whats your tire size

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3643/3436239929_e5b95fde02_b.jpg

Save the 20 inch wheels for the DONKS in my hometown. On some cars like these, they look interesting, but not 8's. There is someone here that has the 20 inch wheels on his car. His picture is in the 8 picture thread, on the last page.

Dont get 20's you will be sorry, Ellibeamer had them

Rice, How old and who are you really?

I have 20" - 1" lol 19" if that counts

I would love to see 20's on an 8.

Rob Scott's car has 20"

IIRC, one of our members who is a War Vet/current servicemen has them currently.

Rice, How old and who are you really?

17 year of age. Did my previous post on this thread seem a little childish???

Rob Scott's car has 20"

What spoiler/front end does he have?

17 year of age. Did my previous post on this thread seem a little childish???

Heh, year older then I was guessing.

17 year of age. Did my previous post on this thread seem a little childish???I don't think your being honest!

Heh, year older then I was guessing.

Wow, that must be pretty bad. What, does my knowledge on the E31 give you the perception?

I don't think your being honest!

No, I'm being completely honest. What makes you think that I'm "lying" about my age 8eights? BTW, I was born January of 1992, but I'm sure thats not convincing enough my friend.

My son Robs J-spec with 20" wheels....
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/Wuffer44/Rob1.jpg

Another view
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/Wuffer44/Rob2.jpg

With sister Janis' US spec 840 with 19"s
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/Wuffer44/RobJanis.jpg

and the old mans Canadian Spec 18"s
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/Wuffer44/R102.jpg

Apples dont fall far from the tree.... 8-)

Jans car came out good, Thanks Tom!

Tom, what is your boy Rob's front spoiler? His car looks nice (though I would pass on the wheels :stickoutt IMHO)!

Wow, that must be pretty bad. What, does my knowledge on the E31 give you the perception?

Language/Fluency/Style/response to 'stimuli.' Nothing to do with your E31 knowledge.

MK Motorsport - available from Laszlo

Not every car can be a Donk, Box or Bubble just like no other car can be an 8. I've seen some "YOOOGLY" Donks, Boxes and Bubbles. But it takes a lot to make me wince at an 8. To each his own tho' yanno?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3643/3436239929_e5b95fde02_b.jpg

Save the 20 inch wheels for the DONKS in my hometown. On some cars like these, they look interesting, but not 8's. There is someone here that has the 20 inch wheels on his car. His picture is in the 8 picture thread, on the last page.



What a waste of a very rare muscle car, a convertible Buick Stage 1 GSX if memory serves me right there were only like a 100 convertible GSX's made. Give me that car and I'll give it good home.

I think it woulda been interesting if the car sat lower but that woulda missed his point I guess.

What a waste of a very rare muscle car, a convertible Buick Stage 1 GSX if memory serves me right there were only like a 100 convertible GSX's made. Give me that car and I'll give it good home.

What's wrong with it? Looks like an enthusiast owned car with a touch of personality in it that is actually being driven.

Much better than the 50+ age group that does nothing but let the car sit in the garage.

+1

Yanno...the more I look at that car the more I like it. That black paint looks "milky" nice... I 'd like to see the engine and that top down.

i've got 20's not sure on the tire size since they came with the car and i have had almost no time with my 8 yet but soon very soon i will be back to it

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/20/l_1ea166eb5d094efab0b8e03cbfb8ee35.jpghttp://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_dc0d30a78391407a83c545a2cd101552.jpg

Much better than the 50+ age group that does nothing but let the car sit in the garage.

Hey now... I resemble that remark...:stickoutt

840 with new style 20" MK1's............................


http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq138/rcrad6653/10893158397259770561IM1MAIN565x421_.jpg http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq138/rcrad6653/10893158399259770561IM103565x421_A5.jpg

I am glad I stuck with light 19" wheels and some quality tires. Cant find a quieter drive+handling anywhere.

I have a set of 20's on my car. I like the look if you can avoid pot holes. Otherwise you will be challenged if you are in need of them when traveling a great distance away from home. I personally like everyone's ride and I can respect their individuality. For me it's all about the comradery and the brotherhood. Sharing the same interest and hobbies.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m54/Fbalanay/DSCN4759.jpg

Peace!

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq138/rcrad6653/10893158399259770561IM103565x421_A5.jpg

ohhh....Looks nice with 20's:cool

Hey now... I resemble that remark...:stickoutt

840 with new style 20" MK1's............................



What size tires are you running? Do you have a closeup of the MK1s?

Thx

Different strokes... A little personality is nice. If I owned a Grand National, I'd keep it stock. But I'd slightly mod an E24, at least get rid of the metric wheels. E31 may look funny with 20" but some think it's marevelous. Comfort first, I say. Red 8, blue 8, green 8... We all love our 8's and that's all that matters! The rest is just personal preferences (nice shirt or you're kidding right, with those ridiculous shoes, haha).

I think 18's look funny and out dated..)~~~~~~~~~~J/k ~ I like the one i have with 20's just the way it is "and the extra ponies under the hood too!" Just tired of 20 bashers, Peace...

What size tires are you running? Do you have a closeup of the MK1s?

Thx

That was only representative of those particular 20" MKs cantbl8. I'm of the school that 18" is the largest that would go on my car, and after all the trouble going to having the restoration on the E31 specific set done, I'm gonna use'm! (but then everything's for sale at the right price.....hehe)

Just tired of 20 bashers, Peace...

+1

I have 19" on my 840Ci. She is now update! 17s, 18s, 19s or 20s look really good on an 8 series. Most exotic/Hi-performance cars now a days come with at least 18".

Audi, BMW and Merc.

840ways to C :redspot

Hey now... I resemble that remark...:stickoutt

840 with new style 20" MK1's............................


No Mr. Cradick, your definately one of the younger members at heart :D



Different strokes... A little personality is nice. If I owned a Grand National, I'd keep it stock. But I'd slightly mod an E24, at least get rid of the metric wheels. E31 may look funny with 20" but some think it's marevelous. Comfort first, I say. Red 8, blue 8, green 8... We all love our 8's and that's all that matters! The rest is just personal preferences (nice shirt or you're kidding right, with those ridiculous shoes, haha).

The Grand National, I drove one that my grandfather owned. My grandmother was trying to it sell for a couple of months, so we found an intrested buyer in Virgina. Fast car with Alky chip, upgraded turbo, 3.5 inch downpipe, Cottons exhaust, 14 pounds of pure boost easily. They're amazing cars though.

Anyway, its all in peoples intrest. If you want to put something on these cars others don't like, as long as you do and your being true to your personality, great.

Great post, Now when i buy something for my car, I'm assured it's OK to install it.

Great post, Now when i buy something for my car, I'm assured it's OK to install it.

What are you talking about installing???:lol

At the moment, Just gasoline, I do plan to molest a 840 this summer though, I want bring it out until it's over 500 Hp, That will take about 3 weeks once all the parts are ready.

The Grand National, I drove one that my grandfather owned. My grandmother was trying to it sell for a couple of months, so we found an intrested buyer in Virgina. Fast car with Alky chip, upgraded turbo, 3.5 inch downpipe, Cottons exhaust, 14 pounds of pure boost easily. They're amazing cars though.

I want one :cool One fine day...

Just be sure to take it in the movies with you and the Liquor store, Market, Mall, Wine tasting events and a seat at the dinner table, They disappeard for a reason? They are Higly sought after by the bad guys.

Anyway, its all in peoples intrest. If you want to put something on these cars others don't like, as long as you do and your being true to your personality, great.


Look bro, I'm not trying to stir the pot but you seem to contradict yourself quite often. Your first post in this thread is essentially calling anyone with 20" wheels a donk, then you change your mind once you've found it's more tasteful to agree with the veterans in this forum. From all I've been able to discern you care more about what WE think about you, than you do yourself. If you're trying to make people of this forum think more highly of you, then develop your own voice and opinions... instead of reiterating and affirming everyone elses. Just my .08.

my 8 has a set of 18s, 19s,and 20s. (see sig for dubs)...now i lust over a set of 17s ACS multipiecers!

my truck has the DONK ass 24s.

there is a fool who once installed 22s on his 8. It looked HORRIBLE!

22s? Why stop there, get a lift kit for your 8 and put some 40s on her! :buttrock

Look bro, I'm not trying to stir the pot but you seem to contradict yourself quite often. Your first post in this thread is essentially calling anyone with 20" wheels a donk, then you change your mind once you've found it's more tasteful to agree with the veterans in this forum. From all I've been able to discern you care more about what WE think about you, than you do yourself. If you're trying to make people of this forum think more highly of you, then develop your own voice and opinions... instead of reiterating and affirming everyone elses. Just my .08.

I don't see you as trying to stir the pot 1chiban and I'm actually glad that you've posted this so I can explain my "contradictions".

Now, I didn't call anyones car with 20 inch wheels a donk. Heres my previous quote: "Save the 20 inch wheels for the DONKS in my hometown. On some cars like these, they look interesting, but not 8's. There is someone here that has the 20 inch wheels on his car. His picture is in the 8 picture thread, on the last page."

In other words I said, 20's belong on cars like the one pictured, which was actually a donk, or classic (or popular) american vehicle with oversized wheels on it, which are usually driven in the Southern States. The GSX did look clean, I will fully admit, but like I said, for an 8 series this looks cheesey because of the stance of the car, because of the low profile tires, etc. I've already said time after time that I love tires with extra meat on them and I've never liked anything over 18's on these cars.

"Anyway, its all in peoples intrest. If you want to put something on these cars others don't like, as long as you do and your being true to your personality, great."

Here, I basically said that whatever you like is whatever you like. Other members and I didn't purchase your car or you modifications, so why should we try to regulate on what you can and cannot buy? Its not like we can prevent you from continuing to ride on 20's. But, for someone who was probrably highly considering buying oversized wheels for his 8, I simply say go for a smaller size, but in another way. Now, the message behind it was purely common sense because it didn't look good to me, but hey, it may have looked good to his eye because of his mindset. I wasn't about to make comments on ride quality and handling because I don't have an 8 series and I've never driven one with 20" wheels and I'd have people saying stop assuming because you apparently don't own an E31.

Where in any thread that I've posted in, especially this one, have I changed my mind due to the comments of veterans of this section? Where have I changed my mind to PLEASE you guys, or tried get the kudo's of style from you guys? Just like on the post with the Hellrot Red 850 with the 18's, the stretched ones, I've always been against the stretched look and I voiced it even though it was a nice car. I honestly don't care about what you guys think, although I do want to be liked and make friends or connections from diffrent parts of the world with the same passion as I, because in the end, who judges me and my character? Apparently no one on earth LOL. So why fear what you all have to say?

Now, where have I contradicted myself and tried to impress the veterans? We might as well settle this one on the thread since you've brought it to everyones attention.

I was speaking to what it appeared to be. I have no need or desire to make a fuss, so if I am mistaken I apologize. I know that being young may sometime be difficult because you feel you have no credibility (which is true, been there done that). It's easier to be on the bandwagon than go against the grain, especially if you're 17, love the 8, frequent the forums, but don't have one. I mean zero disrespect, I think you bring a nice flavor to the forum and I'm happy to have you here.

He's a trouble maker!

Mr. Martian!

22's are the way to go. 20's are too small.

I was speaking to what it appeared to be. I have no need or desire to make a fuss, so if I am mistaken I apologize. I know that being young may sometime be difficult because you feel you have no credibility (which is true, been there done that). It's easier to be on the bandwagon than go against the grain, especially if you're 17, love the 8, frequent the forums, but don't have one. I mean zero disrespect, I think you bring a nice flavor to the forum and I'm happy to have you here.

Theres no fussing or desire to make an arguement by any means, so you don't have to apologize. Yes, while I am 17 years of age and its not popular to go against the croud, no I am not trying to get within good favor of the big timers on this forum. It is easier to be on the bandwagon, but I'm not that type of person. If I agree, I agree, but if I don't I will give reasons why unless I have no experiance on the deeper details of whatever the situation deals with. Also, I am frequent on the forum because I'm looking usually at post way back from 2006 and up trying to learn more about these cars (thats what speaking to Mr. Cradick about the E31 does to you, his knowledge makes you want to figure things out), not because I want to waist time making myself out to be something I am not. I know you meant no disrespect, but there have been 2-3 members here that have given me the cold, get the F*** out of here, feeling because of their comments, but overall, you and alot of the others here are great. Sure things like this may pop up and we have the whole arguement, but those 2-3 members that I'm talking about make it seem as if outsiders are not wanted, especially the young guys that have zero experiance with the car. Like I said, no harm done, just wanted to see the contradictions:D

He's a trouble maker!

Trouble maker? By the way, you didn't answer my PM, sort of to get to the bottom of our issue from yesterday. Please contact me.

Did'nt answer your PM cause i have my own kids and no time for you!

Sorry I didn't get back on the post your pict's page but I'm running 20" Chrome M Pars. Here's a another couple of quick shots. They don't rub and ride nice, very quiet too. Nitto Tires. :suave
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/144543/2009_0414Image0002.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/144543/2009_0414Image0001.jpg

275/30ZR-20 to answer your question

Did'nt answer your PM cause i have my own kids and no time for you!

Apparently you did since you responded to my post, but whatever. I'm cooled down, no harm done. Since your probrably dealing with your children I'll post it here, hopefully we can look past this BS.

Imndeep, are those real MPars? I didn't think they came in anything over 18"s.

Dude, I don't know. They came with the car when I bought it. The guy showed me the receipts that he payed 4G's last year. They have the treal M logo embedded in them so.... Who know's? I'm 47 years young and just learning these 8's, If I want fatty's I'll fire up my '68 Road Runner and smoke my Mickey Thompsons. The 8 is for a more refined crowd, but that's my opinion, and I'm sure I'll get some disagreement. The Plymouth is for raw power.:wow

Looks good to me. I have the same wheels. :buttrock

But then again I like all the 850's. "People take things too seriously and have lost touch with the fact that cars are just cars"

Peace!

Sorry I didn't get back on the post your pict's page but I'm running 20" Chrome M Pars. Here's a another couple of quick shots. They don't rub and ride nice, very quiet too. Nitto Tires. :suave
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/144543/2009_0414Image0002.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/144543/2009_0414Image0001.jpg

275/30ZR-20 to answer your question

just to add left over rice ....im 17 and own an 8 series ive had it when i was 16 and i love this car and i think the younger generation should love it too

so motorism850 n imndeep are the front tires the same size

so motorism850 n imndeep are the front tires the same size
Well, I guess there not, sorry guys. So the fronts are 235/35ZR-20 and the Backs are 275/30ZR-20's. I was thinking about doing Koizumi's suspension mods with the hope that I don't rub afterwards. :phatyo:

The 20in Mpars are "replica interpretations" of the real M Par wheel. BMW never made it in anything but 18in. Also, while the OEM M Par is an ultra strong, durable, light (at least, relatively for weight class it is made to accommodate) forged wheel design, nearly all (I have never seen one that is not in the last 9 years) replicas are a basic pressed cast wheel.

I very much hope the PO did not pay $4000 for those wheels! Couple of notes about them:
1. I very much hope you are using rear shock tower supports, as the stress on your suspension, especially in the rear will be extreme given the high weight of the wheel/tire combo.
2. Be very careful when removing the wheels...nothing to do with the wheels, but your back will suffer if your not careful! :embarrasm

BTW, your tire sizes are nearly 5% off OE specs. As such:
1. Be cautious dropping your car, you are already running far too tall tires amplifying the likelihood of rubbing (offset depending)
2. Be very cautious with your TC computer in turns. Greater then 3% from factory will cause it to, well, in laymans terms "freak out." :)

DSC OFF!

my m73 burns the 20" Yokohamas!

BTW, your tire sizes are nearly 5% off OE specs. As such:
1. Be cautious dropping your car, you are already running far too tall tires amplifying the likelihood of rubbing (offset depending)
2. Be very cautious with your TC computer in turns. Greater then 3% from factory will cause it to, well, in laymans terms "freak out." :)
Auraraptor, Being we're on the discussion of 20's, what tire size would you recommend then? As I stated previously I'm new and learning the 8, so what is this TC computer you speak of? And thanks for the tip on the rear shock towers and lowering, I'll have to find out what Koizuma's running for shoes. I really like the look of his 8er.

As Eli states, you should be fine for now if you turn off you TC system. (PS Elibeemer, I still have that ACS cover for you on my desk! I lost your address though, if you still need it, PM me your address... many apologies about the delay!)

The TC Computer is the Traction Control system, ASC or DSC depending on the year.

Here is the long and short about it:

Too far deviation from OEM tire sizes will cause the system to read (what it thinks) are improper speed signals from the wheels, and intervene too often, until the system is overwhelmed and effectively burns out.

The cutoff for such is about +/- 2.8-3% of OEM, or so it has been recorded via anecdotal evidence.

But you may in fact be ok.. Based on my testing, I have found that is not quite accurate (though again that is what is recorded in the "annuls", so to say).

Rather then it being a +/- 2.8% deviation from the OEM size, it is in fact a -2.8% deviation relative to the front tire. In other words, if the overal diameter of your rear tire is 3% less then that of your front, your TC System (be it ASC or DSC) will go haywire as mentioned above, as it will think there is excessive rear wheel spin due to the rear tires turning faster then the fronts (secondary to their diameter differences, not actual traction loss).

Realize I have only tested this on 2 cars, and cannot confidently extrapolate this to all E31s just yet. To be safe, I would do as Elibeemer says. :)

The 20in Mpars are "replica interpretations" of the real M Par wheel. BMW never made it in anything but 18in. Also, while the OEM M Par is an ultra strong, durable, light (at least, relatively for weight class it is made to accommodate) forged wheel design, nearly all (I have never seen one that is not in the last 9 years) replicas are a basic pressed cast wheel.

I very much hope the PO did not pay $4000 for those wheels! Couple of notes about them:
1. I very much hope you are using rear shock tower supports, as the stress on your suspension, especially in the rear will be extreme given the high weight of the wheel/tire combo.
2. Be very careful when removing the wheels...nothing to do with the wheels, but your back will suffer if your not careful! :embarrasm

BTW, your tire sizes are nearly 5% off OE specs. As such:
1. Be cautious dropping your car, you are already running far too tall tires amplifying the likelihood of rubbing (offset depending)
2. Be very cautious with your TC computer in turns. Greater then 3% from factory will cause it to, well, in laymans terms "freak out." :)

So are the pressed cast replica M Pars not as durrable or strong compared to the forged wheels? Also, with suspension parts like the shock towers, bushings, etc, what is the typical time spand of wear to the point where the units have to be replaced from all of the stress? And what does the TC do when the unit "freaks out"?

Very good post and a great one at that! My wheels came with the car as well and has been a blvd cruiser for the most part. I haven't experience any ill effects thus far but I have been looking for a new set that will suit my needs. Thanks for sharing.

Peace!


The 20in Mpars are "replica interpretations" of the real M Par wheel. BMW never made it in anything but 18in. Also, while the OEM M Par is an ultra strong, durable, light (at least, relatively for weight class it is made to accommodate) forged wheel design, nearly all (I have never seen one that is not in the last 9 years) replicas are a basic pressed cast wheel.

I very much hope the PO did not pay $4000 for those wheels! Couple of notes about them:
1. I very much hope you are using rear shock tower supports, as the stress on your suspension, especially in the rear will be extreme given the high weight of the wheel/tire combo.
2. Be very careful when removing the wheels...nothing to do with the wheels, but your back will suffer if your not careful! :embarrasm

BTW, your tire sizes are nearly 5% off OE specs. As such:
1. Be cautious dropping your car, you are already running far too tall tires amplifying the likelihood of rubbing (offset depending)
2. Be very cautious with your TC computer in turns. Greater then 3% from factory will cause it to, well, in laymans terms "freak out." :)

"It's easier to be on the bandwagon than go against the grain,"
tell me about it.....:(

Very good post and a great one at that! My wheels came with the car as well and has been a blvd cruiser for the most part. I haven't experience any ill effects thus far but I have been looking for a new set that will suit my needs. Thanks for sharing.

Peace!
Whats you budget homezzz
i got sum info that might help a bit...

Living in Atlanta, I can say I'd never go +4 in size on a wheel, especially on a lowered vehicle.

I went +3 on a VW with Eibach springs, and installed some 17" SSR GT1s, which are strong, forged, expensive rims (and not some cheaper cast wheels). The car beat me to death and bent the crap out of the wheels driving back and forth to Atlanta (with all the constant road construction, random metal plates over the potholes, and then the potholes with no metal plates).

I'm pretty happy with my 18"s being +2 up from factory size -- I like a bit of a meaty tire as well. If you're going to spend the big bucks for a nice set of rims, leave some space to wrap a decent enough size wheel around it that can offer it some protection.

Nothing wrong with agreeing with something that makes sense and take it for what it's worth. I'm old enough to know that everyone has certain priorities in life and I can respect their individualities. 17, 18, 19 or 20's are all good. It's all about the ride.

Peace!:buttrock


"It's easier to be on the bandwagon than go against the grain,"
tell me about it.....:(


Whats you budget homezzz
i got sum info that might help a bit...

I had a nice set of 20" rear and 19" fronts for my project car. I liked them at first, but after pondering it over I put 18"s on it. 20's just a little too much for my taste. I still have a set of 20" MK's if anyone is interested. Brand new. Never Driven on, tires only put on two.