So I'm on my way to work today heading down a 6 lane road (3 lanes in ea dir) and i stop for a red light when along comes a perty blue wrx wagon. I give him a look just admiring the car, when the light goes we both kind of get off the line quick, at about 5-8 mph we realize its on and take off, i have to pull a F & F move and swerve around a car that was doing 12mph or something but i manage to keep up with him! We get up to roughly 80mph and we are neck and neck, if anything i have a bumper lead on him. Is this possible? He didn't have the advantage of the AWD launch because like i said we didn't realize it was on till it was on. But i dont think he was modded at all, no crazy exhaust/intake noise. What do you guys think? I was totally stoked! YAY FOR ME!

I beat one on a freeway about two months ago going up to 130mph.

They don't seem to do too well at high speeds.

They are about as aerodynamic as a refrigerator.

:dunno

lol theodore!

Well im happy then. I just thought they'd be a bit faster!

I beat one on the freeway about 2 months ago. Driver error though ;)

I remember that slickav...

refrigerator on wheels....lol

I have had some light to light races with a 325. Very cool kid. He had a passenger. He was pretty impressed and we chatted for a little bit. The car had some exhaust work done...It wasn't pretty, but we had some fun...

JH

if you look at the last line in my sig, you will see why i believe one of 3 things, 1. it was a slow auto, or 2. they weren't trying, they blew it from the get go, or the launch.
but hey anything can happen. my brother used to whip me like crazy with just an intake, and on a bad stock turbo from a stop. if we were already moving it was a bit different

we didn't launch man

my best freind has a wrx wagon... i have a 325. he used to talk smack all the time untill we raced at our local draging street, straight up. i had perfect lauches at 3500 on my snow tires. i raced him a bunch of times. i won all of the times except for one time, a couple weeks later, when my subfrabe failed and my diff and driveshaft were rubbing on the bottom of my car. he never launched above about 4,000 so maybe he could have beat me if he launched at 6,000. I don't know, i think i'm just really good at racing on the street. i do also think that my car is particularly fast for what it is. Even for an average stock 325 i think its a close match for a wrx wagon. with a decent driver i think the wago could head out on it though.

A stock 325/328/330 whatever will not beat a WRX nor will it be close unless driver ability is totaly missmatched.

I know numbers really don't tell totaly the truth but just looking at them a WRX in the 1/4 is closely matched for the E36 M3 stock for stock ... After that my vote goes for the M but never a stock 325 or anything less than a E36 M will be comparable to a stock WRX on off the track...drag or street course.

You had a good run... and the guy probably had an auto trany or he just didn't feel like shifting right...

BMW sob
What is done on your 325? It can't be stock at all...Unless your friend really is terrible at driving stick

krogerBMW, that's what I was going to say.

On my previous post I mentioned that my (WRX) run with a 325 wasn't pretty. I was trying to be very nice and not mention that with some really good launches I would put a lot of space between me and the 325 (up to 60 mph, just a 1-2). I have to say that the driver seemed very young and he wasn't making use off all of his BMW horses.

Honestly I think that your friend had some problems...a wagon is not that much slower than a sedan...

I have to agree than when both cars are moving things are different and those BMW horses definately work harder...

BTW, I hope you guys don't mind me hanging around in this forum...I know I don't have a BMW but the stories here a pretty cool....

peace

JH

Originally posted by krogerBMW
A stock 325/328/330 whatever will not beat a WRX nor will it be close unless driver ability is totaly missmatched.

I know numbers really don't tell totaly the truth but just looking at them a WRX in the 1/4 is closely matched for the E36 M3 stock for stock ... After that my vote goes for the M but never a stock 325 or anything less than a E36 M will be comparable to a stock WRX on off the track...drag or street course.

You had a good run... and the guy probably had an auto trany or he just didn't feel like shifting right...

BMW sob
What is done on your 325? It can't be stock at all...Unless your friend really is terrible at driving stick

A friend of mine is a pretty good driver... Intake, exhaust and BOV and I whoop him.

Originally posted by krogerBMW
A stock 325/328/330 whatever will not beat a WRX nor will it be close unless driver ability is totaly missmatched.

After that my vote goes for the M but never a stock 325 or anything less than a E36 M will be comparable to a stock WRX on off the track...drag or street course.

BMW sob
What is done on your 325? It can't be stock at all...Unless your friend really is terrible at driving stick

Enough said. :confused:

Wagon is 300lbs heavier than a regular sedan type (first downside for him). If you would have even got a regular WRX with an intake or just exhaust it could have been REALLY nasty. ALso the WRX is HORRIBLE at high speed (which is the same for any 4 cylinder car).

I'm pretty sure your wrong about the wagon being 300 lbs heavier than the sedan...IIRC, the wagon is no more than 100 lb over the sedan...

In any case....My friend at work as a WRX wagon....with an *auto*...and my '95 M3 walks on him with ease......I believe the auto WRXs are low 15 second cars....so I have no problem believing that a 325 could beat one.....

Your right I may have been thinking about something else I just looked it up its about 130lbs more (the glass) yet still my friends WRX with alot of mods and 15lbs of boost can stay 2 cars behind my FD so I consider that pretty good.

Twin, what do you estimate your 1/4 mile time to be?

12.4 or 12.6 on good tires. Yet my tires are worn as hell some Im probably doing 13+. (Im chipring 3rd gear!!).

Alright message board racers, real life racing isnt the same as message board racing. In real life, there are other factors involved, like the driver, what speeds/rpms/gears the cars are going when the race starts, mods, etc.

Before my buddy got rid of his modded Civic SI, we used to race all the time. I have a mostly stock 325 AUTOMATIC. This guy was pushing 180hp or so crank in his 2500lb civic, and was a good driver. From a light, he'd smoke me by 2 cars at least.. but on the highway, it was always side by side, with me pulling away after 100-110mph or so.

One night we were cruising in the HOV lane.. and this paticular HOV broke off from the interstate and was its own little interstate so to speak. A stock wrx and some shitmobile mazda wagon came up on us and it was a 4 way race. I dusted the wagon quick and my friend and the wrx were right up ahead of us. The wrx SLOWLY pulled away from my friend, i mean inching.. at this point we were over 100mph, and i was pacing the wrx, he wasnt gaining an inch(granted i was behind him and my friend was beside him, i saw my friend slowly falling back as i paced the WRX from behind).

I'm sorry that its so hard for some of you people to believe, but street racing isnt as cut and dry as 1/4 mile times out of a damn magazine. At different speeds and gears and such, cars with slower 1/4 mile times can be faster than cars that would beat them from 0-60, or in the 1/4. I have no reason to lie, im sorry but i think making up stories on the internet is really lame and a waste of time. It just gets on my nerves to see people say "well autoweek says this car runs a 14.2 and your car runs a 15.2 so you lost even though i wasnt there".

Its pretty common knowledge that WRX's arent THAT fast at higher speed roll-ons, when compared to 1/4 mile drag runs. You can't base the outcome of all races on 1/4 times...

kroger, thats like me saying "an 03 cobra will beat you no matter what" after you posting a kill story about you beating an 03 cobra.

Wouldnt it piss you off if someone had the nerve to tell you that you didn't do what you KNOW you did, just because the said car runs a faster 1/4 time in some magazine? Oh well, people will always act like they're god regardless of what you tell them.

Do wrx's even come in automatic?

WRX's auto Im not too sure. Yet they are not no civic. Those things can move and one has yet to pass me but has gotten to close for comfort (my rear quater panel). I cant wait till I fair against the STI's now :). I still love WRX for handeling AWD has its perks too.

The one that got close was my friends HIGHLY modded one.
(Just to get that str8)

Originally posted by runetang[1337]


Do wrx's even come in automatic?

They most certainly do.

As I have always said, too many factors in street races, especially from a roll. Gearing being a huge one, being in the right gear when flooring it another, which can speak to driver ability or in some cases common sense.

I agree with the sentiment of runetang's comments...

it could have been automatic i have no idea, all i know is that we were neck and neck maybe i had a bumper on him and i'd like to think that from a roll i would have a bigger advantage on any fucking car (ok maybe not any lol) with a slushbox! But i guess the world will never no... :devillook:

cleont please watch the language in the Main Forums... :cop:

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Why?

You remember that movie "Meet the parents" and the guy says he can't say bomb on an airplane and then all Gaylord Focker says is bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb be bomb bomb bomb, that's what i feel like doing now....

Why opress free speech on an internet site...

Cuz we try to keep the Main Forums PG/PG-13, we have advertisers, and in general for those members who surf at work we try to keep profanity of any kind to a minimum outside of Off Topic, so they don't get into trouble with bosses, network Admins, and any "catch phrases", etc....

And free speech aside, this is a privately owned site, so we follow the rules here when we choose to join.

I asked nicely, even said "please", mostly for future reference so you watch your language in the Main Forums in case you weren't aware that we try to keep it clean(er) outside of OT, when I very well could have just edited your post myself.

I trust I have made myself clear?

good point.

well i asked my brother what the difference a wagon makes from the sedan wrx, but i won't bring it up. all in all, the guy attempted to race you and you won, so congrasts on the kill

wahhhh, a wrx runs a faster quarter mile than your car cleoent so theres no way you couldve won! he mustve been playing with you.


cleoent, you know what happened and thats all that matters right bud? :D

runetang,
Yes I agree on your point that magazines just give a false representation of the car...and just test up to 1/4 mile...I was also refering to the person above me stating that a stock 325 will constantly in and out win against a wrx... I am not here to start some big flame war just stating my point and asking questions. I have driven multiple bmw's and yes know how they pull on highways... its not only bmw's but all german cars it seems have that higher end pull. As sliverstreak said its really a matter of the gearing etc in the car...and most important the driver!

If you would know me I am one a big advocate against street racing and also drag... just can't stand it...just not my style of racing. Highway runs are fun but get old after a while...But always enjoy reading kill stories and chiming in with the occasional comment. There is no doubt in my mind that races can be won or lost by anybody...driving 2 totaly unmatched cars. I was just trying to back up the wrx it seemed that it wasn't getting the credit it deserved in my opinion. For 24 grand you really can't beat it for all around use.

EDIT: and yes they do come in automatics