Hey i'm new to the board and have been reading everyones kill stories. I can't wait to get out there and drive my m3. I'm only 15 now and can't drive till jan. 2005. My mom has a '00 525 and my sister has a manual '93 325. And my dad doesn't have a bimmer. Well, me and my sister were out on the highway driving around and we get a light with a newer saturn(haha) next to us. So i'm like "smoke them", kidding around thinking that my sister knew how to drive and thinking saturns can't go over 20mph. Light turns green and the saturn is gone. What a wimp my sister is after reving the engine and not even pushing like 40mph haha. Next light....saturn is in front of us and their friends in a civic are next to them. My sister, again, revs the engine loudly and they look back...green light...2 cars gun it and are off in the distance. My sister does not even give chase and within a few seconds I could not even tell what kind of cars they were because they were so far away. Next light we have another civic next to us and my sister guns it off the light...seconds later I hear a whizzing noise and see the civic fly past us and go into the distance. So embarassing. I can only imagine what these people were saying. When she reved the engine I thought she meant business and would actually teach these people a lesson, but no she has to be a whimp about it. Well glad you guys know how to use the power and hope you don't have to go through this. By the way all the people we "raced" were teenage girls.

uh..... nice loss....

she just revs the engine loudly?... that so lame...

if she is young and inexperienced driver.. racingcan be dangerous... but the revving louldy is really lame... :rolleyes:

She is 21 and a good driver but just doesn't realize that you don't rev then not do anything. She wasn't reving obnoxiously or anything but enough for the girls to look back and laugh. I hope next time she realizes to really go for it when she provokes the other people or not do it at all. Later on that night we get a light with a new carera haha. She revs as a joke and the guy laughs then when its green he goes for it....damn those are nice cars and so fast. By the way do you think a new m3 could beat a vette and also under the right conditions and with a good driver what cars can an m3 compete with? Just wondering

Thats really leaving people hanging. Except , your the one that looks like an ass. By the way, the "New" M3 is called a E46 M3 ;)

Not many girls know how to drive well. Those who do are quite special. :love1

please dont tell me a 15 year old owns an E46 M3

Nope don't have the e46 yet. For my first car I will be getting the e36 because the e46 is a little to pricey right now. If I hold onto the first m3 for a while I would probably be interested in buying a super/turbocharger. I saw this online for about 8-9 thousand bucks, is that right? For my moms next car we will be getting the new 530 i think and then about a year later I will have my M hopefully which will bring the bimmer count to 3 in the driveway. After "racing" in my sisters 93 325i I am determined to get the M3. What upgrades do you guys think I should get at first? Thanks for all your help.

spoiled kids....

Get the euro 321hp engine with the AA turbo, that would be a good start. May as well swap the tranny out for a six-speed while your at it, this will give you better mileage on those trips to college.

In response to the "spoiled kids" message, I'm not just one of those kids who gets a bimmer for their birthday for free. My family has had BMW's since I was born but I am not going to get one as a gift. I have been saving my money my entire life and have been obsessed with BMW's for as long as I can remember. It will be a great reward buying my M3 because it will be 100% mine and I will not be helped by my parents in buying it. I have been working hard and putting every last penny in the bank, so I'm not just a "spoiled kid", rather a BMW enthusiast who works hard to get one for myself. Can't wait to get out there on the road with my car.

Nothing wrong with dreaming, but wait until REALITY hits you in the face. Life isn't cheap, and if you want to play, you have to pay! 15 yrs old, just about to get his first license, already talking about racing an M3.... thank GOD I don't live anywhere near Rumson, NJ once he's turned loose on the streets. That kind of car in a novice's hands is like handing a baby a loaded gun! Rediculous. Who's going to foot that car insurance bill? And the upkeep/maintenance, etc.? Gonna be real hard working a part-time, minimum wage job and expect to have that kind of possesion. I don't think you'd pull in enough money to even cover the insurance alone!

I'm not just a typical 15 yr old who thinks that nothing costs any money and who will be out on the road going 100 on any given road. I have given it a lot of thought and I understand the costs that will be associated with buying it and also the upkeep of it due to it being a sportscar and I also know that insurance for a 17 year old with a BMW will be quite expensive, especially in NJ. I have already saved a significant amount of money towards the purchase. And as far as the power goes, I am not going to be obnoxiously racing around the streets like so many others do, and I have seen what that can result in. I respect the power of these cars and will learn to drive it well and handle it's power before doing any sort of racing at all. I would not be the type who goes out all the time seriously racing, I would just like to cruise around and have some fun with it. I know I will be able to raise enough money for an E36(most likeyl a 95) because I have saved the majority of the realistic cost already. Well, I hope I wil be able to get some tips from everyone rather than doubts about me being able to buy it, drive it, etc. Thanks for the replies.

ummm. 15yrs old and you have saved 20 grand? :bs:



welcome to bimmerforums but the only place you will be looking at E36s is here if YOU are buying your car.

im pretty sure you have no idea what insurance will be for 17yr old with a BMW sports car in NJ the most expensive insurance in the nation.

Originally posted by psychocandy
Get the euro 321hp engine with the AA turbo, that would be a good start. May as well swap the tranny out for a six-speed while your at it, this will give you better mileage on those trips to college.

That is IF it's still in one piece by then.

ur family is dumb.

ur sister throws revs at gay cars...

ur pulling crap out of ur ass with every post....

ur mom is getting or has a 530 when she should have a 540...

and ur dad doesnt even own a bimmer...

i don't know...some 16-17 year old kid i know from church has saved 20-25k. his dad helped him invest his money in stocks and such from an early age, but yeah theres no way anyone can make that kind of money just from your basic teenage part time job.

My insurance for my 8 year old 4 cylindar 318i is more than my 2 year old SUV.....I don't even want to know what the insurance for an m3 would cost...

Now theres a good idea... Save 20 grand and blow it all on a car.. :rolleyes:

Your parents need to teach you more fiscal responsibility.

geez people....give the kid a break.........he wants a bimmer...let it be....who cares if he has the money or not...i dont know you people get all anal when a "kid" gets a m3.....so you guys/girls are trying to tell me that you wouldnt have your parents buy you a M?....people these days just hate because they feel like they got the short end of life.....i myself would love to have my parents buy me a M but im like most here....im getting it myself...from a 318 to a 325 and now to a m3

-Anh

He's probably not a spoiled kid and he most likely isn't going to pay 100% for his car. Hell, I'd be impressed if he paid off 50%. Let the kid be. If he wants to do the fast and furious thing, let him learn the hard way discerning reality from movies. Props to you kid, when I was 15, i was on supra forums. I miss my old mk III supra.

i have no problem with him gettin an E36 M3 if he thinks he can handle it.

thing is theres too good of a possibility that he cant. its alot of car for a brand spanking new driver to have. too much for anyone IMO. i am a true believer that noone knows what to do with their first car. for the first year i would suggest getting something a little less nice and fast and try to take care of that as best as possible and then when more ready go for the ///M.

the real problem i think people are having is that he is trying to say that he is paying for it all himself with money he has saved which is not possible at 15 yrs old. cept for that kid that invested but then again he didnt do that by himself.

yes, give the kis a break....

I wanted a BMW since I was in my early teens as well. 20K is very believable.... which was how much I had when I was 15. Then it grew several folds.....but I couldn't bear to spend my hard earned money on a car as I had bigger plans when I was 20. Good thing my parents taught me how to save hard.

Even now at 29, insuring a M car is really high....so I didn't get a M :( Why bust his balls? everything starts with a dream.....

BimmerMpower

I respect your decision, look Im 20 years
old, and man I wanted a bimmer since I can remember, I know that the dream of
every teenager is have a real fast car without even considering the consequences, I was like you in the same position in getting an M3, but the fact that they are expensier and the insurence is really high, I would recommend you get a 328 is, that's what I did, trust me they are fast and plus you wont be wasting that much money on insurence.

who says 16 y.o. cannot buy bmws, if u can afford it, buy it. would recommend u goto some car control clinics and "learn to drive", your driver's ed. class doesn't cut it, good luck.

It's not about if he can afford to buy it in the first place... it's more about the TYPE of car in the hands of a 15 YEAR OLD! Every kid will lie through their teeth and tell you (or mom/dad): "I promise I'm not gonna drive fast, I just like the look of it and it's my dream car." The minute they get behind the wheel (especially a 15/16 yr. old who is getting his friggin license for the FIRST TIME!) of an M3 and feel how much power is there, they will be racing everything on the street that tempts them. I don't know about you, but I'm glad I live NOWHERE near to where this kid will be driving! Hell, I'm 30 years old and I still race people here and there! I've been driving for as long as this kid has been alive and I'm still amazed at things I see people do while driving. Imagine a 15 yr old in an M3! If his parents have a brain in their head and know anything about Bimmers (apparently they own a couple), then they should realize what potential danger they are letting their son get into. He should sock away/invest some of that money and get something cheaper or toned-down a bit and drive that until his driving skills improve, etc. But, like any young teen, they aren't going to listen to reason and will cry about it until mommy and daddy succumb to it and just give in. Think about it....

I agree with BMW325iman...i just got my license about a week ago and i started out with a 92 325i which cost $6,200 and had some problems right when i got it and i have to pay for whatever i want to do to it...IMO thats how it should be but obviously some people are gonna disagree most of which get things handed to them but thats just how i feel so dont start bashing me for having an opinion

Originally posted by AlaskaBimmer
My insurance for my 8 year old 4 cylindar 318i is more than my 2 year old SUV.....I don't even want to know what the insurance for an m3 would cost...

yea, seriously. good luck getting cheap insurance on an m3. thats whats held me back from getting one.

To those of you who have given me some support and tips, thank you. But I don't understand everyone who is getting so offended and bashing me. I don't know why you think I would be coming on here and lying about all this stuff. I really wasn't trying to cause a big fuss or anything, just trying to get some helpful info. from people who know a lot about BMW's. And for the person who made comments about my family being so dumb and my mom should be getting a 540. I think the 530 is still a pretty good car and the 540 is a little to pricey and we wouln't need a car like that for my mom anyway. And as far as my dad not owning a BMW, he is a contractor and has a dodge van so that is why he does not have one. I never said I had save 20 grand already, I said a majority of the cost. It is very possible to save that amount of money because I have saved pretty much everything I have earned and received and have invested my money and haven't been spending it all on weed and coke, etc. like everyone else. As far as me being an irresponsible teen who will be racing all over the place, take a look at the parking lot at my school and I will be the least of your worries. There are all sorts of BMW's, tons of mercedes, some porsches, all types of fast audis, a rolls, etc., etc. Thanks to those of you who are allowing me to have this dream and I hope I will be able to get some helpful info. from everyone that will help with buying the car.

I can't believe all the haters here who have to shizz all over some kid who wants an M3. Just because someone is 15 doesn't guarantee he'll drive wrecklessly any more than being 45 doesn't mean he'll drive safely ... isn't that pretty much a "duh"?

C'mon people, sheesh ... :rolleyes:

I'm not trying to piss on his dream, I'm just pointing out the very real fact that teens (especially first-time drivers) and fast cars DON'T mix. It doesn't take MUCH for one of those immature kids in his school that own BMWs, Mercs, P-cars, etc. to challenge him one day. My concern here is for HIS safety, as well as others sharing the road with him. I could care less if his parents buy it, or if he buys it himself. Hell, the very first car I bought myself was a 1978 Alfa Romeo GT. BUT, the car I learned to drive with for years before I bought the Alfa was a Mazda stationwagon! Baby steps man, baby steps. That's all I'm saying.... Now you see my point?

Originally posted by BimmerMPower
To those of you who have given me some support and tips, thank you. But I don't understand everyone who is getting so offended and bashing me. I don't know why you think I would be coming on here and lying about all this stuff. I really wasn't trying to cause a big fuss or anything, just trying to get some helpful info. from people who know a lot about BMW's. And for the person who made comments about my family being so dumb and my mom should be getting a 540. I think the 530 is still a pretty good car and the 540 is a little to pricey and we wouln't need a car like that for my mom anyway. And as far as my dad not owning a BMW, he is a contractor and has a dodge van so that is why he does not have one. I never said I had save 20 grand already, I said a majority of the cost. It is very possible to save that amount of money because I have saved pretty much everything I have earned and received and have invested my money and haven't been spending it all on weed and coke, etc. like everyone else. As far as me being an irresponsible teen who will be racing all over the place, take a look at the parking lot at my school and I will be the least of your worries. There are all sorts of BMW's, tons of mercedes, some porsches, all types of fast audis, a rolls, etc., etc. Thanks to those of you who are allowing me to have this dream and I hope I will be able to get some helpful info. from everyone that will help with buying the car.

Just for the record, it's not a question of jealousy. The guys on here are giving you "helpful info." This is coming from a kid JUST LIKE YOU. I said I am never going to drive fast, I respect the power of the car, I would never put my car in that type of danger. Trust me, when I said it, I was sincere. BS!!!!!! I swear, once I got familiar with the car, it was over. Seriously man, I know exactly what you are going through. I was probably more obsessed with M3s than you, I still am. You have no clue. But I really think you should hold off on the M3. You can do so much more with the money you have in the long run. I wish I would have done the same. I know you are thinking, shit, I want to have a nice ass car for my first car and meet the standards of everyone in the school. But once you get older and mature, you will begin to understand that it doesn't matter. You will shit on everyone in the long run, if you make a smart ecomonical decision. You should get a nice little 3 series (not too shabby) and learn how to drive that car. Once you get familiar with the car, you can upgrade. You will probably take this with a grain of salt. I hope you make the right decision. I only wish I could have done the right thing. I think about it everyday and wish I never got my 328is. I wish I got a civic Si or something similar and learned how to handle driving. It's okay if you don't listen to me. It's pretty evident that you won't. I can sense a feeling of fixedness. But that's okay. You will learn from your mistakes and that's fine. But if you don't want the future to look cloudy, consider what most people are saying right now. You won't be disappointed.

ive never spent money on weed or coke

I totally agree with Slvr328IS when it started to get time to get a car i was focused only on getting an M3 but now that i have my car and have had to pay for repairs on it i couldnt imagine what it would cost to pay for even the maintainence let alone the insurance on one...any clean e36 will be one of the best cars at your school even stock if thats what your worried about...and maybe its just me but i dont go around racing people, for the reason i dont know my car that well yet so be safe until you know you can drive your car well

I drive a 88 e30 because I spent all my money on weed and coke........:P

Originally posted by JH325i
I drive a 88 e30 because I spent all my money on weed and coke........:P :cashwalle

Originally posted by JH325i
I drive a 88 e30 because I spent all my money on weed and coke........:P

Your 'coolness' level certainly has risen.... :eyes1

I think you should strongly consider everybody elses advice and not buy the M3 yet. I am almost exactly like you, I am 16 and obsessed with M3's and would probably do anything to get one. For, example I have never spent any of my birthday/christmas money and for the past 2 summers I have been work 5 day weeks 12 hours a day at $15 an hour (not to bad for my first job ever) . So i can see how you could save enough money for an M3. Hell, i could buy one right now but I Know I could never afford the insurance/maintence. I also know I would probably kill myself because I would be way to tempted to smoke them annoying ricers :devillook. So, for right now I am gonna get either a 328is or 325is and I think you should do the same. Then when your out of college and have a good job go and buy your M3 :redspot

im totally with bmw325iman. at 17 and 6 months of my license i hit a telephone pole and nearly killed myself. 2 hrs it took for the jaws of life to get me out.

there is NO freaking way that a 17 yr old will drive an M3 responsibly. ESPECIALLY since he came on here with a title "Embarassment to the BMW name" because his sister didnt street race. the only 17 yr old who will drive responsibly is one that has been shocked into reality from the near or actual death of someone they know IMO. my best friend is 1.5 yrs younger than me. when he got his license he was scared to drive fast because he had been with me so many times and seen me in the hospital.

from what i read you seem like you are possibly smarter and more mature than the average 15 yr old, but that does not make it a good idea to drive an M3 for your first car still. i would truly suggest something less for at least a year until you can figure out more about driving. you will learn so much about driving in your first year by yourself.

as for the 540i comment...saying his family has shitty cars...whats that about? who cares? not everyone is into hp/speed. i am sure his mom and sis have very nice cars for them.
my pops has a 530i 5spd and it is no slouch. hes got the sports package and it looks good as hell. he didnt want a 540i cause he didnt see the need for extra HP and he is fearful of V8 mpg.

I'd back off on the e36 m3 idea myself. I'd shoot for an e30 if you wanted an M3. Besides I personally like the older style BMWs myself. The stuff from the 80's wasn't all that bad.

And I can tell you right now that maintaining a BMW is NO easy task unless you want to do a lot of the work on it yourself. You're going to get charged out the a$$ for the simple work just because it's a BMW instead of a Honda when you want to get the oil changed.

Good luck to you in getting your first bimmer though.

Well after reading all of these posts I have been taking it all into consideration. My sisters ex-boyfriend has an M3(not first car) and said pretty much the same thing, saying that if he had one for his first car he'd have killed himself. What I could do is take my sisters 93 325 and get it for a good price from her and tune it up because she will have "daddy' buy her a new one within another year or so. And her car is also the E36 body and navy blue so it's pretty much the same look I was going for, minus the extra power. I guess this would be a wise decision which would probably save my life and also a lot of money in the long run. And the 3 series is still an awesome car and has plenty speed for a first time driver. I wasn't worried about having the nicest car in the lot or anything I was just saying that there are kids with faster cars in the school. I will still consider getting the M3, but I'm not so sure after really thinking about it and being realistic. It would be great to save all that extra money for later on and have some more money now to spend on other stuff. I guess after or during college would be a good time to go with the M, then I would have more money and more driving experience. I really appreciate everyones help and I definately have considered what you have said.

I think you should join E46fanatics.com , you could join the "I am a rich punk 16 y/o with a 03 M3 SMG cause my parents ignored me while making there fortunes and feel buying me a stupid car will make up for never being at my T-Ball games as a kid"
It 's a popular club and you would be well received. Quick story that I have first hand knowledge of. I live in a very very rich area in S Fl where 16 y/o and M3', Vipers etc are common place. A 17 y/o smashed his 850 CSi:eek: that his dad gave him as a present so what does pops do , give the little basterd a 02 M3 Cab. Well 2 weeks go by and on my way to work at 6:00 am I come up on a mangled M3 and this time he killed not only himself but best friend, think this would have hapened if he had a IS300, nope. Young kids and hot rods dont mix.

BimmerMPower do what im doing start out w/ a stock 3 series learn to drive it and get small mods along the way and when you do leanr do drive it well and are responsible by all means get performance mods or even that M3

Tommy Vercetti, I'm not the rich punk kid like you say. My dad is a contractor and we are not rolling in money. He worked hard and got some nice cars, but he is smart enough not to buy me one because I will learn how to earn it on my own. I really hate when people say stuff like that because in my town which is known for being so rich and spoiled, everyone just assumes that I will be one of those kids getting a brand new BMW for my birthday without any hard work at all. I'm not like that and am working hard on my own to earn myself the BMW. And Quicksilver, that sounds like a good plan and is probably what I will end up doing.

i think that you should look into Maximas as a first car.:devillook



on second thought...that might be too fast.:devillook

Get a 328, you wont be dissapointed

nah, u should get a big boat of a car like me when I was 16. I had a Olds ninety eight (size of a Lincoln Town car). After driving that thing around the city...all the cars that r smaller were so easy to drive.....

what was that stupid crack about a 530? 530 are really nice cars; very well rounded sedan... Pretty much in the last 10 yrs, BMW has come out with decent cars in my opinion.....

how about putting a chip in your M3 to limit revs to 3000:D

Originally posted by norman
how about putting a chip in your M3 to limit revs to 3000:D

ROFL:laugh

I want some weed and coke...


It will make this thread a little more tolerable to suffer through...

but seriously, get the M if that's what u/parents want...everyone here just want u to be safe and make it to your 17 birthday,LOL

Give the new guy a break, and let's limit the flames in the future, shall we?