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revtor
07-14-2008, 05:01 PM
Update: The article below may still be of use, but I wrote new more detailed articles regarding this and related modifications. Here are the links to the updated versions:
• HVAC control unit roller wheel illumination (http://e31wiki.org/wiki/HVAC_control_unit_roller_wheel_illumination): Fix for the roller wheel illumination.
• HVAC control unit button illumination (http://e31wiki.org/wiki/HVAC_control_unit_button_illumination): This article shows a very simple method to increase the brightness of the button background illumination. This may be desired after pumping the roller wheel brightness.
• HVAC control unit button indicator illumination (http://e31wiki.org/wiki/HVAC_control_unit_button_indicator_illumination): The HVAC control unit has green and yellow status indicators in the buttons. Some may prefer an all orange look. This article describes how to replace the original LEDs with BMW orange LEDs.


(Some pictures of this mod were already posted several months ago, but I completely forgot to make a write-up for the forums. I made a complete and detailed Dutch article for ClubE31 Netherlands' club magazine. This is a rush translation from that article, so I hope there aren't too much typos and mistranslations. I will post this article at a few E31 communities)


HVAC/IHKA controller roller wheel illumination mod

Whoever drove an 8 series at night probably noticed the inconsistency in illumination of the controls. Especially the roller wheels for temperature and fan speed on the HVAC/IHKA controller are barely illuminated. Whether or not you find this an issue depends from person to person, but some people strive for perfection. This article is meant as a guide for people who wish to fix the bad roller wheel illumination but don't know yet what to expect and where to begin.

The article is written into detail so everyone should be able to understand it and attempt the mod for themselves if interested - even people with little technical skills. Seasoned users may want to skip large blocks of text or even only refer to the pictures as a guide.


Removing the HVAC/IHKA control unit

Unlike the radio and OBC/MID, the HVAC/IHKA control unit cannot be removed from the front. This means the center console will have to be removed. This sounds worse than it actually is - if you're not too clumsy it should take less than ten minutes.

To begin the radio and OBC/MID must be taken out. The radio comes first. It would lead us too far to discuss this into detail because of all the different mounting systems - if you don't know how to remove the radio, follow the instructions from the manufacturer. Alternatively you can search for experiences and tips from other owners on the various E31 communities the Internet has to offer.

Once the radio is out, you can easily remove the OBC/MID from the center console by reaching your hand in the opening left by the radio, pressing the tab on the bottom of the OBC/MID and meanwhile pushing the unit towards yourself.

The next step is revealing the screws that hold the center console in place. Pull up the shifter's leather boot. It just clicks softly in the center console and should come off quite easily. Then grab the shift knob with both hands and pull hard and straight up. This will require some force. Avoid accidently hitting something when the shift knob comes off the shift lever. The metal shift lever has some sharp edges - it's recommended to wrap a soft towel around it to avoid damage to the center console if you accidently touch it while taking it out. Depending on the model you'll spot one or two screws in the opening of the shifter that hold the center console.

The other screws are on the top side of the center console. On a plastic center console two caps above the OBC/MID hide the screws. Be careful when removing these caps to avoid tool damage on the plastic. On a wooden center console three screws can be found on top of the OBC/MID opening. Remove all screws.

The center console is now loose. If the car is equipped with a hands-free mobile phone you must disconnect the microphone now. The microphone is the small grill left from the OBC/MID. Reach in through the OBC/MID opening, push the microphone out of the center console and disconnect it. All connectors inside the center console will fit in one direction only and the shape or color makes clear where they should connect to. Thus there's no real need to label all connectors although that never hurts.

There are two ways to proceed. Remove the center console completely or just flip it until you can reach the HVAC/IHKA controller's rear side. If you remove the center console, you must disconnect all switches left and right from the shifter. You must press the small tabs on left and right sides of these connectors to unlock them. The HVAC/IHKA control unit has two connectors: A large one with a locking handle and above that a small one - both on the left side of the unit.

Now you have the center console out of the car or flipped in a way you can reach the HVAC/IHKA control unit's rear side, remove it from the center console by removing the four screws that hold it (two on the bottom and one on each side).


Dismantling the control unit

Once the HVAC/IHKA control unit is out of the car, it's time to take a closer look at the failing illumination. This means dismantling the unit completely. Even if the cause can't interest you, the fix will require you to take it completely apart.

Always put the unit on a clean and soft towel when you work on it. The front scratches very easily. Always work very carefully. If something seems to be stuck, check twice if you overlooked anything instead of using brute force. The risks involved with this mod are very low, but a careless person will manage to break everything...

Begin with the removal of the buttons. The best and safest way to do this is by using a key removal tool. This is a simple tool which hooks on both sides behind the key so you can pull it off very gently. One that works for a computer keyboard should also work for the HVAC/IHKA control unit. Alternatively you can use a small screwdriver or knife.

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On the unit's bottom you can see the three axles around which the roller wheels turn. Each axle has a small lip. Turn all three roller wheels to their center position - all lips will now point to the front. Remember this as it will aid the assembling later on. Grab the lip with a pair of long nose pliers, push the it slightly towards the center of the axle and then pull straight up with a bit force to remove the axle. Remove all three axles.

Remove the connector from the fan and remove the four screws on the rear side. Take the backside off. Be careful when handling the unit at this point. The roller wheels are now loose, but they can't be removed yet due to the existing illumination. If you press the wheels you may damage the illumination.

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On one side of the printed circuit board (PCB) is a dashboard filament bulb. Turn the bulb a quarter counterclockwise and pull it out. The PCB is mounted with two screws. Remove these and lift the board. Removal may be stiff and possibly you must bend the wide white flatcable a little to aid. Below the board is yet another PCB, also mounted with two screws which you must remove. Take both circuit boards out of the unit. On the bottom PCB you'll notice a black plastic tube - the car's interior temperature sensor. It may have collected a lot of dust over the years so now may be a good time to clean it with compressed air. Be careful though, as the wires from the thermocouple are very thin and you don't want to damage these.

With the circuit boards removed you can see the cause of the bad roller wheel illumination. The bulb's light is distributed to the wheels by a three legged plastic lightbar. That's a very optimistic construction and practice learns us that it doesn't work. Remove the two screws that hold the lightbar. Now you can carefully remove the roller wheels along with the lightbar.

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In theory the lightbar could work, but it would require a much brighter light source. There's simply too much light lost in the construction. However, a much brighter filament bulb might melt the plastic.


Solutions

The goal is to get more light into the roller wheels. A few options are possible. A simple yet effective solution to the problem comes from Wuffer - a well-respected member from the Canadian and North American E31 communities. Wuffer cut off the bulb holder from the lightbar and attached one high brightness LED on each remaining bar. LEDs are able to produce a lot of light in a small angle without the disadvantage of heat generation as with filament bulbs. This way enough light can be distributed to the roller wheels. The drawback is that you must damage the lightbar. My preference goes out to non-destructive mods.

One of the nicest approaches is presented by Martin - an electronics wizard from the Swiss and German E31 communities. Martin developed a printed circuit board with LEDs and brightness control which fits exactly in place of the lightbar - plug-and-play. For those who don't have the means to develop their own circuit boards, Martin also sells it for a reasonable price.

The solution presented in this article is some sort of golden mean between the forementioned approaches: A non-destructive solution built with simple hobby material. Just as with Martin's solution a brightness control is provided to adjust the light output exactly to the rest of the HVAC/IHKA controller's illumination.


Choosing the right LEDs

LEDs are available in all dimensions, shapes, colors, brightnesses,... In other words it's important to make the right choice. In this mod the LEDs will be placed inside the roller wheels. This means very little light will be lost - the LEDs don't have to be very bright. In fact, about 20 millicandela is already sufficient. Modern high brightness LEDs produce several thousands millicandela, so 20mcd shouldn't be a problem at all. The brightness control will allow you to adjust the amount of produced light exactly to your needs, so the exact brightness specification of the LED isn't crucial. What is important is the LEDs color. To match BMW's traditional orange the LEDs must feature a wavelength between 605 and 610 nanometer. LEDs with shorter or longer wavelengths will turn out too yellow or too red.

There are several constructions possible to mount the LEDs inside the roller wheels. This article describes two. The most simple one is to use standard round LEDs looking down into the roller wheels. For this setup the LEDs must suffice following requirements:
• Shape: standard round LED
• Diameter: maximum 3mm
• Viewing angle: 80° or better
• Brightness: 20mcd or better
• Wavelength: 605nm to 610nm (BMW orange)

The other construction uses small to very small surface mount (SMD) LEDs which look forward from within the roller wheel. These LEDs are only recommended if you have experence with soldering small components. Otherwise soldering may turn out in frustration. To get good results, the LEDs should meet following requirements:
• Shape: SMD
• Diameter: maximum 3mm in all directions
• Viewing angle: 120° or better
• Brightness: 15mcd or better
• Wavelength: 605nm to 610nm (BMW orange)

Small SMD LEDs often don't produce enough light. A simple fix to this is to use two LEDs in parallel for each roller wheel. In that case don't forget to double the current through in the calculations later on.

It's very unlikely the LEDs will have the correct brightness out-of-the-box. We need a brightness control.


Brightness control

The brightness control is simple and fits on a very small piece of prototyping board. This is a pre-manufactured printed circuit board with holes/islands in a fixed grid so you can easily solder components and connect islands the way you want without going through the hassle of developing your own PCB. If you restrict yourself to the board dimensions in this article, the dimmer can be mounted inside the HVAC/IHKA control unit and you will be able to adjust the brightness from the rear through the lamp hole.

Most LEDs have an operating voltage below 3.5 volt - orange LEDs usually 2 to 2.2V. You could put three LEDs in series - one for each roller wheel - without requiring more than the battery voltage. Putting the LEDs in series helps to keep the heat dissipation down in the resistor and transistor. After all, the more voltage is over the LEDs, the less is left for the resistor and transistor. The resistor limits the current through the LEDs. It should never be omitted! In other words, if the battery is 12V and the LEDs 2V each, never put 6 LEDs in series without resistor to get up to 12V. It's better to have two branches of 3 LEDs in series with a resistor for each branch. It is recommended to leave at least a few volts margin between the LEDs and the battery voltage. This avoids black-outs when the battery voltage takes a dip - for example when starting the engine. Another thing you must keep in mind is that a car's battery voltage isn't 12V as printed on it, but actually closer to 13.8V with - in worst case scenario - peaks up to 15V in a running car. If you calculate resistors with 12V as battery voltage you may run into a problem later on. You best always calculate the resistors keeping the worst case scenario in mind - in a car that's 15V.

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Components
• Prototyping board board with holes/islands (0.1" pitch)
• P1: Trimmer potentiometer 100K Linear (top adjustment)
• T1: Transistor BC547 or equivalent
• R1: See text
• D1...D3: See text

The schematic shows a simple emitter follower circuit. In an emitter follower the voltage over the emitter (E) always equals the voltage over the base (B) minus a small voltage drop over the base-emitter. When trimmer potentiometer P1 is turned, transistor T1 automatically adjusts the current through collector (C) and emitter until the voltage over the emitter is back equal to the voltage over the base. Ohm's Law in action. This is certainly not the best way to dim LEDs, but it's simple and small. Exactly what we need.

The value of the current limiting resistor R1 isn't critical in this circuit's case because the current can be adjusted with trimpot P1. For safety, turn the trimpot all the way to minimum (counterclockwise) before you first turn on power. If the resistor value turns out to be too low, you will not blow the LEDs.

Resistor R1's value can be calculated as follows. The example uses LEDs with an operating voltage of 2.2V and a current of 20 milliampere. Because of the voltage drop over base and emitter you can calculate with 14V battery voltage instead of the worst case scenario.

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The calculated resistor value of 370 ohm does not exist in the popular E12 series. You can get resistor values outside the E12 series but these will be more expensive. So its best to stick to E12 values. The E12 series consist out of following base values: 1.0, 1.2, 1.5, 1.8, 2.2, 2.7, 3.3, 3.9, 4.7, 5.6, 6.8, and 8.2. Unless the calculated value is very close to a lower E12 value, you should always pick the next higher value from the E12 series. In this case that would be 390 ohm.

It's important to determine the amount of power that will be dissipated by the resistor because standard resistors can handle up to 0.25 watt only.

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The power in the resistor is well below the maximum allowed value. There are no problems to be expected from this side. You should now have gathered all information required to build the brightness control, so let's get started...

It's best to start with cutting the circuit board to the correct dimensions. The material can easily be sawn with an iron saw. The rough sides can be worked away with a smooth file. The final board should be 3 x 9 islands large. Next drill a 2.5mm hole for the mounting. Take a look at the print layout for its exact location. Not too close to the side but certainly not too close to the trimpot. You must avoid the screw's head can touch and short circuit the trimpot's connection leads. If uncertain you can always put a small piece of isolating plastic foil between the screw and trimpot.

Put the components on the PCB as shown in the components view. Note that a standard trimpot has a length of five islands while the print layout only has room for four islands. You must bend two connection leads a bit so it fits on four islands. This way the distance between the connection leads and the screw is increased. Moving all components one island to the right wouldn't work. Once you put the HVAC/IHKA controller back together you'll see why. The available space is limited.

Solder the components and lay the traces as shown in the print layout view. Important: Both components view and print layout are shown as seen from the comonents side. If you work on the solder side you must mirror the print layout! You can make traces by connecting islands with large amounts of solder, but it's a lot easier, less messy and with less chance upon unwanted short-circuits if you first lay the traces with naked copper wire or the remains of the components' connection leads.

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The circuit is simple so it's virtually impossible to mess up. The usage of the brightness control is of course not limited to the HVAC/IHKA control unit. You could use it everywhere you want to adjust the brightness of a couple of LEDs. For larger quantities of LEDs you better look out for a real LED dimmer that works with puls code modulation (PCM) - much more efficient.

revtor
07-14-2008, 05:01 PM
Mounting the LEDs

When you look into the heart of one of the roller wheels you'll notice two white rings with a small gap in the center position. To make the roller wheels light up nicely in the dark, the light must be distributed between those two white rings.

Using SMD LEDs this isn't much of a problem: Just place the LEDs somewhere between the rings pointing forward. The exact location isn't crucial because of the very large and evenly spread viewing angle. Anywhere between 9 and 14mm deep inside the wheel is fine. Because SMD components don't have connection leads you'll have to build a support which can be mounted inside the HVAC/IHKA controller and reaches into the roller wheel. In the picture you see an example of two SMD LEDs on a support made of some left-overs.

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When using standard round LEDs the placement inside the wheel must be very precise. Since the LED will be looking down (as opposed to the forward-looking SMD LEDs), the limited viewing angle will make that quite a bit light is lost to the bottom instead of shining towards the front. It's important to catch as much light from the LED's side as possible. The best location for the LED is when the thicker ring at the LED's base is at exact the same height as the upper white ring inside the roller wheel. That's 8mm from the LED's base. Bend the connection leads 90° at this point. Don't forget LEDs are polarized. To avoid confusion or wiring issues later on, bend the leads of all LEDs in the same direction. If the LEDs have long leads the distance between the 90° bend and the HVAC/IHKA controller's front is also important - 9mm maximum.

The LED must be placed so it just doesn't touch the white ring inside the roller wheel. Too much to the front and the LED may grip in the white ring's gap which will give the wheel an annoying audible click around the center position. Too much to the rear and the axle will no longer fit in the roller wheel. The connection leads shouldn't come out of the roller wheels too high - they might hit the potentiometers on the HVAC/IHKA controller's printed circuit board. Stick to the sides.

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If - even after carefully measuring - the LED isn't in the exact location after mounting, you can still change its position a bit by bending the leads a bit further. That it isn't all dead straight can't be seen from the outside.

As said earlier on you must build a support when working with the SMD LEDs. In theory you could also do that for the round LEDs, but the their connection leads are stiff enough to cover the distance. In the picture you see a support with two parallel SMD LEDs on a piece of circuit board left-over and a cut-off header. Each LED produces only 8mcd - thus two LEDs where needed per roller wheel. Putting LEDs in parallel without a resistor for each LED isn't a recommended setup, but space limitations force us to use this approach. The LEDs feature a viewing angle of 170° which gives a very evenly spread light distribution.

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Soldering inside the HVAC/IHKA control unit's enclosure isn't practical. It's best to wire and solder everything prior to mounting the LEDs inside the unit. Solder the wires in a way that allows you to play a bit with the distances between the LEDs. Don't forget the wires to the left roller wheel (the right one looked from behind) have to make a detour around the temperature sensor's tube. Take the old plastic lightbar as guidance when wiring the LEDs. Keep the wires together with tape or even better heat-shrink tubing.

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How exactly you mount the LEDs is up to you. In this article the LEDs are mounted in the HVAC/IHKA controller using hot glue. One of the advantages of thermoplast glues is that it begins to fixate within minutes. There's little space in the HVAC/IHKA controller's enclosure for clamps and such, thus the less long you have to press the item the better. Another advantage is that the glue - once cooled down - can easily be removed if you're not satisfied with the result or rather would like to restore the unit in its original condition. The glue sticks strong enough to the plastic to stay put even during the wildest rides, but if you lever it with a screwdriver or knife the glue separates from the plastic in its whole without leaving traces. Thick blobs of glue are much easier to remove than a thin smear, but don't exaggerate. Also make sure you don't spill glue inside a roller wheel.

One of the drawbacks of thermoplast glues is the terrible stringing. Luckily those very fine glue strings cool down very rapidly and don't stick well. So don't mind it when you decorate the HVAC/IHKA controller's inside with fine glue strings - they can be removed very easily. Possibly not all hot glues are suited for the job. Experiment a bit on a similar piece of plastic to find a good glue. Once you're happy with the glue and your glueing skills you can mount the new lightbar in the enclosure.

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The brightness control can be mounted once the glue is hardened. There's a screw hole in the location where previously the filament bulb was placed. Mount the brightness control there with one of the two screws you have left from the old lightbar. The screw hole was previously unused, so putting the screw in may require some force. The PCB should be mounted tight - it should not be able to move around. Double check the screw and trimpot leads don't make contact. If you feel uncertain about the close distance put a small piece of isolating plastic or a dot of glue inbetween.


Reassembling the control unit

Most of the work is now done. All that's left is re-assembling the HVAC/IHKA controller, adjust the brightness and put the car's center console back together.

Put the bottom PCB back into the HVAC/IHKA controller's enclosure. You will now see why the placement and dimensions of the brightness control were so important. The dimmer fits exactly in the PCB's cut-out. Mount the board with the two screws. Turn the roller wheels back to their middle position and put the axles back in place. The axles' lips should point to the front of the unit.

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Now is a good time to connect the brightness control to the voltage supply. The voltage supply will be taken from the bulb's socket - the tin-plated surfaces around the opening where the filament bulb used to sit. There's no indication of what the positive and negative pole is, so pay attention. The mass (negative pole) is the tin-plated surface closest to the side of the PCB (after mounting closest to the roller wheels). The positive pole is obviously the surface on the opposite side of the hole. The tin-plated surfaces are available on both sides of the circuit board, but it's best to solder on the bottom side of the PCB. This way you cannot see the connection wires once the unit is mounted completely.

When you put the top printed circuit board back in place, make sure the wires to the brightness control do not obstruct the access to the trimmer potentiometer through the bulb's hole. Mount the board with the two screws. Now put the backside back on the unit and mount it with the four screws - one in each corner. Don't forget to connect the small fan on the rear. If all went well the trimpot should be located exactly where the bulb used to be so you can easily reach it from the rear and adjust the brightness with a completely assembled unit.

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Time to adjust the brightness. If you didn't already so, turn the trimpot all the way to the left (counterclockwise). No need to put the center console back in place yet - just hook up the HVAC/IHKA control unit loosely. You only have to connect the large blue connector. The small one isn't required for testing. The same goes for the radio, OBC/MID, microphone and all buttons around the shift lever: no need to connect them.

Turn the E31's key to position I and turn on the lights. The instrument lights should now light up. Adjusting the brightness will be difficult in a bright environment, so it's best to continue in a darkened garage or in the evening. The trimpot is in its minimum position, thus the roller wheels will remain dark. To avoid unwanted short-circuits when adjusting the brightness in the dark, operate the trimpot with a plastic screwdriver or something non-conductive that fits. Turn the trimpot clockwise until the roller wheels' illumination is just as bright as the buttons above. It's very likely you will have to turn at least halfway before the roller wheels light up.

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Once you are satisfied with the result, it's time to make the car ready to hit the road again. Mount the HVAC/IHKA controller in the center console, hook up all connectors and put the center console back in place. Before you tightly screw the center console in place make sure the radio harness and OBC/MID connector can be reached and didn't accidently get stuck below the center console. If all that is fine, put the radio and OBC/MID back in place and reattach the shift lever's leather boot.

This concludes the modification. It may be just a small detail, but remember that many small details may lead to a significant difference.

Auraraptor
07-14-2008, 05:08 PM
Amazing!! :embarrasm

tread72
07-14-2008, 05:10 PM
great post, now I wish someone would post a detailed step by step on how to move the controller to the center were the cell phone was.

Luko840
07-14-2008, 05:13 PM
Fantastic Post! :eyecrazy

8eights
07-14-2008, 05:34 PM
Ditto! on all replys, Bring your/Our Cd Box upgrade post over here, That was also amazing. You do some awesome work Revtor!

*****

bRIZZAd
07-14-2008, 08:45 PM
So why the heck did BMW miss this extra effort before the 8's left the factory?

I'm currently using the 'brail' method to find the controls in the dark and it's no fun. Great post Revtor..

revtor
07-15-2008, 04:27 AM
Here's another small modification I made to the HVAC/IHKA control unit:

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You may not notice at first, but I replaced the button indicator LEDs with orange ones (they appear "yellow" in the picture above - the "pink" ones are the original orange button backlights).

Originally the button indicators are green and yellow. Never really like that combination. Since all illumination in the car is already BMW orange, I decided to change the indicators to orange LEDs. The picture above is an old version. In the mean time I have changed the LEDs to the same SMD LEDs I used for the roller wheels. I really like the soft well spread light these LEDs produce.

If you wish to perform this mod too, be careful when removing the old LEDs. The printed circuit board is double sided (traces on both sides) which makes desoldering a bit more difficult. Don't pull hard on the LEDs when the solder isn't flowing well. You may tear off islands or traces on one side. Keep the soldering iron too long on the island and the island may come off by itself... You really don't want traces or islands to come loose. It's a pain to fix.

Bring your/Our Cd Box upgrade post over here, That was also amazing.Thanks! I will be building a second one soon, so I might make a write-up of that one too :)

Ahmed303
07-15-2008, 10:56 AM
Man!!! I wish I had your mad electronics skillz.

TonyUK840
07-15-2008, 12:01 PM
Firstly, excellent post there Revtor. Very detailed, but quite possibly a little scary for many weekend DIY people. I wish I was as patient as you with these things, but 'so much to do so little time' :)

great post, now I wish someone would post a detailed step by step on how to move the controller to the center were the cell phone was.

not a step by step, but here are the pictures I took whilst doing said relocation.

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end result (before straightening the new bezel (I also took time to put some LEDs, though not using the 'proper' method posted above by Revtor, in the roller dials)

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and a night time shot showing the HVAC in new location, and shining brightly.

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and the best pic I have to hand showing the finished article. Will take some daytime ones if anyone interested.

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1chiban
07-15-2008, 12:12 PM
One hell of a read, Revtor! Thank you! Although I'm sure I could accomplish this... it just seems like a major PITA! More power to you for not only completing this but for making such a great step by step DIY guide.


Rock on bro!
Thomas

tread72
07-15-2008, 01:08 PM
Tony,

Did you have to cut the wires to extend them? or did they reach the center?

sama
07-15-2008, 02:01 PM
Rob

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:)

revtor
07-15-2008, 02:36 PM
Lol, sama :D

tread72: The HVAC/IHKA controller's cable won't even come close to the phone's location. Either you cut the cable in half and lengthen each wire, or make an extension cord. The latter is the nicest solution, but one problem raises: where will you get matching connectors?

I haven't moved the unit, but it seems to me lengthening the cable is the easy part. Mounting the unit in the hole left by the phone is another thing. Furthermore, as you can see in Tony's pictures, the HVAC/IHKA controller's front is smaller than the hole - you'll have to make a facia to cover this.

TonyUK840
07-15-2008, 04:39 PM
lol (also) @ Sama :)

Rob, it is an easy, but time consuming job extending the wires. The only tricky part is the bezel for the HVAC unit to make it fit snugly in the centre partition. I now have a template for this and can make copies fairly easily.

When I get chance I make 5 or so, and put them on the 'shelf' for any future interest.

tread72
07-15-2008, 04:45 PM
I am going to try this, thanks for the help and can you scan a copy of the templet, I can use it as an over lay and cut from there.

revtor
07-18-2008, 02:45 PM
I couldn't resist, so I have been experimenting a bit with the HVAC/IHKA control unit...

I was wondering whether or not I could increase the brightness of the button's backlight. The roller wheels can easily be adjusted thanks to my earlier mod, but the button backlights are not affected by this.

The backlight LEDs are grouped the same way as the buttons are grouped. Each group contains three LEDs and a 2k2 (2200 ohm) resistor in series. These resistors limit the current through the LEDs and thus also the brightness. If you want to make the LEDs brighter, the resistor value should go down. You could replace the resistors with other ones, but one of the resistors is placed underneath a switch. Way too complex to replace that one. A simple solution is putting a resistor in parallel over the existing one. You don't have to remove the old one and the new one can be soldered on the other side of the PCB.

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/OP7dJSckxnuB0WrWVctZ2Bl9/full.jpg

Here you can see three parallel resistors soldered onto the PCB (the three light brown tubes with three red rings). The original resistors are on the other side of the board at exactly the same location. You're actually soldering the new resistors onto the leads of the old ones.

I have no specifications of the LEDs used by BMW, so I don't know what current they will take, but the measured current seemed pretty low to me. In other words, it seemed safe to increase the current considerably. In the picture the original 2k2 resistors are now paired with a 2k2 parallel resistor each. The total parallel resistance is now 1k1 (1100 ohm) which means the current doubles through the LED. Don't worry, the current is still low enough to assume the LEDs will not have any issues with it. I don't think it makes sense to go much brighter, so if you want to experiment with increasing the button's brightness I would not go any lower than say 1k8 for the parallel resistor (the LEDs can probably handle even lower values, but the illumination should never draw your attention away from the road).

This parallel resistor construction is of course not as flexible as the the brightness control for the roller wheels, but I thought I'd share the information with those who are interested.

Granite850i
05-21-2009, 01:29 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x74/BigTvProductions/P270308_2153Large.jpg

What steering wheel is this? :)

revtor
07-20-2009, 03:47 AM
I wrote new more detailed articles regarding this and related modifications. Here are the links to the updated versions:

• HVAC control unit roller wheel illumination (http://e31wiki.org/wiki/HVAC_control_unit_roller_wheel_illumination): Fix for the roller wheel illumination.
• HVAC control unit button illumination (http://e31wiki.org/wiki/HVAC_control_unit_button_illumination): This article shows a very simple method to increase the brightness of the button background illumination. This may be desired after pumping the roller wheel brightness.
• HVAC control unit button indicator illumination (http://e31wiki.org/wiki/HVAC_control_unit_button_indicator_illumination): The HVAC control unit has green and yellow status indicators in the buttons. Some may prefer an all orange look. This article describes how to replace the original LEDs with BMW orange LEDs.

Please note that some pictures are missing in the articles. I didn't have the time yet to make 'em and don't know when I will.

rick higgins
07-20-2009, 10:19 AM
I couldn't resist, so I have been experimenting a bit with the HVAC/IHKA control unit...

I was wondering whether or not I could increase the brightness of the button's backlight. The roller wheels can easily be adjusted thanks to my earlier mod, but the button backlights are not affected by this.

The backlight LEDs are grouped the same way as the buttons are grouped. Each group contains three LEDs and a 2k2 (2200 ohm) resistor in series. These resistors limit the current through the LEDs and thus also the brightness. If you want to make the LEDs brighter, the resistor value should go down. You could replace the resistors with other ones, but one of the resistors is placed underneath a switch. Way too complex to replace that one. A simple solution is putting a resistor in parallel over the existing one. You don't have to remove the old one and the new one can be soldered on the other side of the PCB.

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/OP7dJSckxnuB0WrWVctZ2Bl9/full.jpg

Here you can see three parallel resistors soldered onto the PCB (the three light brown tubes with three red rings). The original resistors are on the other side of the board at exactly the same location. You're actually soldering the new resistors onto the leads of the old ones.

I have no specifications of the LEDs used by BMW, so I don't know what current they will take, but the measured current seemed pretty low to me. In other words, it seemed safe to increase the current considerably. In the picture the original 2k2 resistors are now paired with a 2k2 parallel resistor each. The total parallel resistance is now 1k1 (1100 ohm) which means the current doubles through the LED. Don't worry, the current is still low enough to assume the LEDs will not have any issues with it. I don't think it makes sense to go much brighter, so if you want to experiment with increasing the button's brightness I would not go any lower than say 1k8 for the parallel resistor (the LEDs can probably handle even lower values, but the illumination should never draw your attention away from the road).

This parallel resistor construction is of course not as flexible as the the brightness control for the roller wheels, but I thought I'd share the information with those who are interested.

Revtor. I dont believe I would try this on my own. My eye's glazed over halfway thru the amazing instructions you provided.:D Do you do these modifications if a member were to UPS the unit to you? If so you have your first customer. What would the cost of this be? Thanks! Rick

carspainc.com
07-20-2009, 02:17 PM
Revtor. I dont believe I would try this on my own. My eye's glazed over halfway thru the amazing instructions you provided.:D Do you do these modifications if a member were to UPS the unit to you? If so you have your first customer. What would the cost of this be? Thanks! Rick

if you get the right LEDs with the same light output as the other leds you have already.
you can do without the dimmer and just use a resistor
i have modified my LEDs to sit on top of the old light rail.
i should have taken pics but forgot it in all the excitement.
pm me , if you want info on the project

revtor
07-21-2009, 05:52 AM
Do you do these modifications if a member were to UPS the unit to you? If so you have your first customer. What would the cost of this be?
I'm really sorry, but just as with all my other modifications I don't do modifications for other people. I try to document my mods as good as possible, so everyone should be able to reproduce it - or at least find someone who can.

Despite what you may think from my write-ups, I have little time to work on my cars or modifications. Even the simpliest mods take a long time to complete. That's one reason why I prefer not to build/modify stuff for other people. Another reason is that once I've completed a modification I lose interest in it. Don't get me wrong, if the mod is a success I really love the results but I don't want to go through the hassle of doing it all over again. You know, the "been there, done that" feeling...

if you get the right LEDs with the same light output as the other leds you have already.
you can do without the dimmer and just use a resistor
i have modified my LEDs to sit on top of the old light rail.
i should have taken pics but forgot it in all the excitement.
pm me , if you want info on the project
Sounds like the Wuffer approach. Wuffer has pictures. You could replace the dimmer in my mod with a resistor too, but the dimmer is what makes it flexible and easy to adjust for a perfect match. But if you don't think you can manage it - or don't know anyone who can, take a look at the groupbuy organized by 1chiban: PnP HVAC Kit (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1236217)

The kit offered in this groupbuy is made by Martin from 8er.org (http://8er.org/). It's as close to plug-and-play you can get. Obviously it still involves dismantling the unit - you can't go around that since the problem is inside the unit. Further only two wires need to be soldered. If even that is too hard, 1chiban will provide a service to do it for you.

Martin's kit also has a built-in dimmer, so feature-wise it's the same as my mod. The only difference is that I did my mod with BMW orange LEDs while Martin opted for white LEDs. There are pros and cons (http://e31wiki.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode#Monochromatic_light) for both. Note that Martin's kit only involves the roller wheel illumination. The two button modification I wrote about are not included and will never be a plug-and-play job because it involves soldering on the HVAC control unit PCB...

Here are some pictures of Martin's kit:

http://www.8er.ch/files/modifikationen/bilder/Klimabeleuchtung_02.jpg

http://www.8er.ch/files/bilder/klimabedienteil/Klima07b.jpg

http://www.8er.ch/files/bilder/klimabedienteil/Klima12.jpg