx) along with details as to where the sole car painted in this colour resides. The Arctic Blue M70 850CiA vehicle is in the Los Angeles area and was recently sighted by an 8er enthusiast.

Is there a picture of Arktisblau? I am curious what that looks like as well as other extremely rare colors for e31s!?

Yes, many representative cars in all colours are listed at the Registry. We have a major update coming with colour combinations in the queue and rare interiors with pictures.
To get started, see: http://www.8coupe.com/color.htm

Click on the colour swatch for details about the colour and pictures of cars. For those that don't have pictures yet and your car is in that colour and you want it pictured as the representative 8er example, you're welcome to contact the team to add the picture.

If your going to have a cool car like an 8, stand out! Mmmm... Hellrot (http://www.8coupe.com/Production/Colors/ExteriorColors/tabid/91/agentType/View/PropertyID/21/language/en-US/Default.aspx). :)

http://www.8coupe.com/Portals/0/PropertyAgent/431/Images/72.jpg

Actually, I sort of like Lila (http://www.8coupe.com/Production/Colors/ExteriorColors/tabid/91/agentType/View/PropertyID/41/language/en-US/Default.aspx)....

http://www.8coupe.com/Portals/0/PropertyAgent/431/Images/123.jpg

This Santorinblau (http://www.8coupe.com/Production/Colors/ExteriorColors/tabid/91/agentType/View/PropertyID/117/language/en-US/Default.aspx) also remind me of Laguna Seca Blue, which I love from the M3s:

http://www.8coupe.com/Portals/0/PropertyAgent/431/Images/260.jpg

Great site 8coupe!! Keep up the excellent work.

Detailed answer to your post at Roadfly here:
http://forums.roadfly.com/forums/bmw/bmw-8-series-e31/9262301-1.html






Unfortunately, this isn't the Artic Blue colour 8er. It is in fact Aqua Metallic (code 451) (http://www.8coupe.com/Production/Colors/ExteriorColors/tabid/91/agentType/View/PropertyID/102/language/en-US/Default.aspx)(click on link). This 1998 M62 840CiA RHD BMW Individual was a very involved order from BMW Invidiviual:


Colour Aqua-metallic (code 451, old code FE 86-50AK BASF)


Upholstery SONDERPOLSTERUNG/OHNE FARBANGABE (Z1XX)

Two-tone
Leather Nappa Champagne (nr. 2 237 193)
Leather Nappa Schwarz (M5SW)



Prod. date 1997-12-17
The seller at one time did state it was Artic Blue, but he also changed it to the correct colour in other advertisements. The pictures the seller took of the car are terrible.

The Artic Blue (code 045) colour swatch is here (http://www.8coupe.com/Production/Colors/ExteriorColors/tabid/91/agentType/View/PropertyID/76/language/en-US/Default.aspx) along with details as to where the sole car painted in this colour resides. The Artic Blue M70 850CiA vehicle is in the Los Angeles area and was recently sighted by an 8er enthusiast.



Yes, many representative cars in all colours are listed at the Registry. We have a major update coming with colour combinations in the queue and rare interiors with pictures.
To get started, see: http://www.8coupe.com/color.htm

Click on the colour swatch for details about the colour and pictures of cars. For those that don't have pictures yet and your car is in that colour and you want it pictured as the representative 8er example, you're welcome to contact the team to add the picture. So let me get this straight Jud..

You're saying that this car:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e110/mt33215/Code45.jpg

Is this color ,like the swatch you posted??

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e110/mt33215/articblu.jpg

Yes, that's the official colour swatch. If you would like to get into a long discussion on why this is so, then let's take this offline.

In regards to this particular car, remember I said these are terrible pictures by the seller.

If you take this swatch and compare it with other Aqua Blue cars, you'll see it more closely aligns. The reason this car's pictures are posted is exactly for the reason you posted this picture and claimed it was Arctic Blue. Because this car was widely discussed in other forums, it was purposely placed as one of the representative cars.

Yes, that's the official colour swatch. If you would like to get into a long discussion on why this is so, then let's take this offline.

In regards to this particular car, remember I said these are terrible pictures by the seller.

If you take this swatch and compare it with other Aqua Blue cars, you'll see it more closely aligns. The reason this car's pictures is posted is exactly for the reason you posted this picture and claimed it was Arctic Blue. Because this car was widely discussed in other forums, it was purposely placed as one of the representative cars. No I don't need to get into a discussion , just need to make an appt. for an eye exam..

Mark850

The Arctic blue swatch I see at the 8 coupe link and the one you pasted here are way way different :(

The original swatch almost matches the car picture and the posted one is green. Something is lost in the translation. Monitor differences?

If your going to have a cool car like an 8, stand out! Mmmm... Hellrot (http://www.8coupe.com/Production/Colors/ExteriorColors/tabid/91/agentType/View/PropertyID/21/language/en-US/Default.aspx). :)

http://www.8coupe.com/Portals/0/PropertyAgent/431/Images/72.jpg

Actually, I sort of like Lila (http://www.8coupe.com/Production/Colors/ExteriorColors/tabid/91/agentType/View/PropertyID/41/language/en-US/Default.aspx)....

http://www.8coupe.com/Portals/0/PropertyAgent/431/Images/123.jpg

This Santorinblau (http://www.8coupe.com/Production/Colors/ExteriorColors/tabid/91/agentType/View/PropertyID/117/language/en-US/Default.aspx) also remind me of Laguna Seca Blue, which I love from the M3s:

http://www.8coupe.com/Portals/0/PropertyAgent/431/Images/260.jpg

Great site 8coupe!! Keep up the excellent work.
Im with you there on the Lila mannnnnn.
As far as the paint goes from what i have seen it depends on how good a job is done down to the frame and so on, alot of the high dollor cars at the barret jackson dont have the OEM paint scheme

It all depends on the painting process. All panels off, better than OEM finish and documentation will sell the car.

I completely disassembled my white '91 to paint it. Front/back glass out, fenders off, and EVERY piece of trim and clip. If you change color, the biggest pita, and the worst drawback if you don't do it- is the door jams and doors, trunk inside and surround gutter. IMO the motor compartment remaining black would be ok. If it were any other color, not.
http://bmw.satservice.com/apart73789.jpg

Chuck850 - I too am partial to the red one - that's actually a picture of my CSi!

I completely disassembled my white '91 to paint it. Front/back glass out, fenders off, and EVERY piece of trim and clip. If you change color, the biggest pita, and the worst drawback if you don't do it- is the door jams and doors, trunk inside and surround gutter. IMO the motor compartment remaining black would be ok. If it were any other color, not.
http://bmw.satservice.com/apart73789.jpg

steffen is the man, who goes the extra lightyear ,when it comes to doing stuff.

So tex...many here know the extra effort you put in, so I was wondering if your title is a Salvage title since your insurance totaled it.

So tex...many here know the extra effort you put in, so I was wondering if your title is a Salvage title since your insurance totaled it.

i don't think he'd ever plan on selling her.
and if, she would be the world best conditioned car with salvage title

So tex...many here know the extra effort you put in, so I was wondering if your title is a Salvage title since your insurance totaled it.
Where in the world did you get that story? This is not the car that burned, that's Steffen's (TXGR8WHT). And his was not totaled and has a clean title, there was no insurance claim. As far as my pictured car in this thread- there was nothing wrong with the car when I took it apart other than it needed new paint. Never been hit, dam sure does not have a salvage title. It would take a bit to total it anyway, it insured for 40k. Check your stories.
and Michael- read my post.... it says MY '91, not Steffen's. My name is Greg!

and Michael- read my post.... it says MY '91, not Steffen's. My name is Greg!

sorry greg , i over read that.
i guess steffen must have been rubbing off on ya.
you're not just sing in a quire, you also start doing things the 'steffen way'

So tex...many here know the extra effort you put in, so I was wondering if your title is a Salvage title since your insurance totaled it.
Insurance wasn't involved, car wasn't "totalled". Only totalled if it costs more to repair than what it is worth. My out-of pocket was less than $2,750. My car is still worth much more than $2,750...

sorry greg , i over read that.
i guess steffen must have been rubbing off on ya.
you're not just sing in a quire, you also start doing things the 'steffen way'


...are you jealous??

...are you jealous??

i am jealous of you in many ways.
bmw 850
mercedes 'fast-class'
awesome corvette collection
and that other funky car with dual exhaust and flip headlights.

Me too but i would never tell him!

Me too but i would never tell him!



+1! lol.

I don't know what I would do without Steffan, let alone the forum.

+1! lol.

I don't know what I would do without Steffan, let alone the forum.

come one now... don't give the kid a even bigger ego.
(slightly jealous remark )

Where in the world did you get that story? This is not the car that burned, that's Steffen's (TXGR8WHT). And his was not totaled and has a clean title, there was no insurance claim. As far as my pictured car in this thread- there was nothing wrong with the car when I took it apart other than it needed new paint. Never been hit, dam sure does not have a salvage title. It would take a bit to total it anyway, it insured for 40k. Check your stories.
and Michael- read my post.... it says MY '91, not Steffen's. My name is Greg!

My bad..I get you puppy guys mixed up.

Insurance wasn't involved, car wasn't "totalled". Only totalled if it costs more to repair than what it is worth. My out-of pocket was less than $2,750. My car is still worth much more than $2,750...

O ok. I thought you mentioned when we first talked, you mentioned something about the insurance totaling it or something, I know you decided to fix it yourself but I was just wondering if that effected your title...obviously not.

My bad..I get you puppy guys mixed up.



...

nope was my bad...i started was the one, that did the mix up.