I went to the meet in Atlanta on Sunday, and on the way back to Chattanooga on I-75 I saw several cars that I tried to run and none would bite..... a WRX, VW GTI, on and on..... and I was getting pissed cuz I wanted to get in at least one run on the way back home. So half way back I'm just cruisin in the middle lane with the cruise control on 80 when ........ what do my eyes see in the rear view mirror............an early 90's 5.0 Mustang with a big ass cowl hood that I could see from a ways back. So I slow up and let him roll up beside me, and he's got the usual.... Cobra wheels, loud exhaust, cowl hood... so I know this guys gonna go. So he speeds up when he sees me beside him and I gear down and get over behind him as we pass some traffic. He's all in it with me behind him and he's trying to leave me but I'm all over his ass having to comin on and off the gas. As soon as he got a break in traffic he moves over in to the next lane and takes off, I do the same and go further out to the far lane throwing down into 3rd, and start pulling him in, hit 4th coming up beside him and going by. I only went to 130 in 5th and let out already 3 or 4 cars in front of him. So then trying to be a nice guy I slow up to let him get beside me to give him the thumbs up, and when he comes along side me, he won't even look over at us. What a FAG. He then threw in down and took off, I didn't give chase cuz I already smoked him once, no need to do it again. What a sore loser he was though:rolleyes: :laugh

Worse thing ever, sore losers. Nice kill Justin ;)

Atta boy...

Sore losers get the fat dizznick.

And... :flipa:

That must have been one slow 5.0 cuz your GSR is not fast.

Actually, seeing as Justin runs mid 14's, his car is a good match up for an older 5.0 with not too many power mods...

Obviously, an excellent driver in a 5 spd 5.0 Mustang with some gears should eek out a win without too much drama, but that being said, mid 14's makes it a driver's race with Justin's car...

Originally posted by Quaife101
That must have been one slow 5.0 cuz your GSR is not fast.

What the hell is your problem? He reported the results of his run against a 5.0. He didn't ask for your opinion anywhere in the thread.

This is the second thread in the past two days that I've been in where you've been nothing short of obnoxious in your response (reference: "Best Handling Car In America" in E36 M3 forum). If you have nothing better to contribute than your trite little condescendences, then perhaps you need reevaluate your membership here.

And unless you've got some undisclosed mods that your signature isn't showing, his "not fast" GS-R would beat the living ish out of your 325.

The door's right over there. Please expedite your exit, so as not to allow contact from the door with your backside.

BBBBBBBBBBUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

Buddy... Your name should be Quiffe...

:biglaughb

Originally posted by Quaife101
That must have been one slow 5.0 cuz your GSR is not fast.

He's right, it's simple math - 8 is more than 4.:devillook

He's right, it's simple math - 8 is more than 4

IT's not a question of where he grips it...it's a simple matter of weight ratios, a 5 ounce bird cannot carry a 1 lb coconut...

But his particular GS-R isn't slow. Mid 14s? Respectable.

Originally posted by vjlax18
He's right, it's simple math - 8 is more than 4.:devillook

Heh... Justin should get a kick out of this one.


Originally posted by jcsomerset
IT's not a question of where he grips it...it's a simple matter of weight ratios, a 5 ounce bird cannot carry a 1 lb coconut...

:rofl:

Originally posted by Ron17
What the hell is your problem? He reported the results of his run against a 5.0. He didn't ask for your opinion anywhere in the thread.

This is the second thread in the past two days that I've been in where you've been nothing short of obnoxious in your response (reference: "Best Handling Car In America" in E36 M3 forum). If you have nothing better to contribute than your trite little condescendences, then perhaps you need reevaluate your membership here.

And unless you've got some undisclosed mods that your signature isn't showing, his "not fast" GS-R would beat the living ish out of your 325.

The door's right over there. Please expedite your exit, so as not to allow contact from the door with your backside. I hate to say it, but somebody got OWNED!!!

Im not trying to instigate. Sure a stock 5.Slow is a good match up for his GSR. But his GSR is still slow.
My last car was a 96 civic hatchback with a 96 GSR motor with a ZEX nitrous system, which i consider to be a slow car. that is why i bought my talon. it is fucktons faster than the hatch with a 55 65 or 75 shot. I met up with a few 5.0s and a few 5.0slows in the hatch, all i was saying was that the 5.Slow GSRboy raced was one slow ass mustang to lose to a 14.5 sec 96mph integra.
dont get your panties in a bunch RON, you obviously talk more than you know. My 325 with just the chip and intake filter beat up on my old 96 GSR (the car that the motor for my hatch came from) all day long. With its QUaife and 3.46 final drive it eats up any 14.5 96mph honda. give me a break.
and sorry for the rude comment on the 5 year old article that even my grandmother has read! and shes 92 yrs old !!!
I just thought it was HILARIOUS to see such an old post about the E36 M3, i mean damn, are BMW enthusiasts that hard up for hearing something to PRAISE the almighty M3...maybe theres just not enough PRAISE for the new M3 that you had to bring up old news.

Oh RONNy, just so you have an idea of how fast my hatchback with a 55 shot was. It Took my friends 97 M3 4door (just like yours) who has a 75 shot N/X system, by about 1 car length all the way through 4th gear.

Wow, Quiffe, you are quite the ass. You're not trying to instigate? Riiight. :rolleyes:

You say his GSR is slow. Okay, compared to an AWD Eagle Talon running 20 psi, sure it is. But what isn't? However, relative to most cars on the road, his GSR is a very fast car. I'm suddenly reminded of a quote invloving a toilet and running nine-second 1/4 miles... :biglaughb

And...regarding the M3 post. Who cares if it was an old article? I thought that some people that haven't read it (namely new M3 drivers) would find it interesting. There's no need in being a dick about it. Grow the hell up. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Quaife101
Oh RONNy, just so you have an idea of how fast my hatchback with a 55 shot was. It Took my friends 97 M3 4door (just like yours) who has a 75 shot N/X system, by about 1 car length all the way through 4th gear.

4 Door? In what picture did you see that?

I just have to keep posting to RON. My 325 is not a drag car and i dont consider it to be fast. I mean even your M3 is slow in my book. I know that makes you mad, but it is slow.
Now SilverStreak, i dont want to get this 200lb kickboxing drag guru mad. I know I like to rustle up the crowd but its all in the fun of discussion. please forgive me.

Originally posted by vjlax18
4 Door? In what picture did you see that?


True that i BOTCHED.

Ron drives '95 M3 TWO-DOOR (try it with me kid... one... t..t...two"there ya go, Timmy!"). Significantly different car then a 97 4-door, which was quite possibly an auto.

I'm weary of anyone who has to use NOS to cream other cars, seems like a cop out.

And brace yourself.

Steve

Yeah, buddy. That's me with the sedan...

Originally posted by BimmerDawg
Wow, Quiffe, you are quite the ass. You're not trying to instigate? Riiight. :rolleyes:

You say his GSR is slow. Okay, compared to an AWD Eagle Talon running 20 psi, sure it is. But what isn't? However, relative to most cars on the road, his GSR is a very fast car. I'm suddenly reminded of a quote invloving a toilet and running nine-second 1/4 miles... :biglaughb

And...regarding the M3 post. Who cares if it was an old article? I thought that some people that haven't read it (namely new M3 drivers) would find it interesting. There's no need in being a dick about it. Grow the hell up. :rolleyes:

you live in one slow slow world buddy, get off the training wheels and join the real world. :awink:

I live in a slow world? How do ya figure? B/c I'm not running 20 pounds of boost in some POS American wanna-be ricer? I prefer to have a car that can do everything right: namely handling, but with a generous amount of power, great looks, and reliability. I really don't care to have a car that's faster than everything else on the road...

Originally posted by StevenRyan
Ron drives '95 M3 TWO-DOOR (try it with me kid... one... t..t...two"there ya go, Timmy!"). Significantly different car then a 97 4-door, which was quite possibly an auto.

I'm weary of anyone who has to use NOS to cream other cars, seems like a cop out.

And brace yourself.

Steve

I like how you are trying to make it a big deal that i thought ROn had a 4 door. i Just noticed in his sig it says m3/2 , i thought that only the guys with 4 doors wrote m3/4 so with a quick glance i mistook m3/2 with m3/4. my sincere apologies. Now would you like to argue that a 4 door and a 2 door have different peformance capabilities? because the differences are slim to none.
my friends 97 is a 5 speed. and since we were both using nitrous, and he was using 25 hp more....i'll let you do the math.

Originally posted by Quaife101
you live in one slow slow world buddy, get off the training wheels and join the real world. :awink:

Really, so what's fast? The AWD Talon that you have running at 20psi? Maybe it is fast, but running that thing at 20psi isn't helping the longevity of the car. How about you turn it down to where it can handle the boast... then you can race my wife. My money is on her.:biglaughb

Originally posted by BimmerDawg
I live in a slow world? How do ya figure? B/c I'm not running 20 pounds of boost in some POS American wanna-be ricer? I prefer to have a car that can do everything right: namely handling, but with a generous amount of power, great looks, and reliability. I really don't care to have a car that's faster than everything else on the road...

Precisely why i have a my BMW and a fast car as well.

Your post is so rafe with nonsense, I don't even know where to begin. How about a point-by-point breakdown?


Originally posted by Quaife101
Im not trying to instigate.

You're obviously an instigator with your inflammatory comments all over the place. Patterns of behavior bear out the ultimate truth. You've only furthered that notion in this response.


Sure a stock 5.Slow is a good match up for his GSR. But his GSR is still slow.

Aren't too many N/A GS-Rs with full interiors and no nitrous running 14.5s on street tires... I'll tell you that much. Perhaps your definition of "slow" is different from mine, in which case we'll just agree to disagree.


dont get your panties in a bunch RON, you obviously talk more than you know. My 325 with just the chip and intake filter beat up on my old 96 GSR (the car that the motor for my hatch came from) all day long. With its QUaife and 3.46 final drive it eats up any 14.5 96mph honda. give me a break.

Ya think so, huh? Because I don't know what a 325 drives like, right? I drove one for two years. :rolleyes:

Come with timeslips. Until then, I maintain my position.


and sorry for the rude comment on the 5 year old article that even my grandmother has read! and shes 92 yrs old !!!

You're obviously not sorry, because the instigation continues. Is it so completely unfathomable to you that there are people who are just now coming into the realms of BMW enthusiasm and have not read that article? Does that mean that they are any less of a "car person" than you?

You really give yourself FAR too much credit.


I just thought it was HILARIOUS to see such an old post about the E36 M3, i mean damn, are BMW enthusiasts that hard up for hearing something to PRAISE the almighty M3...maybe theres just not enough PRAISE for the new M3 that you had to bring up old news.

We don't need praise for our cars -- we just go drive them and that's enough to bring pleasure to us. And I could care less about the press on the new M3, to be honest. I don't drive one, so it does not concern me.

Originally posted by vjlax18
Really, so what's fast? The AWD Talon that you have running at 20psi? Maybe it is fast, but running that thing at 20psi isn't helping the longevity of the car. How about you turn it down to where it can handle the boast... then you can race my wife. My money is on her.:biglaughb

I have put 10 thousand miles on my car since i bought it 4 months ago, and it is running stronger than ever. hell ill do the lemans 24 hr endurance race in it against your car and not only will i beat you by 100 laps but ill do it at 10 lbs of boost ...dont talk about what you dont know about. the quality and reliabilty of a car has more to do with the OWNER than the Manufacturer.

you couldve avoided this Quiafe if you just kept your comments to yourself...i know we have the freedom of speech but come on man you dont have to rag on people's track times bro

14.5@96 mph is not even slow...thats about what Integra Type R's run..that is a really good time for the mods he has

and about swapped civic hatchbacks with nitrous being fast (faster than A LOT of cars out there, yes even M3's)...no shit sherlock, when did you figure this out?

justin95GSR..nice kill bro

I have put 10 thousand miles on my car since i bought it 4 months ago, and it is running stronger than ever. hell ill do the lemans 24 hr endurance race in it against your car and not only will i beat you by 100 laps but ill do it at 10 lbs of boost ...dont talk about what you dont know about. the quality and reliabilty of a car has more to do with the OWNER than the Manufacturer.

Now whos friggin' magazine racer. So much speculation, so much speculation.

I'd like to see you run LeMans, I really would. Seriously, that would be awesome.

Oh, and sorry about making a big deal about the four doors... but the 95 (especially with all the modifications Ron has done) is a different beast. Lots of potential there that can't be found in the OBD-II m3's. So no, the performance difference is not minute... its quite substantial if set up right.

Steve

Originally posted by Ron17

Aren't too many N/A GS-Rs with full interiors and no nitrous running 14.5s on street tires... I'll tell you that much. Perhaps your definition of "slow" is different from mine, in which case we'll just agree to disagree.


You obviously dont know ANYTHING about the world of HOnda. I have built my own GSR civic hatch back, helped my brother build over 4 different motor swapped hondas and multiple friends.

Have you ever changed the gearing in your car RON? Have you ever driven a 92 325is with a 3.46 final drive gear ? do you have ANY idea what it feels like? No not at all.

None of you seem to be very educated outside of the work of BMW, and even in that world youre still in 6th grade.

Originally posted by Quaife101
I just have to keep posting to RON. My 325 is not a drag car and i dont consider it to be fast. I mean even your M3 is slow in my book. I know that makes you mad, but it is slow.

If you have a problem with me, personally, perhaps you should PM me and air your greivances there. You can explain to me why you are targetting me, for simply calling out your obnxious responses in not one, but two separate threads.

If your definition of slow means that my M3 is slow, so be it. I won't try to change your thinking on the matter. It does not make me mad. My car is what it is and it runs what it runs. It's not an 11-second car, nor was it designed to be. Nor will I probably ever equip it to be as such. This does not ruffle my feathers in the least.


Originally posted by Quaife101
Now SilverStreak, i dont want to get this 200lb kickboxing drag guru mad. I know I like to rustle up the crowd but its all in the fun of discussion. please forgive me.

Now folks, if you'll observe the next slide with me, we'll get a look inside the juvenile mind...

:rolleyes:

So, you're talking noise to me because you apparently are not physically intimidated by me. And you're trying to avoid rustling up Dave because you ARE. How ridiculously juvenile can you get?

You and I are never going to meet in person. Even if we did, I would not even come close to exchanging physical unpleasantries with you. That should not even be a part of this.

The depth of your immaturity is truly staggering...

Wow, Quiffe. You should see an on-going theme here: that you are a complete jackass, and everyone involved in this thread recognizes it but you.

You say you're not an instigator, but I beg to differ.

Originally posted by OldSkoolBimmers
and about swapped civic hatchbacks with nitrous being fast (faster than A LOT of cars out there, yes even M3's)...no shit sherlock, when did you figure this out?

justin95GSR..nice kill bro


faster than a 97 m3 pushing a 75 shot.

Quiafe..im not sucking up to anyone here..just stating facts..but Ron is one of the most humble people about non BMW cars...he is in no way a BMW closeminded person..so what you are trying to imply about him is not true

we arent educated too much outside the world of BMW?...man please, judging by your posts you dont really know too much yourself

Originally posted by Quaife101
I have put 10 thousand miles on my car since i bought it 4 months ago, and it is running stronger than ever. hell ill do the lemans 24 hr endurance race in it against your car and not only will i beat you by 100 laps but ill do it at 10 lbs of boost ...dont talk about what you dont know about. the quality and reliabilty of a car has more to do with the OWNER than the Manufacturer.

You should re-read what I wrote. And if you want to go road racing, your car against my car with equal drivers.... sure:biglaughb And your engine with stock internals is not going to be able to handle 20lbs of boost for any length of time. Reminds me of that video of the Eclipse beating the M3 in a race, and then it blowing up - too funny.:laugh

I said you in your car with normal amount of boost against my WIFE IN HER CAR.;)

Originally posted by Quaife101
do you have ANY idea what it feels like?

"... any idea of what it feels like?"

And there we have it. Conclusive butt-dyno proof that your 325is with 3.46 gears is faster than a 14.6 @ 96 MPH car.

:rolleyes:

Hey RON, its nothing personal, you were acting me so i was going back at you. What i said about silverstreak was said because he is the moderator, not because he is a 200lb kickboxer. I also respect him because he handles people like me with a very mature attitude, unlike the rest of you who stoop down to my level, showing that you all are as juvenile as myself

and i know i instigate, i know more about cars then you so its fun.

RONNY RONNY
I dont take the Bimmer to the drag strip. But ive raced it against my own hondas and many friends. 14.6 @ 96 is ass slow.

Why are we comparing my 325 to his GSR anyway? did i ever say that his GSR was slow compared to it? you realize you are so dumb that you are arguing with yourself dont you?

Okay, well I'm done with this guy. It's obvious that he's simply an instigator and just wants to get everyone riled up b/c he enjoys the attention. Have fun with your 20 psi Eagle!!! :biglaughb

Originally posted by vjlax18
You should re-read what I wrote. And if you want to go road racing, your car against my car with equal drivers.... sure:biglaughb And your engine with stock internals is not going to be able to handle 20lbs of boost for any length of time. Reminds me of that video of the Eclipse beating the M3 in a race, and then it blowing up - too funny.:laugh

I said you in your car with normal amount of boost against my WIFE IN HER CAR.;)

You dont know ANYTHING about DSMs much less your own car. My car at 20lbs of boost with my 16g turbo with stock internals and proper fuel is very reliable. Chris ,the guy who blew his car up, was pushing a FPgreen turbo. the power he was making is much more than my talon makes.
i mean shit, i still think my talon is slow...what world DO you all live in ????

Originally posted by BimmerDawg
Have fun blowing up your 20 psi Eagle!!! :biglaughb

I fixed it Geordie.

And Quaife, why don't you bring that Talon or even the 325 out to an autoX this year? Let's see what's fast.:)

Originally posted by BimmerDawg
Okay, well I'm done with this guy. It's obvious that he's simply an instigator and just wants to get everyone riled up b/c he enjoys the attention. Have fun with your 20 psi Eagle!!! :biglaughb


and my BMW :biglaughb

Originally posted by Quaife101
Hey RON, its nothing personal, you were acting me so i was going back at you. What i said about silverstreak was said because he is the moderator, not because he is a 200lb kickboxer. I also respect him because he handles people like me with a very mature attitude, unlike the rest of you who stoop down to my level, showing that you all are as juvenile as myself

and i know i instigate, i know more about cars then you so its fun.

I have never attacked you, personally, save to say your attitude is nothing short of juvenile... which it is. That's not really an attack.

I suspect you'd find many posts from our friend Dave with EERILY similar tone and verbage to that which I have used in this post. Double-standard, huh?


Originally posted by Quaife101
RONNY RONNY
I dont take the Bimmer to the drag strip. But ive raced it against my own hondas and many friends. 14.6 @ 96 is ass slow.

Call me stubborn, but until you produce a timeslip for your 325, I call BS.

14.6 is slow compared to... what? Your Talon? If so, then fine... you win. Great.


Originally posted by Quaife101
Why are we comparing my 325 to his GSR anyway? did i ever say that his GSR was slow compared to it? you realize you are so dumb that you are arguing with yourself dont you?

We are comparing, because I called it out. You said his car was slow. I said it was not. I offered that it would hand your BMW its ass. You said it would not. I maintain my position. That's why we're here.

As long as you keep responding to me, I'm not arguing with myself.

Now who needs to sit in the corner with the Dunce hat on?

I will bring the 325 to a drag strip, but only if i get to race you in your m3 ron.

running in the mid 14's with a trap below 100 is slow in my book.

Originally posted by Quaife101
I will bring the 325 to a drag strip, but only if i get to race you in your m3 ron.

You're on.

I'm hoping the N. VA / MD guys set up a drag strip meet sometime down the road. If they do, and there's going to be a good attendance from members of this forum, I will road trip up there for the weekend.

In this case, I'll let you know and you can bring your car. We'll run many times (as well as anyone else attending). Best time wins.

If you post a better time, I'll smile, shake your hand, congratulate you and recant my innaccuracies here publicly.

I'm a stand-up guy... really... I can accept defeat and I can admit I was wrong. I'm not afraid of doing so.

Stay tuned...

Not to say I won't be pissed (because I'm infinitely competitive and DESPISE losing), but I'll accept defeat with grace and dignity. :wave:

Sounds fun.

IS FUN!!!

HAHAHA...I am sooo bored at work, could you tell?

Quaife101 and Mother below........:biglaughb

:lol:

I can't WAIT to meet some of you at a dragstrip or an autocross.

:devillook

Chris

Originally posted by Quaife101
running in the mid 14's with a trap below 100 is slow in my book.

I've run 10s at 140 mph.

Do I think that 10s are fast? No.

Do I come in here and bash everyone whose car does not run a 10? No.

There is simply no point in making comments like yours.

Originally posted by EclipsorGreen
I can't WAIT to meet some of you at a dragstrip or an autocross.

Do you run in SM?

How competitive are you in that class?

If you auto-X, you should have no problem finding vjlax18.

Trust me... seems like every weekend, he's going here or there to race. :)

Hey Chris, just went to your website and checked out your car. That AFC controller is too damn cool. Very nice car, tastefully done.

Good luck with building that motor! Sounds like a hoot.

Steve

This is all I'm gonna say.:

Sure, the eagle talon W/ turbo is fast.

But then again, so is the Dodge Omni GT that Carroll Shelby built for Chrysler.

Originally posted by Reid
I've run 10s at 140 mph.

Do I think that 10s are fast? No.

Do I come in here and bash everyone whose car does not run a 10? No.

There is simply no point in making comments like yours.

hey mr hawaii, what do you run 10s in? a daily driver with street tires ? a 1000awhp skyline ?

Originally posted by Reid
Do you run in SM?

How competitive are you in that class?

Yeah, I've been running in SM class. I was relatively competitive with my small 16G turbo, but my heavy AWD car is definitely not the best autocross-mobile. It will be even worse with this new, bigger turbo. My new motor with higher compression pistons will help low end a bit, so I'll hafta give it a shot and see how bad it really is now.

I love autocrossing my Dad's Boxster S. Oversteer gives me so much more control over the behavior of the vehicle at low speeds. I drove it at the last PCA autocross at Six Flags and got first in my class.

It'd be nice if my car was great at autocrosses, but as it stands now, it's being setup for road racing at tracks like Summit Point and VIR. It feels much more at home being driven at high speeds.

Chris

Just to avoid any future unpleasantness, here's MY PERSONAL reference:

Quarter-mile times --

16+ : Slow
16 - 15: Ehhh...
15 - 14: Pretty Fast
14 - 13: Fast
13 - 11: Damn Fast
11 - 10: Insanely Fast
10 - : HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!

:)

Originally posted by m3howie
HAHAHA...I am sooo bored at work, could you tell?

Quaife101 and Mother below........:biglaughb

you are an amazing artist, that looks just like my mother !

you were at the meet? why didnt you say hi :confused:

:lol:

Your mom is HOT!

xxoo
Steve

Originally posted by StevenRyan
Hey Chris, just went to your website and checked out your car. That AFC controller is too damn cool. Very nice car, tastefully done.

Good luck with building that motor! Sounds like a hoot.

Steve

Thanks for the compliments. I don't have the AFC anymore though. I've since replaced it with DSMLink, which is far better. It is a much better fuel controller, in that it is not a piggy back controller like the AFC. Instead of "lying" to the ECU, it works in concert with the stock three-dimensional fuel mappings. It also has other features such as a launch limiter, ignition timing adjustment, and a high resolution datalogger that logs knock (difficult to do w/ OBD-II).

The AFC did look nice, but I'd rather not have it screaming "STEAL ME" to anyone who sees it from outside the car. At least I can put my laptop under the seat when it's not in use.

Chris

Very very slick... real time ECU mapping is awesome.

Steve

Damn, SM class is so full ... and it sucks being a new auto-x driver, because it's pretty damn competitive. I wish I could go BSP sometimes to learn on a stock vehicle and take my skills to the modified car.

What bumps a person into SM2 from SM then?

Yeah, Vj is a psycho for auto-x's ... if only some of his skill will rub off on me :D

Originally posted by Ali
you were at the meet? why didnt you say hi :confused:

That's probably my fault for failing to introduce him to you. I apologize. He'll be at the next one, also, most likely. He was looking forward to the drive, I know.

HEy Eclipsor, how come noone complimented me on having an AFC ? ??????

Originally posted by Quaife101
HEy Eclipsor, how come noone complimented me on having an AFC ? ??????

I totally forgot! Quaife101's AFC kicks ass! It's so blue and purdy...

Chris

And what about my profec A that uses fuzzy logic to perfect my boost curve!!!

Man, I go to a lunch meeting and there are 2-3 responses to this post, and come back 3 pages of flames.... neat... :rolleyes:

First off, I'm gonna agree with some folks' assessment of you, Quaife, your "tone" is often antagonistic and instigative in nature. And you admit to enjoying rustling folks up here-- that's something the Admin Staff doesn't welcome here at BimmerForums. So knock it off.

I have warned you once before. So I will warn you again now. You don't get a 3rd warning, you get Time Out.

As for you others here who let someone like Quaife bait you into returning quips and flames, shame on you. I know you guys, and you're better than this.

You can make a point that differs from others, offers a different perspective, and you can do it without resorting to flames, I know you can, cuz I've seen you do it on many occasions.

Consider this a warning to the rest of you, as well.

PS- It's 208 lbs, I haven't been 200 lbs since senior year of High School... ;)