I talked to Dave at racing dynamics, he is willing to do a group buy, but I would needed to get in contact with a member in Va to be our point man.

They are willing go with the following prices but we need to get minimum of 10 orders of each item out, meaning either 10 complete body kits or 10 front spoilers, rear spoiler or lower spoiler.

121.12.31.011
Front Spoiler, BMW 840/850 E31
$417.00 each
121.54.31.011
Rear diffuser, mounts under original rear valance, BMW 840/850 E31
$237.00
121.45.31.011
Rear Wing, BMW 840/850 E31
$165.00

$819.00 for the whole kit not a bad price considering the pool for body kits for the e31 is getting small, zeemax or CSI which is a lot more expensive than this kit.

So I will start with a wish list we needed minimum of 10 of each:




Front Spoiler only: 3 more people
1.Jamie Simpson jr
2. austin8
3.tread72
4. Hipshot
5. dedarkone
6. argonuat
7. skeho12

Rear Wing only: 1 more people
1. Brad
2. Paul Ormiston
3. mortorisym850
4. Neuance
5. tread72
6. Bill Fox
7. hipshot
8. Rockyt
9. skeho12


Rear Diffuser only: 0 more people
1.Jamie Simpson jr
2. Paul Ormiston
3. Ron Powell
4. austin 8
5. mortorisym850
6. tread72
7. rockyt
8. hipshot
9. dedarkone
10. argonuat
11. skiho12
12. liquidblueloft

more pictures

I would need to have a member or members that are business owners to help with this group by, as instructed by Dave, so

Randy and Ahmed have stepped up to the plate to help, as they both have had a good experience with RD racing, thanks guys for the help.

Randy

"I even have the capability to collect 10 full sets of pieces if necessary then dole them out from here. (NJ) I'd want to know what their shipping terms were around the country though as sales tax would be collected on any pickup, so that wouldn't make a lot of sense.
I'd be glad to collect money and have it sit in say, my Paypal account with the understanding from everyone that no dealings go forward without everyone having paid, no matter how long that takes, and that it won't be me holding up the whole deal. I want to deal in good faith with RD and they have to know it's the real deal to make a production run."

As a whole, Racing Dynamics got it right across the board IMO. I have seen all of these firsthand on the famous K55 and can tell you they look great. The front spoiler is subtly aggressive and fits the body lines well. The rear deck spoiler (although not everyone's cup of tea) is the right width and height, similar to the ACS one, and the diffuser fits the area very well between the pipes and doesn't have the 'shelf' look of the CSI. That price is a very good one and does reflect a group buy price.... I was quoted just under $1200 for the package early last year, but I'm assuming the $819 is without shipping.... you either add that cost, or even if you pre-buy then go down and pick it up they charge VA sales tax... almost a wash. All of their pieces are currently out of production with 'maybe' another run being done about June/July. This may be an incentive to start early or stay on that schedule. Even though I have an original ACS heckflugel sitting in Germany I'd be down for the package.... I mean, like the cars themselves one can never have enough rear spoilers ...:stickoutt

The first E31 I looked at when I was purchasing... had this entire kit, and it looked fantastic. Unfortunately I wasn't quick enough with the chequebook to make the sale. It also had some great looking RD Rims as well. :buttrock

Do they make side skirts??

Will the front spoiler include the license plate delete panel? I guess if not I could get that from laszlo, I assume it is the same piece

Do they make side skirts??

No, they wanted 1400.00 for them, they will not offer them this run.

Will the front spoiler include the license plate delete panel? I guess if not I could get that from laszlo, I assume it is the same piece

Nope...just the front spoiler

Ahmed

" Let me know if this is of any help. I have been to RD in VA several times and met the business owner. They hold a lot of Spring and summer events. Here is a pic where the red building in front of my car is the RD building."

I have worn, jagged plug and screw holes for my front spoiler . In fact I removed my front spoiler a while back. What are my options for afixing the front spoiler if if I were to order it? Can I repair that area?

I have worn, jagged plug and screw holes for my front spoiler . In fact I removed my front spoiler a while back. What are my options for afixing the front spoiler if if I were to order it? Can I repair that area?

I don't know, maybe some of the veteran members can chime in on this one, please do let me know if your interested I will add you to the list.

Do they make side skirts??
No, they wanted 1400.00 for them, they will not offer them this run.

I don't know why these were always off the graph expensive compared to the other pieces because they're no big deal...... OEM looks better IMO. At any rate my understanding is the molds were worn out for these and they had no plans to bring them back any time soon.


Will the front spoiler include the license plate delete panel? I guess if not I could get that from laszlo, I assume it is the same piece

Nope...just the front spoiler

The piece he is describing isn't the license plate delete..... that goes on the leading edge of the lower front bumper. Even Laszlo's MK front spoiler needs this piece additionally in some cases. The wider piece that Laz and RD offer is the grille filler. Mark850 and I each have different examples of them here that I will be talking to Rob (the Alpina hood fabricator) about duplication for an additional option to the community.

I have worn, jagged plug and screw holes for my front spoiler . In fact I removed my front spoiler a while back. What are my options for afixing the front spoiler if if I were to order it? Can I repair that area?

One big advantage of the factory CSI spoiler is that it can be had with an installation kit specifically for that spoiler. Aftermarket doesn't have this. Without seeing pix of what you are describing, I would say that this spoiler should cover the bad spots and different mounting points could be used. YMMV however.

does anyone have a side profile shot of this kit? I've always thought it was one of the cleanest looking full body kits out there.

Do a search for the Racing Dynamics K55...it has it all.

does anyone have a side profile shot of this kit? I've always thought it was one of the cleanest looking full body kits out there.http://www.racdyn-usa.com/search_engine_info/e31.html

WHAT IS THIS!!!

http://www.m5time.com/albums/GTi-Magazine2006/BMW850CiA_20_M5TIME.jpg

A thread hijack.

Question for you guys....

(1) How does the front spoiler bolt on to our 8s if they do not offer an install kit? Do we have to make new holes or use existing ones from the our original spoiler that will be removed, and do we use the original screws?

(2) The rear wing I assume need to drill into the back trunk to bolt it on?

Thanks Tread72 for the work.

I had a aftermarket saleen bumper put on my saleen, I didnt want to pay the price saleen wanted, the knock off was 1/3 the price of oem, the body shop made metal brackets and mounted the front bumper, so I assume who ever you go to get it installed would do the same, I persaonally dont know.

I would think it's easy to do yourself with minimum imagination. I'm sure you guys can mount these things.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I'll take the front spoiler and the rear diffuser

Tread72,

I am assuming these are primed only and will need paint right?

Once all the commitments are in place I can go and talk to the owner, make final arrangements and look into the logistics. If storage is required, I can provide a spare garage since my 8 is gone :( .

I have not installed any RD kits in the past but I am sure once I install one, I'll be able to come up with a install instrauctions with pictures like my other install instructions. I will also be able to help local or nearby people with installs. I have a local painter who is willing to paint the items with the correct BMW paint but would like to see the pieces first to give an estimate on the painting cost.

Faisal, any idea how much a total paintjob would cost?

Thx

It's cheaper if they don't know what it's for!

Yeah - but they discover that when they ask what kind of paint. ;-)

Here's a site that has an 850 with the front spoiler from RD, bunch of different angles:

http://www.djauto.ca/vehicleDetails.php?vehicleID=140

Sorry, couldn't strip the Photos, as it's in Flash.

Faisal, any idea how much a total paintjob would cost?

Thx

Total Paintjob for the car or the Full kit? I think it will also depend on the color (Metallic/non-metallic, etc)

Question for you guys....

(1) How does the front spoiler bolt on to our 8s if they do not offer an install kit? Do we have to make new holes or use existing ones from the our original spoiler that will be removed, and do we use the original screws?

(2) The rear wing I assume need to drill into the back trunk to bolt it on?

Thanks Tread72 for the work.

let me know if you want in on this, we are almost close to getting the people required.

Yeah - but they discover that when they ask what kind of paint. ;-)

let me know if your interested in getting in on the group buy.

Please put me down for a rear defuser
-zeke

I just have to ask - is the material used fiberglass?

Since Faisal is in good communication with the RD owner, it seems it would help for some further conversation as to flexibility on their part. Some only want the diffuser, and part of that 10 diffuser units is with people who want front spoiler/diffuser (like me). OK 10 diffusers are covered with say, 5 complete kits, 3 front spoiler/diffuser, and 2 diffusers only.... that leaves others waiting while RD plays it safe and just makes the diffusers. I mean c'mon..... with a group order like the above, or a similar combination, it would seem a damn good order for them. They do after all advertize as being able to provide all the pieces in their inventory anyway. Am I off base in my thinking on this?

Since Faisal is in good communication with the RD owner, it seems it would help for some further conversation as to flexibility on their part. Some only want the diffuser, and part of that 10 diffuser units is with people who want front spoiler/diffuser (like me). OK 10 diffusers are covered with say, 5 complete kits, 3 front spoiler/diffuser, and 2 diffusers only.... that leaves others waiting while RD plays it safe and just makes the diffusers. I mean c'mon..... with a group order like the above, or a similar combination, it would seem a damn good order for them. They do after all advertize as being able to provide all the pieces in their inventory anyway. Am I off base in my thinking on this?


Not off base in anyway, I completely agree. I don't see why they wouldn't see things like that, just with the orders placed in the last couple of days they'd be getting a good amount of business.

I just have to ask - is the material used fiberglass?

Its fiberglass reinforced plastic from what I was told.

Since Faisal is in good communication with the RD owner, it seems it would help for some further conversation as to flexibility on their part. Some only want the diffuser, and part of that 10 diffuser units is with people who want front spoiler/diffuser (like me). OK 10 diffusers are covered with say, 5 complete kits, 3 front spoiler/diffuser, and 2 diffusers only.... that leaves others waiting while RD plays it safe and just makes the diffusers. I mean c'mon..... with a group order like the above, or a similar combination, it would seem a damn good order for them. They do after all advertize as being able to provide all the pieces in their inventory anyway. Am I off base in my thinking on this?

I will e-mail dave an update and see what his response is.

any direct question can be sent to Dave, dave@racdyn-usa.com

I'd be interested in there intake manifolds if available.

***Edited***
Talked to Dave, Discontiuned in the 90's...

I am thinking also of the CSI one. Wich one would you recommend. The RD or the CSI???

I am thinking also of the CSI one. Wich one would you recommend. The RD or the CSI???

Well the CSI one is really good, looks good, but everyone has one, the RD I have never seen in person, but it looks different, its a personal preference really, both are good in their own way, just like the zeemax, ACS, MK, Rieger...etc

RD and CSi front spoiler are in my opinion the cleanest looking. However, I don't think you can beat the look of the CSi front, a second close is Zeemax for me.

RD and CSi front spoiler are in my opinion the cleanest looking. However, I don't think you can beat the look of the CSi front, a second close is Zeemax for me.

Again, its personal preference, our cars already look good, the body kits enhance the look or may kill the look....

Not saying it isn't personal preference bro. Was just throwing my worthless .08 around.

If you could adapt part of the Csi's intall kit to the RD, It would be awesome, The part im talking about is the part that directs the air right into the electric fan, It really serves a purpose to make things not have to work so hard when not sitting in traffic! Just a though...

Not saying it isn't personal preference bro. Was just throwing my worthless .08 around.

Sorry dude I just wanted to add to your post...no disrespect meant...lol

If you could adapt part of the Csi's intall kit to the RD, It would be awesome, The part im talking about is the part that directs the air right into the electric fan, It really serves a purpose to make things not have to work so hard when not sitting in traffic! Just a though...


'ATTA BOY MARV! Always thinking, that's the kind of stuff that gives us more imagination and possible future mods. I agree, I can't help but be a sucker for functionality and style.

If you could adapt part of the Csi's intall kit to the RD, It would be awesome, The part im talking about is the part that directs the air right into the electric fan, It really serves a purpose to make things not have to work so hard when not sitting in traffic! Just a though...

+1

I was wondering, without changing the temp rang of the thermostat, can you get the electric fan relay that kicks it on at a lower temp than the oem one.

I wouldn't mind looking at the zionsville rad when mine goes out

Thanks Brad for the pictures, here is a more detailed picture of the front bumper

ok im in for the the three parts. My rear spoiler on the trunk has a monster split in it ITS TIME!!!!!!

WHAT IS THIS!!!

http://www.m5time.com/albums/GTi-Magazine2006/BMW850CiA_20_M5TIME.jpg

Interesting pics on that link if you play around with the URL, prefer this model: http://www.m5time.com/GTi-Magazine2006/BMW850CiA_23_M5TIME


(Apologies for the hijack)

@ OP - great idea, thanks - I'm interested in the front spoiler and the rear diffusor

@ Randy - I'd be interested in the front spoiler and the rear diffusor - would you be willing to try and get me a price for shipment to the UK?


(BTW, your diff will be going into something very special in about 3 weeks - I'll be in touch soon...cheers, Jason)

@ Randy - I'd be interested in the front spoiler and the rear diffusor - would you be willing to try and get me a price for shipment to the UK?


(BTW, your diff will be going into something very special in about 3 weeks - I'll be in touch soon...cheers, Jason)



Cool deal on the diff..... I know it went to a good home. Contact me offline. We've definetly got some things to talk about.

The more I look at these body pieces I really think that RD did a good job with the design elements. I hope we can get this done.

The more I look at these body pieces I really think that RD did a good job with the design elements. I hope we can get this done.

few steps...lol

1. enough for 10 kits to be sold.
2. Then one person to be the middle man (Randy or Ahmed) to collect and give the final payments, then figure out shipping per person.

Once again I want to thank Randy and Ahmed for stepping up to the plate and to the rest of the owners who are ordering parts, as a group we all are making the happen....

Love the 8 community :redspot

Is there a cutoff date on this? What's the latest one can put in an order?

For those who are interested and for the new owners out there that aren't aware of the differences in products, what is and what is not available for the E31, and facts surrounding those products, perhaps this will help.

First of all, in the group buy being discussed we are dealing with Electrodyne Inc., that market aerodynamic parts in the US and Canada for our cars legally under the name of Racing Dynamics, Inc. They won this right after a legal battle with Racing Dynamics S.p.A. of Milan, Italy, the original designers and fabricators of all the engine performance, aerodynamics, suspension, wheels, and interior parts for the E31. This is discussed HERE (http://www.racdyn.com/Localized/NorthAmerica/Warning.htm) The same original parts are still available through RD Sports LLC as seen HERE (http://www.racdyn.com/Localized/International/Series/8/8_E31/RD_Int_8_E31_Intro.htm), and are Carbon-Kevlar construction in the original design compound, whereas the Electrodyne products are their own reinforced plastic compound.
I have gotten emails and PMs regarding details of other types of aerodynamic parts seen in various pictures of 8ers. Most often these are AC Schnitzer-TYPE. ACS E31 aero parts are completely out of production, and copies of their designs are provided by RaceonUSA in California as seen HERE (http://www.raceonusa.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=722_736) in THEIR own compound that is different from original AC Schnitzer. Similar to Dinan, I cannot say if documentation exists to owners of 'official' ACS equiped cars. The recent purchase of the '91 850 by TTTxGreg for instance, has a mixture of both the Zeemax front spoiler and rear boot lip, and the AC Schnitzer mirrors, sideskirts, and rear bumper surround. He would have to say difinitively if the car was prepped by Dinan with these parts along with the engine and suspension modification, or if the previous owner did the aerodynamics apart from Dinan. Given the timeframe of the car build it's a good bet that all 'real' ACS parts were used.
Zeemax in the UK have their own original E31 designs in standard and widebody offerings and are currently available solely through them.
Alpina designed E31 pieces occasionally surface in Europe.
Hartge and Koenig produce(ed) various parts for the E31 as evidenced by our friends KoenigDave in the UK and Noggie in Norway.
MK Motorsport has a front spoiler available via the US distributor.
Wings West has supply listed by a couple distributors for a front spoiler but stock my be rumor.
Reiger offers their version of E31 aero parts through various global distributors.

What does all this mean? Without exception the stock body lines of the E31 are accepted as one of the most beautiful designs ever produced by BMW. Like wheels, the design and appearance of aerodynamic changes to the base design is very subjective and to a greater or lesser degree improve performance. Here we come to the decision that the individual must make concerning what goes on their car. For the purist, the only way to go is with the original. If you want CSI you go to Gault and get OEM with factory produced design and fabrication. If CSI front spoiler look is what you seek, you can go HERE (http://www.mk-bmwe31.com/servlet/the-OPTICAL-TUNING/Categories) and get it in fiberglass without the install kit but at less than half the cost. Zeemax is just that, period. RaceonUSA doesn't call their products AC Schnitzer, but 'type-16'. They are copies of ACS designs though in their 'HiFlex' compound. The Alpina hood design that Mark850 is having done will never be represented as being a genuine Alpina hood. The design will be as faithful as possible to the original carbon fiber but the fabrication is completely different in that it's fiberglass/gelcoat and doesn't use the original steel hood frame from the car, but an exact mold of the frame and then laminated to the outer skin. At $1300 it's 1/10th the cost of the original that you can't get unless you're a proven genuine Alpina B12 owner to gain the option to buy it. In the case of Electrodyne/RacingDynamics,Inc., these pieces are 1:1 copies of Racing Dynamics S.p.A. Italy, use reinforced plastic vs Carbon-Kevlar, and the front spoiler for instance is 1/4th the cost. It is technically Racing Dynamics.

Thanks you for the great and well written post Randy. :buttrock

BTW- would you know how the rear spoiler (RD and/or ASC) is mounted on the trunk? I'm kinda weiry of drilling holes if I don't need to.

Peace!

For those who are interested and for the new owners out there that aren't aware of the differences in products, what is and what is not available for the E31, and facts surrounding those products, perhaps this will help.

First of all, in the group buy being discussed we are dealing with Electrodyne Inc., that market aerodynamic parts in the US and Canada for our cars legally under the name of Racing Dynamics, Inc. They won this right after a legal battle with Racing Dynamics S.p.A. of Milan, Italy, the original designers and fabricators of all the engine performance, aerodynamics, suspension, wheels, and interiors parts for the E31. This is discussed HERE (http://www.racdyn.com/Localized/NorthAmerica/Warning.htm) The same original parts are still available through RD Sports LLC as seen HERE (http://www.racdyn.com/Localized/International/Series/8/8_E31/RD_Int_8_E31_Intro.htm), and are Carbon-Kevlar construction in the original design compound, whereas the Electrodyne products are their own reinforced plastic compound.
I have gotten emails and PMs regarding details of other types of aerodynamic parts seen in various pictures of 8ers. Most often these are AC Schnitzer-TYPE. ACS E31 aero parts are completely out of production, and copies of their designs are provided by RaceonUSA in California as seen HERE (http://www.raceonusa.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=722_736) in THEIR own compound that is different from original AC Schnitzer. Similar to Dinan, I cannot say if documentation exists to owners of 'official' ACS equiped cars. The recent purchase of the '91 850 by TTTxGreg for instance, has a mixture of both the Zeemax front spoiler and rear boot lip, and the AC Schnitzer mirrors, sideskirts, and rear bumper surround. He would have to say difinitively if the car was prepped by Dinan with these parts along with the engine and suspension modification, or if the previous owner did the aerodynamics apart from Dinan. Given the timeframe of the car build it's a good bet that all 'real' ACS parts were used.
Zeemax in the UK have their own original E31 designs in standard and widebody offerings are are currently available solely through them.
Alpina designed E31 pieces occasionally surface in Europe.
Hartge and Koenig produce(ed) various parts for the E31 as evidenced by our friends KoenigDave in the UK and Noggie in Norway.

What does all this mean? Without exception the stock body lines of the E31 are accepted as one of the most beautiful designs ever produced by BMW. Like wheels, the design and appearance of aerodynamic changes to the base design is very subjective and to a greater or lesser degree improve performance. Here we come to the decision that the individual must make concerning what goes on their car. For the purist, the only way to go is with the original. If you want CSI you go to Gault and get OEM with factory produced design and fabrication. If CSI front spoiler look is what you seek, you can go HERE (http://www.mk-bmwe31.com/servlet/the-OPTICAL-TUNING/Categories) and get it in fiberglass without the install kit but at less than half the cost. Zeemax is just that, period. RaceonUSA doesn't call their products AC Schnitzer, but 'type-16'. They are copies of ACS designs though in their 'HiFlex' compound. The Alpina hood design that Mark850 is having done will never be represented as being a genuine Alpina hood. The design will be as faithful as possible to the original carbon fiber but the fabrication is completely different in that it's fiberglass/gelcoat and doesn't use the original steel hood frame from the car, and at $1300 is 1/10th the cost of the original that you can't get unless you're a proven genuine Alpina owner to gain the option to buy it. In the case of Electrodyne/RacingDynamics,Inc., these pieces are 1:1 copies of Racing Dynamics S.p.A. Italy, use reinforced plastic vs Carbon-Kevlar, and the front spoiler for instance is 1/4th the cost. It is technically Racing Dynamics.

The RD and ASC boot spoilers are very similar as to their width, which is why I like them over even OEM, as they continue the curved corner body lines properly IMO. The mounting is on the extreme outer edge of the trunk lid and is actually quite strong in that area. The footprint of the spoiler extends out over the trunk seam and quite close to the body to continue the sightline in the corners. Sorry, but if you want a boot spoiler of this type then hole drilling is in your future.

Confirm that the install involves drilling. The drawback is that the spoiler will always rub and wear paint off under the part that sits top of the fenders - top of the rear that is not the trunklid.

You will also have to do some work on the piece before it is painted. The RD car's spoiler has two dimples that the previous purchaser failed to fill in - and it shows.

To what RD car are you referring? I will confirm for the benefit of others that the RD boot spoiler mounts like the ACS one, but there is no reason to think that the RD doesn't require hole drilling, because the ACS does require holes and the placement of the two are very similar... much further outboard than say, the CSI. (Does OEM require drilling?) There isn't enough footprint to have one just stuck on. I would agree that any pieces will probably need additional work to bring them to the expectations of a given owner. Mark850's ACS frontend needed work to get smooth, and the Zeemax roof spoiler needed a lot of extra work as well to look right. I would disagree that rubbing and paint wear of the fender by the spoiler would need to occur. Even a thin rubber pad (if not provided already) would suffice to raise the spoiler enough to eliminate this.

Not sure if your asking this but Csi does'nt require drilling, As a matter of fact you can snap it in place before any bolting and drive the car.

To what RD car are you referring? I will confirm for the benefit of others that the RD boot spoiler mounts like the ACS one, but there is no reason to think that the RD doesn't require hole drilling, because the ACS does require holes and the placement of the two are very similar... much further outboard than say, the CSI. (Does OEM require drilling?) There isn't enough footprint to have one just stuck on. I would agree that any pieces will probably need additional work to bring them to the expectations of a given owner. Mark850's ACS frontend needed work to get smooth, and the Zeemax roof spoiler needed a lot of extra work as well to look right. I would disagree that rubbing and paint wear of the fender by the spoiler would need to occur. Even a thin rubber pad (if not provided already) would suffice to raise the spoiler enough to eliminate this.

Refering to 850i 6spd number two which has a load of RD goodies on it, including the rear wing, RGR rims and I believe springs and sways.

I seem to recall rubber pads on the fenders, too, but iirc they don't help that much. I'll have to check when I can inspect it a week from today. Will get back to you on that.

Not sure if your asking this but Csi does'nt require drilling, As a matter of fact you can snap it in place before any bolting and drive the car.

I sure would like to see how that is done. Perhaps the RD rear spoiler can be modified in a similar fashion.

Peace!

I'm talking about the front spoiler Mortorisym, I did'nt see he was referring to boot spoiler.

The RD and ASC boot spoilers are very similar as to their width, which is why I like them over even OEM, as they continue the curved corner body lines properly IMO. The mounting is on the extreme outer edge of the trunk lid and is actually quite strong in that area. The footprint of the spoiler extends out over the trunk seam and quite close to the body to continue the sightline in the corners. Sorry, but if you want a boot spoiler of this type then hole drilling is in your future.

Oh really (8eights)???

Peace!

To what RD car are you referring? I will confirm for the benefit of others that the RD boot spoiler mounts like the ACS one, but there is no reason to think that the RD doesn't require hole drilling, because the ACS does require holes and the placement of the two are very similar... much further outboard than say, the CSI. (Does OEM require drilling?) There isn't enough footprint to have one just stuck on. I would agree that any pieces will probably need additional work to bring them to the expectations of a given owner. Mark850's ACS frontend needed work to get smooth, and the Zeemax roof spoiler needed a lot of extra work as well to look right. I would disagree that rubbing and paint wear of the fender by the spoiler would need to occur. Even a thin rubber pad (if not provided already) would suffice to raise the spoiler enough to eliminate this.Yeah, Really! I was referring to this ism?

Lets get it on. This and the Alpina hood will be killer!

Almost there,

Front Spoiler only: 5 more people
1.Jamie Simpson jr
2. austin8
3.tread72
4. Hipshot
5. dedarkone

Rear Wing only: 3 more people
1. Brad
2. Paul Ormiston
3. mortorisym850
4. Neuance
5. tread72
6. Bill Fox
7. hipshot


Rear Diffuser only: 1 more people
1.Jamie Simpson jr
2. Paul Ormiston
3. Ron Powell
4. austin 8
5. mortorisym850
6. tread72
7. rockyt
8. hipshot
9. dedarkone

Getting close, lets getr done

Is there a cutoff date on this? What's the latest one can put in an order?

Once we get enough people to cover the 10 kits, then either Randy,Ahmed or myself will contact Dave to get the logistic going.

Interesting pics on that link if you play around with the URL, prefer this model: http://www.m5time.com/GTi-Magazine2006/BMW850CiA_23_M5TIME


(Apologies for the hijack)

@ OP - great idea, thanks - I'm interested in the front spoiler and the rear diffusor

@ Randy - I'd be interested in the front spoiler and the rear diffusor - would you be willing to try and get me a price for shipment to the UK?


(BTW, your diff will be going into something very special in about 3 weeks - I'll be in touch soon...cheers, Jason)

Would you like me to add you to the list?

Once we get enough people to cover the 10 kits, then either Randy,Ahmed or myself will contact Dave to get the logistic going.



Would you like me to add you to the list?


Yes please, put me down for a front spoiler and a rear diffusor
Thanks!

update on time frame for the kits being made by dave, the time is july and august, we can maybe start to send money by mid or late may or june, this way it gives people enough time to save up during these tough times.

"
As mentioned previously, these parts would have to be added to a future production run. It's too far off to provide a precise date, but a best estimate at this time might be July/August.

The freight estimate to ship one of the front spoilers to 98248 WA is $110.21 (this should be one of the furthest shipping points in the continental U.S. - Alaska and Hawaii would cost more). The rear wing and rear diffuser are smaller and lighter and will cost less; ordering multiple parts will be more."

Confirm that the install involves drilling.....

I have confirmed firsthand with both Electrodyne in VA and RD Sports in CA that the rear boot spoiler is in fact a screw mount. Yer gettin' older cantbl8.... the iirc isn't workin' like it used to..... 8^)

So it seems that this will indeed happen I am very happy thanks for all the effort to make this work

The information posted thus far is accurate and will indeed happen if everyone comes through. The incentive is nothing happens otherwise. They are firm with the run of a minimum of 10 pieces each, or however many more paid units, and they will also add a few more for their own inventory. The sideskirts will no longer be available as the mold is trashed. Straight from Dave today: this is likely a one shot deal and the main reason it's happening at all is because we are such a small niche market. They wouldn't do this for say, the 3 series crowd as their distributors would rightfully be pissed.

I am watching this with curiosity.

Yer gettin' older cantbl8.... the iirc isn't workin' like it used to..... 8^)



I was refering to the rub on the fender problem. The wing is screwed to the lid of course. So the iirc is working just fine. :D

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Defuser ??? what will it look like?

Defuser ??? what will it look like?


http://www.racdyn-usa.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=121.54.31.011&Category_Code=e31

please dont say im too late.

if im not, ill get the rear diffuser - definitely.

no worries your on the list

please dont say im too late.

if im not, ill get the rear diffuser - definitely.

No, you certainly aren't too late. In fact an issue I have is with their whole timeline. Before the group buy even came up their schedule was to include a run of E31 pieces (in whatever quantity the company saw fit) to replenish what's normally available from them. They truly are giving a price break on the complete package to the group here, so much so that it's worthwhile IMO to get the whole set regardless of what you want to use, and the price break is a courtesy. However even a 30+ piece order seems to have no effect on their timeline of a July/August run. It is what it is I guess but I for one don't like it, and I hope it doesn't affect the total order when the time comes because some have lost interest or a situation changes. That's understanable because life happens. It just makes things more complicated on our side.

Here are the pictures of the RD rear spoiler.

Pardon the dust - have not had time to do anything with this car since I dragged it home last year on a trailer.

One of the shots shows the attachment screws.

http://www.upload.mn/view/56o9vo8o9rkr025ohdgz.jpeg
http://www.upload.mn/view/joyb81q2z9pp9ol7n0vz.jpeg
http://www.upload.mn/view/tmki10aggrtdt70pvdbg.jpeg
http://www.upload.mn/view/9otcwumgxhfzlm4fze5p.jpeg
http://www.upload.mn/view/zdwz3ff19lav6cz5m405.jpeg
http://www.upload.mn/view/8e5wgn8za85nkij7me7a.jpeg
http://www.upload.mn/view/99vr5fygvos75dts2fle.jpeg
http://www.upload.mn/view/jpyi9463y2rme1sobkvi.jpeg

ADDED:

Seems like there is no rub pad. But there are rub marks on each fender.

Thanks for posting pictures of your spoiler here is the K55 from jim's site
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzep419u/1993850ci/id4.html

To everyone in the group buy, please fill out the information on the .pdf file and fax to Racing dynamics, they will charge you once production is started which will be in July or August.

Please be patient guys, this is a great deal and maybe the last time we might be able to get this kit for the E31, there is not much of a market for them in this, so its a hail mary pass and lets see if this goes through, please do post a note on this thread if you have sent the fax.

Thanks once again guys for helping me get this to this point, it means a lot to me that you guys have stepped up to help me get this kit.

regards

Rob

Ahmed and Randy are two members that have met or talked to Dave, if there is any questions please pm one of us and we will try to get you a response.

"
I have attached a PDF file with an order form. Please forward this file to all individuals who are on this order list. They should print a copy, complete all pages, and fax the pages to us at 703-823-0842.
The credit cards will not be charged until the factory order is placed.

Regards,
Dave

please do update me on who faxed the info to RD

ok can we just put part names - since we have no part # etc? i.e. spoiler valence etc?

Hipshot, thanks for bringing this up, I did list the parts on the first thread, but I should have added them to the last post, sorry about that and thanks for helping out.

Part Number : 121.12.31.011
Name : Front Spoiler, BMW 840/850 E31
$417.00 each


Part Number : 121.54.31.011
Name : Rear diffuser, mounts under original rear valance, BMW 840/850 E31
$237.00


Part Number : 121.45.31.011
Name : Rear Wing, BMW 840/850 E31
$165.00

Excellent! Thank you for all your support. Order is being placed and fax now.

Peace!

Hey Bobby,

I just faxed my order form in.

Cheers

OK - I've faxed in my order-
I also added the rear spoiler, so make sure you include my name on that one as well :)

Thanks guys, this is a group project, if you know anyone else on the group buy, please forward the info, lets make sure we get everyone on board

I talked to Dave at racing dynamics, he is willing to do a group buy, but I would needed to get in contact with a member in Va to be our point man.

They are willing go with the following prices but we need to get minimum of 10 orders of each item out, meaning either 10 complete body kits or 10 front spoilers, rear spoiler or lower spoiler.

121.12.31.011

Front Spoiler, BMW 840/850 E31


$417.00 each


121.54.31.011


Rear diffuser, mounts under original rear valance, BMW 840/850 E31


$237.00


121.45.31.011


Rear Wing, BMW 840/850 E31


$165.00


$819.00 for the whole kit not a bad price considering the pool for body kits for the e31 is getting small, zeemax or CSI which is a lot more expensive than this kit.

So I will start with a wish list we needed minimum of 10 of each:




Front Spoiler only: 4 more people
1.Jamie Simpson jr
2. austin8
3.tread72
4. Hipshot
5. dedarkone
6. argonuat

Rear Wing only: 2 more people
1. Brad
2. Paul Ormiston
3. mortorisym850
4. Neuance
5. tread72
6. Bill Fox
7. hipshot
8. Rockyt


Rear Diffuser only: 0 more people
1.Jamie Simpson jr
2. Paul Ormiston
3. Ron Powell
4. austin 8
5. mortorisym850
6. tread72
7. rockyt
8. hipshot
9. dedarkone
10. argonuat
11. harvardpark617


intrested in the whole kit contact via email ayeinv@comcast.net (ayeinv@comcast.net)

Uhh.... read the whole thread..... nobody contacts you.

wow, LOL...

yes i am intrested in purchasing the whole kit please contact me at ayeinv@comcast.net for further instructions

idk what 2 put here

okay, because I feel bad... you asking the people who went thru all this hard work to contact you is a bit arrogant; however, I digress as you claim to not know what this thread is about. You are to contact Randy or Bobby (tread) in regard to purchasing the kit, not the other way around.

Your interest is understood. All the information you need is contained in this thread. Read the thread on something other than a Blackberry please.

yes i am intrested in purchasing the whole kit please contact me at ayeinv@comcast.net for further instructions

idk what 2 put here

No problem bro, we are one big happy family here. I already e-mailed you the following, be aware this kit will be made in July or August, any question please contact Dave at racing dynamics, thank you for your support in this group buy.

Regards

Bobby

"down load .pdf, print it out and fill in the info, the part numbers and description is as posted, fax to 703-823-0842

Part Number : 121.12.31.011 Name : Front Spoiler, BMW 840/850 E31
$417.00 each


Part Number : 121.54.31.011
Name : Rear diffuser, mounts under original rear valance, BMW 840/850 E31
$237.00


Part Number : 121.45.31.011
Name : Rear Wing, BMW 840/850 E31
$165.00

No worries M8! Filling the forms, stealing my childs piggy bank here we go!
Hipshot, thanks for bringing this up, I did list the parts on the first thread, but I should have added them to the last post, sorry about that and thanks for helping out.

Part Number : 121.12.31.011
Name : Front Spoiler, BMW 840/850 E31
$417.00 each


Part Number : 121.54.31.011
Name : Rear diffuser, mounts under original rear valance, BMW 840/850 E31
$237.00


Part Number : 121.45.31.011
Name : Rear Wing, BMW 840/850 E31
$165.00

I found a guy in Roundtop TX who restores cars, he has offerd to re spray my car professionally. Hmmm can't wait to see all this on my baby!

For some reason it is not letting me access the pdf link?

Give me your email offline, I'll forward over a copy to you.

ok FYI since no 1 in my office can work the $#$%^&ing fax machine I scanned and emailed my details in Friday. Done.

Faxed today for rear wing.:redspot

uh-oh, i could only make a payment thru paypal. looks like im out, sorry.


unless theres a way i can do it thru paypal.

uh-oh, i could only make a payment thru paypal. looks like im out, sorry.


unless theres a way i can do it thru paypal.

If you cant no worries, I will take you off the list.

Thanks

Just order a Paypal debit card.....you should have one anyway to instantly access your funds there, then it acts just like what is needed by Electrodyne.

is it to late to get a rear diffuser. i see that there was only 10 available.

I think you need to reread the thread :)
The numbers are minimums required for the run, not total available...

i definitely read the thread wrong. great news

liquidblueloft, will add you, thanks for helping out

could we send a update on who has committed and who has submitted orders to see our progress?

just have people post here who have sent the info, I have not until this weekend, I finally have a day off.

sent my order for via e-mail today, lets see what happens?

You guys all need to read this before purchasing "Racing Dynamics" parts from Virginia:

http://www.racingdynamics.com/Localized/NorthAmerica/Warning.htm

...especially the blue text which reads:

"any new product sold in the U.S. and Canada under the Racing Dynamics brand name, after January 1, 2003, is most likely NOT manufactured by Racing Dynamics S.p.A., therefore, no assurances can be given that it is an original Racing Dynamics S.p.A. product. If you are located in the U.S. and Canada, and intend to purchase the original tuning products from Racing Dynamics S.p.A., please insist with your retailer that you expect to receive and will only accept RDSport® brand products."

You guys all need to read this before purchasing "Racing Dynamics" parts from Virginia:

http://www.racingdynamics.com/Localized/NorthAmerica/Warning.htm

...especially the blue text which reads:

"any new product sold in the U.S. and Canada under the Racing Dynamics brand name, after January 1, 2003, is most likely NOT manufactured by Racing Dynamics S.p.A., therefore, no assurances can be given that it is an original Racing Dynamics S.p.A. product. If you are located in the U.S. and Canada, and intend to purchase the original tuning products from Racing Dynamics S.p.A., please insist with your retailer that you expect to receive and will only accept RDSport® brand products."


Thanks for the warning, but this is very old news, there have been a few members on this forum that have dealings with racing dynamics in Va, and Randy and Ahmed both know or have talked to Dave.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-51807.html

http://autodesignhaus.com/tuners/rdsport/index.htm

you can google it all day long, long story short, since there are not many body kits on the market for the e31, I will take what I can get at a decent price.

you can google it all day long, long story short, since there are not many body kits on the market for the e31, I will take what I can get at a decent price.

That's a fair point, but I can't support a company with that type of business model.

I discovered this only after my personal dealings with them having bought 3 VERY SHODDY products marketed as "Racing Dynamics" parts for the e46.

lets stay positive here, thanks for the warning, but we have all read it before

That's a fair point, but I can't support a company with that type of business model.

I discovered this only after my personal dealings with them having bought 3 VERY SHODDY products marketed as "Racing Dynamics" parts for the e46.

thanks for the input man :)

Olin, you need to read my post #51 in this thread. It was specifically written to inform people about the facts of what is out there, and it includes your information. As to quality issues I'm sorry for your bad experience but everybody knows that pieces for an E31 are better than for E46....:stickoutt Seriously though, any manufacturer's stuff will need additional work to a greater or lesser degree..... this has been discussed as well. You want the 'real' Racing Dynamics stuff go for it. I've been trying for two weeks to get even an E31 price list for stuff that isn't even in the country.

By the way...........On a practical note. Could the manufacturer please acknowledge that he has received our orders? I'd hate toe get to delivery time only to find my order was misplaced? Is there a process here for that? i.e. I emailed my order in with a scanned signed doc and CC #. I'd had hoped to have some acknowledgment and then come time to process my card a heads up that its being processed and all that good stuff!?

By the way...........On a practical note. Could the manufacturer please acknowledge that he has received our orders? I'd hate toe get to delivery time only to find my order was misplaced? Is there a process here for that? i.e. I emailed my order in with a scanned signed doc and CC #. I'd had hoped to have some acknowledgment and then come time to process my card a heads up that its being processed and all that good stuff!?

This is the update so far from Dave,

"
Here are the totals so far for the paperwork I have received from 5 individuals (including yourself):
121.12.31.011 front spoiler Qty: 3

121.54.31.011 rear diffuser Qty: 4

121.45.31.011 rear wing Qty: 4

--------------------------------------------------------
Qty: 11

seems there are still a number of people who haven't actually placed their orders yet based on the totals provide on 4/27/09.
Dave "

I will try to e-mail everyone once again, if I e-mail you and you already place the order, please disregard.

Also, this is a group effort, if your friends with anyone on the list please e-mail them, thanks

+1 bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARe these kits made out of fiberglass or ABS or what? I'd hate to get the kit only to find out it was just made of fiberglass.

Do these prices include shipping?

If they are ABS(or similar) and that includes shipping I'm in for a front and rear spoilers.

its fiberglass reinforced plastic from what I have been told

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Guys, the has not been a change in the amount of people that faxed in their information, the window is closing soon, please e-mail me if you need help

I sent mine, but how do you know if they got it??? A reply or confirmation would be good, or list the names of the people who have sent.

I sent mine, but how do you know if they got it??? A reply or confirmation would be good, or list the names of the people who have sent.

Already e-mailed him, 10-4 on that

Nice, please include me on your list for the Rear Diffuser kit.

I know that years ago this came with the complete mounting hardware, will that be the case with the diffuser kit in the group buy?

The photo shows the 8 with the RD exhuast, will the kit mount with the stock exhuast? It seems that the stock valance with the stock exhuast closes up on the inside of the muffler and tips more than with the RD exhuast??

Thanks.

Regards,
Phil

PS: Just realized that this is not thru RD Sport, (Racing Dynamics). I have purchased from RD Sport in the past. They have NOS parts for the 8. I believe they still have body kits for the 8. Has anyone checked with them recently? I last purchase from them back in the summer of 2007. I have there front piece, from many years ago, and would like to get the rear diffuser that matches it, (from the same manufacture).

Phil

not sure on the mounting kit, but have seen the rear kit on oem exhaust before, should not be a problem.

Thanks for the quick reply... While you were answering, I was editing my original post.. sorry. Please see the PS below..

PS: Just realized that this is not thru RD Sport, (Racing Dynamics). I have purchased from RD Sport in the past. They have NOS parts for the 8. I believe they still have body kits for the 8. Has anyone checked with them recently? I last purchase from them back in the summer of 2007. I have there front piece, from many years ago, and would like to get the rear diffuser that matches it, (from the same manufacture).

Thanks.

Phil

I was quoted by another member here that last they checked, the front spoiler was $1800.00 usd alone. So If they do have body kits, I think they might be a lot, I will e-mail them directly and see what they say.

I have tried many times to e-mail RD sport, no response from them, dave at electrodyne has done business with members on this forum and so far so good, If interested, download the pdf and fill out the info and forward the info to Dave

Here is a C&P from Ryan ( main warehouse guy and high on the food chain) at RD Sports from months and months ago:

Hey Randy.

Here is the Prices......

Front Bumper - $1940

Grill Insert - $420

Rear Wing - $884

Side Skirts - $850

Rear Diffuser - $470

Springs - $200 Drop 25 to 30mm

I spoke to Federico about the 8 series and i'm afraid it is actually a customers car and it is not for sale.

Cheers Ryan



It took me two months to get that. There is a new guy John in the office now handling older inventory stuff, etc. Well fine. I've been trying for 3 weeks to get even updated price info to see if the above numbers are still valid. The reality is that they pay lip service to supplying NOS parts, but don't hold your breath. All the parts are in Italy. With the type of slow moving service that's been shown thus far to even get info, how long do you think it would take to get what you want. How high is up?

Just did a random google search :

http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/south-west/124386-racing-dynamics-sucks.html

read the first post, have no idea who the guy is, maybe there is a reason Electrodyne did what it did ?

The link above bears out my point that their service sucks and that was five years ago. Any that want to wait for the privelege to pay more for a rear spoiler than what a whole aerodynamic suite from Electrodyne costs, and may take a blessing from the Pope in Rome to get the stuff here, go for it. Not me.

These are the people who have sent their info already:

Andrew LaFave - wing

Kevin Sharp - spoiler, wing and diffuser

James Simpson - spoiler and diffuser

David Woollett - trying to figure out your user name

Bobby Bir - spoiler,wing amd diffuser

please add your username this way I will not e-mail you. For the rest of the guys interested, the window is going to close as june is near, please do send your info to Dave.


I think this is a good description of what racing dynamics uses to make the kits from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-reinforced_plastic

Please do correct me if I am wrong....this is the best I could come up with the fiberglass reinforced plastic

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These are the people who have sent their info already:

Andrew LaFave - wing

Kevin Sharp - spoiler, wing and diffuser

James Simpson - spoiler and diffuser

David Woollett - trying to figure out your user name

Bobby Bir - spoiler,wing amd diffuser

please add your username this way I will not e-mail you. For the rest of the guys interested, the window is going to close as june is near, please do send your info to Dave.


I think this is a good description of what racing dynamics uses to make the kits from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-reinforced_plastic

Please do correct me if I am wrong....this is the best I could come up with the fiberglass reinforced plastic


So from what I read and have read.. GRP is just a fancy name for fiberglass. :thumbdown

Well then Nuke, read post #130. Those are the original pieces if you can get them. Carbon-Kevlar is fancy for paying a lot of money and if you want Racing Dynamics style then that's what's for you. We'll be enjoying the :thumbdown stuff on our cars and you'll still be waiting for parts from Italy, but at least you'll be :thumbup:

Well then Nuke, read post #130. Those are the original pieces if you can get them. Carbon-Kevlar is fancy for paying a lot of money. If you want Racing Dynamics style then that's what's for you, but we'll be enjoying the :thumbdown stuff on our cars and you'll still be waiting for parts from Italy, but at least you'll be :thumbup:

+1 lol

So far 8 people have sent their info for a total of 16 pieces.......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-E31-Rear-Boot-Lip-Spoiler-Sport-Trim-Series-new-8_W0QQitemZ270391672263QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsP arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3ef4997dc7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A10%7C294%3A50
found this don't know if it's of interest.

C'mon folks - if you said you wanted pieces time to step up! If this doesn't happen due to lack of follow through I can't imagine ever getting this chance again...

+1

2

My info is sent today for a full kit so that's done, but I think there might be some hesitation on some people's part because of the way Electrodyne is handling this. I've gotten a couple PMs expressing concern of an open fax sitting somewhere out there with financial info on it. In today's atmosphere it's valid.

My info is sent today for a full kit so that's done, but I think there might be some hesitation on some people's part because of the way Electrodyne is handling this. I've gotten a couple PMs expressing concern of an open fax sitting somewhere out there with financial info on it. In today's atmosphere it's valid.

Very good point Randy - I'm uncomfortable with openly faxing sensitive credit card info - is there anyother way we can do this?

See PM Jason.......

what I did was give him my checking/visa credit card, I keep a low balance on it, I use it for internet/ebay/paypal sales only and I told dave to e-mail me a few days ahead when he needs the money and I will put it in the account, after that the account goes back to a low balance,

we are almost there guys, 11 more pieces


"Received the ninth order Friday - total is now 19 pieces"

I think this effort will be well worth it lets try to make this happen!

From Dave


"The only other payment option would be PayPal, but they will still have to fill out the Order Form )but leave out the credit card info on Page 2) but still include their Confirmed PayPal address, phone number, and email address on that page.

We will calculate their order total including shipping charges, then send them an email with the total amount to send via PayPal.

We are rapidly approaching a cutoff date, so it's now or never to get in on this.

Dave"

Next time you talk to Dave ask him what their plans are if their terms aren't met. Does it mean they won't do any at all, or simply that it'll be back to whatever pieces/whenever they decide to do a run. If this group buy doesn't fly I hope they don't assume that they can sell these to people who have committed whenever.

From Dave,

"At this point, we will proceed with the group buy even with only 19 of the original requirement of 30 pieces.

Hey guys, just found this thread today. I'm in for a rear wing if it's not too late. I'll do Paypal but like the others will not fax any sensitive personal info. Had ID stolen once, isn't going to happen again.

Jerry

Fill out the .pdf with your shipping info and sign the forms that your interested int he group buy, write down the part number and description, write a note that you will be paying via paypal.

Thanks for the support.

Glad to be on board. Has anyone who has entered an order received any kind of order acknowledgement?

J

Nobody will for awhile yet. Production isn't scheduled till July sometime.

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Hello All, is it too late get in on this? I want the whole set! for $800 bucks you cant beat it!!

Hello All, is it too late get in on this? I want the whole set! for $800 bucks you cant beat it!!

Go to post #81 down load the .pdf and then go to post #1 and fill in the part numbers with your info and then send the info to RD racing asap,

window for group buy is almost closed.

Thank you! I am doing it right now! You mentioned in one of your posts that they will not charge the card/paypal until it is built (July & August(. did i understand this correctly?

Ok, I just talked to them.......they don't know how much shipping is going to be!!!! Since it has not been produced as of now.

Does anyone know what materials these are made of? I may be interested in a front spoiler and rear diffuser.

I just spoke with Dave at Electrodyne. He said the pieces were fiberglass with some extra flex agent in the jellcoat. He said they would be cutting off the orders the first of next week. He also said that due to the inquiry of those members on this board who did the initial work that this is why they were producing these pieces in addition to an order they were going to run, and that we benefitted by getting a group wholesale purchase - Thanks Guys! Seemed like a nice guy on the phone. I'm in for a front spoiler and rear diffuser!

I just spoke with Dave at Electrodyne. He said the pieces were fiberglass with some extra flex agent in the jellcoat. He said they would be cutting off the orders the first of next week. He also said that due to the inquiry of those members on this board who did the initial work that this is why they were producing these pieces in addition to an order they were going to run, and that we benefitted by getting a group wholesale purchase - Thanks Guys! Seemed like a nice guy on the phone. I'm in for a front spoiler and rear diffuser!

Does anyone know what materials these are made of? I may be interested in a front spoiler and rear diffuser.

I just spoke with Dave at Electrodyne. He said the pieces were fiberglass with some extra flex agent in the jellcoat. He said they would be cutting off the orders the first of next week. He also said that due to the inquiry of those members on this board who did the initial work that this is why they were producing these pieces in addition to an order they were going to run, and that we benefitted by getting a group wholesale purchase - Thanks Guys! Seemed like a nice guy on the phone. I'm in for a front spoiler and rear diffuser!

I just spoke with Dave at Electrodyne. He said the pieces were fiberglass with some extra flex agent in the jellcoat. He said they would be cutting off the orders the first of next week. He also said that due to the inquiry of those members on this board who did the initial work that this is why they were producing these pieces in addition to an order they were going to run, and that we benefitted by getting a group wholesale purchase - Thanks Guys! Seemed like a nice guy on the phone. I'm in for a front spoiler and rear diffuser!

Thanks for your help rogbmw, I assume this will be going on your non-csi? :)

One day when I win the lottery, I would like a either CSI, TT or K55

http://kakaku.com/kuruma/catalog/other/99999999999/used/1759589_1/

Yes - it will go on the 850. I think it will compliment the CSi:redspot

Last call for the kits, thanks everyone for making this happen, without your support this would only be a thought....... one team one dream...lol

"Robert,

Please make a post that all orders must be faxed to us by Wednesday, June 24th - this is the cutoff date for participation and we will process orders for payment the following day.

The Racing Dynamics hood/trunk emblem that replaces the factory Roundel does not fit the E31 models; it replaces only the BMW part# 51 14 8 132 375 - the E31 models used a different part.

We can offer the chrome trunk emblem 250.00.00.002 for $19.00; these can be packed and shipped with the aero parts.

Also, the floor mats 608.10.XX.XXX for $129.00
and the trunk mat 608.20.XX.XXX for $129.00

NOTE: people must specify the color of the mats based on the choices shown on the website.
Also, all mats ship directly from the factory and generally take 2-3 weeks - mats will not ship with the aerodynamic parts in August.

Dave"

If i never received any info back from rd, does that mean they didn't get my info? I am a little concerned. I faxed them almost a month ago.

austin,

give them a call just to be safe

Looks like things are going somewhere, or at least my credit card was charged on July 3 and it included an amount for shipping - anyone else charged yet?

Mine was too, for a total of $922 for the whole kit with shipping. I called Dave to get a general ETA and it looks mid/late Aug, so they'll be holding our money for some time. Have the Paypal people been notified for funds to be sent too?

$951.51 4 me

Me too! I can't wait!

new member,is it too late to order a front spoiler?

At this point the cutoff for wholesale pricing has passed, but you'll still be able to get a spoiler. They're making more than what the group ordered for their regular inventory.

FTY- I received my RD rear spoiler today as I was leaving for work. The quality looks real good. I'll send some pictures later this week when I get home. Has anyone recieved theirs yet?

not yet but that is exciting I was expecting it in august

Wow already? I wonder if we will get the entire package soon?
Crud now I have to find money to do my paint job for the whole car.
I have schwarz II as I recall. Any opinions on color changes, enhancements, tweaking?
I'm partial to a more metallic black than my current color, but I have often thought of doing some sort of paint effect on bottom side skirts or some such.....lame?:nono

There are cars that have done the roof a contrasting black to very nice effect.

Yay got my rear deack spoiler in the mail, looks good. Now just needs to be painted and installed. I got my thrust arm bushings too, same day. Just like x-mas, I am a kid opening my gifts. :buttrock

I will message you once we are close to receiving the parts so you can post a heads up. Once we process the orders, everyone that provided an email address will receive an automated email direct from FedEx with the shipping details.

Anybody else getting their parts? My cc was charged almost a month ago and I haven't heard a peep-

we should get them in mid august I think, give it a few weeks and then I will e-mail dave or feel free to e-mail him....

I spoke with John over there yesterday, and on their calander they're still showing end of August production. Originally the 'july/aug' was a projection and that Dave now should be able to pinpoint a more exact date. Personally I'm not happy either that my card was charged along with yours some time ago for nearly a grand, and the way they're handling this as it amounts to pre-paying a long way out just to get wholesale prices. Emails ( or a couple phone calls from buyers) to Dave (the sales manager) may get clarification from him as to why it's being done this way.

Our order did not go to the factory until July 1st after everyone was billed for their orders; production turnaround generally takes about 60 days plus shipping transit (remember the group buys parts were "piggybacked" with our regular production goods). We would expect the parts somewhere around September 10th.

the rear diffuser looks really good but the front filler is $100 more ???

these guys are right down the road from me roughly 7 miles, I am in fairfax VA...

EDIT:

bzzzzzzt total forum newbie, I see now this topic is 8 pages long uggh !

(much easier to read than roadfly though)

You're starting to get the program grasshopper......:stickoutt

Anyone have an update on the order?????????????
Thanks.

Per Dave, the sales manager of electrodyne, dated 8/3/09:


"The latest info I had was the factory was on schedule to finish the
production of our order on 8/31, and that we should receive the shipment
within 7-10 days of that time.

Regards,
Dave"

Dave,

E-mailed me an said Sept 10 is when the kits should be out or by then.....they will be shipping them out

I am waaaay to late to this party. But I didn't take owenrship of an E31 until just over a month ago.

Is there any possibility they produced a couple additional front spoilers on speculation ?

Yes, word was that they'll be doing other parts to replenish their regular inventory - and at regular prices, which aren't that bad to begin with. I'm only using the rear diffuser, and the nose is going to the UK, but I'll have a rear deck spoiler available at my cost plus shipping to your door if that helps any.

Cant Wait!!

This just received from Dave, the Electrodyne Sales Manager:

Randy,

Our order is in transit; we're just waiting for the truck to show up at the
loading dock.
All people who provided an email address will receive an automated email
from FedEx with the shipping details once their order leaves our warehouse
(these have been known to end up in the Junk/Spam folders since they contain
active links, so be sure to check there if you don't see something in your
Inbox).

Regards,
Dave

This just received from Dave, the Electrodyne Sales Manager:

Randy,

Our order is in transit; we're just waiting for the truck to show up at the
loading dock.
All people who provided an email address will receive an automated email
from FedEx with the shipping details once their order leaves our warehouse
(these have been known to end up in the Junk/Spam folders since they contain
active links, so be sure to check there if you don't see something in your
Inbox).

Regards,
Dave

:redspot

Now I just need to find some RD side skirts.....

The E46 tornado kit has some real nice side skirts, wonder if the e46 side skirts can be made to fit on a E31

http://www.oakvillemotorwerks.com/shop/images/products/secondary/126.jpg

anyone get there e-mail yet?....

:( I'm patiently waiting.
Has any one put thought into the work required to mount the hood?

Rob, just got an email from Dave about skirts.... they won't sell the ones saved for mold retooling at this time, so your only hope of ever finding skirts is used. It's about time to have people do a blitz to Dave about shipping the damn parts. Personally I've had it with these guys, I've got a car to paint. Hipshot, what are you talking about hood fitment....... that's all being handled at the fabricator's shop, and pix will be forthcoming quite soon about that. When you get one, it'll be ready to bolt on like normal.

Thats all I was asking. At one point there were a series of questions and concerns about install. Thanks for the polite response....
I am as frustrated as you are, let us know what y'all think best course of action is. On the flip side - good work takes time.

I'm confused about what you're talking about.... The RD group buy is one thing, and the Alpina hood deal is completely unrelated. Good work takes time and that applies to the hoods, but there's no reason for anyone to be frustrated about those because the only money out there is Mark850's.... he's funding it all. As for RD, that's a corporate deal and we have to go with what they hand out timewise. There's frustration there because people have had lots of money out for a long time and we're in the weak position here, it's being done on their schedule.

I'm with you rcrad6653 my loot has been MIA for quite awhile. If I don't see something soon I'm calling my credit card company.

Good things come in time.. It's my money out there on the hoods, and this is why I wanted that way...I need a set of sideskirts if anyone is reading this..I wanna make something different........;)

I'm confused about what you're talking about.... The RD group buy is one thing, and the Alpina hood deal is completely unrelated. Good work takes time and that applies to the hoods, but there's no reason for anyone to be frustrated about those because the only money out there is Mark850's.... he's funding it all. As for RD, that's a corporate deal and we have to go with what they hand out timewise. There's frustration there because people have had lots of money out for a long time and we're in the weak position here, it's being done on their schedule.

Rob, just got an email from Dave about skirts.... they won't sell the ones saved for mold retooling at this time, so your only hope of ever finding skirts is used. It's about time to have people do a blitz to Dave about shipping the damn parts. Personally I've had it with these guys, I've got a car to paint. Hipshot, what are you talking about hood fitment....... that's all being handled at the fabricator's shop, and pix will be forthcoming quite soon about that. When you get one, it'll be ready to bolt on like normal.

Any idea of when they will make these?

also daves e-mail address is dave@racdyn-usa.com

There is a guy in the BC8 group that has them, I did e-mail him a few times, but he is not interested in selling them, I wonder if the e46 2dr side skirts would fit on a E31

RD e31 side skirts
http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee348/pb200305/IMG_2645.jpg
http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee348/pb200305/IMG_2647.jpg
http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee348/pb200305/IMG_2657.jpg
http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee348/pb200305/IMG_2666.jpg

RD e46 side skirts
http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee348/pb200305/1211046003M2.jpg
http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee348/pb200305/1213446100.jpg

dave e-mailed me back

"We're working on them now"

shipping them has started

DINGDINGDINGDING!! Shipping has commenced! I just got off the phone with Dave, the Electrodyne sales manager, and orders started shipping today, and I have received my tracking number already. The balance of the Group Buy orders will go out tomorrow. Y'all should start seeing FedEx tracking info showing up in your emails

+8

My next and last post in this thread will be pictures of the items scheduled to arrive tomorrow..... that's next day shipping from them to me. Anyone that missed this group buy and want's a trunk spoiler contact me offline. I'll only be using the rear diffuser out of the whole kit.

did not get any info from RD, hopefully tomorrow, Randy did Dave tell you anything about the side skirts, if they will retool and remake?

did not get any info from RD, hopefully tomorrow, Randy did Dave tell you anything about the side skirts, if they will retool and remake?Post # 194 in this thread.

As stated, the items arrived very fast here.....next day, were well packed and complete. Good luck to everyone receiving their items, and thanks Rob for getting the ball rolling on this deal. Cheers.

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq138/rcrad6653/P1020743.jpg

Randy,

You already got your kit? I am still waiting for my e-mail.....lol

Dont thank me man, thank everyone and yourself of being part of this without you guys, this would not happen....group hug...lol

Don't say group hug around Ethan!--)

Nice to see successful group buy's, Congrats to all involved!

Just got my e-mail the parts are supposed to arrive this saturday!
Thanks Robert for removing some of the stigma around group purchases!

found this on the RD website

Did you know? The inside story, trivia, and interesting facts about the K55 Sport Coupé.
http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/BlueArrow.gif The initial development of the 8' Program the 850i went through 2 months of testing on the road and on various race tracks before a single part was ever designed. http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/CheckBox.gif The AeroKit of the K55 was developed in Turin, using the leftovers from Italdesign's Nazca C1. http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/CheckBox.gif The K55 Motor was the first Racing Dynamics motor to be developed entirely in-house. http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/CheckBox.gif Ing. Rosa, who lead the development of the K55, later headed the hugely succesful Ducati SBK program. http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/CheckBox.gif The pistons for the K55 are made at Kolbenschmidt, who is also the supplier of the original engine blocks to BMW. http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/CheckBox.gif Kolbenschmidt's technology for the aluminium block is called Alusil® a high-silica content alloy that requires special procedures to be bored and honed. It differs from Mahle's better known Nikasil® as it does not have a coating on the cylinder bores. http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/CheckBox.gif The K55 was the first aluminium block engine built by Racing Dynamics. Mahle could not supply the pistons immediately because they were working on a development for Alpina, so Racing Dynamics switched to KS. http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/CheckBox.gif Federico Pavoncelli won a bet with his development team as he guessed before the motor was ever fired up that it would rate at exactly 401HP. http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/CheckBox.gif The Bosch rolling chassis that Racing Dynamics had at that time was rated at 400 HP. Because of the K55SC Racing Dynamics had to ask Bosch for an upgrade. http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/CheckBox.gif Racing Dynamics was invited by BMW AG to discuss the modifications performed to the K55. http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/CheckBox.gif BMW Italia lobbied with Racing Dynamics on behalf of one of its top customers, as he refused to take delivery of his 850i until he was assured that he would get the K55 SC conversion. http://www.racing-dynamics.com/Images/ClipArt/CheckBox.gif In a test to test comparison between the K55SC and the 850CSi by French magazine Option Auto, the K55 came away the winner in both performance and fuel economy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Nazca_C2

Received an email from FEDEX - Items were shipped on 9/15 and scheduled to arrive tomorrow!!!!!!!

I am getting mine on sept 23, finally got my e-mail:redspot

Got my stuff last night around 6:30 PM. :redspot

Quality looks great. Can't wait to test fit it, but it won't happen this weekend though....:(

post pictures...lol

ALL the RD gear arrived today. front rear valence and rear spoiler. Gooo.
Now if we can get an ALpina hood we will be ready to re spray, assuming I dont have to spend another 3k on repairs any time soon..:)
Special thanks to all teh guys that did the hard work, and invested in making htis happen. Great job. It shows that a group can do more than one person - even when we all live all over the country.
Thanks

please post pictures..of the kit..lol

I would be interested in all of them. How does this differ from the CSI kit? I was just about to buy that here in Seattle.

Now the only thing left to complete my body transformation is

1. Mark's rear window spoiler
2. Mark's Alpina hood
3. RD steering wheel and adapter
3. RD side skirts (which I will never find...lol)

here is the body kit, it comes with brackets and bolts and install guide I have not opened yet.

http://s534.photobucket.com/albums/ee348/pb200305/RD%20body%20kit/

I would be interested in all of them. How does this differ from the CSI kit? I was just about to buy that here in Seattle.

E-mail Dave at dave@racdyn-usa.com, its to late for the group discount, but e-mail him and see what happens

The RD rear deck spoiler is IMO the best out there if that's your style. It and the AC Schnitzer are the only ones that follow the lines of the car and extend across properly. You won't find an authentic ACS one unless you're lucky, and iirc Electrodyne made extras beyond the group buy. Rob, glad you got your stuff OK. Mine just came from paint and a perfect match, now the fun begins.

Randy,

I need to get mine sprayed also, but will not get it done until I get all my parts.....I hope they hold up well. So my question is were the mounting holes are, I wonder if they are reinforced well to handle well against daily driving on the streets and highway...

we will see

Got my goodies too, couple days ago! Looks Good :)

Rob, the deck spoiler holes are right on the edge of the lid, so it's as strong as it's ever going to be. A word about the instructions in general though, they suck. When installing the rear diffuser, it has to be mounted completely differently that how the instructions say. Also get up under there and start soaking the nut with PB Blaster that holds the bumper to the impact shock. That naturally catches moisture from the rear tire and mine was rusted a little.

EDIT: After all said and done I ended up tossin' those brackets. They way they expect this thing to be mounted you're working blind, and if you preinstall the brackets, and then manage to get the whole deal past the exhaust on both sides, it doesn't allow the OEM valance to lock in as it's supposed to. VMMV, but this was my experience. Although the PB Blaster got the rusted nuts loose and off, an added bonus with the bracket elimination is not messin' with those.... it would be quite easy to twist off the bumper bolt, and it has happened.