Well here it is doing this air ride was rough, many reasons.
First off i didnt think that it would sit up at the factory height and i dont want that soooo i have to make more changes i knew it would be hard since i think im one of the first, to do this i expect it.
I wanted to give you guys an update so heres a couple pics 1 completely deflated 30psi and the other at the same height all around various differnt air pressures.

can this form of suspention be used to higher the nose of a car?
the koenig has had many a front end repair due to speed bumps and kerbs. http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r381/koenig_ks8/neillwatson_1028482-1.jpg

Is that the lowest setting?

Will you have to align it at your ideal air pressure? Is there a air compressor installed?

iirc, he only has schrader-valves at each bag, compressor coming soon.

is this: The Worlds 1st air-bagged E31??

So, You can't fall asleep at freinds house then, Might lean all the way home! Can't connect with speed bumps, That could prove tragic! Even new air bags no how to find a way with leaking, Got to respect them for that!!! Once the compressor is installed, A beautiful 8 loudly clicking at a stop light to maintain ride height, Lol! Why take so much sport out of the car other than it being your car?

not sure but didn't volvo build 740/760 estate with some kind of air operated suspention height ajuster to the rear end for heavy loads?

Benz as did Lincoln had models with air and they always were prone to deflate and were a lot of trouble to maintain. Nice soft ride but would have lots of body lean on the exit ramps!!

On my 10 wheelers years ago, I had air on some of the trucks, were nice when unloaded but a real hand full when loaded or trying to deliver/dump material in uneven terrain.

Air is nothing new but requires a deep understanding of the application and suspension dynamics to get it close to right.

Hard to beat the reliability and predictability of a piece of thick metal wire wound in a coil!

I have to say i think if i had known that it was going to be this much of a pain i prob would have gone with the way kozi did with his set up simple and effective.
as far as the valving and compressor go im thinking of useing the valves that tractors use for there rear suspension air ride
i can lower the car some more ,thing is i have to undo some welding i have already done :( .I had placed the struts were the instructions had told me to and that let to the stock height.
Crazy huh...When i had the dinan springs in i had a lower height

I do know the feeling, I bought 7 pairs of springs on my fist 8 trying to do something unique, I end up copying 90% of what everyone else had already done, Wish i had the money i waisted.

latest local authoritys craze in the uk are speed bumps. Aimed at slowing traffic down, outside schools and anywhere else they se fit.
The ks8 is two low to get over most of them. (can't take the wife shopping any more) If the bags lifted the nose 50/60 mm + only to be used at slow speeds. then this is somthing I would look at.

California has followed the Mexican tradition of huge speedbumps everywhere. In Mexico, the speedbumps are a necessity since people do not stop at all at stop signs. In Los Angeles, speedbumps are used to deter drivers from cuttin' thru neighborhoods during peak traffic hours. In Mexico, people bust out jackhammers in the neighborhoods and bust up part of the speedbumps to ease the large bump. I'm thinking of going on a spree here in Los Angeles to do the same in the middle of the night!

Of course, there are millions of potholes in our city--the roads are sh*t. Zero potholes have been fixed. The only thing the idiot mayor has been doing is adding more and more speedbumps (and screwing more & more young chicas who are looking to get ahead in city politics).

Pinches topes!!!

http://www.coco-realty.com/images/topes.jpg

http://www.correo-gto.com.mx/upload/foto/3/6/2/GTO-TOPES.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2367/2074166850_72e1f62337.jpg

The air suspension control system from a '96 to '02 Range Rover should work for you.

Compressor and valving in a box with a separate cpu. Simple resistive height sensors on all 4 corners and 4 programmable heights. Each corner is adjustable at each height as well.

Rebuild kits for the compressor and valving are readily available and the parts are usually available on the 'bay.

If you could find a RR being converted to coils the equipment price would be reasonable. The RR dealers are like BMW dealers in that they don't want to fix anything so they are selling multi thousand dollar coil conversions as the "Cost Effective" way to avoid having to do troubleshooting to find the leak.

What size are your rims? They look like 17-18s?? Are you keeping the car "sporty" or turning it into a Luxo-cruiser type?

not sure how your setup was built but it should be pretty straight forward. I have 2 cars on aftermarket Air suspension.

I use a manifolds and individual valves with a combo of parts. One is a sport setup and the other is for ride comfort. Bags are bags, they all install the same way minus the mouting options or if your using bag-overs....which WILL kill your oem shocks pretty fast depending how switch happy you are.

I have Digital controls on each car but still play with the manual switches all the time...its addicting!!

If you plan out the setup start to finish, it should take a couple hours if u have all the tools u need and know how to weld the cups for the rear bags...or just drill and bolt them in place ;)

Euro cars (and sum Japanese like Infiniti) are prolly the hardest because they have seperate shock/springs on the rear.

Anywayz, Congrats!! It will be cool to see the very first 8'er on air-ride!!!

The setup I'll be installing this summer (850) will just be for the front only. Just to get the car up on ramps and driveways.

G' luck!!

Thx 8 let me tell you i been thinking and thinking hummm trade for the struts...lol
But my biggest problem is not sticking with something to see it thru in this case it wont cost me more money just more time which seems like its harder to come by.
Koneg D 1 thing i didnt do was see how high this will get fully inflated ill check that when it stops raining, thinking about it last night im getting some ramps for all 4 corners and cut all the welds drop it completly on the tires and then weld from there.
On the rear its a lil differnt there are long spacers since the bag isnt tall enough.

I sitting with 5" of front lip clearance and still have to be cautious. Here is my last encounter with the authorities solution to traffic.

I sitting with 5" of front lip clearance and still have to be cautious. Here is my last encounter with the authorities solution to traffic.
oh that looks familar. I did that twice friday 13th and friday 20th of june
(black friday)
3 1/2 inches clearance thats all. I want bags independant of shocks. just to avoid kerbs + speed bumps. and it will be easer to get a jack under.

I strongly recommend you check out AiRride technologies..

They have some nice controlers/ride height systems.. i have seen a local custom truck-shop use their products on a Escalade install.

Options like, "adjust the ride height" with a wireless-alarm remote.
pre-set pressures, etc..

http://www.ridetech.com/catalog/Control_Compressor_Systems-32-1.html

I'd have to disagree on the LR air managment..

I had an old P38 Range- 4.6HsE...their valve-block and controller was super complicated,and often error out into EAS-Fault.
it's was too tied-into the Body Control Module
(all developed to not allow improper use/avoiding law-suits)

Heres a couple more picsFully inflated at 100-110 psi and front deflate then fully deflated all around.
@ full inflation i was able to get almost 28" on the rear and almost 28.5" on the front

koenig D is that what you were looking 4?

koenig D is that what you were looking 4?
if I was to go down this road, I would not want to modify the ront suspention. just put some kind of contraption on the front end to raise the nose. I don't know enouth about the dynamics of the steering mecanisum to totaly go for air bags. might try hydrolics to do it,powered by the power steering pump.

BMW used air suspension on the e39 540 wagons, complete with "air supply device", leveling controls, and a lowered sport air spring option. Have a look on RealOEM; looks like you could retrofit the whole system to an 8, if you're a glutton for punishment...

New to me! http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=DR62&mospid=47561&btnr=33_0530&hg=33&fg=50

For fun I checked the price on the "air supply device" - $780, enjoy.

The e61 uses airbags for the self leveling suspension as well in the rear.

Well D you asked and i responded and as far as hydro good luck with that, You will need major modding for that 1

Currentytrying to get the car to rest on the tires

Ok i have reached bottom , seems like the air bags arent collapsing as far as i would like them too.
I took them off to get this low.
???? what to do what to do.

mod the top of the wheelwells

Im going to have to do some thing drastic, to hell with the airbag for the front.
Im going to go with twin cylinders per corner, Hummm i wonder if this project has gone to hell yet???

air bag fine: struts are bottomed out...and still too long :(

Cylinders go out a lot with blown seals. Plus u have to run accumulators with them or they ride like youre not on shocks or springs at all. It isnt a big deal but I (personally) prefer a simple setup with less things to go wrong.

Or (if its not bottomed out) lower the bracket mounting point on the strut case.

Your project is moving along well. Minor roadbumps...but to be expected when you're doing sumthing that hasnt been done yet!

Kudos!

Im going to have to do some thing drastic, to hell with the airbag for the front.
Im going to go with twin cylinders per corner, Hummm i wonder if this project has gone to hell yet???you did great to get this far but anything less than an actual air strut with incorporated rebound/damping and computer controlled ride height is likely to fall short of your expectations.my benz has the airmatic suspension and it is fantastic until there is a problem.air just isnt the best way to support a car,imo.

air bag fine: struts are bottomed out...and still too long :(

Cylinders go out a lot with blown seals. Plus u have to run accumulators with them or they ride like youre not on shocks or springs at all. It isnt a big deal but I (personally) prefer a simple setup with less things to go wrong.

Or (if its not bottomed out) lower the bracket mounting point on the strut case.

Your project is moving along well. Minor roadbumps...but to be expected when you're doing sumthing that hasnt been done yet!

Kudos!
Thats what universal air told me but i would only gain an 1". from the last time i took pics its still not enough MORE MORE!!! HA HA HAH.

I'm not sure if this is useful to you due to tire clearance in the front, but bilstein will shorten your shock shafts and pistons for you should you desire. (If they're bilsteins of course)
I seem to remember a couple people with track oriented e30s going this route

Its low enough , i just got these struts back from bilstein a while ago from the revalve

also I wouldn't recommend driving with it low like this, but you can open up the front shocks and cut the bump stops shorter. I definitely know a bunch of budget track nuts that have done this and they say it's a piece of cake.
This is under the assumption that all bilstein inserts are constructed the same way, seems reasonable to me

Thx but naaa not after all that dough i just paid for them.
No worries the car wont move too much with the car on the tires