So I'm at a light with my top down in the vert, playing my relaxin jazz music, takin it easy when in my rear I see a Neon with a hole in the hood and lots of noise coming at me. He pulls up to the right next to me. I pay no attention to him, I'm checkin out the babe accross the street(at the McDonalds parking lot). Then I hear a rev from his car. It came pre fart piped from the factory, and the noise was annoying! (Edit: Now that I think about, he put the fart pipes on. Stock SRT-4's sound real nice.) I shift into neutral and rev up too. My exhaust isn't really stock, so it makes a deep noise, it's not loud but it sounds nice.

I notice he's talkin on a cell phone though, and I'm hoping he puts it down before the light goes green. I decide since I'm facing a WAY quicker car, neutral dropping would be good. So the other light turns yellow... then red...

GREEN! I launch from 3,800 RPMS dropping the gear into 3rd. I was expecting to see his Black SRT-4 flying past my now, but I look back and see his car barely past the line with smoke coming from his tires. I kept the pedal down though. My second gear kicks in, and damn did it kick REALLY hard. It almost through me out of control(It's happened before...). So that pinned me back for a second. I keep going. He's beginning to gain REALLY fast. I see the car coming closer and closer. At this point I'm hitting about 60 and I force it into third to pick up some more speed. I keep going and going.

The noise from the vert is pretty fucking loud with the top down, and as I'm getting to 90 the stability is going to the shitter. I hit 100 and now he's next to me and pulling really damn hard. A freaky ass thing happened a gust of wind blew and I felt me car bend or something! It felt like the car shifted or twisted in it's lane. I almost lost control. The next light was coming up so we both begin to slow down, I get into the left turn lane as A) That's where I was planning to go and B) I don't want a rematch).

I yelled at him from my lane "What happened back there!" He responds, "I put the parking brake up at the light!" I shout back "Don't talk on a cell phone when you drive! See what happens!" Then my light turned green and off I went.

The driver screwed up so that's a kinda of tie/kill for me! Who says these SRT-4's are tough! :12:

You have more skill since you didint put you E-Brake up :biglaughb ;) Your win :D

Sounds like your car has some serious stability problems. Nice kill, that guy was just trying to show off.

What's your car?

Brake torquing is a LOT nicer on the tranny the a neutral drop. Neutral drop is reserved for rental cars. Seriously though nice kill but if you like your tranny I'd shy away from that kinda abuse

Originally posted by Ferris
Neutral drop is reserved for rental cars.
:biglaughb

Tranny drop in a drag race ?:confused:

do you havea E30 m3, Greekdriver?

Originally posted by GreekDriver
A freaky ass thing happened a gust of wind blew and I felt me car bend or something! It felt like the car shifted or twisted in it's lane. I almost lost control.

Did you think twice about typing that?

If you're going to street race, you should at least do everyone the favor of staying within your limits.

Have you ever been to a high performance driving school?

Chris

he musta blew at driving, ive seen stock srt-4's in the high 13's with a good driver. i dont know any e30's with m20's or m42's in them even when modded pulling those kinda times.

Originally posted by vodomagoo
he musta blew at driving, ive seen stock srt-4's in the high 13's with a good driver. i dont know any e30's with m20's or m42's in them even when modded pulling those kinda times.

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EclipsorGreen - the car is finally resurrected?

Originally posted by EclipsorGreen
Did you think twice about typing that?

If you're going to street race, you should at least do everyone the favor of staying within your limits.

Have you ever been to a high performance driving school?

Chris

It was my first time pushing the car that hard with the top down. Having the top down sends stability to hell. I haven't been to a driving school. It's a convertible, I won't be taking it that fast again.

To the rest, he left the parking brake up! Ofcourse I'd win! It was a TOTAL fluke!

I drive an 88 325i Convertible.

The tranny is in descent condition, but it's going to be swapped. It's in the works.

Would an aero kit help my stability with the top down at all?

Suspension work would....

Originally posted by vodomagoo
he musta blew at driving, ive seen stock srt-4's in the high 13's with a good driver. i dont know any e30's with m20's or m42's in them even when modded pulling those kinda times.

325i with M20 Engine that runs a 12.3 quarter! (http://www.bavariacars.com.au/vehicles.phtml?articleid=2fa9773aa5)

OK ok you showed us.

ok thats a completly rebuilt re worked engine not in orginal format anymore to me thats more then just modded thats a fully built up tubo stroker engine not realy fair to compare the two. also the money that must have cost i could prob be putting down 500+hp but i dont have a m20

Is this turning into a bash the E30 M20 thread? :(

The M20 is a good engine, although you really can't do much with it or with an E30 for the matter, I like it. Other than the timing belt it really doesn't have any other severe qwirks.

The supspension on it is stock right now. I've been looking at the Stage 4 Suspension Kit from Dinan. It's priced high, but if I'm gonna buy somothing I'm gonna buy the best I can. I don't want a half assed car, know what I'm saying?

Originally posted by GreekDriver
Would an aero kit help my stability with the top down at all?

It depends on a lot of factors. I'm assuming that the car was getting a bit light in the rear. Obviously I was not there, and can't tell how your car felt through a forum, but I'm assuming downforce has a lot to do with the instability of your car at high speeds. I'd recommend finding a functional rear spoiler, along with a set of performance shocks and lowering springs. A lower stance will help high speed downforce a good deal, as a result of less air traveling beneath the car. Stiffer springs and performance shocks will help reduce body roll in transitions, which is also very key to staying in control at high speeds. Lastly, make sure your alignment is correct. Toe-out on both the front and the rear tires can have a large effect on high speed, straight line stability.

Chris

Originally posted by EclipsorGreen
It depends on a lot of factors. I'm assuming that the car was getting a bit light in the rear. Obviously I was not there, and can't tell how your car felt through a forum, but I'm assuming downforce has a lot to do with the instability of your car at high speeds. I'd recommend finding a functional rear spoiler, along with a set of performance shocks and lowering springs. A lower stance will help high speed downforce a good deal, as a result of less air traveling beneath the car. Stiffer springs and performance shocks will help reduce body roll in transitions, which is also very key to staying in control at high speeds. Lastly, make sure your alignment is correct. Toe-out on both the front and the rear tires can have a large effect on high speed, straight line stability.

Chris

My alignment IS a bit off, I know that for a fact! Thanks alot! I'll get that checked out!

Originally posted by WannaM
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EclipsorGreen - the car is finally resurrected?

It was, for a very short period of time and felt excellent.

The newly built motor was having some problems in cylinder one. :complain It's been sent back out to be checked out. I guess it's better to be safe than sorry, but it's killing me that the car is still not running properly. At least I have a daily driver now, so it's much less of a hassle. Believe me, I'll be on this board with some kills as soon as she's up and running permanently.

Chris

Originally posted by EclipsorGreen
Believe me, I'll be on this board with some kills as soon as she's up and running permanently.

Chris

Oh, yeah, I know that. Thank God you don't live in MA:D

Since I know that you have a faster car, all I can say at this time is....... next time you race a BMW, keep the pistons in the block ;)

Greg

Originally posted by WannaM

Since I know that you have a faster car, all I can say at this time is....... next time you race a BMW, keep the pistons in the block ;)

Ha, I'll have to keep that in mind no matter who I race. :evil2

Chris

Nice kill. :buttrock

yeah, KUDOS for E30 M3

SRT-4 is an ugly ass car, and it's FUCKING overrated. I will OWN all SRT-4 because of its ugliness... :stickoutt

Originally posted by novulari
SRT-4 is an ugly ass car, and it's FUCKING overrated.

Actually, the SRT-4 is underrated. That's a fact. Many of them are laying down more horsies to the pavement than Dodge claimed at the flywheel.

Chris

True.

lol yeah e30 bashing right. oh and lots and lots can be done to make an e30 fast just a 12v engine limits it alot. you have looked at my sig right? also he doesnt have a e30 m3 is a 325, if it was a m it wouldent be a vert since none were sold in this country. also the srt-4 is fast as hell ive seen them lay down high 13's stock mid to low with about 200 dollars worth of mods on them

Originally posted by novulari
yeah, KUDOS for E30 M3

SRT-4 is an ugly ass car, and it's FUCKING overrated. I will OWN all SRT-4 because of its ugliness... :stickoutt

Please watch your language outside of Off Topic. :cop:

Any1 think that a 2002 325i would whip an srt-4? stock-stock that is. My bro just got an srt-4, and im gettin the 2002 325i soon, and he thinks he can whip my ass, and i think i could whip his ass. Also, do you think i should get it turbo, or just get cold air intake and exhaust?

Nice kill! Cell phone death.

Actually, the SRT-4 is underrated. That's a fact. Many of them are laying down more horsies to the pavement than Dodge claimed at the flywheel.

Chris

I think he meant over-rated by the way people go ape poop over them. 13.8-14.2 second quarter is certainly respectable, but it isn't all that.

Out of curiosity: What is an auto E30 vert 2.5 good for in the quarter 16-17?

O-L-D :az:

Any1 think that a 2002 325i would whip an srt-4? stock-stock that is. My bro just got an srt-4, and im gettin the 2002 325i soon, and he thinks he can whip my ass, and i think i could whip his ass. Also, do you think i should get it turbo, or just get cold air intake and exhaust?

He would detroy a 2002 325i. A turbo would be in favor much more than simply intake and exhaust mods. What you would need to do is call him when he's about to run you and make him get that parking brake up. ;)


Out of curiosity: What is an auto E30 vert 2.5 good for in the quarter 16-17?

Probably 16 with the top up. They're slow, but I love them.

Hah, a 17. second cabriolet got the jump on a SRT :D
(Saved by the parking brake :buttrock )

10 mos old post alert...

A 325 will lose badly to an SRT-4, but if it's not all about what's faster, get the car YOU want and enjoy it.

It was my first time pushing the car that hard with the top down. Having the top down sends stability to hell. I haven't been to a driving school. It's a convertible, I won't be taking it that fast again.

Would an aero kit help my stability with the top down at all?

I've had my Z3 to 125 INDICATED with the top down and it was as smooth as 60mph. Granted I was in a vortex from hell and couldn't hear a damn thing... But she was quite stable!

Try the Z3 top down at 145 mph... It was an experience I can tell you....

SRT-4 is an ugly ass car, and it's FUCKING overrated. I will OWN all SRT-4 because of its ugliness...


its not a bad looking car, and its not like its a slow rice burner, it actually makes some hp and torque, and straight pipes and turbo from the factory is the bomb, to bad to many of these cars fall in the hands of rice boys who don't know anything :( who in there right mind would put fart cans on a car with straight pipes! :mad:

Try the Z3 top down at 145 mph... It was an experience I can tell you....

LOL, I think I'll pass.....

Try the Z3 top down at 145 mph... It was an experience I can tell you....

Bring diapers! I took mine to 140ish topless, it was at night and it was rather disorienting. :eyecrazy: Day time high speed topless doesn't seem so bad. I did 125 with the top down with a female passenger, she didn't complain. Of course, she didn't even notice when I did 120 with the top up because she was just looking at the bay. Before you pervs comment "Sick, dude! She's my sister!"

125 has to be pretty close to top end topless for the 2.5 Z3. If I can get a trafficless day, I'll find the topless top end for the ///M. I'll have to get a run before I get to the causeway I usually do highspeed runs on. There isn't room to get over 140 without the top before I have to slow down.

Since this is so old...it seems appropriate to jack.

I kind of don't hate the look of the SRT-4 in the right colors. :dunno

Any1 think that a 2002 325i would whip an srt-4? stock-stock that is. My bro just got an srt-4, and im gettin the 2002 325i soon, and he thinks he can whip my ass, and i think i could whip his ass. Also, do you think i should get it turbo, or just get cold air intake and exhaust?

as long as you buy dinan chip,intake and exhaust you should be ok. the brocure says you will be making like 230hp![/sarcasm]

damn, this is the second time I have been bamboozled into reading an old post!!!

grrr... :D

greekdriver you continue to be ignorant.

Nobody with an ounce of common sense does neutral drops. Your E30 vert is unstoppable you beat an SRT-4 with an idiot driving. :rolleyes:

Cool kill.. I put my E-brake up at long lights too.. that clutch is heavy after a few hours of driving. As for the SRT-4 being an "Ugly F-ing car" So what? It's a $20K car.. it's not going to be able to look as good as say.. uh, a Porsche.

greekdriver you continue to be ignorant.

Nobody with an ounce of common sense does neutral drops. Your E30 vert is unstoppable you beat an SRT-4 with an idiot driving. :rolleyes:

I think I'm going to treat neutral like a clutch from now on... If my tranny goes, I'll get a new one. I don't care.

you know..i drive a 1990 325iC automatic.

i just spent 2500 to get a new tranny cause i did dumb stuff like holding the brake down and flooring it trying to burn out. driving in 1 2 3 and D

clicking my transmission into neutral while rolling to rev at ricers....
yes, everything i just listed is stuff u DONT wanna do. i dont even wanna imagine wut doing a neutral drop would do...i havent tried cause no offense, but i'm not that stupid.
anyone who truely cares about their E30, will take my advice.

especially clicking into neutral while rolling, this was probably the most damaging. alot of u may not realize that in the auto transmission their is a tranny pump, and when clicked into neutral..that pump IS turned OFF.