anyone on here have one for sale, please e-mail me at tread72@gmail.com if you do.

Adding rear fog lights? I just sold one, I will check and update if i have another, About $30.00 shipped on bay.de

I saw wuffers car and the rear fog's surprised it was not standard on the us-spec cars, its a must to have

Iirc you also have to reprogram the LKM. Steffen knows.

Iirc you also have to reprogram the LKM. Steffen knows.

For the rear fog light install, I have to reprogram the LKM?

No, I didn't?

I think it depends on how you want them to operate. I am sure Steffen will chime in eventually.

He's been unusually quiet. I bet he's joyriding in Abilene. ;-)

on my old 840, I wired the rear fog lights to the Brake lights so that they were my extra brake lights.

And MD passed you?

I added one pin to the harness, A bulb and bulb holder and the Euro switch, When you flip the switch all the way up, There's power.

And MD passed you?

MD only has one safety inspection at the purchase of the car and then emissions only afterwards. No problem there.

Also it is not on all the time and comes on with the depression of the brake pedal only. It is the same principle used by the older Lexus GS 400 (I think)where the rear fogs are used as the additional brake lights in the US market.

This site is great. It is always exposing new ways to add/improve and spend on our pride and joy. This is in addition to the technical expertise and innovation that can't be found in a maintenance manual. Thanks.

Procedure on how to install rear fog lights is available deep in the E31FAQ Compendium found here: http://www.wuffer.net/_mgxroot/page_e31_downloads.html
Its att155.pdf for the lazy... 8-)

^^^^I've got all the parts to do the conversion but since I'm such an electronics ingrate, I'm chicken.

I recall that I was still confused about certain parts of the mod. I bought 2 oem bulb holders, are these compatible? I assume they are since they're the same white ones that hold the brake lights. I also bought oem bulbs.

I'd like to do this mod. It would b great to have someone in person help while I provide the beer & wisecracks.

Be happy to! come on up.

David, if you go visit Tom... you have to drive thru Fresno, so I'll meet up with you as we caravan up to Good Ol' Canada... yeah?

Gotta luv an E31 Road Trip!

I bought my switch from Gault and installed them in about an hour. It really is not hard. I have a EURO LKM so I don't know how they work on standard US LKMs.

-Douglas

What does your Euro LKM do to make the rear fogs work?

Worked just fine on my Canadian spec - even before the Euro LKM.

Doh.. now you guys got me thinking about another mod. I hadn't even though about rear fogs until I saw this... :)

Worked just fine on my Canadian spec - even before the Euro LKM.

The only thing the reprogrammed LKM does is give you the "Fog Lite Error" if one of the bulbs is out. The big gain on the reprog is the front lights all on with brites.

What sockets do I need I already have the switch.

I think it depends on how you want them to operate. I am sure Steffen will chime in eventually.

He's been unusually quiet. I bet he's joyriding in Abilene. ;-)

Nope, actually went to go check on an 850 in Cozumel, Mexico.
Didn't find one, but had a blast anyway....

I was wondering about ya partner....What a place to check an 850..... Just got back from Riviera Maya not long ago... Gotta love the 2 1/2 flight and private vila on a heavenly beach... The closest place I've seen water so beautiful is on Fijji and Maldives.... We're blessed with Mexico and yet it is such a shite country....


Nope, actually went to go check on an 850 in Cozumel, Mexico.
Didn't find one, but had a blast anyway....

What sockets do I need I already have the switch.

Good question! I bought OEM bulb holders, the same as the brake light ones, but I'm not sure that they are correct. Somewhere, I think, I read that they won't work? I can't recall and I'd really like to know.

Cheers

You can make most tail light sockets work, It does'nt have to be bmw, Long as it's the size of the circular cut out or even one close in size will work, It should'nt be a problem.

Thanks 8eights!

But you will know they are not BMW and it might bug ya until you change them out for the geniune article. ;-)

As long as what you got is a single contact socket it wont matter...

What sockets do I need I already have the switch.

Good question! I bought OEM bulb holders, the same as the brake light ones, but I'm not sure that they are correct. Somewhere, I think, I read that they won't work? I can't recall and I'd really like to know.

CheersHad these old pictures from my install, Pics are compliments of i believe the old TxGreg, Before he went Sick!--)

Had these old pictures from my install, Pics are compliments of i believe the old TxGreg, Before he went Sick!--)

:) Had this old pic from the different switches...

http://www.cafeamwehrgang.de/fbilder/switch.jpg

Thanks for the pics guys (they're exactly what I needed). I think I will proceed and do the install maybe this weekend (if I get some damn time to myself--work work work work work).

Need to buy a soldering gun, can't find mine.

:) Had this old pic from the different switches...

http://www.cafeamwehrgang.de/fbilder/switch.jpgHarry! The first switch, The highest selection on top, What does it do? Thanks!

Had these old pictures from my install, Pics are compliments of i believe the old TxGreg, Before he went Sick!--)

the first pic is from me, i believe
i used the original BMW sockets for my install.
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/bmdoublesyou/foglights002.jpg
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/bmdoublesyou/rearassembly001.jpg
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/bmdoublesyou/f7e9_1.jpg

the first photo is from me... see the date and time
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/bmdoublesyou/fog.jpg
and compare it to the others i posted.
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/bmdoublesyou/foglights002.jpg

Ok?

nevermind... all i am saying is that the first photo of your post is mine
and i photgraphed it.
the other two are indeed from greg. you prolly mixed them up, no biggie
(unedited)
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/bmdoublesyou/mtdorameet08001.jpg
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/bmdoublesyou/rearassembly001.jpg

Where do I get the pin for the connector? Do they sell it at Autozone or Pepboys etc?

Tia!

Where do I get the pin for the connector? Do they sell it at Autozone or Pepboys etc?

Tia!

i made mine myself. just took out a pin from a bmw connector and
soldered it to a wire and then glued it in the connector.

Most electronic stores that carry plugs, Can also remove it from a plug at a auto zone etc, It should push in and lock in place.

Cool, thanks. I'm gonna give this mod a shot.

Then it'll be time to figure out how to pull out the USA LKM for a Euro. I'm ready to start blinding all these idiotic L.A. drivers not paying attention while driving on the streets :lol3

You changed your heads to LED's, You can easily do this and the LMK swap i'm sure, Just post if you get stuck, Will help walk you through.

:) Had this old pic from the different switches...

http://www.cafeamwehrgang.de/fbilder/switch.jpg

I am curious what this the button means too!

Thought I told you :)

It´s the "Northland-4-stage-switch" from scandinavian "day-lights" that we call TFL.
Highest position doesn´t anything but shown here:

http://www.cafeamwehrgang.de/fbilder/y1.jpg

:D the right car please

http://www.cafeamwehrgang.de/fbilder/meins2.jpg

:stickoutt the left car please


And this is what I mean with TFL:

http://www.cafeamwehrgang.de/fbilder/010309I.jpg

remember the "doublebulb": 21W on the front and no rear lights

I´ll try to make a nice graphic the next days, but at the next weekend we´ll have "my" :) 8- and 6-series meeting, so I have to be busy in other directions...

I want one, Thanks Harry!--)

The 4S or the M1?

If you want to have the TFL contact Martin of 8.ch!

M1 and Thanks for the TFL info! The switch is not available through beamer fans?

It won´t help you, you need the TFL-module too, and Martin has the complete set...

I want it too! :-p sucks you need a module.

Harry, expect an email soon. I have info on the diff for you.

Harry, expect an email soon. I have info on the diff for you.

Harry, expect an email soon. I have info on the diff for you.

http://www.cafeamwehrgang.de/fbilder/11.gif

Another stupid question, what gauge are the bulb wires? I got everything (new solder gun, etc) but forgot the wires today.

If you have some loose 14 through 18 you'll be fine, If you have to buy some, 16 would get you plenty of use on other stuff as well.

Cool Marv, thanks. I owe you a case of beer by now.

Cheers :beer

No you don't, 2 glasses would be fine!--)

No you don't, 2 glasses would be fine!--)

guess marv is a lightweight, just like me... lmao

Can't keep a secret eh?-)

Uh oh, that means more beer for Koizumi :drink3