OK here it is everybody....I sent the pics and the blueprints for the louvers , I even sent pics of the underside with the tube that goes into the acoustic cover , and it'll be made the same way..He's even going to make the acoustic cover with the hole in it from the spare one I have.( for an additional charge ) He doesn't do Carbon Fibre so these will be fiberglass.. To keep the cost to $1300.00 plus shipping (53% discount to a commercial address by UPS Freight & Old Dominian , body shop , auto repair , McDonalds , any commercial address , or the carriers depot if there's one close to you) and crating ( $49.00 http://www.fiberpartsconcepts.com/1967727.html ) I'll have the hood made from the windshield squirters down since that piece separates and can be reused ( plus it's plastic anyway) This hood will accept all factory mounting hardware , catches , latches , front gasket , etc. etc..This will be a complete hood ready for prep and paint , not just a skin for your existing sub structure.. Doesn't all this sound to good to be true?? Now for the part that didn't sound to good but was expected.. He's charging me $60 per hr for time and materials to make the molds for the hood @ a ballpark figure of 67hrs , I'll save you the time $4000.00 , for the molds. I'm not going forward with this until I know I have confirmed orders for these hoods , I don't want any $$$ up front , no deposits , nothing , I'll get the money for the initial start-up somehow.. I just want an honest commitment from everyone here who wants one..I don't have 4 grand to piss away and then nobody comes thru to buy these... If that happened , I'd have to send Nicky No Neck to pay you a visit :rofl: !!! So let me know what you want to do.. , they'll be made just as good , if not better then the originals.. When production time starts , they'll be made to order on a first come basis..

This will be an Alpina copy?
If not, you have pics?

If you ship world wide I'm interrested, since I live in Norway.

This will be an Alpina copy?
If not, you have pics?

If you ship world wide I'm interrested, since I live in Norway.Yes it'll be a copy..And yes they ship worldwide but only use the 2 carriers I posted and those 2 only..He told me he shipped a hood to Germany not to long ago...........$600 U.S.

Local pickup ok?

-JRW

Local pickup ok?

-JRWYes!!!!! He told me he hates to crate hoods.. Tickled pink when I told him I'd pick up the roof spoilers and send them out myself..

I am local, and VERY interested in a non-Naca hood.

The only things that will make me hesitate are:

1. Concern regarding filament. I don't want panel gap issues, etc.
2. I need to see the type of vents exactly. I am looking for ones that raise off the surface not go down into the body. (As the former creates a low pressure zone which aids air exit, while the other increases drag and causes air to get sucked in!

In short, if the vents are up/out and the filament is good, count me in!

I am local, and VERY interested in a non-Naca hood.

The only things that will make me hesitate are:

1. Concern regarding filament. I don't want panel gap issues, etc.
2. I need to see the type of vents exactly. I am looking for ones that raise off the surface not go down into the body. (As the former creates a low pressure zone which aids air exit, while the other increases drag and causes air to get sucked in!

In short, if the vents are up/out and the filament is good, count me in! Well he's using my spare OEM hood and my car to fit it , and my car's pretty straight. I forgot to ask him if he could eliminate the center DUCT as I know there are people here who didn't like it.. As far as the vents they're going to look like the picture..I don't have the money nor the time to have all kinds of variants of this hood made..But I'm sure he can eliminate the center DUCT..This isn't going to turn into the shirt I was going to have made where everyone wanted me to make it all kinds of ways but my own.. It is what it is..If you want something else go for a ride to Warminster and have it made..I'm not trying to be a prick Omar but I'm also not getting into all kinds of requests for this hood..I'm finally getting it done after close to 2 years and I'm having it made the way it was on the 850..I think the 840 had the upward vents , but not sure of that..
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e110/mt33215/alpina008.jpg

I know your attention to filament.... Since you are using your spare as the mold, then I am in. Just need to know an estimated time -0line.

(No offense taken/prickness intended) :shifty

I know your attention to filament.... Since you are using your spare as the mold, then I am in. Just need to know an estimated time line. I'm going to try and get the hood to him within the next 2 weeks when we test fit the roof spoiler..When I have a better idea on the time line I'll be sure to let everyone know.. But when the molds are done I own them..He's already told me that he had a few hoods that customers had fitment problems , a full refund was given and the mold destroyed and new ones were made..He's pretty much a perfectionist as we all are here..This hood is going on my car as well and it will be perfect , because I'm anal about my car....Ask my wife... The last thing I want is a bad hood after all of this time and $$$$.. No offense intended... We're cool..

I'm going to try and get the hood to him within the next 2 weeks when we test fit the roof spoiler..When I have a better idea on the time line I'll be sure to let everyone know.. But when the molds are done I own them..He's already told me that he had a few hoods that customers had fitment problems , a full refund was given and the mold destroyed and new ones were made..He's pretty much a perfectionist as we all are here..This hood is going on my car as well and it will be perfect , because I'm anal about my car....Ask my wife... The last thing I want is a bad hood after all of this time and $$$$.. No offense intended... We're cool..

Yea, after you posted, I remembered the approach you took with your ACS front bumper...so yea, I trust your filament will be spot on...so I am in. Can also give you a deposit (hell in person if you want) in 2 weeks if it will help.
(only prickiness intended in this post relates to the prickly pear I wish I was eating)

I know you're a perfectionist just like me, so I'm in! I don't think I need the naca duct though since I got a strut bar and also I'm not sure how it would fit the M60/M62. If you want a deposit, let me know. I suppose I'd get it shipped to a paintshop here in L.A.

I know you're a perfectionist just like me, so I'm in! I don't think I need the naca duct though since I got a strut bar and also I'm not sure how it would fit the M60/M62. If you want a deposit, let me know. I suppose I'd get it shipped to a paintshop here in L.A. Im sure he can eliminate the downtube into the acoustic cover so you could still have the DUCT with no clearance issues.. They'll be made one at a time and paid for in full before shipped..No deposit required..I don't want anybodys $$ until their hood is done.. About time huh??

Mark,

Great news, I just wish I could do the 1300.00, but with the way the economy is, the 250.00 for your other project is cool. I do hope you get enough people and then maybe get another group buy later.

Best of luck bro, and thank you for helping the 8er community.

Most excellent indeed!!! Count me for both the hood w/ the duct and rear roof spoiler. BTW- does anyone know the exact placements for the duct and louvers? If someone has a hood for measurements would be ideal.

Mark,

Great news, I just wish I could do the 1300.00, but with the way the economy is, the 250.00 for your other project is cool. I do hope you get enough people and then maybe get another group buy later.

Best of luck bro, and thank you for helping the 8er community.Like I posted a few up..I'll own the molds , I can take them home if I want to but I won't..He'll have them and when the time and economy are better for some , more can be made..If it's any comfort I don't think I'll recover all of my $4000 for the molds..But at least the wait is almost over..This hood is getting made!!!!!!!!!:alright

Most excellent indeed!!! Count me for both the hood w/ the duct and rear roof spoiler. BTW- does anyone know the exact placements for the duct and louvers? If someone has a hood for measurements would be ideal. Yes I have the original drawings with the exact measurements..

I'm going to try and get the hood to him within the next 2 weeks when we test fit the roof spoiler..When I have a better idea on the time line I'll be sure to let everyone know.. But when the molds are done I own them..He's already told me that he had a few hoods that customers had fitment problems , a full refund was given and the mold destroyed and new ones were made..He's pretty much a perfectionist as we all are here..This hood is going on my car as well and it will be perfect , because I'm anal about my car....Ask my wife... The last thing I want is a bad hood after all of this time and $$$$.. No offense intended... We're cool..
I AM in Put me on the list! my car will look awesome!

put me on the list

so I assume we divide the 4k by the # of peeps buying one? Then we pay 1300+ shipping? If not then I would be happy to contribute a few hundred to the 4k setup.
I am good with that. I assume then that guys who buy later will pay more ;)
So yes im in and Im in for the roof spoiler as previously mentioned.

This will then finally make me go get my car re sprayed, and fix all this lil bits.
I hope this goes thru.

so I assume we divide the 4k by the # of peeps buying one? Then we pay 1300+ shipping? If not then I would be happy to contribute a few hundred to the 4k setup.
I am good with that. I assume then that guys who buy later will pay more ;)
So yes im in and Im in for the roof spoiler as previously mentioned.

This will then finally make me go get my car re sprayed, and fix all this lil bits.
I hope this goes thru. I'll pay for the molds to be made.. If enough sell I'll make most of it back in the long run , maybe.. The hoods will be $1300 + shipping & crating.. I'm not playing with the price , that's how people get pissed..And I want everyone to be happy.. If I make my money back for the molds and maybe get a hood out of it I'll be more then happy..I don't want anybodys money till the first one is finished so everyone can see the panel gaps & fitment , but thank you for the offer..:)

I'd suggest to make the slightly different than the Alpinas.

Worried about copyrights here.
I think this is why there are none on the marked, Alpina has the rights for them.
Not sure if this is correct but I think I have heard that Alpina struck down pretty hard on someone who made the earlier.

Might want to change them just a bit. I.e remove the center vent as was mentioned, or ad/remove one or two of the grille patterns.

either way.... I'm still interrested.

No one's running a buisness or stamping them Alpina, They can do nothing!

^^^Yup, it's no different than the ACS knock-off fiberglass body kits, etc...

+1 hard to prove it....

No one's running a buisness or stamping them Alpina, They can do nothing!

^^^Yup, it's no different than the ACS knock-off fiberglass body kits, etc...That's right... They'll be unmarked , unlike the ACS lower front spoiler that's on my car from Raceonusa. It says AC Schnitzer right on the bottom in a little block..And it's ACS's Logo.

where are we at? Do we have enough people?

where are we at? Do we have enough people? I think it's like the Movie " Field of Dreams " If you build it they will come." He picked up my stock hood on Thurs. evening. Should be started begining of next week. I have a few pm's for it and the comments on this thread..I'll know more on Monday as I'm going up in the late morning to fit the roof spoiler to my car for the last time before he makes the molds..After he makes the molds for the spoiler , he can make 3 per day.. I already prepaid for 10 to be made , then I'll have him make them to order..Hoods will be made to order and should be shipped within 2 to 3 wks from order.. Rob told me for an extra $100.00 he'll have your hood shipped within 7 days from order if you'd like..

ok im in for the hood and the roof spoiler. If he ever wants to make front spoilers i'm in the market for an csi one of those....;). Just PM me when I need to give shipping details and send money. I'd like to be able to see 'my hood' evidenced in some fashion, and or speak to the dude to confirm shipping details etc.
Let me know what the trust but verify process is going to be.
I hope that does not come across as jaded, just an old software guy who has been ripped off one time too many.
I'm excited, can't wait.!!!
Hip

ok im in for the hood and the roof spoiler. If he ever wants to make front spoilers i'm in the market for an csi one of those....;). Just PM me when I need to give shipping details and send money. I'd like to be able to see 'my hood' evidenced in some fashion, and or speak to the dude to confirm shipping details etc.
Let me know what the trust but verify process is going to be.
I hope that does not come across as jaded, just an old software guy who has been ripped off one time too many.
I'm excited, can't wait.!!!
HipNo problem.. I think that I'm going to have everyone who wants the hood just contact Rob themselves and order them from him..
http://www.fiberpartsconcepts.com/ He's a straight up guy , otherwise I wouldn't have given him all the $$$ that I have so far.. Give him a call..

Question - how does such a fiberglass hood compare in weight to a stock metal one?

Any pictures of underside where it is attached to the hinges?

Has the usual crash folding been designed in?

Would it be possible to have one made without the pop-up headlight ports?

Would it be possible to see one 'in person'? I'll be in Philly in a few weeks if an appointment is possible.

Please pardon all the questions. I am very curious about this project. If there are any places on the web with answers, please point them out to me.

Cantbl8, please enable PMs in your user settings as I'd like to talk to you offline. As an alternative my PM is enabled for you to give me contact info and my email is: randy@snrinteriors.c*m. Thanks

Question - how does such a fiberglass hood compare in weight to a stock metal one?

Any pictures of underside where it is attached to the hinges?

Has the usual crash folding been designed in?

Would it be possible to have one made without the pop-up headlight ports?

Would it be possible to see one 'in person'? I'll be in Philly in a few weeks if an appointment is possible.

Please pardon all the questions. I am very curious about this project. If there are any places on the web with answers, please point them out to me.
Ok.........Lets get this straight , I'm not getting into a debate with anybody over this hood..Nobody will be stopping by the shop when they're in the area to CHECK IT OUT , if they do they'll be asked to leave nicely ( at first , then you're trespassing ) The only person who'll get any info from the maker , is the person who gave him all the $$$ to make the molds and manufacture the hood , me....If anybody wants different variations , finance your own project... This will be made one way only ( just like the street ) If someone wants crash testing , buy a hood and drive your car into a wall and report back... I've found someone who's enthusiastic to make this , just as much as we are to receive it.. And I don't have the time for stupid questions... Crash testing......Are you kidding me!!!! If you want a better hood buy an Alpina and give the Vin# to them and spend $10k+ for an original..If you're in the area go see the Liberty Bell , because that's a copy also...But if you route this hood the wrong way , your car won't burn up if you crash it..Have a great day!!!!! You're off to a good start here my friend , enjoy your stay as l feel it won't be a long one...

uh, crash-points on a fiberglass hood?!?! :lol3















:confused

mark850, please don't get into a huff. I asked normal questions in a civil manner.

As far as crashing that is not necessary, but you probably want it to fold in a crash rather than take your head off.

Yes, Emerald, on a fibeglass hood.

mark850, please don't get into a huff. I asked normal questions in a civil manner.

As far as crashing that is not necessary, but you probably want it to fold in a crash rather than take your head off.

Yes, Emerald, on a fibeglass hood.If I was getting into a huff you'd know.. I don't want this to get into a cable debate like you got into with Micheal.. When you ask a question it seems like you have an agenda to debunk.. I hope nobody loses their head over this , but ya never know now do ya?? I can eliminate anything on this hood , but it will have to be done with plugs , and then you'll have to work the areas that were plugged . I don't have the $$$ to make all kinds of different outer skins..The guy making the hoods said that the plug mark will be visable after a few years in the elements . and I want something that can be prepped and painted and installed.. The underside will be reinforced at the hinges and all other mounting points for latches and will be exactly like the stock underside as I'm using an OEM stock hood for the molds.. Anything else I can answer for you feel free to ask.. How's that??

mark850, please don't get into a huff. I asked normal questions in a civil manner.

As far as crashing that is not necessary, but you probably want it to fold in a crash rather than take your head off.

Yes, Emerald, on a fibeglass hood.


C'mon guys...we're supposed to be havin fun with our cars :stickoutt


I was jus givin u hard time;)..... nothin serious :eyecrazy

There are no crash points in carbon or fiberglass hoods. Alpina uses a metal skeleton to somewhat keep the hood crashpoint. however, theres no way to control a 'break' in a composite hood without comprimising the structure for everyday use.

When these hoods get in a wreck....they're going to be in a few pieces, none strong enough to break thru the glass.

also, you can always fill in vents u dont want. Fiberglass is VERY easy to work with.

If I get a hood, I'll be filling in that vent in the center of the hood :buttrock

C'mon guys...we're supposed to be havin fun with our cars :stickoutt


I was jus givin u hard time;)..... nothin serious :eyecrazy

There are no crash points in carbon or fiberglass hoods. Alpina uses a metal skeleton to somewhat keep the hood crashpoint. however, theres no way to control a 'break' in a composite hood without comprimising the structure for everyday use.

When these hoods get in a wreck....they're going to be in a few pieces, none strong enough to break thru the glass.

also, you can always fill in vents u dont want. Fiberglass is VERY easy to work with.

If I get a hood, I'll be filling in that vent in the center of the hood :buttrock
I agree totally.

C'mon guys...we're supposed to be havin fun with our cars :stickoutt


Agreed. Not interested in pointless jousting.


I was jus givin u hard time;)..... nothin serious :eyecrazy I was not sure but I am curious about safety. The concern was that if it was very beefed in the underhood frame dept, it might crash hazardously.


also, you can always fill in vents u dont want. Fiberglass is VERY easy to work with.

If I get a hood, I'll be filling in that vent in the center of the hood :buttrockI've worked with fbg before but only for repairs.

Were I to order such a hood (with mark850's kind permission) I'd keep all the vents and and fill in the headlight ports for Dinan inspired pop-up deletes.

Might have to swap stuff every two for state inspection. ;-)

If I was getting into a huff you'd know.. I don't want this to get into a cable debate like you got into with Micheal.. When you ask a question it seems like you have an agenda to debunk.. I hope nobody loses their head over this , but ya never know now do ya?? I can eliminate anything on this hood , but it will have to be done with plugs , and then you'll have to work the areas that were plugged . I don't have the $$$ to make all kinds of different outer skins..The guy making the hoods said that the plug mark will be visable after a few years in the elements . and I want something that can be prepped and painted and installed.. The underside will be reinforced at the hinges and all other mounting points for latches and will be exactly like the stock underside as I'm using an OEM stock hood for the molds.. Anything else I can answer for you feel free to ask.. How's that??

Thanks for reconsidering my questions and thanks for the answers, Mark. No hard feelings.

I will still be in Philly (KoP) in a few weeks' time. Perhaps we could grab a beer or a bite if you have some time to spare? I could meet you anywhere in the PHL area. Always interested in meeting fellow 8er owners.

You don't have to answer now and here. I'll get my PM settings figured out before then.

Cantbl8, please enable PMs in your user settings as I'd like to talk to you offline. As an alternative my PM is enabled for you to give me contact info and my email is: randy@snrinteriors.c*m. Thanks

Sent you email to above addy around noon Sat. Let me know if you got it.

i'll be watching for the pictures and fit of this hood . i to am intrested in it..have to call him to see what the shipping to canada would be..

You can actually figure your own freight exactly. Go to odfl.com/ shipping tools/standard 559 rates/ on the page put the origination zip as 18974, and your destination in Canada. figure 45lbs., class 150, and 53% discount. A test I did for Ontario came up with $167-US to a commercial address..... add $55 if to a residential address. There ya go.

No problem.. I think that I'm going to have everyone who wants the hood just contact Rob themselves and order them from him..
http://www.fiberpartsconcepts.com/ He's a straight up guy , otherwise I wouldn't have given him all the $$$ that I have so far.. Give him a call..


Mark,
Are you sure this is how you want us to handle it? or is this only for the guy's that want the special custom order that is different from your orginal mold?

Mark,
Are you sure this is how you want us to handle it? or is this only for the guy's that want the special custom order that is different from your orginal mold?Yes.. It'll be easier for everyone to just call Rob and order it and make payment to him..He does all of the crating and shipping as I don't have the capabilities to do so.. Now I can ship a roof spoiler..lol..But a hood as wide as ours?? No.. The molds will be done in 8 wks and he should have the first one out.. He's going to send me detailed pics of the making of the molds as he goes along..He has a busy month ahead of him as he's on his way south to start the swap meet season for his hood business.. There will be no custom ordering of this hood..If someone wants it different they can rework the hood to their liking.. But that will cancel out the guarantee these will come with.. I hope this answers your questions...Anymore feel free to ask , and I'll answer them to the best of my knowledge..

Yes.. It'll be easier for everyone to just call Rob and order it and make payment to him..He does all of the crating and shipping as I don't have the capabilities to do so.. Now I can ship a roof spoiler..lol..But a hood as wide as ours?? No.. The molds will be done in 8 wks and he should have the first one out.. He's going to send me detailed pics of the making of the molds as he goes along..He has a busy month ahead of him as he's on his way south to start the swap meet season for his hood business.. There will be no custom ordering of this hood..If someone wants it different they can rework the hood to their liking.. But that will cancel out the guarantee these will come with.. I hope this answers your questions...Any more feel free to ask , and I'll answer them to the best of my knowledge..

Thanks for the quick reply! Many of us appreciate the effort you've done thus far and to you many thanks. :redspot

All the best!

Thanks for the quick reply! Many of us appreciate the effort you've done thus far and to you many thanks. :redspot

All the best!Well..Thank you...I've been on it for awhile , just couldn't find anyone to do the louvers......So I had a hood made.. And he can make as many as he wants to...If anyone wants a shipping quote go here http://www.fiberpartsconcepts.com/1967727.html and put in your info.. I just found out that a non commercial address is $55 more in shipping costs...sorry...I thought he told me commercial address only..

SWEEEEET!!!! Thanks for all the ground work. very much appreciated.

Would Like To Get On The List , I Would Proberly Do A Pick Up , Keep Me Updated.

THANKS.

Would Like To Get On The List , I Would Proberly Do A Pick Up , Keep Me Updated.

THANKS.

Another NJ guy... where are you from?

-JRW

Budd Lake , Out West On i80.

I'm currently in south Jersey across the bridge from Wilmington, DE

any news?

C'mon guys...we're supposed to be havin fun with our cars :stickoutt


I was jus givin u hard time;)..... nothin serious :eyecrazy

There are no crash points in carbon or fiberglass hoods. Alpina uses a metal skeleton to somewhat keep the hood crashpoint. however, theres no way to control a 'break' in a composite hood without comprimising the structure for everyday use.

When these hoods get in a wreck....they're going to be in a few pieces, none strong enough to break thru the glass.

also, you can always fill in vents u dont want. Fiberglass is VERY easy to work with.

If I get a hood, I'll be filling in that vent in the center of the hood :buttrock
Ummmm in the middle of it again i see...lol
Always in the mix huh 850 GIRL
:evil2

any news?

There will be today with Mark's approval........

whoa!

after I get the car up to specs i may be interested! lets see how much $$$ the wife leaves me!

Forget it Mo, yer toast. Wait till I introduce her to Hollie and Chico's (she'll know).........:stickoutt

i've tried introducing her to victoria and frederick... but didn't get anywhere...

Louis would be much better looking alongside Vickie and Fred....... "oh,..... she had a purse?"

yeah that was the look i was going for!

Thinking out loud here (which is usually dangerous)
Wonder if there were a few of us in SoCal that were considering purchase and could lump our shipments together to make it easier/cheaper. Would seem that the unit price would be less if one were shipping 5 hoods simultaneously -