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XCELMotorsports
05-29-2008, 06:27 PM
Started noticing that almost EVERY single E39 on here...are modded to look like M5s or a higher end 5.

Wheres people with custom performance, suspension, and interior mods?

Cause if you think about it...everyone wants the same bumper, head lights, tail lights, rims...its getting kinda lame. Dont get me wrong, the m5 style is dead on almost perfect. But come on...wheres the individuality here?

Dont tell me im the only one here that wants to add bucket seats, coil overs, and track rims made by companys other then BBS and are not knock offs...

And dont think i want to make my car look like a civic when i say MODS.

Now flame on, for trying new things.:shifty

Or post some pics of E39s that doesn't look like every other e39.

On another note, anyone got more pics of this car?
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7576/e39vrshoodjpgap4.jpg

ronin009
05-29-2008, 06:29 PM
because most 5 series cars are bought and owned by middle age americans (at least when they are new) there is not a lot of options out there for modding the car. now that the newest E39s are 5 years old the options will be even more limited.

alexONE
05-29-2008, 06:34 PM
+1. I dont like the m5 bumber that much i think the oem bumper has cleaner lines and i think that goes better with the clean lines and style of the e39. not digging the m par obseesion or the shadowline nazis either

XCELMotorsports
05-29-2008, 06:41 PM
When i worked on my 240, there were owners that were 20-30+ at the track that would have real nice cars. And parts keep coming out from major companies, and its 19 years old.

I bet if some small shop started producing newer performance parts other then lights (cause thats all i been seeing) would make a decent amount of money huh? Just imagine turbo kits, custom manifolds, bolt on catback systems, intakes that works, big brake brackets...with out charging the extra 500% price markup because of the brand.

That could be the next big thing...i could be a rich man. Or E39 owners aren't interested in performance mods, other then show mods?

And an idea... Carbon fiber shells for our doors...cause we all know these doors weigh a ton.

And im sorry if this turns into a rant, but doesnt it seem like alot of owners on here...act like elitist? If i took brembo brakes off of a STi (around 500 bucks) and larger brembo rotors and slapped em on my bmw...i have a feeling i would get flamed because their not made for BMW.

Cause i kinda got looked down when i recommended the ford electric fan that out blows most aftermarket fans without paying the price of most aftermarket fans.

SHWELL
05-29-2008, 06:43 PM
Limited options will tend to do this to a car. Some of the really personalized mods are ver y small and not noticed so much.... I bet noone here remembers that my handles are luminated......

I know for me the styling of the 5er/E39 is borderline perfect. I have added the M front bumpr so far, but the rear will soon be added. I had the ACS front lip, and the only other 2 were Gumbis smashed one and anohter guy in Indonesia.... But the choices are very limited.......


I will say that all the MPAR setups are out of hand, they look ok, but not that good to where they should be on every other 5er...... Now the Style 5's on the other hand... Evryone should at least have a set as a backup set......



Flame on........

NNY528I
05-29-2008, 06:54 PM
not all of us follow the pack. Ive got chrome trim, badges, 17 inch wheels, and stock headlights on mine.

BKphoto
05-29-2008, 06:59 PM
When i worked on my 240, there were owners that were 20-30+ at the track that would have real nice cars. And parts keep coming out from major companies, and its 19 years old.

I bet if some small shop started producing newer performance parts other then lights (cause thats all i been seeing) would make a decent amount of money huh? Just imagine turbo kits, custom manifolds, bolt on catback systems, intakes that works, big brake brackets...with out charging the extra 500% price markup because of the brand.

That could be the next big thing...i could be a rich man. Or E39 owners aren't interested in performance mods, other then show mods?

And an idea... Carbon fiber shells for our doors...cause we all know these doors weigh a ton.

And im sorry if this turns into a rant, but doesnt it seem like alot of owners on here...act like elitist? If i took brembo brakes off of a STi (around 500 bucks) and larger brembo rotors and slapped em on my bmw...i have a feeling i would get flamed because their not made for BMW.

Cause i kinda got looked down when i recommended the ford electric fan that out blows most aftermarket fans without paying the price of most aftermarket fans.

do you have a point...?

brandon5069
05-29-2008, 07:00 PM
-99.9% of the folks modding their cars here in the E39 section are budget/cost minded.
-There are very few options out there for E39 body mods. Alpina? where? ACS? where? Hamann? where? Lighting mods beyond M5 goods? where? catch my drift...
-unique mods that don't make the very sedate looking E39 look funny are just not there...

Sure you have companies like vornstiener (sp?) that produce a wonderful product, but who of the budget/cost minded is going to pay 2k for a hood when the stock hood looks pretty damn good on the car? Sure you have wheel companies that make beautiful unique wheels for the E39... radenergies come to mind (sp?) but who has 5k to throw at wheels when mpar look GREAT and cost pennies.

I'm trying my best to remain unique while not blowing my budget and keeping my car at a point where it's able to be driven daily without worries of attracting the wrong kind of attention, scraping/rubbing, or upsetting family or friend passengers. To follow through with this plan I've:
installed a suspension that is tolerable, low, and performs well for a street/canyon setup; modified my factory wheels which perform well, maintain decent sidewall, and look pretty fresh :); installed a custom but hidden audio system that is also pretty fresh; installed some "E39 retro" lighting using the almost considered rare 00 M5 headlights/tailights; and installed a rep M5 front bumper which just transforms the look of the car...IMO...

I think most folks are just like me when it comes to modding their old luxury sport sedan :dunno

FP5241
05-29-2008, 07:11 PM
Give me 20K to put into the car and I'll show ya.... :shifty

FaitH777
05-29-2008, 07:16 PM
:shifty

blatant
05-29-2008, 07:22 PM
-99.9% of the folks modding their cars here in the E39 section are budget/cost minded.
-There are very few options out there for E39 body mods. Alpina? where? ACS? where? Hamann? where? Lighting mods beyond M5 goods? where? catch my drift...
-unique mods that don't make the very sedate looking E39 look funny are just not there...

Sure you have companies like vornstiener (sp?) that produce a wonderful product, but who of the budget/cost minded is going to pay 2k for a hood when the stock hood looks pretty damn good on the car? Sure you have wheel companies that make beautiful unique wheels for the E39... radenergies come to mind (sp?) but who has 5k to throw at wheels when mpar look GREAT and cost pennies.

I'm trying my best to remain unique while not blowing my budget and keeping my car at a point where it's able to be driven daily without worries of attracting the wrong kind of attention, scraping/rubbing, or upsetting family or friend passengers. To follow through with this plan I've:
installed a suspension that is tolerable, low, and performs well for a street/canyon setup; modified my factory wheels which perform well, maintain decent sidewall, and look pretty fresh :); installed a custom but hidden audio system that is also pretty fresh; installed some "E39 retro" lighting using the almost considered rare 00 M5 headlights/tailights; and installed a rep M5 front bumper which just transforms the look of the car...IMO...

I think most folks are just like me when it comes to modding their old luxury sport sedan :dunno
+1 well said.
Budget first comes to mind when ever I purchase something. All the mods I have done currently and will do in the future are reasonably cost and update the look of my car. I maybe the 1000th guy to have m-pars on the car and the 500th guy to put a m5 bumper on, but it was reasonable and I love the look...I think that is what matters.

Michael Star
05-29-2008, 07:27 PM
Lemming what?

As far as I know, Im one of the few that has the BMW rear lip, plus I have yet to see anyone run gunmetal stock rims...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2285/2527495303_5361371404_o.jpg

FaitH777
05-29-2008, 07:30 PM
Ah is that it, I was gonna say they need a wash :D

amancuso
05-29-2008, 07:31 PM
on my 540i I added US spec 525i sport package wheels, added updated lighting and front bumper. Thats about all I really wanted to do to it. I was very happy with the styling of the car from the get-go, so that probably explains it.

FP5241
05-29-2008, 07:58 PM
on my 540i I added US spec 525i sport package wheels, added updated lighting and front bumper. Thats about all I really wanted to do to it. I was very happy with the styling of the car from the get-go, so that probably explains it.

Well said.

I wanted an Anthracite 2000 528i-sport with black interior, Style 5's, Shadoline trim... thats what I got. And as stock as my car is, I've yet to see another like it in real life and only know of 2 or 3 others like it on the boards...
:dunno:

btmlinedan
05-29-2008, 08:13 PM
i bought a 540 to get AWAY from the modding...

Previously i had a 92 gsr (#1070 of 3500 EVER made). After a custom turbo kit proved more headaches than fun, I sold the 300whp device and started a N/A full rebuild. A full rebuild from the bottom up, high compression pistons matched with extremely light valves and monsterous cams, countless hours of tuning, revving to 9500rpms, mixing and matching honda oem and aftermarket parts, a full coilover suspension set, race seats that prevent any movement, brakes that sound like a rollercoaster but stop on a dime, measuring tolerances and clearances over and over afraid of royallying taking your car out of commission, more sway / strut / stress / tie bars than you could imagine, retrofitting HID kits, ripping out powersteering, abs, a/c lines...and it never ended.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/backinterior.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/angleddown.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/smallnsx1.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/0520061209.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/hidfront.jpg

It's nice to have a car where all you have to worry about is maybe a lip, or a good wash / wax to make it *perfect* in your eyes. I bought the 540 so I could just drive it. Just throwa few friends in the back, hit the open road, with the a/c and stereo blasting and not worrying if the tune on my engine was gonna fail me, or throw a code from one of the hundreds of things that had been modified.

Granted the "mod" bug has hit me ( as it has hit most of us ) but bolt ons / a sublte drop and some nice wheels is a lot different but completely rebuilding a car from bottom up.

anyone else with me?

DarthMaul
05-29-2008, 08:19 PM
basically unless you want to spend $3000 on a nice aftermarket kit (Hamann, ACS, Hartge, RD Sport, Alpina, Vorsteiner, etc) you are VERY limited in what you can do.


I got lucky to find a complete Hamann kit on eBay for less than $1K and installed it on my car (but had an M5 front bumper already) in my opinion....the stock E39 front bumper really sucks (not aggressive....and looks very dated). So if you want to spruce it up you either buy a lip or swap with M5 bumper....no other choices that are affordable.

Also, the age of the car (starting in '97) creates a challenge in changing the body. If your car is only worth $10K then it's hard to justify spending more than $1K body mods.

Hondas are way cheaper to mod and have dozens of body kits (Wings West, Mugen, Kaminari, etc) and you can have your choice of affordable high quality kits.

So if you can get a good quality M5 rep bumper for $200...it's VERY cheap and doable if, in your E39 mindset, are sick of paying $1K for every mod, repair, maintenance, etc....

Back in the day you might have thought me nuts for paying $900+ for a Euro Ellipsoid with HID upgrade for an E36....but there were no options and that mod made a HUGE difference...

with all the options we have here...it's easy to choose from really shitty looking taiwanese body kits/headlight options...so if people decide to take the classier route....then so be it. i'd prefer everyone to have affordable but non-unique mods than some transformer super-hyper-bomb-veilside kit for their 5 series...

although a lot of us would jump on Vorsteiner parts....luckily their super high prices and low R.O.I. keep us grounded and happy we DIDN'T go that route.... =)

XCELMotorsports
05-29-2008, 08:25 PM
-99.9% of the folks modding their cars here in the E39 section are budget/cost minded.
-There are very few options out there for E39 body mods. Alpina? where? ACS? where? Hamann? where? Lighting mods beyond M5 goods? where? catch my drift...



I guess thats the problem. Everything out there cost an arm or a leg, but really only cost a fraction of the price to produce.


For instance, CAI systems with heat shields out there...what $4-500?

If i was able to make acouple of these units with a different design, but works JUST as good or even...better, for a fraction of the price. Would that catch you owners interest even more?


If thats the case, i can already picture TONS of designs that would work (not just intakes) and hopefully, start to produce.

How interested are you guys in a market like that? An aftermarket to BMWs already expensive aftermarket. Dont think Ebay now, i refuse to put POS parts on my car.

brandon5069
05-29-2008, 08:34 PM
-there are already sub 100 intakes....
-cai on these cars offer little more than more noise. Not something most want....
-Build a turbo kit for the i6...you'll soon understand that in order to get your money back from R&D and to make a profit, you'll be pricing your kit waaay high....then you'll find that only two or three folks actually want your kit....then you'll be pissed...:D

JDEL
05-29-2008, 08:39 PM
Rieger? anyone

Jackcat559
05-29-2008, 08:39 PM
The majority of my hard-er-core projects I don't post. Mostly because it seems like people really care about "hot rodding" type stuff.

E36 Phantom
05-29-2008, 08:40 PM
Xcel,
I hear you. I've noticed that too. Like others have said, though, the M5 looks absolutely perfect as it is, and there are not many other options out there.
BMWs are EXTREMELY hard cars to make body kits for, because their lines are already damn near perfect. Usually added things just look tacky and cheap.

BTW, you can use a Ford elec fan to replace the mech fan on it? Oooh. Do you remember ball park price and rough details? Let me know please!

Micheal Star,
That lip looks great from the side - do you have a rear pic? I may have to go pick one up!

btmlinedan
05-29-2008, 08:49 PM
+2 on the rear lip.


Personally, I don't want to dump 5k into building an engine when I know weight is going to kill me anyway. If i was going to build a 'hot rod' , i wouldn't start w/ the e39 chassis.

and the comment to as e39 owners being "cheap", hell I see more e39 owners being "ballers" with their m5 everything and hella everything. It's hard to talk a devout e39 enthusiast out of going the best, unless that's just me?

Jackcat559
05-29-2008, 08:54 PM
Usually the cheap stuff is exactly that, cheap (poorly made). If the part(s) isn't in the budget wait/save a few months, and get a quality product.

Gumbi4u
05-29-2008, 08:58 PM
:shifty

Jackcat559
05-29-2008, 09:11 PM
que " :shifty " mi FI amigo?

AirWreck
05-29-2008, 09:12 PM
BMWs are EXTREMELY hard cars to make body kits for, because their lines are already damn near perfect. Usually added things just look tacky and cheap.



Well said. I have a super-convincing M5 clone, except it still has the 540 t-bar (that's gone within the next couple weeks). The only other appearance mod in its future could be a CF hood. Even then, I would paint it to match so it wouldn't actually impact the appearance.

The car is perfect.

D540i
07-28-2008, 03:55 AM
i bought a 540 to get AWAY from the modding...

Previously i had a 92 gsr (#1070 of 3500 EVER made). After a custom turbo kit proved more headaches than fun, I sold the 300whp device and started a N/A full rebuild. A full rebuild from the bottom up, high compression pistons matched with extremely light valves and monsterous cams, countless hours of tuning, revving to 9500rpms, mixing and matching honda oem and aftermarket parts, a full coilover suspension set, race seats that prevent any movement, brakes that sound like a rollercoaster but stop on a dime, measuring tolerances and clearances over and over afraid of royallying taking your car out of commission, more sway / strut / stress / tie bars than you could imagine, retrofitting HID kits, ripping out powersteering, abs, a/c lines...and it never ended.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/backinterior.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/angleddown.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/smallnsx1.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/0520061209.jpg


It's nice to have a car where all you have to worry about is maybe a lip, or a good wash / wax to make it *perfect* in your eyes. I bought the 540 so I could just drive it. Just throwa few friends in the back, hit the open road, with the a/c and stereo blasting and not worrying if the tune on my engine was gonna fail me, or throw a code from one of the hundreds of things that had been modified.

Granted the "mod" bug has hit me ( as it has hit most of us ) but bolt ons / a sublte drop and some nice wheels is a lot different but completely rebuilding a car from bottom up.

anyone else with me?


I'm with ya, my 79 280zx was a fun car but not one you could just get in and drive where ever you want. plus running 3k rpm at 60mph got annoying with no sound proofing or much of an exhaust.

helvetica
07-28-2008, 05:18 AM
Lemming what?

As far as I know, Im one of the few that has the BMW rear lip, plus I have yet to see anyone run gunmetal stock rims...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2285/2527495303_5361371404_o.jpg

no...my friend has the M-Aerodynamics all around including sideskirts.

helvetica
07-28-2008, 05:28 AM
i bought a 540 to get AWAY from the modding...

Previously i had a 92 gsr (#1070 of 3500 EVER made). After a custom turbo kit proved more headaches than fun, I sold the 300whp device and started a N/A full rebuild. A full rebuild from the bottom up, high compression pistons matched with extremely light valves and monsterous cams, countless hours of tuning, revving to 9500rpms, mixing and matching honda oem and aftermarket parts, a full coilover suspension set, race seats that prevent any movement, brakes that sound like a rollercoaster but stop on a dime, measuring tolerances and clearances over and over afraid of royallying taking your car out of commission, more sway / strut / stress / tie bars than you could imagine, retrofitting HID kits, ripping out powersteering, abs, a/c lines...and it never ended.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/backinterior.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/angleddown.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/smallnsx1.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/0520061209.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/redstargsr/hidfront.jpg

It's nice to have a car where all you have to worry about is maybe a lip, or a good wash / wax to make it *perfect* in your eyes. I bought the 540 so I could just drive it. Just throwa few friends in the back, hit the open road, with the a/c and stereo blasting and not worrying if the tune on my engine was gonna fail me, or throw a code from one of the hundreds of things that had been modified.

Granted the "mod" bug has hit me ( as it has hit most of us ) but bolt ons / a sublte drop and some nice wheels is a lot different but completely rebuilding a car from bottom up.

anyone else with me?

sounds like me and my old E30 M3 i took a little break with the E39 because with the M3 i never see the end of it.

blingggggg

http://www.theindustryofdesign.com/misc/E30/25/int/03.jpg
http://www.theindustryofdesign.com/misc/E30/25/int/04.jpg
http://www.theindustryofdesign.com/misc/E30/25/int/09.jpg

SHWELL
07-28-2008, 08:24 AM
The main reason for the modding trend on this car is that peeps want to car to retain its classyness, and avoid tackyness. The elitist thing is purely a character flaw, and is not limited to E39 owners, you can find Pinto owners with the same mentality.


Spending thousands modding cars that are 5-11 years old is not something most of us can justify. To Dump 10K on mods (Not maint) on a car that is one cooling system failure away from total loss is not my idea of good spending. I like my car alot, but i is just a car. The money I would like to spend to increase the performance of my 528 is in the bank awaiting the day I spend it on a paid for M5..... It mostly comes down to priorities and the amount of expendable incomeyou have for this type of stuff...

525iT_Feen
07-28-2008, 08:46 AM
:rofl

btmlinedan
07-28-2008, 09:16 AM
^^ haha nice!

let's face it, when you saw your first e39 *(the one that made you want to buy yours)* I'm sure it was just mega clean = ballin. the thought of owning a prestigious bmw, with lots of room, plenty of power, and still retain the "holy shit!" factor lies in the eyes of the beholder, but i'm betting the one that 'made you buy yours' didn't have pink 20s and a 2jz swap on it.

most likely m pars, m5 bumpers, hids, and maybe, MAYBE, an exhaust...

nc540
07-28-2008, 10:27 AM
The elitist thing is purely a character flaw, and is not limited to E39 owners, you can find Pinto owners with the same mentality.


http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii295/nc540/colbert.gif


http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii295/nc540/1976FordPinto1.jpg

razahyde
07-28-2008, 11:10 AM
:shifty

I love gay sex. I like to touch other men too.

Gumbi4u
07-28-2008, 11:12 AM
I love gay sex. I like to touch other men too.



Damn man, dont be so hard on yourself.

razahyde
07-28-2008, 11:19 AM
Damn man, dont be so hard on yourself.

lol you dick, abusing your mod powers!!! :mad

quacktoduck
07-28-2008, 11:32 AM
I love gay sex. I like to touch other men too.
hahahahahahaha
thanks gumbs

waapples
07-28-2008, 11:53 AM
XCELMotorsports, I agree with your comments. I also see many of e39s are look-a-like or somewhat along the same line.

I bought my 528i w/ premium/sports/cold-weather packages to get away from modding...

So far, I've upgraded
- the stock headlight to Hella AE headlights
- changed the shift knob pattern with ///M on it
- 10mm & 15mm H&R spacers

that's all about it.

Don't get me wrong, M5 bumper is just a perfect bumper, but I'm staying away since I don't want to jump in the same boat.

Aubergine
07-28-2008, 12:00 PM
And let us not forget, that unlike the original owners of these cars (CEOs, Doctors, lawyers, mobsters, rich old folk), we simply don't have the funds to drive a new BMW. So, we find one that we like, mod it a little bit to fit our taste, and drive the wheels off it.

:redspot:alright

quacktoduck
07-28-2008, 12:02 PM
if you wanna stay unique get expensive parts that no one else has... like a rdsport bumper or a acs racing wheels... you know the more money you pour over your ride the more unique it is and stop griping we have similar cars... cause in the end arent you driving the same thing as the 40year old lady next to you who doesnt know the potential of your beasts... hey i love the looks of my ride plus the added comforts but i set my own ride off with things like eyelids and m5 front and rear... hey most people dont care or cant afford it and wont go through the trouble of modding... but when you do doesnt it look unique compared to all the others around your neighborhood... and we all look similar cause if you were to gather a bunch of sheep that looked similar into one fence... wouldnt they all look like the same sheep... yeah we all have our similarities and influenecs but real it boils down to we have similar styles and slight differences and we all group together to talk thats why we all look like clones but compared to the e39s overall we are UNIQUE

bonitagts
07-28-2008, 12:04 PM
I used to be a JDM freak. Literally JDM this, JDM that. Front end conversion, Widebody kits etc... Here are some of my previous cars

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/my_shaldan/mr4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/my_shaldan/ae86sr5n2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/my_shaldan/DSC00657.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/my_shaldan/liftback006.jpg


Then after having 2 kids, things changed. I got a bit old and wiser(i think) I said to myself it is time for a change. Then I had the chance of owning a E39. An upgrade, if you like to say so. In my opinion, driving this bimmer is showing that I have moved on from the JDM scene, rehabilitated in other word. But because fixing up cars is in my blood, I did some subtle mods like upgrading the lights, rims and a little lip kit.

FP5241
07-28-2008, 01:00 PM
I love gay sex. I like to touch other men too.


i KNEW IT!!!!

:eek:

Mad Dog 20/20
07-28-2008, 01:11 PM
There is a lot of cloning going on. But it is to be expected.

To a large extent, its just a matter of cost. Some of the cheapest, yet best-looking stuff you can buy for the car are:

replica M-pars
Replica M5 bumpers
Depo lighting
tint

So, yeah - you will see a lot of cars with this spec. Who cares?

Frankly, I'd much rather see my e39 bretheren sporting the above "safe" stuff, rather than some stupid-looking ill-fitting crapola body kit and blinged-out wheels.

MJs5406speed
07-28-2008, 02:32 PM
if you wanna stay unique get expensive parts that no one else has... Like a rdsport bumper or a acs racing wheels... You know the more money you pour over your ride the more unique it is and stop griping we have similar cars... Cause in the end arent you driving the same thing as the 40year old lady next to you who doesnt know the potential of your beasts... Hey i love the looks of my ride plus the added comforts but i set my own ride off with things like eyelids and m5 front and rear... Hey most people dont care or cant afford it and wont go through the trouble of modding... But when you do doesnt it look unique compared to all the others around your neighborhood... And we all look similar cause if you were to gather a bunch of sheep that looked similar into one fence... Wouldnt they all look like the same sheep... Yeah we all have our similarities and influenecs but real it boils down to we have similar styles and slight differences and we all group together to talk thats why we all look like clones but compared to the e39s overall we are unique

+100

there is a lot of cloning going on. But it is to be expected.

To a large extent, its just a matter of cost. Some of the cheapest, yet best-looking stuff you can buy for the car are:

Replica m-pars
replica m5 bumpers
depo lighting
tint

so, yeah - you will see a lot of cars with this spec. Who cares?

Frankly, i'd much rather see my e39 bretheren sporting the above "safe" stuff, rather than some stupid-looking ill-fitting crapola body kit and blinged-out wheels.

+100

theshiznet2004
07-28-2008, 02:53 PM
ahhhh....

Maybe around these boards some of our cars look similar but not 100% the same. The reason why some are similar is because we share the good deals to be had (bumpers, wheels, suspensions, etc.) In the real world I know for fact I rarely see an e39 on the street done up with wheels, suspension, etc....most are driven by people that leave them 100% stock.

OGM3
07-28-2008, 03:01 PM
On another note, anyone got more pics of this car?

It is Bugzy's car, I believe he runs the site - socaleuro.com

http://www.m5board.com/photopost/showgallery.php?ppuser=24948

http://www.socaleuro.com/gallery/browseimages.php?do=searchresults&searchid=3843

5mall5nail5
07-28-2008, 03:04 PM
http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Star%20Wars%20Clone%20Wars%20poster.jpg

brandon5069
07-28-2008, 04:12 PM
Bugzy is demodded...

Still look sick tho..

pahhhoul
07-28-2008, 04:32 PM
yea..lemme mod my car after I've completed my Inspection II to do list. :D
I should be done in about 2 years!
:lol

herc97
07-28-2008, 04:39 PM
I love gay sex. I like to touch other men too.hey slow down man !!!!:eyecrazy consider it to be the attack of a clone army!!!!!

supark
07-28-2008, 05:28 PM
wow how about do some research before you make a uninformed post?

If you had done any amount of research, you'd know that there are very scant options in terms of aftermarket bodykits, engine performance and suspension for our cars. A true Hamann body kit is thousands of dollars, and good luck getting any Rieger parts. Get ready to bend over for ACS options. Small market and production runs for aftermarket parts make something that's typically a $300-500 part on say a 350Z like a set of headers, a $3000 upgrade on a "lowly" 540i with a pretty low return in terms of $$/hp. Head work is similarly expensive - the best bang for buck upgrade in terms of $$/hp is a supercharger from ess or vf but the cost of entry starting at $6k for just the kit itself sans install is practically like buying another car on top of the e39.

Aftermarket brakes from wilwood and brembo are similarly ridiculously priced so many go to an M5 setup, though that means a high replacement cost of about $140 for one set of front pads and $250 apiece for a rotors. Quality coilovers start at about $1800. And again if you knew anything about your car, you would know how limited our options are in terms of wheels unless you want to put a 15mm spacer/adapter on your car so you can use E36/E46 fitment - introducing both potentially greater strain on your lug bolts and more unsprung weight.

That's why the only cars you'll typically see that are e39 based and completely blown out in terms of mods are show cars - if the majority of owners had the money to buy a $5-10k into their cars for cosmetic mods, they sure as hell wouldn't have bought an E39. Don't get me wrong, I love my 540i and don't plan on getting rid of it anytime soon but I bought the car with a particular budget in mind.

The most common options tend to be common because they just plain look good. Yeah there are other options out there, but nothing on the e39 to me looks as good as just an M-tech front and rear, tint, a tasteful drop and some classy 19s.

JackEatsEmoKids
07-28-2008, 05:46 PM
I'm not done with my E39 yet.

I only have the M5 bumper to fit my intercooler for my forced induction setup.

I have a Bride seat, getting a second one next and recoving he rears in the centre material and a possible cage.

I left my stock rear bumper, I have tow hooks on the car, I'm waiting for my spacers to arrive and will paint my wheels a sick color and have a fast and good looking unquie E39.

Looking into carbon fiber hood/trunk setup also. I'm turning mine into a street/strip car.

97CosmosM3
07-28-2008, 06:10 PM
i think it's because all of us on this board are enthusiasts so it would seem that all of us want to mod our cars similarly, but when you're actually out on the road it's a very very small percentage of E39s that are modded at all. It's not like I'm going to go for a drive and see a hundred other board members with cars that look like mine.

FP5241
07-28-2008, 06:22 PM
I mean there are just soooo many options out there for us e39ers and our fancy new rides.. heavens knows there are tons of tuners out there spitting out new custom parts for our cars too.. like Dina.. oh wait... :shifty

Nero530i
07-28-2008, 06:41 PM
Guilty of being a clone - but damn. :cool (thanks for the photo Brandon - - your my hero.)

silverE39
07-28-2008, 06:53 PM
I like my E39 with the e39 typical mods.

OEM M5 front bumper: check
Suspension mods: check
Mpars: check
:buttrock

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/rxdesign/IMG_7539.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/rxdesign/IMG_6810.jpg

Gumbi4u
07-28-2008, 07:03 PM
I'm not done with my E39 yet.

I only have the M5 bumper to fit my intercooler for my forced induction setup.

I have a Bride seat, getting a second one next and recoving he rears in the centre material and a possible cage.

I left my stock rear bumper, I have tow hooks on the car, I'm waiting for my spacers to arrive and will paint my wheels a sick color and have a fast and good looking unquie E39.

Looking into carbon fiber hood/trunk setup also. I'm turning mine into a street/strip car.


Sounds like the making of a bowl of rice. Cage? Tow hooks? Man you are off on the wrong tangent. No offense. Its a 4 door car. A cage in a 4 door car is just wrong.

RPMPhotographyJ
07-28-2008, 08:09 PM
There simply isn't the after market support out there for E39's. Especially if your coming from JDM.

5mall5nail5
07-28-2008, 08:18 PM
There simply isn't the after market support out there for E39's.

pfffffft good joke

Fiziks
07-28-2008, 08:23 PM
Sounds like the making of a bowl of rice. Cage? Tow hooks? Man you are off on the wrong tangent. No offense. Its a 4 door car. A cage in a 4 door car is just wrong.


Not if you are actually road racing it. Cages are not DD stuff.

Jackcat559
07-28-2008, 08:24 PM
pfffffft good joke

Your not kiddin'

Research and a little balls will take you places.

javaco888
07-28-2008, 08:47 PM
i think it's because all of us on this board are enthusiasts so it would seem that all of us want to mod our cars similarly, but when you're actually out on the road it's a very very small percentage of E39s that are modded at all. It's not like I'm going to go for a drive and see a hundred other board members with cars that look like mine.

funny thing is, if there is another fixed up e39 or ANY fixed up bimmer drivin by, they'll go out of their way to make sure you see their car... you see them weaving in and out of traffic, running red lights, cutting people off, just so they can drive past you to show off their ride.... hahahaha

Gumbi4u
07-28-2008, 09:16 PM
Not if you are actually road racing it. Cages are not DD stuff.


True. Cage it and it definitely isn't DD stuff anymore. To each their own.

razahyde
07-28-2008, 09:38 PM
still stand by my original statement, Im love rainbow flags and touch men with authority. I heart Gumbi!

razahyde
07-28-2008, 09:47 PM
damn it gumbi


Sounds like the making of a bowl of rice. Cage? Tow hooks? Man you are off on the wrong tangent. No offense. Its a 4 door car. A cage in a 4 door car is just wrong.

while we're on teh subject, can i haz eggwoll wif that wice?

defaz
07-28-2008, 10:10 PM
I have never seen another 528i with an M5 bumper in person.

Gumbi4u
07-28-2008, 10:12 PM
I have never seen another 528i with an M5 bumper in person.

Wait wut? I thought your car was an M5. Stupid me......

I must have mistaken it for my car.

Boogieboy
07-28-2008, 10:30 PM
I don't know about you but everytime i see this car i know who it belongs to!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/boogieboy01/RandomOG540picsedit100.jpg
WHY! Because it doesn't look like all the other ones.....and honestly i can tell most of the cars (even if they have the same mods) just by the way it's set up in the pics.

Although the mods on the E39's are subtle there are still plenty of ways to make it your own without blowing out your wallet.

Just my 2c.:redspot

razahyde
07-28-2008, 10:31 PM
I don't know about you but everytime i see this car i know who it belongs to!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/boogieboy01/RandomOG540picsedit100.jpg
WHY! Because it doesn't look like all the other ones.....and honestly i can tell most of the cars (even if they have the same mods) just by the way it's set up in the pics.

Although the mods on the E39's are subtle there are still plenty of ways to make it your own without blowing out your wallet.

Just my 2c.:redspot

so you have different rims which just so happen to be gold. omg?

Boogieboy
07-28-2008, 10:34 PM
so you have different rims which just so happen to be gold. omg?
And my exhaust is custom...and my tag is original! Regardless of how small the mod it's still different. And show me another E39 that has my wheels! I've only seen one.

What are you driving?

razahyde
07-28-2008, 10:42 PM
And my exhaust is custom...and my tag is original! Regardless of how small the mod it's still different. And show me another E39 that has my wheels! I've only seen one.

What are you driving?

custom exhaust...yes because we can all tell its custom and not another magnaflow.

original tag- yea thats extremely aftermarket, forgot all about that mod.

what would you like to addresse next?

see my "mein auto"

FaitH777
07-28-2008, 10:44 PM
My car came stock with the M-sport kit. Show me another car with these mods:

HAMANN carbon fiber front lip
Carbon fiber grill
HAMANN HM2 wheels
HAMANN fog light ducts
M5 lower grill with brake duct vents
M5 rear spoiler
Carbon fiber rear diffuser (M-tech)
Grouppe M style (:shifty) air intake with carbon fiber heat shield
Magnaflow performance exhaust
Professionally done rear window tints
Umnitza Predator ICE V2 High Output angel eyes
Hoen H7 xenonmatch bulbs
Hoen 9006 xenonmatch plus bulbs
Narva ‘phantom’ indicator bulbs
Carbon fiber roundels (front, rear)


And the list will continue...

razahyde
07-28-2008, 10:45 PM
My car came stock with the M-sport kit. Show me another car with these mods:

HAMANN carbon fiber front lip
Carbon fiber grill
HAMANN HM2 wheels
HAMANN fog light ducts
M5 lower grill with brake duct vents
M5 rear spoiler
Carbon fiber rear diffuser (M-tech)
Grouppe M style (:shifty) air intake with carbon fiber heat shield
Magnaflow performance exhaust
Professionally done rear window tints
Umnitza Predator ICE V2 High Output angel eyes
Hoen H7 xenonmatch bulbs
Hoen 9006 xenonmatch plus bulbs
Narva ‘phantom’ indicator bulbs
Carbon fiber roundels (front, rear)


And the list will continue...

you forgot about your brembo bb...o wait those were covers. nvm, move along everybody, nothing to see here.

FaitH777
07-28-2008, 10:48 PM
They aren't on right now, they'll be put back on after I drop her like its hot... Sorry, wheres your e39? :D

Gumbi4u
07-28-2008, 10:49 PM
you forgot about your brembo bb...o wait those were covers. nvm, move along everybody, nothing to see here.

They aren't on right now, they'll be put back on after I drop her like its hot... Sorry, wheres your e39? :D



Wow both just got pwned equally! Classic forum action!

FaitH777
07-28-2008, 10:49 PM
You should change your sig pic to "Insert picture of sadness due to not having an e39 here" :D

razahyde
07-28-2008, 10:50 PM
They aren't on right now, they'll be put back on after I drop her like its hot... Sorry, wheres your e39? :D

some of its in my closet, under my bed, but most of its in the garage if you must know. :shifty

how much of a performance increase do those covers add? i know brembo makes awesome products. im dieing to know!

btw can you tell me how that V1 is, ive been pondering getting one for the daily beater.

FaitH777
07-28-2008, 10:54 PM
Some days Raza I think you're in the closet...
At least 12hp at the wheel.
My V1 got stolen, thank you for making me cry...

razahyde
07-28-2008, 10:55 PM
Some days Raza I think you're in the closet...
At least 12hp at the wheel.
My V1 got stolen, thank you for making me cry...

:rofl

you started it!!!

o wait actually i did didnt i? owell sucks to be you then huh?


:evil2

Gumbi4u
07-28-2008, 10:56 PM
Wow the V1 got stolen? I didnt know that Faith. Was it when you posted pics of the busted PASSENGER side window? Its actually the drivers side here in the states. that made me sad....

FaitH777
07-28-2008, 10:58 PM
Yeah... :( I'm going to buy a new one soon. If only I'd caught the bastards... I would have Wing Chun'd them to death!

razahyde
07-28-2008, 11:00 PM
Wow the V1 got stolen? I didnt know that Faith. Was it when you posted pics of the busted PASSENGER side window? Its actually the drivers side here in the states. that made me sad....

wow such a liar.

:rofl

quoted for proof

NeverDidThisBe4 (9:51:22 PM): and he has a V1...oh wait a min, that got stolen

Boogieboy
07-28-2008, 11:01 PM
custom exhaust...yes because we can all tell its custom and not another magnaflow.

original tag- yea thats extremely aftermarket, forgot all about that mod.

what would you like to addresse next?

see my "mein auto" HMMMMMM! (RESORTS TO MIDDLE SCHOOL TACTICS) MY CAR LOOKS BETTER THAN YOUR CAR!:stickoutt

GOTTA GO BUH BYE!

razahyde
07-28-2008, 11:02 PM
HMMMMMM! (RESORTS TO MIDDLE SCHOOL TACTICS) MY CAR LOOKS BETTER THAN YOUR CAR!:stickoutt

GOTTA GO BUH BYE!

:rofl

1NAWTY5
07-29-2008, 02:12 AM
http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Star%20Wars%20Clone%20Wars%20poster.jpg

Thats funny but can we see some non clones. My e39 doesnt look like clone. Back to the thread

FaitH777
07-29-2008, 02:30 AM
He's right Raz, why don't you and I start our own thread on OT where we can post pictures of ourselves with our shirts off?

helvetica
07-29-2008, 04:41 AM
why do you care so much what people think about your car? everyone has their own cup of tea.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/cowcowmoomoo1/arguingOnTheInternet.jpg

XCELMotorsports
07-29-2008, 05:34 AM
^True, you should always tune your car to your specs. But also the truth is, if people didnt care how you car looked, you wouldnt bother so much at making it look good, or even buying a nice car in the first place.

happycamper
07-29-2008, 05:50 AM
cool you guys are having this discussion i hope to also understand the infatuation that some of the e36 guys have with making M3 reps

Jo@EuroDyne
07-29-2008, 06:04 AM
this one thread i would really love to have a spill on!!! i got so much to say. but because of being part of the vendor side, i gotta stay "professional" and tell u guys to keep on buying our m5 style bumpers, mirrors, tails, headlights, and etc...cuz its the cool thing to do =P...

Petes540i6
07-29-2008, 06:34 AM
I like my E39 with the e39 typical mods.

OEM M5 front bumper: check
Suspension mods: check
Mpars: check
:buttrock

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/rxdesign/IMG_7539.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/rxdesign/IMG_6810.jpg

You can't argue with that. What's to improve?

FaitH777
07-29-2008, 08:40 AM
this one thread i would really love to have a spill on!!! i got so much to say. but because of being part of the vendor side, i gotta stay "professional" and tell u guys to keep on buying our m5 style bumpers, mirrors, tails, headlights, and etc...cuz its the cool thing to do =P...

ROLF! (PS, when are you guys bringing out the M-Spec rear for the tourings for underlings such as yourself?).

1NAWTY5
07-29-2008, 12:18 PM
This is a thread failure, Nice going guys




http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8766/failboatkm5.jpg

razahyde
07-29-2008, 12:33 PM
This is a thread failure, Nice going guys




http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8766/failboatkm5.jpg

damn maxima owners.

Nero530i
07-29-2008, 01:18 PM
you forgot about your brembo bb...o wait those were covers. nvm, move along everybody, nothing to see here.

Ouch that just is not nice.

540IForMe
07-29-2008, 02:04 PM
On another note, anyone got more pics of this car?
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7576/e39vrshoodjpgap4.jpg

What kind of bumper is this?

Lemming what?

As far as I know, Im one of the few that has the BMW rear lip, plus I have yet to see anyone run gunmetal stock rims...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2285/2527495303_5361371404_o.jpg

This one is mine.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee126/evolvedrs/gunmetalbmw/IMG_0992.jpg

:D

1NAWTY5
07-29-2008, 03:22 PM
damn maxima owners.
What does that mean?

Gumbi4u
07-29-2008, 03:24 PM
What does that mean?


I think he's calling you out. Saying you have a maxima but yet lurk in the e39 section. I personally think he has beef with you. After all a Maxima when modded isnt rice at all right?

MJs5406speed
07-29-2008, 03:25 PM
What does that mean?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :dunno

MJs5406speed
07-29-2008, 03:27 PM
I think he's calling you out. Saying you have a maxima but yet lurk in the e39 section. I personally think he has beef with you. After all a Maxima when modded isnt rice at all right?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
you guys are st8 comedy!!!

1NAWTY5
07-29-2008, 03:48 PM
I think he's calling you out. Saying you have a maxima but yet lurk in the e39 section. I personally think he has beef with you. After all a Maxima when modded isnt rice at all right?


I really :nono did not expect that from an acting mod. What does "beef" mean? Is that a slang term for trouble ? I asked someone else the question and you answer it. Are you an interpreter? Didnt I meet with you at the original Fort lee meet in NJ :confused. I only put my DD in my profile was that a crime. Leave the BS alone.

Back to the thread

defaz
07-29-2008, 03:58 PM
all stock e39 owners are clones.

razahyde
07-29-2008, 04:04 PM
I really :nono did not expect that from an acting mod. Didnt I meet with you at the original Fort lee meet in NJ :confused. I only put my DD in my profile was that a crime. Trust me leave the BS alone.

Back to the thread

What does that mean?

maxima owners get butt hurt so easy. :rolleyes

FP5241
07-29-2008, 04:17 PM
stupid thread is stupid.
its making no progress.
request that it be closed.
it will be reported.
no e39 = GTFO

That is all.. :shifty

razahyde
07-29-2008, 04:18 PM
stupid thread is stupid.
its making no progress.
request that it be closed.
it will be reported.
no parts of an e39 = GTFO

That is all.. :shifty

:shifty

Junaid
07-29-2008, 05:36 PM
stupid thread is stupid.
its making no progress.
request that it be closed.
it will be reported.
no e39 = GTFO

That is all.. :shifty

Mine is still in the family, my dad drives it i just prefer something different....something that fails emissions :shifty

I am coming back with either a X5 or might be leaving with a ML320

brandon5069
07-29-2008, 05:49 PM
Yo mamma is a clone!


oooooooh......


:devillook

Petes540i6
07-29-2008, 05:55 PM
I'm going to try to bring this thread back from flatline.

Another thing that needs to be recognized is that the E39 is primarily a luxury sedan. As a result, anything but subtle changes looks pretty much awful, whether they are interior or exterior mods.

macbookproaudio
07-29-2008, 05:56 PM
Idea, new eyelid style. something to sharpen the corners of the headlight. kinda like how the new 3 has those sharp headlights. ill ps something together later.

or maybe some kind of headlight kit that was just shaped differently and came with eye lids to make it fit. just random thoughts...

FaitH777
07-29-2008, 05:59 PM
Ever heard of Boser?

http://cgi.ebay.de/E39-M5-Scheinwerferblenden-BMW-Boeser-Blick-Scheinwerfer_W0QQitemZ260267793147QQihZ016QQcatego ryZ44213QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

macbookproaudio
07-29-2008, 06:07 PM
thats cool, i didnt know they made the under eyelid like that. thats a little too drastic for me, i was thinking something to just sharpen up the corners. ill have to draw it to show u. but it kinda resembles that.

FaitH777
07-29-2008, 06:27 PM
I cut out pieces of paper and spray painted them to see how it would look on my car a while ago:
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u171/faith777_DTH/eyez2.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u171/faith777_DTH/eyez.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u171/faith777_DTH/300420082079000.jpg
Artists impression of actual product installed :shifty
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u171/faith777_DTH/060420082000.jpg

I even tried to sell said cuttings to board members :shifty all I got in return for my efforts was this:
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u171/faith777_DTH/40LB_Rape_box.jpg

FaitH777
07-29-2008, 06:28 PM
I ended up buying the Hamann fog ducts...

Gumbi4u
07-29-2008, 07:54 PM
I really :nono did not expect that from an acting mod. What does "beef" mean? Is that a slang term for trouble ? I asked someone else the question and you answer it. Are you an interpreter? Didnt I meet with you at the original Fort lee meet in NJ :confused. I only put my DD in my profile was that a crime. Leave the BS alone.

Back to the thread


Dude relax! This thread is so full of BS that it doesnt hurt to add some constructive BS to it for flavor. Dont be so sensitive. I just want to see a little BEEF.

That is all......

brandon5069
07-29-2008, 08:01 PM
Beef....Beef ball....

I like beef ball in my pho....

























:shifty

Gumbi4u
07-29-2008, 08:06 PM
Thread closed for no production value.