No affiliation. I was just browsing the web and came across these. Sorry to anyone who might have been secretly watching this item. I guess now others are aware to.:stickoutt

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-8-Series-e31-Light-Birdseye-Maple-Wood-Trim-Package_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66 Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c2 93Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZ item160326660487QQitemZ160326660487QQptZMotorsQ5fC arQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335818596&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2FBMW-8-Series-e31-Light-Birdseye-Maple-Wood-Trim-Package_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66 Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c2 93Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZ item160326660487QQitemZ160326660487QQptZMotorsQ5fC arQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

$500 starting bid? Is that in the market. Mine look that good and I'm sending them off to be redone.

that is a good price. I have seen incomplete sets go for thousands...

Great find tdotbimmer:D Whoever has been keeping those pieces under close watch must be angry with you.

And TxGR8White, incomplete wood trim kits for these cars go for thousands??? I had no idea but its common sense once you begin to realize how many of these were made compared to other BMW's. BTW, is Mr. Greg still out of town? I haven't seen him around in a while.

I am just helping the community out./ I remember when Koizumi posted the CSI mirrors on here when I had been watching them for days. I ended being priced out of the market. Still sold for a steal at $500 USD

Great find tdotbimmer:D Whoever has been keeping those pieces under close watch must be angry with you.

And TxGR8White, incomplete wood trim kits for these cars go for thousands??? I had no idea but its common sense once you begin to realize how many of these were made compared to other BMW's. BTW, is Mr. Greg still out of town? I haven't seen him around in a while.

The light birsdeye shown was a standard offering on the later cars, the only color offered-US (non CSI) I believe, and the set doesn't include the knee and door pieces as on the CSI. A CSI set is one that would get really pricey if offered used. Yes, I cringe when something gets posted on the boards that I've been watching. Helping the community? It helps the seller and drives the cost up. It's not like rare E31 parts are going on an '87 635 L6. Anybody even half way decent at searching can find stuff. I was lucky to get CC89793 for a decent price after it hit RF, here, and two other boards, and I'd been trying to contact the seller since the day it hit Craigslist... way before that.

I got my 97 850CI with just 16.000 miles under $20.000 on Craiglist.. Very few folks look at Craiglist.... I have an automated script that sends me every night all 850 listings across all states in US..
My patience and waiting with zero competition paid big time... That baby is in my garage now with 5000 miles more since is my daily driver...
Beat that :-)

.... and your point?

Obviously there is no point for you if you ain't getting one. Green light, just move on mate....Nothing to see here.....

.... and your point?

No affiliation. I was just browsing the web and came across these. Sorry to anyone who might have been secretly watching this item.
That's one thing I don't get - the whole wood trim thing. The 8er has a modern fighter cockpit and someone stuffs wood in it like it was an old Taylorcraft.

Imo it's ugly and anachonistic. CSi or no CSi I would rip it out.

The light birsdeye shown was a standard offering on the later cars, the only color offered-US (non CSI) I believe, and the set doesn't include the knee and door pieces as on the CSI. A CSI set is one that would get really pricey if offered used. .

There are two option codes for Wood Trim:


Standard Wood Execution - Option code 438 - this is the standard wood trim option for the 8er, where included depending on the model, model year, and equipment bundle. It covers the console, ash tray, storage cubicle (where the telephone goes) and the storage compartment between the front seats. This is what is for sale on eBay right now. Standard colours for this wood were:

VOGELAUGENAHORN (Birds Eye Maple, high gloss) - on eBay now
EIBE (Yew, dark wood, high gloss) - some people call it Cherry, others call it dark brown
For the USA-spec M60 840CiA, this was an extra cost option for approximately $900 USD (without adjusting for inflation, 1993-94 dollars)
For the Canadian-spec M60 840CiA, this was a standard feature
For the North American M62 840CiA, all but 10 cars got this option as a standard feature out of the 801 produced
For the North American M70 850, this option was available as an option or standard feature for the 1994 model year only
For the North American M73 850, 338 of the 363 came with this option/standard feature
The wood trim colours are dependent on the interior upholstery, although most are Birds Eye Maple for the 1996-97 M62 8er's.





Extended Wood Execution - Option code 773 - this is the upgraded wood trim option. It includes everything discussed for Option 438, plus the doors and the bottom of the dash. This kit rarely comes up for sale and is difficult to get from BMW AG as the parts are becoming less and less replenished in stock.

Same colours as above were offered, Birds Eye Maple and Yew
This option was typically standard on the USA-spec S70 850CSi; some 1995-97 M73 850's have this wood, especially those M73's processed by BMW Individual
It was optionally offered in Europe at a cost of approximately $2,500 to $3,000 (1996 dollars). It was more if the customer ordered BMW Individual flavors of this wood trim (which is entirely a whole different discussion because of the many different variations that were produced)
There were no North American M60/M62 840's that came from the factory with this option code
For the North American M73 850, 23 of the 363 came with this option/standard feature (and if you're keeping count, with 338 came with code 438 and 23 with code 773, there were 2 M73 that did not come with either option)
In recent years, a few of these wood kits have been offered and sold for $4.5k because of the inability to get them from BMW
If your wood trim was a one-off from BMW Individual, then BMW will remake the wood trim for you at a steep price



In summary, if you want the wood kit for 8er as described in this auction, then go for it. The price is right.

That's one thing I don't get - the whole wood trim thing. The 8er has a modern fighter cockpit and someone stuffs wood in it like it was an old Taylorcraft.

Imo it's ugly and anachonistic. CSi or no CSi I would rip it out.

To each his own preference. Wood use in vehicles varies from culture to culture. For the 8er during the 1990's, the use of wood trim was seen as a luxury addition to bolster the refinement image.

+1, the normal wood looks nice in a 4-door, but not a land-jet.
The wood interior pieces I have off of the Individual EURO 850 are a graphite colored maple - very subtle, I would almost consider installing those in mine...

Agreed, I have the wood setup in my 97 and I don't care much for it, specially on a black interior.... Wish I had just regular stuff...In my 91 just like Steff's since I have the same color combo, I really like the regular setup...

+1, the normal wood looks nice in a 4-door, but not a land-jet.
The wood interior pieces I have off of the Individual EURO 850 are a graphite colored maple - very subtle, I would almost consider installing those in mine...

Given your preference Ethan, let's discuss a trade then. Thanks Jud as always for your facts.

Sure, you buy mine and I will buy Steff's "graphite colored maple" if his is for sale...
As for a trade I don't think that's a fair trade mate :-)

I didn't say even trade, don't construe otherwise. Stock components against optioned components would imply additional cash from my side no? Of course it would. At any rate, best discussed offline.

I got my 97 850CI with just 16.000 miles under $20.000 on Craiglist.. Very few folks look at Craiglist.... I have an automated script that sends me every night all 850 listings across all states in US..
My patience and waiting with zero competition paid big time... That baby is in my garage now with 5000 miles more since is my daily driver...
Beat that :-)Kinda like this one..


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-BMW-850i-2-2-Coupe_W0QQitemZ280332593639QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_C ars_Trucks?hash=item280332593639&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

He still has ya beat Mark...... his is a '97.

That's one thing I don't get - the whole wood trim thing. The 8er has a modern fighter cockpit and someone stuffs wood in it like it was an old Taylorcraft.

Imo it's ugly and anachonistic. CSi or no CSi I would rip it out.

WHAT??? Wood trim looks amazing inside of these cars. But, unless you have an individual color like Napa Hasselnut, you can only pull the trim off with Parchment. But, everyone has their preference :(

+1, the normal wood looks nice in a 4-door, but not a land-jet.
The wood interior pieces I have off of the Individual EURO 850 are a graphite colored maple - very subtle, I would almost consider installing those in mine...

INSTALL :buttrock

WHAT??? Wood trim looks amazing inside of these cars.


Well, Rice - I just don't amaze that easily.

I note that you don't have an 8er, so it's not the same thing as when you are actually considering alteration of your own - something that you have to live with. Get one and then consider how much you want to add that dernier cri du jour. You may find that you feel otherwise whether it be kevlar 'look' inserts, 'reverse video' instrument inserts, blue leds, rear scoops for that imaginary intercooler in the trunk, spoilers, etc.

Back to the original story - imo wood (and chrome bezels and the like) belong in old Jags, Bentleys and any Rolls. Also in some old US 50s and 60s cars and as Steffen says - 7ers. None of these comes anywhere near the finctional styling of the 8er cockpit.

Yes, you said that everyone has his own taste. Just expressing my own as you had.

Jud - thanks for the lesson on the options. Had I been ordering an 850 6sp new that would indubitably be a special order with sunroof, CD changer and wood trim delete.

WHAT??? Wood trim looks amazing inside of these cars. But, unless you have an individual color like Napa Hasselnut, you can only pull the trim off with Parchment. But, everyone has their preference :(



INSTALL :buttrock

Like I said... I would ALMOST consider it. I have no plans to install those pieces, even though they are a complete set.

Well, Rice - I just don't amaze that easily.

I note that you don't have an 8er, so it's not the same thing as when you are actually considering alteration of your own - something that you have to live with. Get one and then consider how much you want to add that dernier cri du jour. You may find that you feel otherwise whether it be kevlar 'look' inserts, 'reverse video' instrument inserts, blue leds, rear scoops for that imaginary intercooler in the trunk, spoilers, etc.

Back to the original story - imo wood (and chrome bezels and the like) belong in old Jags, Bentleys and any Rolls. Also in some old US 50s and 60s cars and as Steffen says - 7ers. None of these comes anywhere near the finctional styling of the 8er cockpit.

Yes, you said that everyone has his own taste. Just expressing my own as you had.



Wow Can8, I may not have an E31 yet, but I'm a very sure that I could more than live with the wood trim inside of this car. When we see cars where someone has a certain something on them that we don't like, we often correct it in our mind to fit what we like....ok. So, does it matter if I do or don't own an 8 series? No because I'm on the road to soon owning one, and I'd consider doing the trim swap when the free money is avalible. Even when I met up with Chuck850 on Friday, I loved the car, but I pictured it with graphite maple wood trim instead of the carbon (which also looks great). Yes, the cost of the wood trim (and installation if your not handy) will almost give you a heart attack, but either way, I see what I see my friend. And yeah, the cockpit of the E31 looks more-so modern than classic, but it sure as hell could pull of the look. Not trying to start anything:), but just wanted to purchase a short recover after your takedown.

Wow Can8, I may not have an E31 yet, but I'm a very sure that I could more than live with the wood trim inside of this car. When we see cars where someone has a certain something on them that we don't like, we often correct it in our mind to fit what we like....ok. So, does it matter if I do or don't own an 8 series? No because I'm on the road to soon owning one, and I'd consider doing the trim swap when the free money is avalible. Even when I met up with Chuck850 on Friday, I loved the car, but I pictured it with graphite maple wood trim instead of the carbon (which also looks great). Yes, the cost of the wood trim (and installation if your not handy) will almost give you a heart attack, but either way, I see what I see my friend. And yeah, the cockpit of the E31 looks more-so modern than classic, but it sure as hell could pull of the look. Not trying to start anything:), but just wanted to purchase a short recover after your takedown.

Just buy 1 of the of 338 VOGELAUGENAHORN'd M73s!!!
or better yet, 1 of the 23 option'd 773!

Not trying to start anything:), but just wanted to purchase a short recover after your takedown.
Takedown??? You're kidding, right? I was merely providing a simple counterpoint to the wood trim lovefest and merely pointing out that it's diferent when you do it to your own.

Don't they teach you about differences in opinion in school these days? Oh wait, I forgot, this is the new PC era of self esteem at any cost - all race entrants are 'winners'.

Stop being so damn sensitive. You said something and I said something in return reflecting a different view. Did I start by whining about how you made me feel sooooo insecure because you don't like 8ers 'plain' and that hurt my feelings?

Takedown??? You're kidding, right? I was merely providing a simple counterpoint to the wood trim lovefest and merely pointing out that it's diferent when you do it to your own.

Don't they teach you about differences in opinion in school these days? Oh wait, I forgot, this is the new PC era of self esteem at any cost - all race entrants are 'winners'.

Stop being so damn sensitive. You said something and I said something in return reflecting a different view. Did I start by whining about how you made me feel sooooo insecure because you don't like 8ers 'plain' and that hurt my feelings?

LOL (short for laugh out loud for the PC era)!! It was a joke, the takedown part. Honestly I don't care what anyone thinks of me, especially you. But when you say "I note that you don't have an 8er, so it's not the same thing as when you are actually considering alteration of your own - something that you have to live with" your obviously going to take it diffrently, or should I say offensively. Once again, just because I don't have an E31 doesn't mean that I'm not entitled to express my opinion, it doesn't mean that I don't know whats required for the job, it doesn't mean that I don't know about the money involved. Its not diffrent because this isn't an issue about an E31 starting problem and me comparing it to a E38 740's experiance, its wood trim that I'd consider putting in any car I plan to buy (the E31 now). My M5 had wood trim, and I loved it, so thats my 2 cent of experiance with it. Like I said earlier, I could live with it and you may not be able to. But at the end of the day, WHO REALLY GIVES A F**K? We just laugh it off and get over it. And excuse my language everyone, but people piss me off when they make comments like this, in general, but not usually on the 8 section of this forum. PC era of self esteem?? Really? My friend, your the one who constantly posted about peoples personal life, etc a while back ago. I don't know what happened in your child hood, but were you the kid people constantly picked on for no reason, were you the one kid who got beat up after school, the one who couldn't take up after himself?? LOL, so let me guess, to recover from all of the pain from your early days, you posted offensive material to others on the forum to feel better about youself. I'm not being sensitive and I'm not whining to the moderators to ban you, so don't put out that I'm such an insecure person ok.

If you have any comments toward this post, please PM me so everyone does not have to go through last month once again.

Thank you:)

I would love to see pictures of the Graphite colored wood! I loathe the tan maple our E31s came with, and in fact junked mine.

And PS, Extended leather E38 interiors are up there with E31 interiors, and in some ways better. (and yes some ways worse..)

Kinda like this one..


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-BMW-850i-2-2-Coupe_W0QQitemZ280332593639QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_C ars_Trucks?hash=item280332593639&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335818596&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2F1991-BMW-850i-2-2-Coupe_W0QQitemZ280332593639QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_C ars_Trucks%3Fhash%3Ditem280332593639%26amp%3B_trks id%3Dp4506.c0.m245%26amp%3B_trkparms%3D72%253A317% 257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1%257C240%253A1318)


I have a feeling if that car was closer to me (Texas) it would be in my driveway the day after the auction ended. I even wish this was closer to me for a project: http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/1095948694.html

If any one knows of a straight 850, (doesnt need to be running) for a good deal please pass it on to me.
Thanks!

LOL (short for laugh out loud for the PC era)

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I re-read your original reply. Your emoticon in the 'takedown' sentence at the end was misplaced but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was a joke and not whining.

As far as the cable episode in March/April that you are refering to - that is done. I will not tolerate anyone thinking that it's ok to lord it over me as a side attack. It is a totally separate subject matter.

The core difference on wood trim between you and I is simple - you like it in the 8er and I don't and so let's just agree that we disagree. You are not alone and neither am I.

I still think you'll reconsider if you get a 'bare' 8er - all you'll want to do is drive it and you'll have no time to mess with adding non-essential items. ;-)

You have a PM Cantbl8. Glad everything is straightened out:D

Group hug now?

Wow Can8, I may not have an E31 yet, but I'm a very sure that I could more than live with the wood trim inside of this car. When we see cars where someone has a certain something on them that we don't like, we often correct it in our mind to fit what we like....ok. So, does it matter if I do or don't own an 8 series? No because I'm on the road to soon owning one, and I'd consider doing the trim swap when the free money is avalible. Even when I met up with Chuck850 on Friday, I loved the car, but I pictured it with graphite maple wood trim instead of the carbon (which also looks great). Yes, the cost of the wood trim (and installation if your not handy) will almost give you a heart attack, but either way, I see what I see my friend. And yeah, the cockpit of the E31 looks more-so modern than classic, but it sure as hell could pull of the look. Not trying to start anything:), but just wanted to purchase a short recover after your takedown.

Its okay rice, everyone one of us at one point didn't have an 8, but we followed the forums and met a lot of local owners and learned, your still part of the crew....... :comp:

Group hug now?

+1.....lol

Whens the group deal on the euro LKM ethan... how many people do we need to get it done for free..... j/k


:mechstuck

Its okay rice, everyone one of us at one point didn't have an 8, but we followed the forums and met a lot of local owners and learned, your still part of the crew....... :comp:



Thanks for making me feel better. I already felt left out because I couldn't become a member of 8coupe.com or Wuffer.forum.net. You guys I consider are the other extended family, friends who have yet to meet. Until I become big time like you guys and buy my first 8, I will be searching the internet and looking at post about these special cars. I've met one 8er, so hopefully I can meet more when I go to the SE 8 Gathering that Cantbl8 was telling me about.

Thanks for letting me join the team guys :cool

As soon as I recover my investment brother....I am not in the business of making money but I need to pay for what I buy and GT1's ain't that cheap...... I am almost there... You will be the first one to know :-)


Whens the group deal on the euro LKM ethan... how many people do we need to get it done for free..... j/k


:mechstuck

I personally like the wood - but then it is in the CSi. I actually purchased a full set of console wood from an Alpina in Germany and had it shipped here stateside, but eventually sold it when I got the CSi and sold the 850i. I like the wood in the dark color, and would rather have it than the light color - but having said that - wood, as any accessory - is what the owner likes. That is why BMW offered cars in more than one color, with more than one color interior trim. To each his own. And by the way...it does not matter what color they are, what model they are, what wood they are, etc - all 8s are great looking cars!!!!

Got it.... now installing...

http://i41.tinypic.com/a1sr9k.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2qvsgb7.jpg

Cheers.

Looks great! Replace that cassette holder with a cd holder, Fits in the same place.

Looks great! Replace that cassette holder with a cd holder, Fits in the same place.

That's a good mod, and so is the armrest mod from an E46 that would use that cassette space. Wood looks great.

Has anyone tried taking a stock wood kit (or even the CSi kit with the extra pieces) and having it professionally prepped/painted 'piano black'? I think that would give the interior a classy, more contemporary look. Just an idea.

OK, you price a complete CSI wood trim set, pay for and get it home, and I think that will answer your passing thought sir.

Wade, I like the Piano black idea, I don't see why you couldn't do that with your stock black plastic...

After I got the "original" wood kit refinished in dark wood I really like it and want totally redo the White 850 in it also, only go a couple pieces further to compliment. I would like the whole dash wraparound and vent area. Basically any black plastic area changed to wood grain. Lock knobs included. Guess I feel the black is too bland for such a nice car, needs that class splash. Don't like carbon fiber either, it looks better on a wrx or jap muscle car. BTW.. been driving the TT and it is just not fast enough.. I think I have a problem. Pulled next to 08,09 corvette on highway yest. He looked over and we started the hammer down. Both started at 60.. to 100. Dead even. I don't like that.

With the HP to weight advantage the Vette has over you? You beat him.

After I got the "original" wood kit refinished in dark wood I really like it and want totally redo the White 850 in it also, only go a couple pieces further to compliment. I would like the whole dash wraparound and vent area. Basically any black plastic area changed to wood grain. Lock knobs included. Guess I feel the black is too bland for such a nice car, needs that class splash. Don't like carbon fiber either, it looks better on a wrx or jap muscle car. BTW.. been driving the TT and it is just not fast enough.. I think I have a problem. Pulled next to 08,09 corvette on highway yest. He looked over and we started the hammer down. Both started at 60.. to 100. Dead even. I don't like that.Your car is fine....The new Vettes are very fast , and skinnier (3222 vs 4100).. A friend of mine just got a new Black Z06, it rips his Ferraris a new one.. The new Vettes are no joke..

OK, you price a complete CSI wood trim set, pay for and get it home, and I think that will answer your passing thought sir.

We're not exactly a group of ultra-frugal penny-pinchers are we, though? This coming from a group of guys that thinks nothing of slapping a couple of turbos or a supercharger on just so we can hold our own against the latest vette?

Has anyone tried taking a stock wood kit (or even the CSi kit with the extra pieces) and having it professionally prepped/painted 'piano black'? I think that would give the interior a classy, more contemporary look. Just an idea.

Although the wood is expensive (especially the CSI's kit), why not just take the cheaper plastic alternative to paint. You'd be waisting money.

Although the wood is expensive (especially the CSI's kit), why not just take the cheaper plastic alternative to paint. You'd be waisting money.

My reasoning would be the stock black pieces are textured, which defeats the whole purpose of the smooth, glossy piano black look. I guess you'd have to see it in a car to know what I'm talking about... Just think smooth, glossy wood trim, but in a deep BLACK. It may only look good in a light interior for contrast. I have it in my Fusion and it's a great look with light gray leather.

My reasoning would be the stock black pieces are textured, which defeats the whole purpose of the smooth, glossy piano black look. I guess you'd have to see it in a car to know what I'm talking about... Just think smooth, glossy wood trim, but in a deep BLACK. It may only look good in a light interior for contrast. I have it in my Fusion and it's a great look with light gray leather.

Well, I know what your talking about wmealer. I'm sure you could obtain some type of plastic trim or fiber glass to mimic the smooth feeling of your Fusions trim. It wouldn't be too diffrent from the texture. I just cannot cope with hearing the talk of painting OEM CSI wood trim:(

Has anyone tried taking a stock wood kit (or even the CSi kit with the extra pieces) and having it professionally prepped/painted 'piano black'? I think that would give the interior a classy, more contemporary look. Just an idea.I seen that piano black in a Alpina before, I'll post pics if i locate them.

Edit!
It's that Purple Csi that has it, I think his name is Max, Not sure though!

Here's a quick little mock-up before & after...

Awesome!

Don't get me wrong, the piano black looks pretty cool, but it just makes the interior look a little too plain.

Don't get me wrong, the piano black looks pretty cool, but it just makes the interior look a little too plain.

I can respect that... One man's plain is another man's elegant. I for one will put this on my to-do list. Maybe something that happens when the new CSi nose and rear valance get painted black.

I can respect that... One man's plain is another man's elegant. I for one will put this on my to-do list. Maybe something that happens when the new CSi nose and rear valance get painted black.

I have a suggestion for you... Why don't you buy an aftermarket stick-on kit in shiny black? You should be able to get one between $100 and $200. They usually come with the 3M double stick, which comes off very cleanly when you want to rip it back out again.

That way you can try the look out over a few weeks before you decide to take your actual dash parts out to have them painted.

Just a thought.

I'd second that piece of advice-
I bought one of those kits and learned within a week or so that a) I didn't like the color and b) some pieces shouldn't be covered...